Why do women consider rape to be the worst thing imaginable...

Why do women consider rape to be the worst thing imaginable? If I was raped the only thing I would care about would be the pain. Once my ass no longer hurt I'd be fine. Fuck, it doesn't even hurt them like it hurts men. I'm not condoning rape, nor am I saying I don't have sympathy for rape victims. I'm just confused is all.

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Ever see a woman stub her toe or get a tiny scratch? It's literally like anudduh shoah.

There's a reason we call weak willed people pussies.

I have thought about this as well and my only conclusion is that I think it boils down to the fact that our perception of safety is forever shattered.

If you are raped (and not killed), to continue living knowing you were at one point 100% at the mercy of another individual must be hard to accept.

>There's a reason we call weak willed people pussies.

Weird - we just call them Trudeau

French loving homo

I'm a girl and raped is not the worst thing. Murdered is a lot more worse. Being the original poster in a thread as shit as this is even worse than being murdered

We call people "pussies" as it's derived from the word pusillanimous meaning coward. the word "pussy" to denote female genitalia came much later from a retard.

It's about forcing someone to submit, and the psychological implications.

I feel like I wouldn't be too bothered about it if I was 'raped' by someone I wouldn't mind sleeping with... however if it was some Muslim/Nigger/Kike/ect. I would probably have to honor-kill myself

Fucking pussilanimous

Rape is usually perpetrated by a nigger. Being touched by a nigger, especially intimately is often worse than death.

>Being touched by a nigger, especially intimately is often worse than death.
this

>thinking that if you got raped the rapist would of course be a man

user...

psychological damage, you feel really dirty and damaged afterwards, also, it's pretty scary

It's not so much the rape but whether the rapist will kill you after to try to get away or if it's the type of rapist that can only cum when he sees you dying (ie. strangling you and watching you die makes me ejaculate hard)

Sweden - So assumed rape victim, can't be that bad she still voted for more

elaborate on the psychological damage though

what is it about it? The power struggle, a shattered belief?

same desu

It's not the physical, but the emotional injury to the victim that is greater. That's why a guy getting raped by a guy is way more brutal (and joked about) than guy getting beaten by a guy.

There are women who have been raped and say that feminists are making it just worse saying it to be _the worst thing ever_, because then the women expect the be absolutely destroyed by it and if they aren't they feel guilty.

I honestly do not think it to be any worse than severe beating. Physical abuse that surely leaves some emotional scars, but nothing you can not get over with. How some people believe it is worse than death is beyond me. With that rational, suicide would be a cure and an upgrade. If your sister gets kidnapped and raped, would you really think "why didn't they just kill her? Why did they rape and let her go?!". Who the hell would think like that?

Ah yes.. feminists.

Well I wouldn't want to be raped either. Also it's because they're subconsciously afraid of carrying an inferior man's seed. Women use sex as a commodity

Yes and that will not happen if you fuck hundred of guys free-willingly.

It's by-and-large a crime specific against females. Also, society is extremely protective of female sexuality. With these combined, (((they))) can use it as leverage in virtually any situation.

It's because most of the time they'll orgasm from it. They enjoyed it but they feel like they shouldnt.

>I honestly do not think it to be any worse than severe beating
agree ... to an extent

if the victim gets an std or prego by the rapist... THAT is worse than a beating.

A beating is temporary, but stds are forever

>It's because most of the time they'll orgasm from it
sauce?

>ctrl+f "evolution"
>0 results

1) Because they derive their power from controlling access to their vagina. It's the most precious thing they have.

2) Because they know that being raped damages them in the eyes of men, so they need to compensate by bitching "muh ptsd" so that at least the beta cucks will still want to date them.

3) Because often they enjoy it while raped and it shames them (I'm talking about true rapes with actual physical violence here, not regret "rapes" or drunk "rapes" with their fuck buddies)

We don't take kindly to you "monkey" fellas around here

You should get raped. I want to see you just shrug it off.

>checks flag

Oh. Now your comment makes sense.

You need a source for that? Have you ever been with any woman in your life? They love being hit, humiliated, insulted, dominated, choked etc. It's their top fantasy.

Well I am not a lesbian so no I have not ever been with a woman

and from your statements I now know that you have not been with a woman either

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This. Rape is one of the worst things evolutionarily for a woman.

1) You might become pregnant from someone with shitty genes and have to lose vast amounts of caloric resources and health for the next 9 months. In past ages you would have a very high chance of dying during birth. No man would want to date a rape victim. You would have no resources to raise the kid so you would need to throw it off a cliff or something.

2) Rape is dangerous. The guy could kill you.

3) If the guy is passably attractive then there's a chance you orgasm, because its the most aggressive situation you've ever been in. Yet at the same time you feel emotionally violated. If you have a male partner you'll never be able to explain this to them without them judging you.

4) As a young woman you have this feeling of being above the average guy in your society. That you are in some way special, princess like. To have that be taken away from you is like being a Russian aristocrat circa 1917.

True fact here: it's not women who say it's the worst thing ever, it's males who say that.
The whole idea of female chastity is a guarantee for the beta cucks with money to get some sex. And they exercise it through the power of the society. Women in fact love rape, they can't get enough of it. Only it sucks for pencil neck mcgee working as a software engineer that only the muscleheads can get pussy through their alpha male strength.

If you're a woman, then you know that what I say is true (although I assume that your ability to delude yourself is much stronger than ours).

I have a girl and I insult her and physically dominate her when I fuck her. All girls I fucked liked that as well. Its no wonder 50 shades of grey is a best seller for (((women))).

You are either spiritually incompetent, or you have been trolled unbelievably badly.

Rape hurts. A lot.

Feeling powerless, weak. That shit hurts on a whole other level.

Physically, it's not exciting, it is not pleasurable. Just because you have a dick inside you doesn't mean you'll get wet. Dry vagina = painful vagina. Imagine getting fucked in your ass without lube. Kind of like that.

The weight of a bigger person on top of you, bearing down, holding you down. Some women might enjoy that, but it isn't pleasant generally. You can hardly breathe, and it's painful too.

And most rapes come with beatings. Guns. Knives. Threats that those weapons will be used if you don't comply.

That's all part of rape, briefly.

I wouldn't wish it on any man, woman, or child.

It's ponderous, isn't it? If they like the guy, it's the best thing ever. If they don't know the guy, it's the worst thing ever.

There are rare instances in which even the act of rape can in fact be justified. Here are four off the top of my head:

1. As punisment for a false accusation of rape in which the punishment has already been meted out.

Suppose Heather has a crush on Dick, a man with suitably Freudian moniker. Heather hits on Dick, but Dick takes no notice of her. In reality, Dick wants nothing to do with Heather. Heather, after realizing this, plots revenge. She goes to a bar and lies to the tough guys there "I was raped! Dick did it!"

The mob, riled up, surrounds Dick and beats him to death, despite Dick's pleas. They leave, while Heather examines the corpse. Unbeknownst to her, a big black man was watching the entire ordeal, from the accusation to the beating.

"I saw what you did," says the black man, "and now you're gonna get what's coming to you". It would be that man's moral right to rape the living shit out of that worthless cunt.

Alternatively, suppose after the beating, Dick gets back up, but the hemmoraging in his brain leaves him only five minutes to live. Dick too would have the right to rape her within the remaining timeframe of his life. Since he was punished for a crime he didn't do, he might as well commit it.

2. As retribution for a previously committed rape.

Suppose there's this really dorky kid. Every day a hot bombshell of a babe torments him in school. Rubbing up against him, grabbig his balls and cock, saying she wants him. This drives him to the point of lustful insanity, and he wants no more of it.

The kid, eager to get revenge, enlists the help of a friend. The friend will be on the lookout, while he makes his move.

The girl comes in and starts harassing him.

"Come on baby, I want that hot cock up my pulsating pussy." she says.

(1/2)

(2/2)


"You're wish is my comand, ma'am" replies the kid, as he physically throws himself upon his assailant, assailing her in return. He presses up against her, copping a feel, rubbing. When he has satisfied himself, he stops, much to the horror of the girl.

This too is an act of justifiable rape. It is akin to a kidnapped victim strangling his kidnapper with the very ropes used to tie him up. This also happened in real life. I was the friend who did the lookout.

3. As punishment for a revealing form of dress.

Suppose there's this girl, let's call her Sarah. Sarah lives a rotten lifestyle. She swears at her parents, drinks, does drugs, goes to parties, and gets fucked up. Worst of all, she dresses like a total slut, but only lets popular guys fuck her.

One day at a party full of drugged up scumbags, she passes out on the sofa. A scumbag teenager takes advantage of her. While the act of raping her would be wrong, considering the lifestyle she leads, it would also serve as a wake up call to her as well as her getting her just deserts. Therefore, in a sense, raping her would be justified.

4. As a last recourse to save the human race from extinction.

There is a nuclear war. The survivors are divided into two groups. 10,000 men, and 10,000 nuns (alternatively, 10,000 militant man-hating lesbians). The only way to save the human race is through the act of vaginal intercourse. But there's a catch. the nuns/lesbians do not want to have sex. And they are adamant.

Therefore, to save the human race, the only viable option would be for the 10,000 men to rape the 10,000 women, preferably tying them down so that multiple children could be administered.

Though a woman's sexual and reproductive rights are sacred, they pale in comparison to the survival to the human race.

I hope you enjoyed this dissertation, and I hope it generates some intelligent, profound discussion.

Every women fantasizes about being raped, it just has to be kind of sexy in some way

As I have not been a victim of a rape...I am not stating that you are incorrect in saying that women orgasm during rape, I just would love to see data that supports that, that's all.

Personally, humiliation, insults, ect. doesn't do it for me, but to each their own.

>vagina tears
>bruised cervix
>chance of intected injuries
>chance of multiple diseases
>chance of pregnancy
>chance of single motherhood, shunned for aborting, or scorned for giving up your bastard baby
>general psychological trama of feeling powerless and self-hate due to their own weakness
>reminded that people only view them as objects, not human beings
>humiliation
>can also rape the bum too. With or without lube. Massive damage. May even go from bum to vag causing deadly infection
>stress hormones magnifying the hurt of everything
>can be raped multiple times in a row regardless of injuries, and by multiple people
>rapists don't care about age much: will target the weak, disabled, children, and the elderly too
>chance of getting beaten or murdered
>most cases its done by someone they know and trust, making them realize they can't trust /anyone/
>when the rapist is a stranger, it's often times an ugly nigger

Pretty bad desu. I know I wouldn't want a strange, dirty and diseased nigger to beat me and rape my bum to the point where I can't walk straight since my colon is hanging outside my anus and dripping blood like a Californian dam drips water.

>I just would love to see data that supports that, that's all

I get it, but I guess that it's impossible to observe. You would have to put sensors in, say, 1000 women's cunts and send them to a refugee camp naked without them knowing.

Otherwise the only thing you can do is "surveys". But if you're a woman who orgasmed during rape, are you gonna tell the truth to the survey guy while you lie to your boyfriend about your number of ex lovers?

You dont want AIDS ridden niggerdick in your womb that is reserved for making white children.

Are you niggers and/or cucks?

Of those who report their rapes, around 4–5% also describe experiencing orgasm. But the true numbers are likely much higher. In a 2004 review paper, a clinician reports, "I (have) met quite a lot of victims (males) who had the full sexual response during sexual abuse…I (have) met several female victims of incest and rape who had lubrication and orgasm."

The voices of the internet suggest he's right. Read through the Reddit thread or blogsor comments to articles that discuss orgasm during rape and you find storyafter story: "I was sexually abused at a young age and had an orgasm." "…although I never stopped resisting I was horrified to find myself having a series of multiple orgasms…" "I thought I would never be able to tell – except here." "Reading your post made me feel like maybe I am not such a freak." One woman describes a violent and painful gang rape and recalls, "One of the most disturbing things that happened that night is that I had an orgasm. Despite years of marriage, it was my first orgasm ever."

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This triggers the Sup Forums

No, untrue.

Most women only orgasm from clitoral stimulation.

Most rapists aren't going down on their victims. 99% of victims aren1t having orgasms.

Don't forget men are victims too. Guys don't enjoy rape either, for all the same reasons.

Fuck off achmed, you're really showing your sandnigger.

?

Is this what you do instead of working all day?

>But if you're a woman who orgasmed during rape, are you gonna tell the truth to the survey guy while you lie to your boyfriend about your number of ex lovers?

Confirming your original claim that "most women orgasm during rape" is absolute utter bullshit with no supporting evidence .

You are simply just 'guessing' that victims orgasm during rape, and even worse... using your own personal consensual experiences as if that somehow makes your claim credible.

They realize that their pussy is not a priceless commodity like they are led to believe

Not only my experiences. Also observation that women are more sexually attracted to powerful or physically strong guys, to aggressive and dominant behaviour.

As for rape being one of the most frequent fantasies in women, it is widely documented, as is the fact that 50 shades of grey was a bestsellers.

So it's easy to guess that a lot of them do orgasm during rape.

Pretty sure they do have literature discussing testimonies of a minority women having orgasms during rape. I bet if you did an analysis, it would depend on how attractive the guy is and how r-selected the woman is. However the rape fantasies that most women have are in no way equivalent to actual rape. They implicitly assume that they already are super attracted to the guy (why would such a guy rape?), that the guy even though he is 110% in charge still only does what they want (i.e. not stabbing them with a knife). Like they imagine some 6ft2 ripped duke with a doctorate who wears ripped jeans, a tank top and a musky cologne come back to his mansion after working a small sweat from winning a boxing match against the toughest guy in town, flirting with her slightly, smiling cockily while pushing her against the wall, ignoring her protests, forcing her prone, giving her orgasm after orgasm with her protests slowly dying out. Not some 42 year old immigrant crackhead with a rusty fork against her throat.

>Despite years of marriage, it was my first orgasm ever."
now that is terrible

interesting...I'll look into it -thanks user

Of course you always masturbate by thinking to an attractive person.

But attractivity being equal, men are mostly not aroused by coercing women into having sex with them, they're aroused by the idea of "possessing" a woman who worship their cock and strongly desires them because they're awesome.

The fact that women have these rape fantasies does prove that being violented, dominated and coerced into having sex is arousing in itself for them.

This. The worst thing is if she gets an orgasm during the rape. It makes her question her entire personality

Because sex is our lowest function, memories of it stay forever and really fuck with your head.
Vaguely sexual memories go to a completely different part of my psyche, let alone purely sexual ones. I can still remember first orgasm, every boob I've ever seen IRL and in a ton of porn, defining moments in porn, etc.
The fucking song in the background of girls gone wild commercials is burned into my brain and I haven't seen one sine I was 13.
Now take that same unshakable memory and attach something like rape or molestation and you have your own personal hell. That's why victims almost always end up fucked up with eating disorders or severe psychological issues.

>more worse

Genuine girl confirmed. Also Tits or GTFO

Women like rape.
They just want men to think they think it's the worst thing, because it gives them the power to yell RAPE and have some idiot come running to save her.

Camille Paglia was interviewed about this years ago.

SPIN: But don't you think that people see a man getting beat up and a woman getting raped as completely different? Do you think rape should be considered as serious a crime as murder?

Paglia: That's absurd. I dislike anything that treats women as if they are special, frail little creatures. We don't need special protection. Rape is an assault. If it is a totally devastating psychological experience for a woman, then she doesn't have a proper attitude toward sex.

It's this whole stupid feminist thing about how we are basically nurturing, benevolent people, and sex is a wonderful thing between two equals. With that kind of attitude, then of course rape is going to be a total violation of your entire life, because you have had a stupid, naive, Mary Poppins view of life to begin with.

Sex in a turbulent power that we are not in control of; it's a dark force. The sexes are at war with each other. That's part of the excitement and interest of sex. It's the dark realm of the night. When you enter the realm of the night, horrible things can happen there. You can be attacked on a dark street. Does that mean we should never go into dark streets? Part of my excitement as a college student in the Sixties was coming out of the very protective Fifties. I was wandering those dark streets understanding that not only could I be raped, I could be killed.

It's like the gay men going down to the docks and having sex in alleyways and trucks; it's the danger. Feminists have no idea that some women like to flirt with danger because there is a sizzle in it.

You cant really talk if its never happened to you.

I cant imagine being held down and having someone forcefully penetrate you and do something so intimate is a great thing to experience.

A lot of girls lose their fucking minds after getting raped, develop horrible mental illnesses like schizophrenia and other things.

This. My boyfriend beats me and I'm ok with it because he is white

Girls love that shit, I'm assuming you've never been with a man.

t. bf is blood relative

>This. My boyfriend educates me and I'm ok with it because it shows me my true place

Fixed it for you

This is really simple.

All women fantasize about rape as long as it follows certain parameters:

What they expect:

>Handsome and dangerous David Beckham kind of guy loses it
>Throws her against the wall roughly but not too rough as to hurt her
>Whispers in her ear "I can't control myself anymore"
>As he holds her down and covers her mouth she gets a whiff of his 500$ parfume
>After they're done he leaves her there lonely in the cold as she is still squirming from the orgasm she tried to hold back
>Couple of months later she finds out she's pregnant from David fucking Beckham
>Set for life

What actually happens:

>Pakistan-Nigerian guy punches her in the face
>She tries to focus on the pain from having lost her front tooth to avoid passing out from the stink of the negroid
>As she looks down she can see a bunch of fleas and other insects near his crotch area
>Bleeding from her vags
>He gives her a sloppy tongue kiss after they're done with his stinky mustache and beard further contaminating her body with some sort of bugs
>She kills herself

I'm actually male. I'm just mentally ill cause gay and this sort of abuse is what I deserve

You sound like someone who thinks their entitled to pussy.

Youre the inferior genes we have been talking about.

Sup Forums should collaborate on writing erotica. We can ghost-write the next bestseller, get some cam-girl to pretend to be the author, and use the money to buy one of those tiny island countries.

Did someone ever spit on your face? Or laughed at you? or made you look bad in front of someone important to you?
Shame is a real, very human emotion, that only autistic or incredibly spiritually strong people don't have.
Rape is the ultimate humiliation.

I do not consider myself primarily gay but i get
aroused by the thought of a dick plowing into my ass
since there would be sexual stimulus.

Women don't have honour. They don't feel guilt, only shame.

I guess I'm the latter.

>Girls rape too meme
I honestly do not understand how this is possible, except in the 1/500 chance that the woman is physically dominant.

You weren't even in this thread, and you haven't refuted any of my well-crafted talking points.

Who the fuck are you, some whore? Gas yourself.

>only autistic or incredibly spiritually strong people
why did you add that second group?
if you hadn't I would've agreed with everything you said

Your french. You know nothing of honour.

>Getting ass fucked feels good
user, that takes time. There's a reason most fags were raped as children.

They literally had no choice but to endure the pain.

Ive read every statement you wrote and I can tell you think you deserve pussy just for existing.

It's more than a beating...he was INSIDE YOU against your own will. Also, if you were ever robbed, you know that it can be pretty fucking scary. Some people end up being fearful for years after being mugged, and that usually takes just a few seconds.

IIncest, STDs, if you're a kid, the woman is super disgusting, you're super effeminate, or she is unhinged and has a knife or something. I don't see how a man can be 'raped' by a half-way normal woman. I mean its technically rape, but if you get upset by it your genes are an evolutionary dead end.

I was mugged and it didn't phase me at all.

...

"You don't deserve pussy" is just another way of saying "MUH VAGINA" and drawing unwarranted attention towards yourself.

You are a whore. Females don't belong on this board.

>It's this whole stupid feminist thing about how we are basically nurturing, benevolent people
This is instantly refuted by the fact that rape is worse for men than for women
Paglia is fundamentally wrong about both the badness of rape and the source of our belief in it

That's because you're an autistic retard. I genuinely hope you get raped. Torture and rape are basically the two worst things that can happen to you and still being alive. So yes, it is super shitty.

>Muh sisterhood social censorship works on an anonymous message board.

Back in the kitchen toots. If you even know how to cook something remotely edible.

Porn is so endemic in modern culture, and legit social interaction so rare, that autists legitimately wonder why rape is bad.

they hate rape because it's a situation they're not getting anything in return, women give sex always in exchange of something, when you take away the part that they get free shit they get mad.

Whereas I'm sure you love when Jamal rams his nigger dick up your puckered white asshole and beg for more, you fucking retarded faggot.

>dubs
>the correct answer
>no replies

hmm

Because it's the truth, a lot of spiritual disciplines involve shutting down the ego, and you can't feel shame without an ego. And it's a completely possible and real thing to do.

>Sexes are at war with each other
Being this divorced from reality, it's unsurprising that she thinks:
>Sex is a dark force that we are not in control of

This woman is maladjusted. Pseudointellectuals always gravitate toward these sorts of statements because they sound deep if you lack the capacity to analyze/think.

Apparently you can't read. I sad shame, not honor, not guilt.
And besides, I was talking about rape in general. What I said applies to both man and woman.

>I HAVE BEEN FOUND OUT SHUT IT DOWN!
you're not fooling anyone here
you know the drill
TITS OR GTFO.

Did he pointed a gun at your face? or did he asked you for your wallet and you give it without resistance just in case he was armed?

Sup Forums may not like to hear this, but your view is a symptom of degeneracy
you believe in a fundamentally hedonistic ethic, which is also subjectivistic
I can prove this if you care but I'm not gonna bother typing it out otherwise

suffice it to say: Sup Forums, you can't both pretend to repudiate people like Locke and Mill and at the same time believe that the only way a crime against a person could possibly be bad is if it caused them pain