When transgemderism falls out of style and the mass suicides occur, what then?

A girl I was friends with in high school came out as trans today, bros. It disturbs me because this is one of the smartest people I know, and the fact that even the most intelligent elites of our society buy into this trend that will ultimately result in the mass suicides of thousands who will fall into depression after receiving the body mutilating surgeries they so desperately crave. Is transgenderism the death of the modern world, guys? Sure a lot of these people are misguided, but they would still make decent future doctors, scientists and officials undoubtedly. What will their loss mean for the developed world? I fear for humanity.

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>A girl I was friends with in high school
>High school

it's just a mental disorder that isn't addressed because the jews love what it's doing to Christianity

Ironically her family is jewish

>they would still make decent future doctors, scientists and officials undoubtedly
Trans people can still do these things.

>mass suicides of thousands who will fall into depression after receiving the body mutilating surgeries
Transitioning doesn't make trans people suicidal and depressed, depression and being suicidal usually come first.

This, but transtrenders don't actually have gender dysphoria and thus don't have the suicidal tendencys and depression that comes with it that keeps actual trans suicide rates high

do FtM have as high a suicide rate as MtF? I would assume that it's way easier to transition to a man. Just shoot yourself full of steroids and have at it.

depression is a choice

complaining about the sex organs you were BORN with is lunacy

You would think that any mental condition with this high of a rate of suicide would be very unpopular and avoided. Putting aside the whole "muh true self" and "trapped in my own body" spiel, why is gender dysphoria treated with such acceptance?

also this

A transtrender without dysphoria is likely to have regrets if they do something permanent to themselves. I'm not sure how common that really is.

repeat a lie enough and people will believe it.
if everyone is tells you that you are just remembering the past wrong, or this is how things "should be", how do you combat that? gas lighting works on just about everyone when they aren't looking paying attention.

I never accepted it. I hate transtrenders and I don't think transgender people should be given what they want and instead the mental disease of gender dysphoria should be addressed.

Nice job putting words in peoples mouths for just giving you a reason

Testosterone is more powerful after puberty. An FtM will often end up as a manlet but will have an easier time looking masculine. Starting hormones earlier helps a lot. I'm not sure about the relative suicide rates.

Why do you anons think that the mental disorder is not addressed?

>why is gender dysphoria treated with such acceptance
Gender dysphoria can't be helped and can be a worse hell than you can probably imagine. You can't just make it go away either. Only transitioning helps.

The massive wave of accepted mutilation is a major factor.

They'll expect some of their own in the fire.

psychiatric help?

Because the only treatment is something that still leaves them in the same boat towards suicide. The actual mental disease isn't being treated, we are just letting people succumb to it, therefore it is not addressed.

>I never accepted it. I hate transtrenders and I don't think transgender people should be given what they want and instead the mental disease of gender dysphoria should be addressed.
Forget transtrenders. There is only one way to deal with gender dysphoria - transitioning. There is no other option. You have no choice but to accept the existence of trans people because it's a life and death issue. You're dealing with people who can get to the point of having nothing to lose.

The natural selection will sort it our eventually. If, over a big period of time, trans genderism will lead to significant disadvantage, it will go extinct, If not, than not.

So the only way to treat a disease specifically centered on being dissatisfied with your sex is to get cosmetic surgery and pretend to be that sex? That is the most backwards ass logic I have ever heard.

Medical help. HRT and surgeries. There is no psychiatric cure or help for gender dysphoria. It's only useful for dealing with the depression, anxiety, and insecurity that accompany dysphoria.

why has a massive rise in the number of transgender people happened in the past few years? what did people in the early 1900s do about this dilemma? there has to be another option other than transforming or killing them selves

the movement is self-correcting, just like the hippies killed themselves this will regress back to the mean

>depression and suicide usually come first
And after they get the mutilating surgeries they crave and the novelty of it wears off, what then? You think anyone's going to be mentally stable after realizing they've destroyed their body beyond the point of recompense?

I can't see the problem here.

You can call up your female friend who's now a guy, ask "him" if "he" wants to hook-up, therefore allowing you to fuck a guy without being gay

You know what you must do OP

It's not about logic, it's about reality. There is nothing else you can do about it.

Yeah, they'll be there waiting.

The world laughs and sighs with relief

If you have a micropenis wouldn't you be better off larping as a girl than evolving into an r9fag?

So you would rather people live with such a disorder rather then try to find a way to cure it? Transitioning isn't a cure, its a workaround that still leads to suicide. I'd rather people feel comfortable in their body without need to transition and not want to kill themselves.

>fuck a guy
>not gay
I hate this shitty ass trans timeline

Repressed it.

More people are coming out because it is starting to be more accepted

>Sup Forums is this retarded

see
If that is your retort, then why support the transitioning all? They're gonna commit sudoku eventually.

Lol so you didn't ram that Jewess? Let's focus on the REAL issue here, OP is a beta cuck therefore allowing transgenderism to proliferate

Yeah but "he's" not a "guy", "yet".

>It's not gay if the girl happens to have a penis

There are a lot of post-op suicides, m8

this thread is going round in circles

You combat it with righteous persistence friend. Don't give up and don't sleep through your day. If you hear close ones spouting this nonsense then knock them out of it and don't be scared to argue your point, if it's right it'll be easy.

I want to turn my little brother into a femboy

>they repressed it
>no notable suicide rates among that community

>transitioning is the only option!
>mass suicide in the community

>ression after receiving the body mutilating surgeries they so desperately crave. Is transgenderism the death of the modern world, guys? Sure a lot of these people are misguided, but they would still make decent future doctors, scientists and officials undoubtedly. What will their loss mean for the developed world? I fear for humanity.

>mfs this is history for the last 2000 years

Pilate was distressed

>why has a massive rise in the number of transgender people happened in the past few years?
There's more publicity now, that's all. I don't know what people did in the early 20th century but I know in the 20s there were experimental surgeries. I imagine trans people would often kill themselves, resort to self-mutilation, maybe eat animal ovaries/testicles as a type of primitive HRT.

The thing is that now that people know about gender dysphoria and how to treat it medically, a lot of people who would have suffered without knowing what was wrong with them can now get help and have hope for some kind of a life. Hating on trans people just makes it harder. For the most part trans people don't want trouble, and giving them trouble makes it harder for everyone.

A lot of people think they can basically bully trans people out of their gender dysphoria, but that doesn't work, it just makes trans people more depressed and dysfunctional. It has nothing to do with parents and how they raise their kids either.

You can fight trans people and make them more miserable and dysfunctional, or you can if not accept them at least tolerate them. If they don't feel so harassed by society, they're more likely to be functional members of society.

Op didn't have the balls to miscegenate with our women...this downfall

If someone has gender dysphoria then there is no problem, they'll just live their lives. This study:
dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.sexol.2006.04.002
Shows a drop in suicide rates.
Transtrenders could have problems but someone with gender dysphoria is going to feel dramatically better about their body and will be more stable. More social acceptance helps trans people be more functional and stable.

Well I don't know what else to tell you. If there was some magical cure to make me feel normal I would take it.

Don't you have some a pair of twin boys to force to mutual molestation?

She dated a buddy of mine all through that time, but they broke up just cause she wasn't feeling the relationship anymore. Then she went to dating chicks, then two years later she decides she's a dude named Calvin and says she was a dude the whole time. I suppose her coming out as a dude isn't the really disturbing part so much of the amount of people who accept her delusions. I want off this ride bros, so bad.

Let her go through it, it's none of your business and stop lieing to yourself that you're concerned about mankind's future LOL!

You're just using Sup Forums to push your agenda like everyone else.

No?
I'm just saying Transitioning would be better than being a fat neckbeard 4channer

Fuck his pussy

In the end, all women are whores

Suicide is a meme that is not true. Stop with the BS. There is zero evidence for mass suicides among transitioned trans people. The only way for someone with gender dysphoria to feel comfortable with their body is to transition, period. Dysphoria probably arises from brain structures that are set before birth. How are you going to cure that? By some kind of brain surgery that's beyond our capabilities? HRT and costmetic/reconstructive surgery are possible now, brain surgery to cure dysphoria is science fiction. Anyway, given a choice, I bet most people with gender dysphoria would choose to transition rather than get the nonexistent brain surgery.

Why is it always a leaf?

Queer incest, this is what the Jews have done to this fucking poor leaf who is probably brainwashed from jacking off 3-5 times a day to his ever degrading porn addiction.

Stop jacking off, lift some weights, talk to some real women, and for fucks sake go clean your room and sort yourself out faggot.

>If that is your retort, then why support the transitioning all? They're gonna commit sudoku eventually.
Because it helps. Your suicide meme is BS.

Androgeny and queerness in a society are signs of it's impending end.

>this is one of the smartest people I know
>A girl

stop reading from a script, faggot

It's only incest if a babby is form
Bro/bro, dad/son, grandpa/grandson, cousin/cousin, uncle/nephew isn't incest because there will be no offspring

>There are a lot of post-op suicides, m8
dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.sexol.2006.04.002
Attempt rates drop.

>this is one of the smartest people I know
kek your life on the short bus

Mass? Damn OP, there must be a lot more transgenders out there than fact suggests. You sure this just isn't your little wet dream that the world is filled with transgenders?

because Satan is lord of this earth

The suicides are what ((they)) intended.

Praise be to kek.

>mfs this is history for the last 2000 years

Can someone explain this? When did previous civilizations have a huge rise in transgenderism or similar illnesses? What happened?

>this thread is going round in circles
Because Sup Forums isn't interested in facts and reality, only in endlessly repeating stale anti-trans memes. People here like to think they're so smart, they could prove it by actually learning something.

Because success rates increase.

well put, come back to bed, dad

Supporting the transitions are what will finally get people to realize trans people arent going to be happy one way or another and when the suicide rates remain unchanged (currently higher than that of veterans) maybe society will wake the fuck up and stop welcoming this disease with open arms.

I'm not done leafpost kiddo, but you can get the maple syrup straight from the tap if you want

This. Suicides and the prevention of breeding.

BS meme. Transitioning often happens because one is suicidal over dysphoria.

>Your suicide meme is BS.

Wew lad. I knew y'all reject reality, but I didn't realize it was to such an extent!

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>Because success rates increase.
Cite please.

And the Synagouge of Satan is the main boss. However, God smile upon his Aryan ubermensch heroes in their never ending quest to squelch degeneracy once and for all

It's not going to fall out of style. Androgyny is happening. Many "men" look like boys and fall into the realm of "androgyny". Maybe it's the water... Who knows? Maybe some guys are being more in tune with the circumstances they're given. It's not going away.

>mfw this is considered feminine on Sup Forums

>Magic sky man meme

>mfw

Who gives two shits about religion? Homosexuality is one thing well documented in the natural world, but what sane animal willingly mutilates itself to imitate the opposite sex? We're not talking about defying Christ or any other religion, were talking about the defiance of natural order and reason.

>and wtf mfw

That survey is for self-reported lifetime suicide attempts and not about completed suicides or changes with transitioning and surgery. No one is denying that suicidal ideation is high in those with gender dysphoria. The false meme is that people with gender dysphoria are worse off and more suicidal after transitioning. That survey does not address the timing issue.

I still look like a young boy but I don't look like a girl, that's a whole other line entirely. It's virtually impossible for a male to actually look like a female unles they're trying to.

>punch
What does the rest of the shirt say?

The truth about the transgender issue is it doesn't really exist. It didn't even exist a decade ago. Sure there were a couple of fags who dressed up like chicks, but those were just transvestites and they weren't so mentally ill to think they were actually women.
Over the past decade this insane theory of gender malleability has gained prominence and weak minded and opportunistic neurotics have latched onto it for any number of reasons. Some see it as the reason they're unhappy and a clear action to take to make them better. Some need attention and see it as a way to be a part of a group for the first time. Some want victim status for social power. Etcetera, etcetera. There will be as many reasons as there are people, but the PRIMARY reason is that it has become a popular fad. This has caused the barrier of entry for such behavior to drop to such a level as to make it a realistic choice for these poor people. That's the root problem.
Something that pisses me off is this talk about how dick chopping surgery is the "only treatment available". Bullshit. It's bodily mutilation and reinforces their delusions. If we had a rash of people who thought they were napolean the "only treatment" wouldn't be to give them all hats and sceptres. The only treatment would be to put them into mental institutions where they could become well again.

The society-wide "acceptance" of this behavior is really just apathy and lack of community. Nobody cares enough about these people to give them tough love and force them to look at reality. Instead we celebrate them for a day when they come out, and then ignore them as they spiral into drug abuse and eventual suicide.

TLDR; fuck trans faggots

Even if the suicide statistics have dropped, why would you still tolerate accepting this condition? There is still a major chance of that individual committing suicide either way. Why should anyone tolerate that? Why would you intentionally persuade someone into something you KNOW has a correlation with suicide?

>Tfw 23 but mistaken for 19
>Tfw sometimes asked for id

Most of looking like a female is in the makeup. That's my point. The vast majority of them look like ugly dudes without it. Some even end up looking MORE masculine

Kill yourself for defending this vile shit you scumbag. You are a brainwashed tool

And no it isn't impossible. You need to work on makeup. Chicks dedicate their whole existence to it. It's basically the sole reason they ever get fucked in the first place

I wish I had Harry Potter sorting hat memes for posters like you

I secretly only give a fuck about non degenerate white people. Can I had community naow?

That's an insult to alcohol.

>Something that pisses me off is this talk about how dick chopping surgery is the "only treatment available".

I once asked a tranny if they would accept a true, neurological cure that essentially would solve the problem in their mind. They said no, but also said that its been "looked into" and its not possible. What pile of horse shit. The cure for cancer still hasnt been found but that doesnt mean medical research has stopped.

I can definitely understand and sympathize with people who truly feel "in the wrong body" but the surgery just seems like a sloppy, makeshift solution that doesnt really fix the underlying problem. Curing the mental illness would be much more effective. Sometimes it even seems like many trannies just want to dress as the opposite sex while collecting sympathy points.

>You would think that any mental condition with this high of a rate of suicide
Honestly, this may even make it more appealing to them. Bonus victim points.

Makeup is just as evil as beauty surgeries. It fakes ones' genetic quality and thus contributes to dysgenics.

But it's true though man. Makeup changes people completely if they're good at it: whether male or female and not at the two extremes of masculine and feminine.