DID YOU QUIT ALREADY ?

The two worst fucking things in our degenerate, decadent society.
>Videogames
>Porn
Yes, this has social and thus political importance and impact.

Did you quit?
When will you quit?
Do you struggle to quit?

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No. But goddammit I'm trying

I indulge in both in excess. Fight me.

Video games own sorry bro my homie came over hitup dat Omega Collection like good times man too bad only 2 player local.

They're literally the epitome of useless eaters

>The two worst fucking things in our degenerate, decadent society.
Not by a long shot.

Those are just methods of escapism. Fix the sick and degenerate culture and society and fewer people will feel the need to resort to escapism. But of course none of that it is going to happen nor is it even possible given how far things have gotten, so we shouldn't waste our time with this discussion. The West is dead.

I'm trying to quit video games but I just can't do it, I go like a day then I relapse, install it back and play a couple of hours.

I just want to quit it so bad but it feels like there's no more entertainment for me if I'm not playing a video game. I think it takes about 8 hours of my life every day and it's such a huge time waste since I'm not accomplishing anything, I don't feel accomplished after playing.

i do whatever the fuck i want with my free time, fuck off

No, I won't quit. There is nothing else for me in this world. There's no good jobs, women are pretty much all whores and the ones that aren't are already in a relationship or wifed up. What do I have to look forward to? Dating some single mom who fucked bad boys in her twenties and is now ready to 'settle down'? Fuck that noise.

This civilization is going to collapse, who cares what we do between then and now. I've got a .44 magnum retirement plan when it finally does.

>Not by a long shot.
They are the most unobstrusive things manipulating us. They are everywhere and around 24/7. They constantly poison us with small but steady doses.

>Fix the sick and degenerate culture
>But of course none of that it is going to happen
Which is why everyone needs a personal solution in his life.

I have the same issue with porn.
Video games - no. I quit for half a year now. I went back to play some GTA yesterday and it was fun. Tempting fun. But it seemed like such a waste of time that it had a bitter after-taste and at the end I didn't enjoy it. I think I'm cured of the video game BS.

But porn. Shit.

How'd you quit video games? Describe the process for me

>I don't feel accomplished after playing.
you don't have to, games are a way to blow some steam, relax or compete
personally i can not play single player games, i have to play against other people but you won't feel accomplished after playing i only feel accomplished after a day of hard work

Trust me in the future as you get older and if life does not go your way you will look backs and wish you still had anything you were so intrested/passionate in and wish you still had the free time. If you enjoy it then just do it, just don't let it negatively effect other important parts of your life.

No, why would I? Those things are just as meaningless as all the other shit most people do. They either stare at the tv or spam instagram with their faces.

>yes
>almost

I only play Touhou games

Adulting is knowing things to be degenerate, doing them anyway, and understanding the vastly unknown concept of moderation.

you failed to explain why i should quit

why do my hobbies have to fall in line with your expectations for society?

Because degeneracy obviously.

I started with reducing the amount of video game genres I played. I used to play action games, RPGs - just about everything. I picked the few genres that combined two elements as equally as possible: fun & no waste of time.
RPGs were fun. But with their massive amount of grinding, role-playing and so on, they were a waste of time. Online FPSs were a small waste of time, but I didn't enjoy them as much. For me GTA was the perfect combo so I just played that. It was already a reduction of play time from 6 to 3 hours a day.

I also stopped reading video game news and buying new games. I would then proceed to actively reduce play time to 2 hours. After one month I just got bored. It simply worked for me.

The thing is, when you are used to something and you quit it, you feel like you're missing out on something. But that's not true. I for example never watched movies. Hell, I have no idea what's running in theatres right now. Does it bother me? No. Same with video games. I just don't care about them anymore. I recently started refreshing my knowledge about them, I know what new games are being released and so on. But I have no interest in checking them out. So it worked for me.

>Adulting is knowing things to be degenerate, doing them anyway, and understanding the vastly unknown concept of moderation.
This.

Well, if you'll quit VGs and porns, don't replace them with other crap.
Workout, read books, ...

If you don't think video games and porn are degenerate, that's none of my business. Why are you here then?
It's like fat acceptance. If you enjoy being fat, I don't care. Have fun.

>why do my hobbies have to fall in line with your expectations for society?
Fucking goon, back to >>>plebbit

only play overwatch when I have free time

I stopped playing video games and watching porn and now I just lurk pol all day and call people stupid niggers on twitter. Still better than faggot ass video games and porn tho

I think muslims and jews are worse than porn and videogames.

>I'd never trade the years of 2004-2008 I had on WoW for anything.
kys

After watching that Bethesda conference, I might start looking into reading. Everything about it was terrible, besides Wolfenstein, but only because of how ridiculous of a premise it is what with the blaxploitation caricature and all.
Also, it's just a fun little shooter you can turn your brain off to.

I read more books by 25 than an average person does in his or her whole life. And it didn't really have a positive impact on my life because people only care how charming you are, not how smart you are. Actually, it only made me see how utterly shit people are. I get 30 minutes of physical activity a day. I go to work, come home exhausted and just fuck around with vidya.

An adult can play video games and watch porn in moderation.

Video games degenerate?

For me degenerate.. its books like da vinci code , all books are degenerate

makes you live in fantasy and its a form of escaping from reality

Both. LSD helped a lot. No struggle.

kek

>Porn has always existed
The kind of porn the industry makes these days is far more degenerate and revolting. With the internet, 10 year olds watch hardcore porn. Libtards like you will defend this.

>Men will always always always masturbate.
Nothing wrong with that.

>gaming is fun
>liberal bullshit
HAHAHA fucking retard goon.

>I'd never trade the years of 2004-2008 I had on WoW for anything
I see you already deleted your post, fag.

>all books are degenerate
>da vinci code
LMAO, illiterate, uncultured prick.

How does this even happen.

I love video games, I used to think I played quiet a bit, but honestly I don't even play every week.

Like nigga modern video games are like 8 hours long are you just playing old Sega jrpgs or what?

>tfw I buy videogames but dont even play them.

Alright OP, I'll take you seriously.

>Did you quit?
Why would I quit the only thing that makes life bearable? I don't get along with anyone. The pay is substandard. I'm not going anywhere in life. I'm not proud to be American. America is going down the drain.
Why would I quit?

I play video games and fap because I have nothing else in my life. No family, no gf, no nothing. I'm a 26 year old virgin. Being white is a handicap in modern America.

The thing is I love 'good' videogames. I just can't be arsed playing games much anymore. There are no new mechanics, no new gernes. Everything feels dated & grindy.

Learn some self control and moderation and stop thinking you can just cold turkey your way through life. Sort yourself out.

When young and your hormones kick in, it throws you for a loop. We get it. You want to fuck and fap 24/7. It's natural. Moderate it and see beyond it. Don't let it become a habit. As you get older and your hormones settle, you really wont be so prone to addiction for such things. Once you become an adult and start taking on responsibilities, you wont have time to wonder about what you don't self control over. You'll be too busy.

No stop posting this shit, it's a dead give away that you're an adolescent. No one reflects on this shit in college/+21 years old. Get a job. Get some responsibilities and you'll find you dont have time to dwell on such bullshit 24/7.

>all books are degenerate
>da vinci code
LMAO, illiterate, uncultured prick.


and you are a pseudo intellectual scum

there is a video game about da vinci code so fuck you pedantic intellectual shitlord
its clear you know nothing about inteligence when you only use you ego filthy human

>you failed to explain why i should quit
Because they are non productive and doesn't give you long term satisfaction.

The best game is real life, its a huge mmorpg sandbox with really intricate character development. You can play it as one of those autistic german work simulator games, an fps, a building game, a fps, adventure game etc. The graphics are top tier, the skybox is huge, the server almost never crashes or resets and unlike the mmorpg you play on the computer people will actually play this game in 10 years so all the time you sink into character development right now will still matter in a decade.

Best way to quit gaming was to install Fallout 4 for me.

Barely playing it.

I haven't quit but I play a lot less. A good videogame can, indeed, be "art" as in a representation of reality with things to say that reflect the world (The Witcher 3 comes to mind; it deals with cultural displacement and military occupation).

I think anyone should keep their media consumption at a moderate level, and try to consume things that have value.

These are far from being the worst thing in our society
>fundamental religion
>complete dismissal of arguments based on "you support trump" or "fuck off shill"
>the societal impacts of your sexuality and preferences (it doesn't matter, no one cares)
>the overblown media outlet that spins any story it wants regardless of truth.
>the cult like followings of certain individuals like politicians and political commentators
>the rejection of ones own importance in a country as a citizen by reduction of their political view (e.g. who cares, at least our party is in power)
>complete lack of principle and overflowing hypocracy
>people blaming the system for their own faults.

Yeah, it's not like racemixing or hookup culture are bad or anything. BUT FUCK VIDYA

>you'll find you dont have time to dwell on such bullshit 24/7.
Eh, people don't understand how fucked up work is. And they still think they'll be able to work and read philosophy every day and discuss it with people online. Most of the time you're too tired to fap.

What's gonna give you long term satisfaction? Lifting weights? Watching Netflix? Shitposting on the internet? Fucking sluts? Most of the stuff humans do bores them eventually, but if someone finds that one thing that keeps him going after work it's worth keeping it. Once you earn enough money to buy food and pay rent, you're golden. If you wanna work 12 hour days so you can have your perfect wife or whatever, knock yourself out.

I liked Witcher 3. 100+ hours, but besides that one game I've just been getting bored so eaisly.
One of the main goals off GG was to carsh the industry and flush the shitty games, talent & developers down the toilet.
That didn't occur and the industry is a bloated shit filled rotting corpse as a result.

start engaging in a martial art

How are video games and porn degenerate?
What is inherent in them that they are damaging to society?

I'm failing to see how you can say this, but give books, TV, plays, movies, actual sex, bug chasing, homosexuality, beastiality, pedophilia, and all the rest a pass.

Because ALL of those things existed before porn and video games, they they aren't the causes of them.

Please, elaborate your outrageous claim and provide examples for your conclusions.

What does this blabbering nonsense even mean?
If you say all books are degenerate because Da Vinci code is crap, you clearly know nothing of literature.

Nice try, fag.
Your post is so void of meaning, it's pretty amazing.

Beyond all things, I feel like people have forgotten what it's like to think and have different views, you couldn't last 3 seconds on here without someone calling you a cuck for not being a white nationalist.

The world is full of different ideas, people need to learn how to appreciate different ways of thinking.

Porn is easy

But there are certain videogames that I would say are actually good for you to play. Grand strategy games and RTS. Along with things like Darksouls to instill a mindset of perseverance and self reliance.

If it aint made by a slav or jap don't touch it.

nah, video games are fun.

Are you aware you can play games on the internet now?

I cant give up vidya 100% because that means admitting the medium itself is worthless. (ITS NOT).
Its just that for every Witcher 3 there are 10,000 piece of shit games that degrade everyone who wastes time making or playing them.

I only play word and number games so fuck you.

alright so i never really got into vidya
i only really played a few games
and i didnt jack off in the morning like i normally do, so i decided to no-fap til july
how have you been doing?

I'm almost free of video games but that's because that they don't provide much pleasure anymore, when I play it's just to pass the time which is a horrible way to play. I'm still looking for hobbies but now I'm going for bike rides much more often, enough to justify spending a few hundred bucks on a decent bicycle. Porn though I'm fucked, sometimes I fap 15 times a day, it's ridiculous. Won't be able to quit that one.

>Yes, this has social and thus political importance and impact.

please explain in detail for the rest of the memeboys in this thread

play csgo constantly among other games and fap at least twice a day
no want to stop

Dude porn fucks your mind up way, way worse than a 10-15 hours per week fantsy or si-fi game.

On no fap day 2

This right here. I was a book worm growing up and that's probably what ruined my life (prevented me from developing social skills as a child). When I quit video games all I do is watch TV all day. Fuck that. I'd rather play video games.

Learn to control your urges and you can control your mind. Control your mind and control the world around you.

Porn makes you like things that disguist you subconciously

I play vidya every now and again, and I quit porn about a year ago and haven't gone back.

>Against porn
I'm onboard with that.

>Against games
Okay, now you're being a faggot, gas yourself.

No, keep it up, Paki!

Your mistake is you read shitty books.

Who reads fiction?
What is this shit?

Read history books. Philosophy. Nonfiction. Things that actually matter.
But what can you do, this is a thread where people cite The Da Vinci code as "book".

>"no im too weak of a human being and i need my false sense of achievement and instant gratification hedonism"

this, with my newfound testosterone i was able to spot out a vulnerable female up to 1 kilometer away

>What's gonna give you long term satisfaction?
Something worthwhile that gives you unique memories, produces something tangible or just improves your situation over time. So hiking, mastering a craft, growing your own food, fixing a car, building something.
>Lifting weights?
If you like the idea of being fit, sure. But i would rather combine my physical training with something more meaningful then just lifting shit up and putting it down. Like gathering and splitting wood, working in your garden, digging a huge hole in your backyard and making a swimmingpool or just building something huge like pic related.

But if you don't some acres of your own land to work then lifting weights is a good idea.


>Watching Netflix? Shitposting on the internet? Fucking sluts?
No

>Most of the stuff humans do bores them eventually
So do something else

What will you offer to people indulging in it instead? Nothing i suppose, so how you even dare to tell them what to do?

Not the guy you are replying to but

>gives you unique memories
I have tons of fond memories from World of Warcraft.
>produces something tangible
You mean like my 70 hour per week job?
>growing your own food
My garden proves this is not mutually exclusive to gaming

I also fish, kayak, shoot, and play tabletop nerd games with a growing group of friends. Video games don't prevent me from doing any of these things.

You're pretty much saying that you shouldn't bother to dream and stride toward the future of things to come, but rather focus on the past and use it to guide yourself, rather than innovating new technology into better inventions that serve to ease suffering and improve living, that's not very intelligent, you need to focus on both past mistakes and the dreams of a better future, one in which we have reached the final frontier, whilst remembering the history that got us there.

Neither he or I said we read fiction. The only fiction I read was Lord of the rings and a few Harry Potter books when I was a teen. If you read a certain amount of psychology and philosophy you see life and people for what they are and it's not pretty.

I do tangible things when I'm at work. Walking around a hill in circles is not more meaningful than vidya. Why should I grow food if I can buy it with money I earn? I used to build shit from wood when I was a kid, shit was cash, but I grew out of it. Building that castle in the pic is just a massive waste of time and resources, much worse than firing up a video game. Every person finds some autistic thing to sperg about and one person's thing is not more valuable or meaningful than the other person's thing.

Forming memories with people you care about is all well and good. Sadly, every woman I ever cared about didn't even want to look at me. My family just gives me more problems than satisfaction.

fuck off commie

>quit video games
lol why?

I like to kickback with some video games from time to time. Maybe a few hours every couple days.

It's just like any other kind of relaxing activity, you can just chill and forget the bullshit for awhile.

>pic related. Playing this shitty NFS atm

Porn is going okay right now, just need to make sure I don't cave in and watch some. Actually didn't like games anymore, but severance: blade of darkness has me hooked.

I've no issues with video games as they haven't impeded my life at all. I remain healthy and social with a good balance. I use games as a form of recreation, a way to relax rather than staring at my TV for a few hours watching a show or movie.

>I do tangible things when I'm at work.
Do something for yourself.
>Walking around a hill in circles is not more meaningful than vidya
The world is cooler then any video game and its good for your health.

>Why should I grow food if I can buy it with money I earn?
Because its good for you.

>I used to build shit from wood when I was a kid, shit was cash, but I grew out of it.
Because you never got any good of it. Try making something a bit more meaningful then the butter knife you made as a kid. Sitting down and eating dinner at a solid oak table you built with your own two hands from a tree that you sourced yourself is infinitely more satisfying then just buying a table at the store.

>Building that castle in the pic is just a massive waste of time and resources, much worse than firing up a video game.
>building something huge that will stand and confound people for millennium is a waste of time and worse then fucking around around an artificial world that some one else built for you.
KYS

>Sadly, every woman I ever cared about didn't even want to look at me
Understandable

>Because they are non productive
Let me explain you one simple thing faggot. You will die in the end. So there is only one purpose of being productive - to pass what you did to your children after you die, except that there is literally no purpose to spend time at anything except hedonism.
And here we get to the point - right now there are incomparably less females fitting to have children with than there are men who want them. Most of these men will never have offspring no matter how hard they try, because there is merely not enough females for everyone. So if they contribute anything to society that discarded them, they basically work for other men offspring like gelded slaves, they are no different from some progressive cuck raising his wife's son. Most of them still have enough dignity not to do that, and here you come, and demanding them to be your gelded slaves.

>this entire fucking thread

Porn yes, Games never.... fuck off degenerate.. saying i should quit the only things making me sane in todays world.

^this

Why are you starting to talk like a nigger? Did I insult you or attack you?

Look, I don't give a fuck about oak tables and growing tomatoes. I don't give a fuck about some stupid castle some autist built. I also don't give a fuck about some guy who's all about doing super duper stuff in life, but currently he's telling people to kill themselves on the internet. And apparently, because I don't care about oak tables, women won't look at me. Thanks for solving all the problems in my life dude.

Fuck that. Even if I get a girlfriend, I'm still fapping to hentai in secret. Don't care.

>I have tons of fond memories from World of Warcraft.
I said unique memories, walking around and exploring the same small man made world and doing the same quest as millions of other people is hardly unique. There are places on earth right now where humans have never set their foot, and you choose to explore a limited and small artificial world created by other people.

>You mean like my 70 hour per week job?
Depends on what you work as

>My garden proves this is not mutually exclusive to gaming
>I also fish, kayak, shoot, and play tabletop nerd games with a growing group of friends. Video games don't prevent me from doing any of these things.
Good for you make.

I will agree that video games is at least better then watching movies or series. As long you don't only do that.

Haven't played vidya in a while, trying to quit lemon squeezing, this is my greatest battle.

For me you are a pseudo intellectual projecting your emotions to me .

I was comparing books to video games , for me if video games are degenerate so are books .

Books are a hobby like video games...

And you have books that are games...

Oh plus , most of the books are based in fantasy.

I like book btw and i like video games

>They are the most unobstrusive things manipulating us. They are everywhere and around 24/7. They constantly poison us with small but steady doses.

It's funny, Achmed, considering how Sup Forums is around ten times more "poisoning" than video-games or porn. Don't even try to prove me wrong since you fucking ca't.

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Games yes
Porn no

Well, do you??

Wait you dont understand wiminz will only fuck you if you start making tables... duuuude better start working on that table

news flash most of books written are fictions and fantasy books ....

It's funny cause now you are actually separating what is good or not in overall literature

This is a little late but...
Why would I want to invite screeching turbo autists into my relaxation time?

>So there is only one purpose of being productive - to pass what you did to your children after you die
Sounds like a good reason.
>except that there is literally no purpose to spend time at anything except hedonism.
What? That doesn't make any sense.

>So if they contribute anything to society that discarded them, they basically work for other men offspring like gelded slaves
Who said anything about contributing to society? Fuck that. Build something cool for you and your family, pay as little in taxes as possible to society.

Enjoy your video games mate, i am sure you will find a woman that will be very impressed by your leet skills and your 30 min of training a day body.

>implying video games aren't a form of escapism

Vidya is boring af to me now.

Porn is still nice tho.

Oh shit me too.

So you can beat them up.

so are books, sports, and any type of mind dissuade

>Who reads fiction?
>What is this shit?
Most highly successful people recommend you read about 50-50 fiction non-fiction btw