/cg/ - Communism General

I'm back.

Go back

Nice.

Another filter to add to my list.

Kill yourself dirty bolshevik, sage

Where?

FPBP

China, cause that's where you belong scumbsg

I don't support bolsheviks. Bolsheviks supported socialism is one country and state ownership of property. I don't.

China is left wing capitalism at this point.

...

Bolsheviks, Trudovik, Trotsky followers, Stalinists, Marxist, Inbred retard, It's all the same pal.

I support a different system than the soviet union. Soon capitalism will collapse worldwide based on its own inherent flaws and an unorganized proletariat revoultion will take place world wide ushering in the proletariat democratic semi-state that withers away into full communism. Socialism is one country can never work.

why don't you kill yourself?

Because soon maybe not in my lifetime but soon the worldwide revoultion will bring about a workers paradise.

Communism is a giant pit of degeneracy and corruption, doesn't matter what name you give it, regardless of what you label yourself, every red should be standing in front of a firing squad

How can their be corruption if there are no centralized leaders? And what exactly is wrong with voluntary "degeneracy" why do you care how they spend their life? It doesn't effect you.

There can't be a civilization with some form of governance, and that governance, or "The party" will form another 1%, another bourgeois, it happened so many times before, the people live in poverty while the party members live in luxury.

Degeneracy affects everyone, maybe not me personally, but the children and people of my nation.

without a form of governance*

>communism
>collectivizing all resources in society
>no centralized leaders
Why is communism always associated with severe delusions and a completely broken perception of reality?

Resources will most likely be collectivized on a local level maybe direct democratic councils or communes. I can't see into the future but I know the proletariat will be the ruling class in one way or another. Probally through direct democracy.

>Degeneracy affects everyone
How?

You are too stupid to understand the problem with that.
So, farmers would own all the food and be able to demand anything they want from society? Oil company workers would essentially get billionaire structures that millions of people invested in? Meanwhile, you get a fucking cash register and burger making tools.

Mises already wrote about almost anything a commie could ever possibly claim to want. Specially about wanting to steal shit at a local level thinking it would make things fairer without realizing the massive capital intensity difference of different industries.

So you are saying that there will be people who govern and organize communities on a local level and to work together efficiently, those small communities need some way to streamline communication and governance.
:hmmm:

Normalizing Degeneracy corrupts the minds of the vulnerable, Degeneracy should never be tolerated and is never okay.

I'm an atheist that is rational and logical, and I hold an unpopular opinion on communism. Is it possible to support global-nationalism as in want the world to be united, so we can further our species?

I honestly do not see what is wrong with communism, it avoids exploitation, prevents religion from growing (all religion is bad, antiquated, etc), gets rid of the chains of tradition and culture (come on, this always slows us down, culture is moronic as it is a waste of resources for a group of people that want everything to look nice). I personally believe that the whole world should embrace modernism, as it's the most efficient, and this could be our official architectural style for global-nationalism. Pride for our earth and out species. Also, communism is based on acience, not emotion, so therefore it's logical and rational. The only barrier we need to dissolve is religion, as it stops us from progressing towards communism. Religion is just like a virus. Everyone should just follow common sense.

>Resources will most likely be collectivized on a local level maybe direct democratic councils or communes
What's more likely, is that you cannot have communes monopolizing a valuable resource against 50 million people; so you'll elect a totalitarian dictator to oversee everything. Just like in the previous 500 times marxists became the majority on a nation.

And by "monopolizing" I mean, real unconditional monopoly, not anything we see in the free market. Being able to arbitrarily cut the flow of that resource at will.

>USSR fell
>Only 3 communist states exist anymore
>Millions are starved to death in China
>North Koreans are sent to gulags for not praising the name of the leader
BUT IT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM!

Degeneracy is an opinion.

That was socialism.

May I suggest taking these pill?

Science isn't delusional. I'm surprised that you don't hate capitalism because it's leaders are literally emotional idiots that follow religion.

In some instances, maybe, but for other things, it absolutely isn't

Muslim believe that music with instruments is degenerate

I think that's fucking retarded

But I think the majority of this board can agree with me that things like the "Slutwalk" or the "Gay pride parade" are the definition of degenerate.

Here how I would like it to work but because I'm not the one deciding how the system is set up the proletariat is this is probally now how it would work. The state would be some kind of direct democracy where the proletariat would be the ruling class. Bueracrats are replaced by ellected workers who can also be reaclled at any time by a vote. Workers are paid based on supply and demand calcualted by how much of a product is wanted (perhaps a survey or a vote?) and how much of a product can be made at the current point in time. Things are priced in the same way. The state only serves the purpose of figuring this out not ruling over the people of enforcing laws very much. The proletariat would organize and handle that themselves in some way.

Communism can only occur world wide.

Are we supposed to know who you are, egotistical fuckhead.

No but I think you probally remeber all of those communism general threads a while ago.

Nice double standard. Nothing is degenerate as it is objective. Thank you for proving my point.

No thanks.

Reminder to sage all shit post
written by 19 year old edgy community college teenies who don't want to work for a living

That isn't an actual argument, also communism = science., capitalism =fairy tale religion

>who don't want to work for a living
But labor is a huge part of what it means to be human without working you have hardly any purpose in life.

>It would work this time because democracy
>next time it we will totally make a totalitarian system with a functional open democracy
1. If democracy works, then there's no communism, because people would end up agree that stealing each other's property is bad
2. Usually democracy can't even do that, because it is so damn crony and slow. Democracy only preserves individual freedom out of how inefficient it is at targeting anything. Democracy can't even figure out that the minimum wage is pure nonsense that even if it worked only serves to misallocate workers, let alone being able to allocate all the billions of resources in a modern society.

>Implying I don't think that every other Culture than my own is in some way inferior.

Of course, the meaning of degenerate can change, I'm not trying to be impartial here, It's about what the culture of my own nation has seen as degenerate for a long long time.

Poor fags detected
Saged

If they do decide that communism is bad then the material conditions nessary for communism aren'r ready. Capitalism needs to have totally collapsed and been disproven world wide for communism to work at all.

Most important things will be done on a local level so a large state won't be deciding that stuff.

What?

Religious moron detected.

go pray to your fairy tale wizard fairy sky spaghetti santa daddy

Nice try stormweenie, I have reported this thread.

starve yourself faggot

There in lies your mental retardation
Did your song lyrics teach you that ?
>Anti Communist
>Must be a religious person

No wonder you are fucking poor and crave a state system to take care of your failures in life
you really are a fucking loser

Saged
You really are fucking stupid

Alas making everybody forsake their racial and cultural identity.

kys nigger xd commie fucker

>I can't see into the future

I can, pic related

...

China and NK aren't Communist anymore dumb faggot

I unironically only support Stalinist-style communism. Cucky modern communism, anarcho-communism and syndicalism need to fuck off.