Pet Owners are Retarded

The way I see it, there are only two possible positions one can take:
>animals are below humans, and should be treated as tools / food:
This is my position.
>animals are equal to humans, and should be treated as friends:
This is the position on PETA, vegans and other people who do not believe in eating animals or harming them at all.

What doesn't make sense is the positions that most people seem to take:
>only some animals are equal to humans
But what decides exactly which animals are equal is extremely arbitrary, such as how cute the animal looks.
>animals are below humans as long as I don't see it
These people don't mind eating meat or using animal products but become the biggest animal rights activists when they see a dog uncomfortable in a car.

If you own pets you must also be a vegan otherwise you are engaging in huge mental gymnastics to the point of being mentally retarded.

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Animals by all universal definitions aren't equal to humans, either biologically, mentally, ethicaly or whatever comparison you might want to come up with.
We only use animals for our own interests, and even cute animals just activate our inherent compassion sense we feel for each other, but the brain finds it harder to tell the difference sometimes

I own tons of pets and yes they are tools.

My chinchillas provide a small animal I can cuddle and care for, ensuring I don't become too idle while providing some beneficial emotion stimulus.

My fish tank provides a soothing image for me, while allowing me to work in water that also allows me to relax. It provides a small amount of beneficial emotional stimulus.

My cats hunt mice, cuddle, are cute, and provide beneficial emotional stimulus.

I want a dog to guard my house, cuddle, be cute, and provide beneficial emotional stimulus.

I want a handful of reptiles, amphibians, insects, arachnids, crustaceans, birds, and rodents to provide study material that also helps me live on the land (and chickens, which do provide food, same with crickets/mealworms/dubia roaches/etc.)

I get what you're saying, but I don't think your leaf brain has thought it all the way through.

Not all tools are hammers, I mean what else is a pillow but a tool that helps you fall to sleep quicker?
Don't call pet owners retarded when you yourself can't think beyond photosynthesis.

>Flag

Fuck you Leaf you deserve to be hanged.

Or you could, you know, consider animals to be below humans but still own one as a pet without any greater purpose.

>t. chink or muslim

Only niggers, sand niggers, and zipperheads hate animals. By your flag im guessing you're a dune coon so at least you must have a soft spot for goats Abdul.

>The way I see it, there are only two possible positions one can take:

18 year-old-tryhard who's starting to insert himself into the ways of adult society: the post

>leaf
>the way I see it...
Your opinion is invalid Chang

this is how psychopaths and serial killers start out. if you are unable to feel compassion for animals, theres something seriously wrong with you, besides the fact that youre a leaf

>animals are equal to humans, and should be treated as friends
That is not the position of PETA.

But thanks for spreading misinformation. I appreciate it, I really do. The more people on Sup Forums are misinformed/uneducated the funnier the threads are.
Keep up the good work, user!

Do you feel compassion for animals? If so then why do let millions of them be slaughtered every day and support this process by buying its by products? If you support mass killings of beings you are compassionate to then you show far more signs of being a psychopath then vice versa...
>45% white
>calling out others for not being white
lel
lmao I can see why Brazilians are for supporting animal rights considering they are subhumans as well

A creature you have a relationship has more value than if you don't. Why is that difficult to grasp?

especially cat owners. It literally turns you into a crazy liberal. Pic related.

what is the position of PETA then? I just checked their website and thats literally what it says

>ad hominem attacks
I'm winning an argument with anonymous posters on the internet, mom! Come look!

If you have a dog, you can not eat a cow.

Welcome to Leaflogic 101!

Lol humans are animals you retard

We have only the slightest edge over many of them, and even the ones we eat are more like us than we'd like to admit. Chickens and cows have feelings and lived just like we do, all that means is we should treat them decent before they're slaughtered.. it doesn't mean we shouldn't eat them, because one day we'll see that plants have a sort of intelligence as well.

Take the shaman pill and realize the dichotomy proposed by the OP is bullshit and the truth is far more complex.

Are you autistic, OP? Serious question, you actually seem like you have Aspergers.

I'm cute, yank. Would you cuddle me?

Your "only two options" premise only works if you assume that all animals and all humans are on the same level.

For instance, if you, me, and my pet were in a plane, and the plane was overloaded and needed to drop weight, I would push you out, due to the hierarchy of usefulness to me.

>Me
>Animals
>Canadians

Humans are animals

My dog is fun to play with and barks when strangers approach my house.

And in an emergency, he is food.

So if a white slave owner loved and was married to a black women it wouldn't be hypocritical if he still beat and killed his other black slaves?
Lets take a look at your original post: . Unfortunately, there isn't actually any argument in there at all!! It appears to be simply an ad hominem attack!
So why tf you crying when I responded to your ad homs with ad homs? lmao

Hope that proxy isn't fooling anyone

Go back to /bant/ with this aspbergers armchair philosophy.

Isn't /lgbt/ supposed to be the leaf containment board anyway?

the idea that all humans are above all animals is flawed, dogs are much more useful than niggers. If we got rid of niggers society would be better, but if we got rid of dogs society would be worse.

This is 100% objective and can't be refuted

Didn't your country just legalize fucking animals? Explain that one in relation to your theory.

You and your ilk will be wiped off the map. Im shocked hiro hasn't went through with the leaf rangeban yet. There is talks of it. Day of the rake is coming regardless faggot

Name 3 ways you have contributed more to society than the supposed useless nigger that works in the office beside me (software dev).
How does that have relation to me theory?

You missed one.

>animals are more perfect than humans as they can survive in nature. humans are stupid children making a mess of everything.

Oh no that's not true niggers would be useful if they were slaves again.

>either they are food or they are human
only niggers deal in absolutes

What is it like to actually have autism?

>live next to a creek
>have a that kills mice for me
>one day disappears
*Welp* I'm guessing a snake got her.

because i dont have an emotional connection to those animals you autistic little shit. jesus christ how dense are you?

I eat animals but not all the time. There are health benefits to not eating meat everyday faggot

Obi Wan is a Sith Lord?

Nigger.

so thats were the big macs come from, shhhiiieeet.

Fake Mews

how is it hypocritical to fuck a woman and at the same time beat a slave? The two aren't even remotely connected.

A woman is made for fucking. A slave for enslaving. They are both being used for their purpose in that scenario so I don't see the problem?

What's your definition of an animal though OP? Intelligence? Self-awareness? Animal is not species, it is simply a category of life. Some animals are far more intelligent than other animals and can even be more intelligent than stupid humans are. If an animal like a dolphin or a gorilla has very high intelligence relative to a chicken or a fish, and are capable of forming their own societies complete with cultural rituals within nature, using tools and communicating etc, I see a very big difference between eating a chicken and a gorilla, or between eating a dolphin and a salmon.

go to college you fuck

What is
>capacity to suffer
>rarity
>rights
>artificial versus natural
>forgeries


Yes some people are hypocrites in regards to animals.

fucking leafs

>implying mammals aren't superior
ISHYGDDT

MAMMAL SOCIALIST PARTY NOW

Oh fuck off faggot dogs make great companions. I have a shephard and a cane corso iv raised since birth. Very loyal and protective dogs. Very well behaved and trained. Im not a vegan i just have a bond with my dogs. Think of it as a pack leader.
Besides you cant compare wild animals with domestic.

See Is it not hypocritical to have an emotional connection to something you regularly mistreat?
Wow you must slay pussy with that attitude. Ok so for example if you were one of the first American settlers would it be hypocritical for you to be friends with a native and at the same time go around genocide all his people?
Definition of animal: not human
Also pigs are some of the most intelligent animals in the world (dogs and cats are actually quite dumb compared to most animals) and yet that doesn't stop you from eating them.

dont let that Canadian faggot talk shit, hes very likely not Canadian hes probably some paki immigrant or HAPA angry kid.

Would you eat a dog? If not what is the difference morally between eating a dog and a pig for example?

No i wont eat a dog because i dont care to taste it. Iv eaten pig and it tastes good. We used to have a mini pig as a pet but it got bigger than it was supposed to. I dont see your point?

>Wow you must slay pussy with that attitude. Ok so for example if you were one of the first American settlers would it be hypocritical for you to be friends with a native and at the same time go around genocide all his people?

So all native americans were the same and dindu nuffins who didn't deserve death and to be overthrown? That's some cool revisionist history there friend, where'd you get it?

>If you kill a bunch of rabid dogs isn't it hypocritical to also befriend nice dogs?

Logic is not your friend

Or you could take the non-retard position, not every animal is the same.

We, as animals, are on top of the Earth food chain and therefore get to decide which species are pets, which are food, which are pests to be exterminated.

>hurr you must be as extreme on one option, it gets easy for my retarded brain to disgrace you
>all middle grounds are forbidenm, because I'm too handicaped to discuss it
John the Apostle please go

> a leaf
> dumb as shit opinion
nothing new

How about YOU go to college, stupid burger.

Its very clear OP is giving his commentary on the west's blind love for dogs and hatred for other cultures practice of eating dog/cats.

Muh "capacity" to suffer doesn't solve a SINGLE issue the op raises, even if you are a retard such as yourself who misses the entire point of the post. Newsflash retard. The cow your burger came had and equal, if not greater capacity for suffering compared to the poor little doge you condemn asians for eating.

You see how stupid you are?

>Rarity
God you're an idiot.

You completely missed the point op was making. Its like you're an oblivious moron. Hes talking about logical consistency. To be so shocked and angered by the treatment of dogs but not bat an eyelash for the BILLIONS of farm animals that are treated like utter useless shit and then have their heads bashed in with a hammer so that you can eat, all while judging the gooks for eating dogs.

Do you get it now you fucking idiot?

Holy shit you are dense dude. You don't understand the concept of metaphors or thought experiments at all lmao...
>If you kill a bunch of rabid dogs isn't it hypocritical to also befriend nice dogs?
The premise is invalid here. Animals you eat are not actively trying to harm and would be just as friendly and good pets as dogs. In fact many farmers have pigs as pets. The question is this:
>Is it morally valid to kill animals and at the same time treat them as companions?
The answer is no until you provide a valid distinction between pets and food. I am trying to use metaphors since I have a feeling you won't understand it otherwise lel
Middle ground is valid as long as you define it properly instead of swinging back and forth depending on your emotional state, (eg. saying what kind of nigger would kill/torture animals while eating a steak).

this. at least one american isn't actually pants-on-head retarded

It's not black and white, you can respect animals without thinking they're equal to humans or something. People individually can't stop the machinations of factory farming and animal cruelty and all that, so might as well just eat the meat that's going to be on the shelves of the supermarket anyway regardless of your existence

cows are large animals capable of being harvested and raised en masse for consumption. They also happen to be complacent, stupid animals, and taste good with some A1
Dogs do not taste good, like to play fetch, and are enjoyable to have around.
That's all the distinction I need in order to treat one as a food item and the other as a pet.
Fuck off with your false sense of morality.

>The more people on Sup Forums are misinformed/uneducated the funnier the threads are.
I like you

You've never tasted dog.
You are stupid, therefore we should eat you.

Consider pigs as an counterexample:
They are roughly the same dimensions as dogs and would produce the same amount of meat as dogs if dogs were fed the same drugs as them. Pigs as significantly more intelligent and are just as enjoyable to have around as dogs since people have them as pets all the time.
So why aren't you eating dogs and keeping pigs as pets? (inb4 dogs don't taste as good; you have never eaten a dog and the fact that other cultures eat them proves your point invalid).

Dogs are a white man's best friend

Dogs were traditionally used for hunting, herding and guarding, pigs weren't

by that logic vegans shoudent use hand sanitizer or use pesticides

Thats okay user you wouldnt understand because you never had anything or anyone love you and you never unconditionally loved back. Its not like a dog never waited 20 years at a train station for its dead owner. An animal dying to protect their human never happened. They never dragged a unconcious child out of a house fire and ended up with missing ears and blind in one eye from it and attacking fire fighters who tried to come near the girl.

Animals dont have feelings. Theyre just tools. Your mother must be very proud raising someone like you.

I agree with you... but I really like eating meat. Out of all of the animals, cows, chickens, turkeys and pigs seem like the lesser of evils to eat.

It's called culture you fucking leaf.

Yes, there are hypocrisies but so what? It's tradition, it's our culture, and it's not going away.

>fat disgusting oinker that shits and rolls around in mud all day is just as valid a pet as a dog who was undergone hundreds of years of selective breeding for specific traits of loyalty, kinship, athleticism, and fun-loving

yeah, you're retarded.

Do you know what dogs taste like then? I assume you are asserting that they do taste good? Oh you're not? Then you haven't made an argument.

I had a mini pig. First off you have to make sure they stay the right size or its alot to keep up with. I agree they are smart but they are still filthier and take more care than a dog. Dogs are pets instead of pigs because they are cleaner and more pleaseant to look at. Also a pig isnt going to defend or hunt.

The rain was pouring down as these sad 'animal rights activists' were holding a demonstration outside a poultry abattoir which only butchers old hens who can't lay eggs anymore. They stand there, with their confused signs in what can only be described as 'the rain.' Noone gave a shit. The photographer didn't even bother to step out of the car to take the photo. It rained. Eventually, they went home, soaking wet and cold. Nobody cared.

In the centre, we have The Grim Reaper. Flanking him are creatures of undecidable gender. This is what veganism do to you.

I'm not bothered by the idea eating domestic animals like cats, dogs, horses, rabbits, etc. I would be turned off by stray city dwelling cats and dogs though, and obviously my own pets.

>I had a mini pig.
Where did Mr. Oinkers go, user? To the bacon factory?

And? how often do you go hunting or herding with your dog? most dogs today are not even suited for those roles and are genetic abominations for years of aggressive breeding (eg chihuahuas). Face it if you had a pig as a pet since you were a kid you would love it just as much as your dog.
Lmao I have plenty of love in my life. I find it pretty pathetic that some people are so desperate for love that instead of going outside and finding someone they instead have to rely on dumb animals to love them that have no choice otherwise like some sort of cat ladies lmao
Being a hypocrite means that some of your views are not logically valid and your whole mindset is not philosophically sound. Personally I would find it very disconcerting knowing that my entire personality and convictions are based on a logical fallacy but I guess it doesn't really bother people who don't think to much

>Dogs do not taste good
From what I understand, the dogs that are eaten taste good, because they're raised to be eaten like other livestock while you're making the idiotic comparison between an animal that is raised to taste good and an animal raised to give you attention and eat cheap, dry food made of the leftover animal parts no living human wants to eat.

There are different types of pigs, and I believe people only use a certain type(maybe pot belly?) as a pet and avoid fat nasty hogs. They're clean when they are domestic just like pet dogs are cleaner than strays. I have little interest in a pet pig, but I don't think the pet ones are as awful as you described.

I saw you post in that thread where the guy admitted he tortured animals for entertainment and you said there was nothing wrong with it. There's countries in Africa for you my friend, where they don't care. Feel free to move there.

>humans do not have the same capacity for love as dogs

You are all your dog has, you control every single aspect of its life.

you'd like for it to be treated as an equal because what you really want is to believe that its love is sentient, that the dog loves you for your amazing personality rather than simply reacting to your control

Your best friend is your slave, what does that say about you and all of your kind.

>Pets are tools
They really aren't. Unless you use your cat or dog for killing vermin, hunting, herding, or guarding places it is literally like a retarded child that will never amount to anything and die before they reach 20.

this

Rationalism and empiricism is incompatible with tradition and religion. I know which I'd rather have.

>asian country
>wants to eat pets

Cut it out, Wong.

>But what decides exactly which animals are equal is extremely arbitrary, such as how cute the animal looks.
>>animals are below humans as long as I don't see it
That's exactly that, it'd a kind of liberal disorder. People would say "I'd rather have a million people die than for some one to step on a puppy's ear." They think they're a good person because they think humans are evil, but they're THE most self centered person, valuing what is akin to a most sophisticated piece of property over people. People have lost their culture, traditions and heritage so they take on ridiculous ideas like animals>greater, emotions>values, bandwagoning>individual thought.

It is tradition to have dogs as pets, because in the past dogs were for hunting and herding. I would rather keep my peoples traditions than live in a sterile world where everything has to have a reason for being and god forbid there's any hypocrisy!!!

You're retarded and using mental gymnastics.

>If you own pets you must also be a vegan otherwise you are engaging in huge mental gymnastics to the point of being mentally retarded.

lmao pigs can be house trained retard. Also your second point is pretty fucked up if you think about it. Imagine this:
>alien species comes to Earth
>decide that they kind of like humans
>capture us
>aggressively breed to the point that most of us have a fuckton of genetic diseases and hereditary problems and are a disgrace to the creature we originally were (cesarsway.com/about-dogs/breeds/have-we-overbred-bulldogs)
>find smaller humans cute so they breed some of us until we are 3 foot tall dwarf adominations
>find large foreheads kinda cute so they breed some of us until our heads are the twice the size of our body and we can't even walk
>don't do this to eat us or use us for anything, they don't even need us for their society to function at all
>only subject us to this because they kind of find us cute and like to keep us as pets
>later go online and post about how much they love us and what they would do if someone harmed us like your retarded ass

ignorance is bliss
sorry, not sorry

as a chinaman you probably don't get white people
one thing that's true is that it's not consistent to not be vegan if you claim to respect animals

You know who else is below humans? Leafs. I wonder why we didn't start eating you yet

>Do you feel compassion for animals?
yes
> If so then why do let millions of them be slaughtered every day and support this process by buying its by products?
i dont "let" millions of animals get slaughtered because i have no say in the matter. im not gonna go Rambo on a farm. and i buy meat because i like meat. i had a pet turtle for a little while. i also killed a turtle and ate it. its what omnivores do.

Stop overthinking.

If animals are below humans, then you can use them however you want. Food, work, or companionship. There's no mental gymnastics involved.

This is the first post I have made today
>id rather parrot what my ancestors did than think for myself and learn from them
truly the most retarded of opinions
You literally have cannibalism in your third world shithole country so im not really surprised to hear this
>i dont "let" millions of animals get slaughtered because i have no say in the matter. im not gonna go Rambo on a farm. and i buy meat because i like meat. i had a pet turtle for a little while. i also killed a turtle and ate it. its what omnivores do.
You do let them be slaughtered by buying meat you retard. Do you think the meat you eat doesn't come from a dead animal?
>its what omnivores do.
Humans are the only omnivores to keep pets so your argument is not valid.
>just turn off your brain bro

>So if a white slave owner loved and was married to a black women it wouldn't be hypocritical if he still beat and killed his other black slaves?
no. thats not hypocritical

most pigs cannot be domesticated and successfully integrated into a household like a dog.

Both dogs, and pigs are tools of the human to be used as we see fit. In fact, all of the animal kingdom is to be used as we see fit because we are the rulers of the planet. That some choose to eat dogs is no concern of mine. I made no assertion that dogs were to be protected and loved at all costs. A society may choose whatever they like to do with a dog as is part of their ethos. You want to live in pakistan and fuck goats be my guest. Just don't do it in America

I trust my forefathers more than I do some random chink who hates tradition and is probably an atheist as well.

The fact that you have a dog doesn't mean that its equal to you Ahmed.

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>Definition of animal: not human
so what are humans, fungi? protozoa?
>Also pigs are some of the most intelligent animals in the world (dogs and cats are actually quite dumb compared to most animals) and yet that doesn't stop you from eating them.
no it doesnt. whats your point?

Animals are our friends that we can eat if we ever get desperate. Id eat my dog if it was life or death