When will we get traditional values back?

When will we get traditional values back?

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Never again.

Fuck off, I need traditionalism back, I really fucking do

How long is going to take? Do you reckon men will rise up at some point? I fucking hope so.

When Hollywood is no more. It's a poison factory

That's a very small part of the problem - you have MILLIONS of people, in both your country and mine (and across other Western countries), who unironically believe in regressive, backwards, unscientific ideas around gender, the family, children, all this basic stuff that is ABSOLUTELY FUNDAMENTAL to humanity.

Attempted bump

when islam takes over

>50s
>traditional
Yeah no

What is done, cannot be undone. Its gone.

Fucking faggot

Take your shitskin hokey and shove it up your arse

You have enough experience sticking your hand around that area as it is

You can literally just wait until marriage to have sex and marry a woman who will just make pancakes and have children.
To find these women go to cricket matches, church, rugby matches, equestrian centres, shooting grounds, national trust sites on bank holidays and weekends. You're also more likely to find these types of women in more affluent areas.

If you already have a girlfriend and want them to have children, just expose them to babies and toddlers, they will eventually want one. They always break in the end. When they come to you wanting a baby just say "put a ring on it hoe."

Oh it goes without saying non-believers are out, secularists are lifetime degenerates.

That's false - America went from the 1920s (flappers) to the 1950s (traditionalism) didn't it?

Not to mention the Roman Empire collapsed into degenerate morals, after having strong morals - and other societies that followed it also had strong morals, before degenerating.

When is our revolution?

Yeah I guess you're right, just focus on one's own life. But seeing all these Corbyn-supporting Marxists really worries me. They could really make things difficult for traditional people. They pathologically HATE traditional people. That worries me. How long can it go on for?

>equestrian centres
Horse women are fucking crazy, though.

I'm trying to bring them back. I definitely will not have a job when I have kids unless absolutely necessary. I really want to be able to stay home and give my future family the best life they can have

yup

You have to change the laws first.

And to change the laws, you would need to either overthrow the system, or go through it.

Women are the majority in democracies. Passing any law that doesn't favor them is political suicide.

So basically no. You won't get traditional values back until society collapses.

It is women and democracy's fault for this.

(Cross-thread)
>You have to change the laws first.
>And to change the laws, you would need to either overthrow the system, or go through it.
>Women are the majority in democracies. Passing any law that doesn't favor them is political suicide

This is fucking bullshit you just have to do what the guy ...You know Joseph Smith did. Pick an area with a low population density and move there in mass. Then you control the local government. What are they going to do, send in troops if a million plus people stop paying federal taxes?

Yes that's exactly what they will do.
And you will be called a terrorist while they cut you down.

Looking that pic makes me realize how humans are becoming more degenerate these years, and we need another great flooding.

States cannot overturn federal laws. Furthermore, there won't be infrastructure to support a mass movement of people.

And further-furthermore, even if you do somehow manage to pull it off, its fate will be that of white suburbs; the degenerates will move in and completely disrupt your harmony.

You have no defense, you'll have to hop from place to place, creating paradise, only to have it destroyed by the same method by which it was created.

How hard would it be to just kill them? I'd imagine that 2-4 million dedicated, well armed, and well funded could kill like 30-50 million cucks, degenerates, and commies in only a couple of years. Who would stop them? Especially if they're decentralized, with no country of origin or bloodline to wipe out.

When food, shelter, and jobs are scarce.

>States cannot overturn federal laws. Furthermore, there won't be infrastructure to support a mass movement of people.

They've already proven with sanctuary cities that states can do whatever they want
Once the number surpasses an amount they can't do shit the pics of them killing people will go viral and they will lose control

When you start following the traditional values yourself and become a strong, independent, confident man.

It isn't something that exists in a vacuum, there won't be an announcement saying everyone has to follow traditionalist doctrine starting next Monday.

You cultivate it in community, inspire others to follow your example, teach your children how to be decent people so that when they grow up they'll spread decency around them.

You, them and your community voting is a consequence of a lengthy process.

It took liberalism 30 years to infect and dissolve traditional communities and rebuilding it will be much harder, but even if a relatively small group work towards this goal independently of each other, great and wonderful things can happen.

that picture literally contains the dream of my life, long time ago was easy and normal, by now, seems the most impossible task to accomplice, (((((them)))) fucked up female's mind so bad...there are no more real womens, ((((they))) have done something terribile to us

But who gave women "rights"?

Do you listen to Jorden Peterson....Children socialise each other so sending them to a place filled with children of postmodernists is the exact opposite of what you're trying to do.

You have to be around like minded people if you want it to work.

Well since nearly every Western nation is importing socially conservative Muslims shouldn't old time values be coming back.

Women/gays/blasphemy/abortion etc.

Aren't Muslims a lot closer to the religious right politically? If you to sit a Christian Republican down with the average Muslim from fucking anywhere wouldn't they see eye to eye on most things barring:

1. Who is God.

2. Israel.

3. Foreign policy?

Shit just realized you are a limey. But you get the point.

laws don't fix degeneracy

even the most socially repressive regimes collapse, leading to progressives taking over the mechanisms and having more reach (hence germany)

only absolute freedom of markets and zero welfare or government services (beyond national defense) will fix social problems

>Well since nearly every Western nation is importing socially conservative Muslims shouldn't old time values be coming back.

can't build a society with 85 IQ inbred Muslims

...

Do family values need Oppenheimer tier IQs?

The (((KKK))) supported it as a way of pushing prohibition.

Yes, there is a biological intelligence barrier to living in a first world country...No sub 90 country is out of the third world

...

This, or when the mexicans become majority.

>tfw because boomers were triggered that they didn't like this American dream imagery they ruined it for us

Yeah....Nowhere else has the oil wealth per capita.

So yeah a tiny country with an average IQ of 78 can have a decent society during this specific 100 year period which is coming to an end because of massive oil wealth

Was the West won by white papers or true grit?

Liberals won't have it with how far they push degenerative and counter intuitive ideals

You mean white girl titties cause civilization?

It was won by guns and trains and more guns and roads and innovation.

So how will they turn socially conservative immigrants into gay rights and feminazi supporting libfags?

Who gave them their rights? Doesn't matter all that much to me. Pandora's box is open.

Go ahead and kill all the jews you want, the genie of "women's rights" isn't going back into the bottle.

It's true, laws don't fix degeneracy. All they can do is discourage it or encourage it.

Welfare should abolished as that is part of the problem fueling single mothers. The government becomes the father.

Freedom of markets has nothing to do with whether your wife will leave you or not. I'm sure it's a worthy prospect to pursue, but it bears nothing on this conversation, which is about culture and society.

The problem is that muslims won't cooperate with the christians. All the muslims do is weaken the religious right by divide-and-conquer.

And as I've stated, women are the majority either way and won't vote against their base interests which is more "free stuff" (appropriation of men's resources by the state) and more unaccountability (no fault divorce is an example of this).

Its actually in our balls but hey

After all the Kikes have been gassed or shipped off to Israel.

But until then start building it yourself.

When you stop being nigger loving faggots...

You mean like Feudalism, where most of us are vassal tenants to a hereditary lord? Yeah ,that might take a while.

those were never my values anyway. i dont care anymore. all i want is comfort and ease.

New England with save us all. New political party in the US based on only the good shit, New England. It what people are waiting for and has almost zero faults.

Muslims supported Bush overwhelmingly in the 2000 US election. The Lib/Muslim lovefest didn't start until after 9-11. For the libs it was part of their "support any foe oppose any friend" doctrine.

What do you mean by "traditional" values?

After the war, most of us will be dead tho

You need to know the theories that drove the lunacy of today

Theodor Adorno
Wilhelm Reich
Erich Fromm

Read it and understand what you must destroy

Kikes are a global entity. They don't have to be in your country to influence it.

Even the non jewish (((politicians))) will follow the sway of the internationalist clique of Israel.

Furthermore, women are the ones who predominantly vote for these degenerate policies. Unless you're calling out the vaginal jew, you seem to miss the bullet on this one.

First you have to somehow stop women from being degenerate which doesn't seem to be possible without laws backing you to allow societal consequences for degeneracy. But the only reason you need to do this is to change the laws, so it's a catch 22.

Today. It starts with you, fag.

>falling for retarded memes

No one is stopping you from finding a pretty wife and raising three adorable children like you have in your pic, OP. Raising your family with traditional values starts at home - it's your responsibility to implement them.

what the fuck did you just say

I doubt they'll come back, but fetishizing the past like some hipster faggot definitely won't help.

I would say it is exactly the problem. Most, if not all, societies share very common basic traits in their traditional values. It is only when the Jewish media moves in that those values go out the door.

This man would like a word with you

>only "females"' mind
men are just as fucked up and degenerate, don't you see all the racemixing and trap shit Sup Forumslacks post regularly?
Might have started with women's rights, but it fucked up the men as well
even if some woman wanted to be traditional, finding a non degenate, non cuck man must be a near impossible task and not as short term rewarding as being a slut for cocks and attention

People are a lot happier across the board now than in whichever time you fetishize

Yes, goy. Very happy.

Not even close

They make more money but after you make enough money to pay the bills money doesn't increase happiness

People today suffer from a lack of sense of purpose and social responsibility than at any other time.

People didn't have any purpose back then either, they didn't have shit to do but go make money to take care of their stupid kids and lazy wife, take you or anyone else from this board, if you went back to the 50s or whenever you'd literally commit suicide out of boredom because of the lack of the internet.

They typically had a sense of familial belonging and also of belonging to a nation with an identity they were a part of. They could go fight in wars feeling patriotic.

I work full time and my wife takes care of my baby boy. I've done my part to continue the white race. Get your shit together faggot.

This. You will never convince women to close the door on sexual liberation. It will take force, violence, fascism, islam,etc.

You better start worrying about which children will be socialising your child because it's basically out of your hands at 5

We need to reintroduce physical discipline as a tool for controlling women.

You must be right given how you lived in the 50s and knew what everyone thought at the time. It's not like people love their families in 2017 or anything, or feel patriotic, that never happens

Does nobody outside of white counties realize that non-white countries have traditional values? Japan, India, South Korea, Taiwan, China, Mexico, Nigeria, etc?

Except you are wrong. Japan and South Korea both have problems.

>implying you had to be alive at a time to know anything about the social climate
I Guess all studies of history are a waste of time.

>People didn't have any purpose back then

Depending on which people and which environs they were living in, just trying to survive was their purpose. They didn't have anything that wasn't created by themselves or in their immediate communities, so providing for basic needs required the majority of their time and labor. We think being self-sufficient is some kind of relic of a bygone era, but there's nothing more empowering.

Neither give homosexuals or transgender people rights. South Korea even allows discrimination. against single mothers: you can lose your job or the place your renting if they find out you're a single mother.

Half of America has traditional values...It's no coincidence that the Republican party voter averages over 50k a year and they also push for traditional values

WOW, I wonder why neither country has any crime. 105 average IQ no single mothers.

Really makes you think

When Jesus comes back and throws all the degenerates in the lake of fire

When we slaughter those who took them away from us by poisoning our society from academia and the media

But what's considered traditional today has been pushed so far left compared to what it used to be. Even conservatives are pro gay marriage now.

>Survivalism
>50s
Survivalist stuff is fine, but that's not what people put on a pedestal in these type of threads, they look up to the 50s type stuff which is basically the same type of capitalist system that we have now, just more boring and bland and less entertaining

It's no coincidence that business owners (even the ones that aren't white men) happen to vote Republican. Look who owns businesses in the US. In my area it's Whites, Indian, Sikh, Mexican, Korean, Laos, Chinese, Japanese, Portuguese, Italians, and Vietnamese.

Daddy, can i haz some moar?

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read in my adult life.

And to do that, you have to change the law.

Which requires women to vote against their interests or for you to overthrow the gub.

It's not happening.

You can't deny that in the 50s, the USA had a for more pro-white, Christian, and nationalistic quality. People still felt connected to their communities and the family unit was still strong. All these things are essential to having a feeling of purpose.
They had God, nation, community, and family much more than we do now.

I know it can't happen but it's what needs to happen.

Posters look at the 50's as:

Less niggers.

Less spics.

Less abortion.

Less upheaval.

As a reference I ask that anyway who cares read the Kerner Commission to understand how we in the US got so fucked up.

And yet the republicans don't do anything to turn back the clock on women's privileges or the welfare state.

They're all talk.

The right in America has been pushed left enough to become impotent.

It's over.

It won't magically grow back.

You need strong institutions to provide the ideological content to form your population moral ground.

When you have a godless society, where women are preached to whore away and not to marry, abortion is tolerated, men are shunned down at every turn, gays can show filth like scat and fisting on youtube, pedophiles can preach in the defense of their practices, furry abomination is allowed...

How the hell are you going to have any traditional anything?

All you are going to have is pure hellish nightmare .

>2015
>Asian single mothers in US
>16%
>White single mothers in US
>25%
>Latina single mothers in US
>42%
>Black single mothers in US
>66%
US needs more Asians if it's wants to be saved.

You have to go to where they are still around (and growing.) Holmes county, ohio is the first county in the us to be majoritarily amish in the agegroup of 5 and under. The amish are growing exponentially and even the ones who leave the church (which is rarely) end up being conservative with big families. The holmes county area and all of the counties surrounding it appear on a map of "second most spoken languages" in the us on a county by county basis as a blue splotch of german in an otherwise red map of spanish. The amish population doubles every twenty years now, and they have on average 6 to 8 kids. The state that has the biggest amish population as a proportion of their population is indiana, and ohio has the largest amish population.

Would you rather raise your daughter in a county that was guarenteed to be white in the future or black and hispanic?

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That's hard, you can't really develop a grass roots movement when the kikes have control of the media and education.

If you're coming from the perspective that ignorance is bliss then yeah that's valid, but that's never going to happen today, since we've had the internet, you'd have to completely get rid of the internet or come up with some way to wipe people's memories or something, that's the only way you could get that to work now

Just to point out. SOB, HECTOR, and SCOTT where some of the most PRO USA people I have ever known. Despite their skin color. They used to raid NAMBLA meetings and beet the shit out of everyone there.

I didn't say anything about getting that back today. I'm just saying things were different then and people had more a sense of purpose and belonging. That's my point.