Why is the Traditionalist Workers Party so underated?

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The leader needs to get /fit/

Because it's white nationalist 1.0.
Look at the guy on the right. Not really hating on them it's just not appealing to youth and that's what the altright needs. Still we should work with them for our common cause.

all white nationalist group leaders should provide a DNA test + family tree from ancestry.com or something.

also.. all white nationalist groups should b e transparent with their funding.

i know neither his ethnicity nor who funds him.

Der Untermensch

Fat fucks get gassed too if they refuse to alter their condition

His fat teddy bear look makes him disarming and, non threatening.

this looks autisic as fuck

Ideas on the right appeal to men, a symbol of strength is a necessity.

>American nationalists
youtube.com/watch?v=4wEUi4qlOQk
Fucking cringing hard over here

Explain their ideology
I don't think they are fascists are they?

>scottish dawn
so I have to listen to that Rebel yell episode about them, pretty based

Heimbach is a good public speaker and makes good points but he's not that great of a public figure. If he would get more /fit/ and weed out the LARPers and skinheads from his group he would have a great organization.

Too late. He's merging with the NSM.

They're a FBI honeypot filled with weirdos and hobbyists. Their leader literally married an Arab with a half black child that he raised as his own.

They look ultra cringy, so I am assuming they are a honey-pot / controlled opposition ?

also TRS likes him, I thought TRS were kikes....

how would you even start a legit NATSOC group irl? how would you even convince other natsocs you arent a honeypot?

Because they're fucking retarded

yeah only based black guys in maga hats arent controlled opposition, amirite?

It's dogshit. Someone needs to throw heimbach on a treadmill and constantly remind him he isn't in 1930s romania.

paranoia is rampant among right wingers. Conservative mindset is based on fear/caution, pretty bad characteristic, because then it's easy to divide people.

jews constantly infiltrate, subvert and co-opt their movements. the paranoia isn't entirely unjustified

They have an aesthetics problem that's seemingly inherent to all NS group. They need to look like the common man to appeal to the common man. Get rid of the black garb, the facial tattoos, and all the obvious bullshit or you are just larping. You are not trying to reach anybody but scary people with that shit no matter how solid your platform is.

I think about what an american facist movement would look like, and I wish I had enough artistic talent to produce a fusion of nsdap imagery with symbols of the american revolution. Like pic related, but with a bald eagle and the 13 star symbol from the colonies, en lieu of the swastika. Obviously, white shirt uniforms would be much better too.

Why wear a tie if you're going to tuck it? I've tucked in my tie when eating before. But walking around with it tucked looks strange to me. Is it a european thing?

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He is fucking smart though. Annihilates anyone in a debate. Anyone with a sharp mind like that gets a pass provided they're not morbidly obese.

I think it looks good and antifa can't grab it(bigger issue imo).

>Traditional Worker's Party
>Heimbach never did any real work

Explain this meme name to me, who exactly are the "traditional workers" he is referring to and why does he represent them?

I didn't think about people grabbing it. That's a good reason.

>leader is a fat schismatic OrthoLARPer

all you need to know really

If things get ruff out there, the tie won't get in the way.

Nazis in the US really need to get rid of that tattooed faggots and skinheads.

He got a gym membership a bit ago.

Skinheads like pic-related are a dying breed. These """people""" would be amongst the first to get thrown into the gas chambers since they're degenerate, drug abusing, drunken, jobless, low IQ subhumans like antifa who do nothing but hurt the WN cause. If their ancestors and all the great leaders and war heroes in European history were to see these degenerates today, they'd treat them like human trash. If you're white and you dress like these fags, you lose your status as a human, much less a white person.

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No one EVER. Will be swayed by those retards looking like that.

I heard him after the Pikeville rally on Stormfront radio the Monday after the event and I seem to resonate with their message of Faith, Family & Folk.

What episode number?

>American education

Here you lazy cunt
youtube.com/watch?v=d9HTh6DqAgM

Are the supporters of tradition or (((tradition)))?

Literally run by a fat ugly neckbeard.

It's communism. That shit is so last century.

Because Mattisyu Chaimbach is fat. If he lost weight and put more effort into not looking like a greasy truck driver, people would probably follow more of his stuff.

You aren't going to reach normies anyway. It's a retarded cuckservative strategy that has never worked in all of history.

You want scary people.

For example, the left won because they put people like this on the streets and scared the shit out of normies. This is how civil rights was pushed, by flooding the streets with armed negros yelling "kill whitey" and destroying shit. Then they had the "good cop" MLK as a counterpoint. Did the MLK guys complain how the violent black power groups made them look bad to normies? No. Because the underlying message being sent was "we can do this the easy way or we can do it the hard way." Then the normies are intimidated into going along.

If you're looking for the least autistic organisation, look into Identity Evropa. Looking professional, cutting all the sperg shit, and actually trying to accomplish radiative realistic goals are what we strive for.

t. Current Member

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Matt Heimbach is really well spoken, he's just not good with optics.

youtube.com/watch?v=w7f9EGOlrMs

Another current member reporting in.

Run by someone who cares more about his whores and media attention than actual activism.

t. Former Guardian

>no ridiculously showy tattoos
>functional hairstyle and clothing
Looks fine to me.
Should he wear thick rimmed glasses and skinny jeans like yourself?
Stop being such a tryhard.

>Bomber jackets
>ever going out of style

i better get this picture to guys at /fa/

What would you recommend, then?

BOLSONARO PRESIDENTE

Honestly I don't even know anymore. I've had the fortune of being close to many groups in this haphazard "movement" and all of them are too busy with factionalism to form anything coherent.

I'll give Identity Evropa this: they're probably the best at being present across the board, but that's also their greatest weakness. Their members are spread thin in many areas and I for one was disappointed with the lack of organization in my local chapter and incompetence overall. They tried to spread too fast.

I would suggest sticking to more local groups. See if you can find one in your area that isn't too public and doesn't get involved in shitty drama and infighting like so many do.

I might be able to give you a name to look for if you can tell me approximately where in the US you are.

This. And if you fellas think fears of controlled opposition are unjustly paranoid, look up Terence McKenna's lecture "Evolving Times", when he drops some truth bombs about infiltrating UFO groups on behalf of the FBI.

Because Heimbach is swarthy and fat.

Washington State

He's looking way better than he did.

This kills the American White Nationalist though..

>You aren't going to reach normies anyway

WRONG. In early 90's Russia, when political freedom weren't restricted, and we had actual nationalist parties instead of chink and muslim loving le based Boudine — the "Pamyat" (Remembreance) society was vastly more popular, because it presented itself as a historical society, while LARPing brownshirts from RNE with swastikas were ridiculed and avoided.

They aren't.

This is what's so hard to understand about these fucking LARP'ers. Why the fuck are they dressing up like a bunch of skinheads instead of trying to look appealing to the average white normie? Do they honestly think walking around with shields, boots, bald with tattoos all over their body is going to attract reputable and respectable people to their cause? I mean, come on. It's time to grow up and think about this logically. They are selling themselves as a neo-nazi political group. It doesn't matter if that's what they actually are, it matters because they should be trying to recruit more members into it. They aren't going to recruit more normies because that shit's been ostracized too badly within westernized society for it to ever become mainstream.

They need to repackage that shit so it appeals to normies (get rid of the leather, balled heads, excessive tats, Nazi like symbols, etc.) and preach a subtle yet "white leaning" political message. There are non-autistic ways to go about it that still convey the same message, just less conspicuously and more "normie reachable".

There's a pretty active group there that does a lot of behind-the-scenes work. I know they put on some exclusive forum or something like that every once in a while.

Here's their website: truecascadia.com/

For lulz here's an antifa attempt to defame them too: archive.is/875wo

Arrgg I beez a white nationalist pirate matey

looks like a lot of winners

They need to get away from the NSM and the overt neo-Nazi groups. Those things reek of FBI honeypots.

Hey its matt heimbach hes really a POS i once watched him spit in his girlfriends face during dinner for no reason at all

This guy also punched a black chick during a trump rally last year

Look like decent guys to me. I'm going to read the thread now.
The cog symbol is fascist (is it?), but I'd guess it's not harped upon by the deformation cunts because cogs of war wouldn't have been called that if cogs were a supposed hate symbol.

They are not decent they are all idiots just following matt who actually is quite intelligent but still no common sense

>In early 90's Russia
I said normies, not slavs

You got a vidya???

Matt is swarthy as hell though.. Nigger blood runs through his veins

And now he is suing Donald trump

It's good opsec. Most use clipon ties as well

This. Tattoos on the face are going to get you nowhere politically. People on here say that they don't care about normies, but normies are going to be the only way to progress politically. Attracting normies should be the priority of white identity groups, not attracting already redpilled autists.

It's why I can't take American Nationalist serious.

How can anyone take any advocate for white nationalism serious when the leader isn't even white?

Do people in the US even think of Heimbach as a white? I see a mixed race individual for example.

>blah blah recruit more normies blah blah larpers doing everything wrong blah blah someone else should do all the work blah blah I am a massive vag
This thread is everything that is wrong with pol you screechy little bitches.

Nah unfortunately i dont but it really did happen i used to be in a club with this dipshit, I also watched the same chick jump out of a moving car to get away from him while i was at towson university one night visiting with friends on our way to PA

Meh, I see it differently. I will agree though, most of the action is contained to the coasts, leaving much to be desired for anyone in between.

I'm friends with a skinhead and you are partly right (although he has stopped doing most all drugs but smoking)
Purity spiraling won't help anything especially since skinheads are more ideologically compatible with your outlook than most. Fun fact: He knows a self described neo-nazi who is dating a nigger.

BASED BLACK MAN!

Identity Evropa seems alright

What would be ideal is an organization like IE that embraces NS and fascism openly

Most of your 'more pure' groups are also degenerate as fuck. Stupid, dump, Nazi scum. :^)

But seriously, I want there to be a serious and intelligent group, but the more I look, the more I find people constrained by dogma, gobbling down redpills so quickly they cannot assimilate them. It's sad, but the 'nazi', 'natsoc', and 'WN' movements are their own worst enemy.

>that's what the altright needs
The alt right is a fucking cringefest at this point. It's literally manchildren on YouTube pretending to be intellectuals and "Le white sharia XD". Holy fuck it's embarrassing.

The UK had National Action. They were based as fuck. I would check in with what their former members are up to

This.
We need well-spoken, well-dressed Identity Evropa types on one side and scary skinhead types on the other. We just have to make sure the skinheads aren't just mindless drug-addicted thugs and actually have a ideological goal in mind.

That will never work.

Part of the reason so many groups have a hard time mainstreaming in America is that they want to LARP as Germans from the 1940's instead of creating something uniquely American that will appeal culturally to Americans.

Another thing I'll give Identity Evropa: their propaganda and message is generally on point though I thought (and still do think) that I can photoshop posters better than whoever does it.

(((white))) hehehee

>What would be ideal is an organization like IE that embraces NS and fascism openly
That would be a bad strategic move. IE is an attractive organization to normies because it doesn't openly support NS. It's simply a pro-white group. If more groups were just pro-white and not Nazi LARPers, most white people would be okay with white nationalism.

Inside the Skin gangs there are some groups that hate drugs will beat the fuck out of drug users destroy club members lives if they are found out to be on drugs

their leader is a neckbeard

IE actually does generally support it, although we're unable to do it publicly, as we're purposely avoiding the "Ebil Nazis!!!11 D:

Niche local groups. Most fascist groups (at least in burgerland) are very factional and either co-opted by feds or very inefficient and disorganized.
Honestly any organization that embraces NS and fascism openly will not have many members. It is better to have fascist ideology without explicitly saying you are fascists if you want to appeal to others.
You live in America right?

oy vey national socialism will nevah werk goyim!

Why do they have a menorah on their shields?

>avoiding a stereotype instead of destroying it and educating the people on natsoc ideology

good goy..
gooooooood

Yeah don't listen to me, the guy who has actually been in physical contact with many of the groups being talked about right now for the last two years.

Retard.

yes NATSOC is not inclusive enough goys!
whites must learn to be multicultural!