Why is Switzerland the safest country with the lowest homicide rates in the west only being surpassed by Iceland while...

Why is Switzerland the safest country with the lowest homicide rates in the west only being surpassed by Iceland while maintaining such incredibly lax gun laws? How do they do it?

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poverty = crime

swiss people are wizards. they also have lower taxes than any western country and yet still better healthcare and social services

It's called free market capitalism. Welfare and other socialist crap allow the poor to stay lazy and thus create gang cultures and single mothers.

>safest country with the lowest homicide rates
Divercity. Or lack of it.

The Swiss are perfectionists in almost every aspect of their lives. One would have the infrastructure and Stateaparatus of them and still one couldn't manage it so well like they do.

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simple, they dont let the fucking niggers in. And if you want a work visa, good luck

I thought ammunition was strictly controlled in Switzerland and the reason for high gun ownership was due to conscription.

Or am I wrong? I really don't know

no niggers

Because there are no niggers there

A lot of people from African origins in Switzerland. Look it up. Also, muslims.

>A lot of people from African origins in Switzerland. Look it up. Also, muslims.
And the communities they live in probably also have slightly higher crime rates, if I were to hazard a guess.

Because military service is mandatory, also most of citizens are used and trained for various weapons at an early age and that doesn't just includes aiming and shooting.

Also our laws are more restrictive than the american ones, you can have a weapon holstered in public space unless you're a cop, security guard or military on duty. You also can't shoot anybody for any reason, even a burglar coming right at you with a knife.

>better healthcare
It's getting worse every year actually, getting more and more expensive with less and less coverage.

>Divercity. Or lack of it.
Cities are full of niggers nippon-sama. Go to Geneva (or any "big" city) and you can play "where is the white person?".

>[...]you can't have a weaponholstered in public space unless you're a cop, security guard or military on duty.*

No you're right. Most men have a Gun or a rifle because of the Militia. It's not usual to have ammunition at home though

...but you can't defend yourself with it? That's a little fucked.

Swiss laws are restrictive only in carrying. While yes, Swiss laws are more restrictive than most states, they are much laxer than California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maryland, DC and Hawaii laws.

If Switzerland was a state the gun laws would be mid-tier. Comoarable to Iowa.

You can have private weapons. In case of a war the soldiers have to go to their dedicated spot and receive ammunition there as far as I know. But I'm sure others in this thread have more knowledge on that matter

non white people = crime

Geneva is a shithole. Nidwalden and such cantons are the best.

It's a compulsory weapon you have to have in your home, in a gun safe bolted to the floor.
It's basically military property as it should only be used when the country has been invaded and they call for civilians on the streets.

Frankly I don't know guns laws for every state in the US, but yes I'm sure there are states more restrictive than us, but we are way more restrictive than Texas or Florida.

Not having ghettos around and a decent social system might also be the reason since most of the violent and armed criminality we experience comes directly from France, thanks to those who sold our borders out to the EU.

Swiss can do anything they want bro. If a tanned German ever tried to rob a Swiss home, he would get shot to death and dealt with. Remember the Swiss government gives 60% of the men, a machine-gun.

And they get to take home their military gun, not lock it in the armory like slave armies.

>be swiss
>get home assaulted
>be hppy cause you have guns
>shoot the criminal
>no bullets
>criminal laughs and kills you
Nice laws you got there

>gun safes bolted to the floor

this is wrong. safes are not required to own guns in Switzerland. the law dictates that the gun merely be unloaded and not accessible to other people. so you can store it in a closet and it's legal

>Geneva is a shithole.
That's a pleonasm, most of Switzerland can't stand these smug incompetent faggots.

>Swiss
>Have no ammunition

This is a strange and unusual law, in that the Swiss themselves have no knowledge of this law, and keep vast amounts of their personally owned firearms and ammunition in their homes.

yep, fair enough, but we aren't comparing swissland to texas.

Anyways pic is a swiss /k/ meetup.

The no ammo shit only applies to government issued ammo. You can buy as much ammo as you want from gun shops for private use and keep it at home.

>If a tanned German ever tried to rob a Swiss home, he would get shot to death and dealt with
That's only if he also has a gun and threatens you with it. Otherwise you will be the one going to jail.

Oh, sorry. My mistake,
I must have confused it with somewhere else.

>Why is Switzerland the safest country
Remove all violence from USA involving a black person, and the statistics would look lovely.

We do have ammunition (at least we did, it might have changed now since I was relieved of my obligations a couple of years ago). A "canned" box of ammunition you'd bring at home with your sig550 and back with you when called for duty. But you'd better have a *very* good reason if you bring back the ammo can opened.

Nice post, nice trips.

Anyways, pretty much every cow village in Switzerland has a Sports Shooting club, and the recruitment of minors for the junior sections is highly pursued. There are competitions every weekend and it's a great way to connect.

I've been in a club for 4 years when I was a teenager, best time of my live honestly

Switzerland bans shitskins like Turks and Libyans from owning guns. It's a law. Look it up.
So basically only white Europeans can own guns there. This is why homicide rates are so low.

They have no relative poverty and their culture doesn't ever talk about peoples income.

The EU is about to make us accept new restrictions. If we don't follow their rules we'll be kicked out of Schengen. I hope we can get a referendum going. The restrictions are about restricting magazines to 10 rounds in rifles, 20 rounds in pistol and banning scary looking """assault weapons""". All in the name of the fight against terrorism.

>Young Swiss men enjoying some fine sport with fine firearms
And nobody here will be shocked, save for a couple of leftists but nobody cares about them anyways.

leave schengen. fuck the leftist eu

Schengen is extremly important for our border control and general security. Without collaboration with other border units or international police there could be criminals slipping in and out without us being able to check up in them.

We don't have terrorism, we don't bomb sandniggers hellholes. Well, something might happen to Geneva, but nothing of value whatsoever would be lost.

>we'll be kicked out of Schengen.
Good then we can tax their trucks and merchendise again. Schengen brought nothing good but foreign criminality and wage dumping.

According to your fellow Swissfag posters, that order has been changed, and now only the army rifle goes home with you, you have to buy the ammo to fire at the ranges, and the Army provides you the ammo for your army drills.

For your personal civilian guns, you can buy your personal ammo at gun stores, if you are a legal, non-criminal, Swiss gun owner. (need the license and proofs of clean criminal record etc)

>Q Why don't these massacres happen in Switzerland?
>A Because every Swiss man has a machine-gun and trained to use it by his government.

Switzerland joined Schengen in 2008. There was no issues with border security prior to it. Don't swallow the leftist kool-aid. Schengen allows terrorists to enter Switzerland freely from the EU.

That's the thing. We barely have anything (Shootings etc.). As far as I can tell, they want to restrict it because they think our guns are used in terrorist attacks. Even though that's factually not true. A terrorist wouldn't go trough all the paperwork if he can just use his Cell to import weapons from the black market that come from outside the EU.

w h i t e p e o p l e

I don't know why, you tell me.

Yeah that's possible it changed. Leftists keep trying to push more restrictive gun laws, especially against military citizens.

>>Q Why don't these massacres happen in Switzerland?
Well to be perfectly honest it happens once in a while, but not in schools or streets: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zug_massacre

Their government is different to every other country

That is only half true. Schengen has made our control stronger. Sure, a known criminal could theoretically cross the border, but if there is a search warrant for his car number in Germany, the border control will know because of the connections. (there are automated number scanners on the border crossings)

Before Schengen, the collaboration between our police and the police of other nations wasn't easy, it was very slow and didnt work well. Now we have direct access to the databases. I'm not saying Schengen is perfect, or even a good thing in general, but The security aspect IS a positive that we gained from it.

Do you know what the FDPs stance on this is?

Criminals don't give a shit about gun laws and that's not secret. What I believe disturb them the most is that us, mere citizen plebeians are allowed to have guns to defend our rights.

EU has never been fond of having rights and a way to oppose their diktat.

This.

>incredibly lax gun laws
that's a negative; read up on non-memes
>How do they do it
by being tough on violent crime and keeping their aliens in check

Also, since we're about rights, you think the EU will say "Fuck you" to Article 16 of our Constitution?

>that's a negative
Tell me what Slovenia crime rates are compared to Switzerland. Dumb Slavic leftist cunt.

Also I clearly remember over 20 years ago when I was living with my parents 1km away from the french border in Geneva, that we were able to leave our keys on our door (even when everyone was away) and the car open without having to worry about anything.

You just can't do that now and I believe I'm not only feeling that way because I became old and pissed. Switzerland became swiss cheese regarding borders. Look at the border posts, they are always fucking empty since we entered Schengen.

This.

I don't see why they would care honestly. They hate us having money (while not being in the EU), guns and civil rights, I doubt they give a fuck about wether we are granted freedom of speech or not.

Switzerland has a right to bear arms under the 1997 weapons act, correct?

they are stellar, you genitally mutilated goyim

I have to disagree, in theory Schengen,hell, the EU are a very good thing. It gives us the power to stand up for ourselves and fight US/Russia/china influence.

The problem is that its led by communists and leftists.

What's the best thing we plebs could do to defend our rights? I doubt a referendum would work because the EU will just keep threatening us with trade or getting kicked out of Schengen.

>they are always fucking empty since we entered Schengen.

Yes, that is true. Unfortunately, that is a direct result of Schnegen. Since the communication got better, the country depends on it and heavily cut the border control departements budget. While we are heavingy reffugrees coming in from the Tessin borders, at times the german borders were almost empty, or had to be relied on German help.

I was looking into becoming a member of the border control and was on a few gatherings, where that was exactly what the chief of border control critisized. He praised Schengen for more access to database, but at the same time the coverment becomes lazy and careless because of it. Belive me, if they could, they would man up the borders like crazy.

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>What's the best thing we plebs could do to defend our rights?
Stop electing morons who keep licking the EU's boots, I think it's the best way to do if there is still hope left.

What makes our situation shitty is that we don't have a direct access to the see so yeah, in theory the EU could "suffocate" us but I'm not sure it's going to happen any time soon. Remember we are the EU's bank even if they keep talking shit about us.

Good point about us having the money. So, which party would you choose in this case? SVP? FDP?

Yeah that's the problem, why use money on making our borders secure and have people put their life on the line against cross-border criminality when you can use it for something else and have border patrols inside the country to fine the plebeian traitors who DARE bringing too much meat back from France or Germany?

>Believe me, if they could, they would man up the borders like crazy.

inb4, to keep out American tourists.

It's all just a money issue. Personell cuts, while we should hire more right now... I don't undertsand why we invest so much money into the military but cut so much on the border control. I'm talking about buying jets and shit that we don't even need.

But nooo we rather risk letting in criminals who slip through or smuggle in drugs and weapons. When I asked about how many applies they would take they told me they couldnt tell me exactly, because the money situation is so unclear.

FDP is pro-EU, SVP keeps saying they are no pro-EU but are just like the FDP to me and use their anti-EU speech as a mere way to get more polls.

I usually don't vote for parties but for people, I avoid voting (((them))), bankers, lawyers, doctors and all those liberal profession but I rather vote for independant workers, people with smaller wages who are, I believe, more in touch with the population.

They rarely get elected though and when they do they are usually overwhelmed by lobbies. And since politics are fucked up all I hope is that we don't get ripped out of our referendum system.

>I don't undertsand why we invest so much money into the military but cut so much on the border control.
Well, as much as I respect army for what it made me and brought to my life do not forget it is also a toy for bored rich old people who also happen to be in power.

Seems to me like there is no good choice then. Looks like everything from SP to SVP is the same shit with 1-2 variations.

The French cunts in romand cantons keeo trying to undermine it.
Romand cantons are the most anti-gun leftist pro-eu faggots there is. French people are cancer.
Ticino best canton by the way.

Pretty much. Well, to put something to the SVP's credit they kept pissing the EU in late 2000s and early 2010s with their use of popular initiative (even though they shouldn't be abusing it so much) and I kinda liked that.

But in the end it's all rich people looking to be richer and above the law.

>Ticino best canton by the way.
It's nice but overflowed with itlian wage dumpers, like Geneva is with french wage dumpers.

Then I guess it's in our hands to give the EU the big "Fuck you" they've been deserving since they started being such an autocracy, by the means of Referendums and Initiatives.

Does anyone even know a real, non politician person who want's to join EU? I've never met a single one

The cities are full of apes and the countryside is a cultural void.

Vorarlberg and Liechtenstein are much nicer.

lack of niggers

False. My rifle is just leaning against the wall in the corner of the room together with my other rifles - and that's perfectly legal. You are encouraged to partially dismantle it to render it useless to thieves. You're most likely thinking of requirements for gun-ownership in germanistan -> absolutely insane.

no niggers

Switzerland doesn't have a nigger infestation.

Wow if you guys where not surrounded by the EU commie country's I try to move there today.

Nah, it's not like that. You aren't issued any ammo to take home anymore. But you can stroll down to the police department, show them you have an empty criminal record, request a license to buy XY weapons and munitions, and get that license. With that piece of paper you can buy as many weapons as you specified as well as all the ammo you want during a year. Then you repeat. Also, the government issued ammo has a bit more pop to it, designed to damage foreign weapons in case it were to be confiscated in war. Gun stores only sell NATO ammo, which works fine on the military issued rifle.

>designed to damage foreign weapons in case it were to be confiscated in war

isn't that a spoiler?

No, but the retards in the SP, CVP, and FDP pretty much want to accept any demands the EU makes, all in the name of preserving economic growth. They are spineless.

How so?

Otherway around bucko. Otherwise hillbilly town, Alabama would be as bad as new Orleans

You can ccw in Massachusetts. Defend yourself as well, the "victim" can't be black though

No, crime = poverty
Guess which races are less predisposed to be criminal.

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>>Divercity. Or lack of it.
>Cities are full of niggers nippon-sama. Go to Geneva (or any "big" city) and you can play "where is the white person?".

I can confirm this.

Also, Interlaken... ugh. What is this hell??

It's only the french parts that have been enriched right ? Apparently French people are ruining switzerland

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