I asked a girl why is it that parents in the US don't pay for kid's tuition

she went berzerk

her education didnt pay off.

college education has outpaced inflation by about 3%, or 6.5-7% annually.

kek, fucking hippies

Wages were driven down by women joining the workforce and now it's basically impossible for a single-earner income to put kids through college, and for many, not even two-earner incomes can manage it.

It works out tho cuz modern college is basically a liberal indoctrination camp

Tuition in the US can be the price of a house and you rarely get return on investment (except in STEM fields or finance). There's so much your parents can do.

My parents didn't pay for my education because why would they? A full grown adult can find their own way through life and if you can't manage that then maybe you aren't mature enough for college in the first place.

Good thing there is a way to get free education: the military. Except I forget that many dont want to risk themselves, they just want the rewards.

What a shame.

problem simply is adolescents are not taught basic economic theory like 'return on investment'
by the time they get to the age where they should go to college they just think of it as high school 2.0
a very small percentage realize it is actually them choosing the door that leads to the rest of their lives.

Tell her you'll say what you want and if she doesn't like it she can sit on your fat cock.

She is a keeper. Always go for girls with strong in group preferences.

Actually, the sad truth is that many college students don't go that route because they can't pass the IQ test to get into the military.

College has nothing to do with maturity. College is a place for networking. Maturity is irrelevant when networking.

>implying its normal to go to ASU and pay 200,000 to get a masters in transborder studies

If you go to community college with Fafsa and some grants you can get a associates like its nothing. You can usually do other programs to get a bachelors through a community college for 1/3 the price of a actual university.

What happened was they where giving student loans out to everybody for everything. Every kid went to a high priced party college and used students loans a useless degree and living on campus. They owe 100k now and they blame successful people older than them. A lot of student loan places started to refuse to give kids loans without a cosigner.

I am 24, there is a bunch of 26-34 year olds with tons of debt working at a burger king with a degree in the arts. Luckily i didn't go straight to college on my way out.

>Falling for the college jew

Just say I Dare. Then what?

Tuition in the US can cost as much as a house in certain cases; meanwhile college in Mexico costs about 15 tamales a year. (25 tamales for a higher class university)

There's naturally a difference between the financial situations.

Student loans exist for a reason; for the worthless idiots that can't get a scholarship or don't have the balls to join the military, they can just go into debt for a few decades (not as bad as it sounds so long as they are fiscally responsible, which, surprise surprise, teenagers are not.)

>didnt your parents teach you not swear

I love how liberals make it seem like asking why is some huge blasphemy.

It's pretty hard to fail the asvab stat wise. Army/Marines will try to waiver you in with a failing score. I knew people who got 30s and got in, in Supply.

A lot of young americans are fat, lazy, and incapable of basic human function so they work for minimum wage, become neet, or if they are lucky mom and dad send them off to a 4 year school to fail out and then become neet.

I blame social media.

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don't military recruiters straight up deceive people with high asvab scores into signing up for high risk jobs?

>you're a horrible person
>why
>SOMEONE ARREST THIS MAN
i'm fucking feeling it

>tuition can cost as much as a house

No it can't. Stop going to a private college if you can't afford it, you retard. State universities cost 10k a year to attend. There's no reason you should rack up huge debts.

I'm also 24. I graduated HS a semester early, I entered the workforce straight out of HS while my parents let my GF & stay at their house until I was 20-21 while we saved money for a house. We moved into my grandparents house after we moved out of my parents to continue to save money while my GF was pregnant and gave birth to our first child. My retired grandparents helped my GF to take care of my child while I was at work. Now 24 and will be buying a house and having our wedding at the end of the year. Yeah, we were only able to do this because of my parents and grandparents but still, college was worthless for us.

what kind of house are you living in, user?
is it your parents?
cause if you can afford a 60k+ house while you're college age then that's pretty fucking impressive

not everyone has the ability to live off daddy and mommy while trying to get a degree; plenty of people have to fend for themselves whilst also trying to get an education.

for a large portion of americans; the choice between taking out a loan for an education or taking out a loan for a cheap house is a very real decision they have to make.

Kek, I'm the wrong person to fuck with on this, user. I worked full time to pay my living expenses while in college and graduated with 14k in debt, which I paid off in 2 years. You lazy, entitled cunts will never make it in the real world.

Racking up 60k in debt because you feel entitled to the (((college experience))) is ridiculous. Get a job that at least pays for your food and housing. You idiots pay 8k a year to rent out a fucking room you're only in for 8 months.

College isn't even necessary, its good for some and pointless for others. If you are management material or want to start a business you don't need college. What do you do for a living?


I joined the Marines after being a NEET faggot for 1-2 years and i'm out now going to school for Criminal Justice. I want to go into DHS or FBI, and might get my law degree later on if i hate working for the government.

>parents are required to pay for their kids higher education
i guess they are supposed to pay their bail and other decisions they make as adults also?

Getting your JD will help with career advancement in both DHS and FBI, if that's the route you want to go. The market is flooded with attorneys right now, keep that in mind if you have to take out significant loans to get your JD.

You'll hate it alright. They'll ban you from Sup Forums. You'll lash out and call them shills and you'll get fired. Then you're gonna be stuck working as a maintenance employee at Walmart. 9.80 and hour till you're ready to get that juicy retirement money. All 50k of it.

no they want people with high ASVAB score in the hi tech positions, but people want what they want so they sign up for 11b(Infantry) to be at the front lines and do the cool shit, not sit in a cubicle with eggheads.

>cost increased exponentially

For all that money you'd think they'd teach her at least a few basic mathematical concepts.

>I asked a girl why is it that parents in the US don't pay for kid's tuition
Why should they?

My experience with not being taught the value of honesty and hard work really put me light years ahead of my competition. No one paid my way except me.

Anyone that cannot pay their own way does not deserve what they get. It is that simple.

>fight for zog cause damage to help banks
>inflation continues to go up people still cant pay for school
>but its alright because you sold your life to the zog machine for some school * risk your life and kill innocents for money user*

I couldn't land a full time job because of the area my college was in (too many social major drop outs had to get jobs in the same area) but I worked two part time jobs while also studying on a scholarship.

I never said that I had taken out a student loan. nor did I say they were a good thing.

The country's education system is fucked.
(Also I agree that the people who pay huge sums of money just to have to smell their dorm mates rotting gym clothes are fucking masochists.)

>dont you dare
>dont you fucking dare
Sounds like you hit a trigger user, maybe dig a little deeper and find out just why shes so touchy.. or dare I say.. emotional.

At first I worked in a wear house but it was part of the union so I got all the Healthcare benefits that came along with it. Than I moved to a crane shop, manufacturing industrial cranes. The business is really stricked, we have a non tolerance policy when it comes to absences and they provide all of our tools. That part is absolute shit but the pay is great and I work with a lot of cool people around my age. They also hired with no training necessary.

>Grown exponentially

Why do beaners always use the word "exponentially"? Do they really know what this word means? Surely if she means that the tuition fee has grown exponentially due to the fact of inflation, then everything has grown exponentially, which defeats the whole point of claiming tuition costs growing exponentially. God damn beaner nigges, do they even logic.

Many parents in the US do pay for tuition, it depends on their ability to pay. Or if they're kikes to take advantage of the student loan program.

The problem is entitled cunts who think the government owes them a subsidized loan so they can study some irrelevant, unmarketable degree. Correlate interest rate subsidies to majors that are in demand and let the rest of the idiots pay market rates for their loans.

I am pretty closeted on my beliefs. I don't use social media, and all online media accounts have a fake name.

The only thing that could come back to me is a youtube account that used to have my name on it that has tons of posts about shit skins and gamergate. I'm pretty safe.

CJ isn't awful, but you'd be better off studying accounting, anything math, or CS. Police departments get tons of CJ majors, but they really need accountants, computer experts, and mathematicians.

Vietnam and student loans screwed it up. People used to only go to college if they needed to for a specific profession, or if they were exceptional academically. Then Vietnam happened and college students were exempted from the draft so everyone went to college. College used to guarantee a good job, but over time since everyone went standards were lowered, and college or some kind of post high school education became necessary for almost any job. Outsourcing, computers, and mechanization didn't help because unskilled labor jobs disappeared. Universities raised prices because of the increased demand, and looser student loan regulations meant more money was available, so the market didn't naturally regulate tuition inflation. Now we're here, over and undereducated simultaneously, and even those of us who can get moderately good jobs are so buried in student debt that we don't even zero until our mid 30's. And grad school is the new college, so for some people it's even later.

I was gonna look into getting a city job working with radio towers before my decision for college. You can make 25 an fucking with towers.

There is some amazing no training needed jobs. You can also work in a copper mine and make 80k a year because its dangerous.

a wear house or a warehouse?

On the one hand, govt. involvement with college loans is driving the prices of tuition up; on the other, fewer people should be going to college because it's oversaturated the market with degrees, thus, devaluing the degrees.

So, high college tuition is a good means of pricing out people, but I think the govt. should get out of subsidizing college.

I feel the 60's with Vietnam and the Civil Rights bullshit is what led to the degenerate country we live in today and the downfall of this once great nation.

It's probably because of social media huh?
All the whiny faggots and attention craved bitches got together and convinced each other of the importance of gender studies.
Now we have a wave of hipster cunts that don't know what 'STEM' means paying ancient hippies hundreds of thousands of daddy's dollars, warping the college market in the process.

As usual, hippies will always find a way to impede the nation's progress.

Wearhouse. I used to do drag shows my nigger.

I have a Cisco mods 1-3, SEC+, NET+, and A+ as well as some other useless Microsoft shit. I also have a secret clearance. I was a cyber network specialist when i was a Marine. I do IT work now, and i really want to do something with some adrenaline to it. I won't ever be happy working with computers. I taught myself C++ to a rough/decent level when i was 15 and never wanted to touch it after that. I did World of Warcraft private server shit.

I just hate it at this point. I picked up a lot of knowledge on electrical shit a long the way too.

Don't you fucking dare user. She serious and shit.

So do stem or finance then

>GT:128
>ST:135
>any job I wanted
>Airborne Infantry option
It's not a meme

Mine did.

Lol @ losers who went into debt, got shitty degrees, and are going to die on welfare.

US is a liberal shithole

And baby boomers are the most self-important and self-serving shitcunts to have ever existed. You only had to sleepwalk through life to be basically handed valuable opportunities that they were a given and they are under the delusion that they all worked hard to get to where they are.

And instead of enriching and strengthening the next generation to establish strong families, they choose to deracinate their own children and kick them out and sell them off to be a cog of zog, waste more resources, consume more, pay some Jew's rent, etc.

Rather than setting up their family, they choose to instead waste all of their wealth on hedonistic end of life holidays and recreation. They aren't even aware that the narrow historical window of opportunity that they used to enrich themselves early in their life had closed decades ago. Boomers continue enriching themselves however by selling this land of opportunity meme to the third world and exploiting the desperation of these people and letting their children have to deal with radical diversity and demographic changes when they are forced to move out somewhere they can afford.

Boomers are literally the worst.

ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

>don't have kids you can't afford em

Yeah no wonder liberals always die alone.

Old school army here. I've went into IT after getting banged up pretty bad years ago. IT manager now, pretty big global team. Do I love it? No. Do I even like it? Rarely. But, a good IT career is a very good means to an end. It allowed me to pursue a few different fields and hobbies. It allowed me to raise a pretty big family. It allows me to work from home 24/7 now. I'm not even a coder, just a pretty skilled UNIX\Linux administrator with management skills I picked up while in service.

So, and this is just my advice, don't throw away what is a great foot in the door of an industry you can find work in anywhere (including from your home). Use it as a means to an end and figure out how to tolerate it.

Let me add to this that I have no college degree and I left school at 15. Which explains how I ended up carrying a rifle for 12 years.

How could her parents not be able to pay her college tuition? 18 years of saving and they can't scrap together 250k?

Bingo. This is something that's usually overlooked. Women entering the workforce increased the supply while the demand stayed the same depressing wages. If they had kept their dumb asses at home where they belong a single earner would still be enough to support a family.

Would you support your mother being a housewife in your youth, and reducing your household income?

>250k tuition

What college do you go to?

College de Mexico 101, take the tortilla, wet the tortilla... roll it out (breaks into rap video).

>GIBS US FREE ENTRANCE INTO THE U.S. RAYSIS. MAKE THE U.S. MEXICO AGAIN!

I suppose tuition was closer to 170k to 200k, but that doesn't include apartment and food. But you have a child for 18 years, you might as well save extra money.

Out of state tuition, UC Berkeley

State university tuition can easily break 20k a year without any housing or additional fees in the USA if you don't have financial aid helping out.

10k is a very low estimate, especially if one takes summer classes as well.

Hong Kong is a separate, better nation state than China.

>Cog of Zog

Fuckin awesome, I think my band just got a new name

Sigapore is a self governed state that can choose to do business as it pleases, and the S. China Sea is international waters.

Spics aren't supposes to be esucated. They're supposed to be spics.

Good memes, friends, but I'm Taiwanese. Regular Chinese people who tow the party line would certainly never post here.

Fucking kek. Inflation turned the concept of money into a ponzi scheme.

actually it has grown exponentially. If it grows by 1% per year that's exponential growth. Exponential growth does not necessarily mean it grows terribly fast (except over the long run, where it does). Anyways it is, more or less, exponential

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this, and not only mention it is already at a memetic amount that doesnt make sense… it is not even a social barrier anymore because the grants and scholarships are not given to talented people in need but for muh fairness

Student debt has grown by 800 billion in the last 15 years it's fucking insane it's way over priced and it's precisely because some fucking liberals thought everyone should have access to money to pay for school

Fucking liberals ruined their own affair with higher education by making it free

>out of state tuition
>adding living expenses into the cost of college

oooh get out user any girl that openly talks about her exes is a red alert.

I paid 20k pounds a year for college
extra 24k for housing
and about 24k more for living expenses

so 68k pounds a year for 5 years.

Graduated with zero debt

This. In my provinces the biggest college costs 4k per year. I pay in 4 years what Americans pay for one year.

Whatever China, you're no fun.

>Chinese people who tow the party line would certainly never post here.
thats where you are wrong my fellow citizen

yes and there would be no need for her to have an income plus she wouldn't need a job and she could supervise her kids.

Children of immigrants do tend to have a rough time if they want further generations to be successful.

The generational cycle of immigration, in the best case scenario, has 1st generation immigrants providing a meager living, and 2nd generation immigrants working through college. Only at a 3rd generation can parents really afford to pay for things like owning and nice house or paying for college.

This girl's father probably broke his back in the fields just to give her the opportunity to live here, which is not something he deserves to be looked down on for.

Between a 529 plan and scholarship it's doable.

A counter-argument is that kids appreciate college only if they pay for it, although if they do well in high school they obviously appreciate something. Not to mention the public universities in European socialist countries where you actually have to major in something real, at least you had to in the past.

because it's good to overwork your nation until they don't know anything about themselves lol

>seperate, better
jeez I wonder why they are doing that well when central chink gov didnt tax them and also subsidized HK local businesses as well as giving HK a monopoly of foreign business conduction for over a decade
kys common corer

>go to four college with four years of dorm fees just to party and get fucked up because i don't care if i live or die
>can't find work in field, didn't even really try
>get sub-minimum wage job
>pay debt back in three years
damn just stop being a retard, shit's not hard
stop buying stupid kike shit

already working on it

Endemic these days, with or without college degrees. And in their spare time, they smoke weed (legal in my state) so they literally don't know who they are.

americans seem to have an aversion to working- and middle-class parents feathering the nest so that their children can have an easier life. they also have a problem with actually having a healthy relationship with their parents at all.

Is her name Carolina and is she from Monterrey?

Thank you I'll take that in. I might go back into it at some point. I have always been good with computers as i stated and i easily have a career if i want one in it. I wanted to get into shooting and some survivalist outdoors stuff. Both can be expensive hobbies from time needed to toys being bought. I want to try to get my 20 year pension and have some fun doing it. Working in investigations is something i find interest in. I like criminology a lot.

They just spew chink propaganda under a Canadian or American flag.
>SLEEPING DRAGON WILL AWAKEN

no, her name is Stephany and she's from Boston

It's a very good school and my parents saved diligently. A married couple can surely save 10k to 20k per year for 18 years

A cultural disease is chasing possessions at the expense of all else. So they spend all of their money on crap instead of saving for their kids' future, and then use the rationalization here

They wasted their money. No school is worth that outside of the Ivy League, and the Ivy League schools have large enough endowments to give free tuition to students who can't afford to attend.

How does that help you get a job? I believe I have gotten all of three out of 10 jobs through the "normal" open application/interview system, all of which were menial. The other 7 were on the recommendation of existing employees or friends.
The purpose of university today is networking and debt. the debt would be completely optional were it not for conservatives desiring to have a way to blackmail their employees into complying with their own exploitation.

I don't think so. I'm very happy with my Berkeley degree. It is not an onerous burden to pay for it, assuming you have a two-parent family who can budget properly.

You also have to be really poor to qualify for the "free" tuition. Obviously, anyone who saves money for 18 years will not qualify for such a "free" tuition.

That was my case, and I still have a close relationship with them, too.

I don't understand the cultural disease of college kids going into massive debt with worthless degrees. And having dysfunctional relationships with their families. It's not that hard to set up a 529 plan, major in something useful, and call your parents once a week. These problems should be the exception not the norm.