Redpill me on gays

Redpill me on gays.
Are they "born this way"?
Or is that some term invented by leftists?

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Friendly reminder that you can only become gay when you reach puberty, so you cannot be born this way, only with an unbalance of hormones.

You can be born with a mental disorder, so that may be true.

Defective genes and childhood trauma cause these things
Let's hope that with CRISPR we can rid the world of faggotry forever

For the most part it's caused by left wing brain washing.

there are some kids that you can just tell they're gonna be.
but for men it also happens that experiences in childhood/puberty can imprint on them that shape their sexuality for life.

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Think you're born gay?

Try being, Born Again

I wasn't.

I prefer the company of men.

So more people are receptive to it?

that's just no true, i've seen many gays who said they knew they were into guys when they were 6-7 years old.

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i think some people may be more likely to become gay but environment affects whether or not it will happen

Homosexuality is a mutation and not the standard healthy state of a human. While some amounts of this variation fo occur naturally, most of it is not. The issue is being furthered by a lot of chemical manipulation with drugs like ant pregnancy pills as well as in the foods we are eating. Also society is basically promoting homosexuallity over straight people at this point.

They have a mental disorder.

a small percentage are. a big percentage are pretending because it became a fad to "be gay" and "transgendered" with in the last decade or so

**I mean, what causes some people to be influenced by it over others if it occurs from propaganda as a child?

its a mental disorder the fact that it wasnt something people would be proud with in entire history of mankind tells you something

also it isnt natural they can never reproduce and who fucks where they shit

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>also it isnt natural they can never reproduce and who fucks where they shit

To be fair, there are a lot of heterosexual people who have also been taking part in sodomy as of late. It's become normalized, probably as part of the agenda to normalize homosexuality.

The truth is we don't know either way and anyone stating with certainty either way is an emotionally-charged cunt.

I believe that 'alternative sexuality' is informed by inherited genetics, genetic mutations, and social conditioning.

gay is for mental disorder
faggot is for left wing brainwashing

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Every gay I've ever met didn't believe being gay was something out of their control.

As proven by them coming onto me at some point after me telling them I'm straight.

Dude, I've got a faggy cousin who I'm pretty sure was gay out of the womb. He'd play with his dolls while we played baseball in the yard.
he's married to a guy now and quite happy.

There is a natural order and disorder. Yin and yang. The human experience is about bringing the chaos to order to create a singularity of life and reflecting the depth and beauty of everything in between. It is NOT about being a degenerate faggot who denies they have issues. It's about everyone AND the individual at once, no exceptions. Ya dig? Buncha dead spirit having giant children walking around and running the show - NO LONGER!

That´s hormonal imbalance. In fact, I´ve played with dolls too when I was a kid but I did not turn out gay (I played soccer too, which is like baseball in Brazil).
Also, you can only become gay when you become sexually aware.

Crabs in a bucket.

It was pretty obvious.

Fey voice, limp wrist, girly walk......I don't know, desu. Obviously not all gay guys are like that, but no one in my family was the least bit surprised when he came out at 15.

>born that way
While I don't know how the kids were when they came out of the womb, but back in 1st grade in 1991 me and some other kids successfully outed 3 boys as gay.

Not only that, but one of them took a straight girl (got my first BJ from her) into the closet and kissed her to show he wasn't gay.

Closet, check.
Gay guy kissing girl to hide it, check.
Us not falling for it, check.

Steven, Ross, and Jason all turned out to be totally gay. No joke, we were ruthless to these gays in FIRST GRADE before the internet was really a thing.

I really hate the straight sodomy. There's already a hole made for your dick. Put it in the Pussy.

I've never fucked a girl in the ass, I don't want to, and I didn't watch anal porn back when I was watching porn

I am not saying homosexual acceptance is the answer, I am saying that we don't know what causes it and we can't reasonably suppose that people are choosing to be fags en masse. There will be a way to handle this that doesn't involve choosing between accepting them all of genociding them all.

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I think its somewhat like sociopaths/psychopaths, in other words some are legit born that way, others become that way via the environment they are raised in

The only reason you hear so much about them these days is because they told politicians that their price got donations was the destruction of Christianity from all walks of life. The politicians agreed and hence the degeneracy.

Fuck off dumbass AIDSmonger

its because its a wedge issue, gop is still clinging to this

I thought that last one was edited. Where have we gone?
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Gays are God's biggest mistake. Other than the Jews.

the faggots that say "i was born this way" are mostly the victims of some horrible child abuse - a lot of the time sexual. then there are some who are just degenerates (suck dick, fuck traps, junkies) There is also a disturbing correlation of faggots being pedophiles. Considering all this shit - they all go straight into the ovens.

Sodomy is nasty anyway. Those who do are literally putting their dick in shit.

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No. It's a response to trauma, social opportunism, and environment. Grow up with a dysfunctional mother and absent father? You end up with an aversion to women and a desperate need for masculine affection. Notice how many gay men grow up with dysfunctional mothers and absent fathers?

Fr the good of the west we must Mike Pence the fuck out of the faggots. Praise Kek.

Gays are female men. Men are the dominate masters of the world while the females are the slaves who like it up the ass.

Until 1970 be gay was a desease declared by the medicine. That shit just was erased because kikes allowed.

Who the hell would pretend to be gay though? Seriously? I really find it hard to believe that a "big percentage" are pretending to want cocks shoved in them. That's like saying a large part of people who want to have their arm chopped off because of body dismorphia are pretending. That's just ridiculous. I imagine and incredibly small percent are pretending, but those must be under the most rare circumstances.

I think it's mostly hormone imbalance and trauma and only partially societal conditioning. Probably mostly trauma. I imagine growing up without a father and perhaps an overbearing mother and being around low self-esteem male friends who don't pursue women causes most of it. I think it's mostly a mental thing that is like a "fork in the road" scenario leading up to the years before puberty and then puberty itself kind of seals it in place.

t. - bisexual faggot and general degenerate

That picture is so depressing...

here's the secularl redpill on homosexuality. its basically really bad for you.

Better, user?

my church has a pride flag baka

And you believe them? No, that's stupid.

This is true, my little cousin (male) only played with dolls and went as fucking fairy princesses for Halloween. He is now gay AF in his teen years. We all knew.

This image really hurt me.

Lel the Nazis died for fucking nothing.

I don't think they're all born that way but I don't think it's a choice either. I fucking hate women, and if I could reconcile being a faggot I would, but I just don't find men attractive. I think faggotry is a combination of things, some genetic and some down to life experiences.

I'm a socio, and yes I was born this way. But not all socio/psychos are born, some are made. Environmental factors so play a role.

>believing several gay people about their own sexuality over straight people who don't know whats it's like to be gay
>no that's stupid
hell, even us straight people can confirm that. i knew i was into girls by that age, maybe you're confused or something?

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Nope they aren't. Literally 0(zero) proof. That's why with identical twins one could be gay but the other not.

LGBTQ = Let God Burn Them Quickly

Burn fags on the stake to get them ready for the fires of Hell.

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Can’t stop having sex with strangers even when in a relationship: advindicate.com/articles/3022

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Roses are red
Violets are blue
God hates fags
And so should you

Romans 1
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

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Eh, I have a cousin that is a pretty cool guy. Conservitive, was in the marine core clacking Somalis why the time he was 19. Funny as hell, one of the most bro tier people I've ever met. Didny know he was gay until my cucked up, Hillary supporting father told me with a look of disgust on his face

You're really bringing Taoism into it? We've all be keeping up with the Jordan Peterson videos. No need to queue us in on "order and chaos". Dude said that anyone who was certain either way was an emotionally charged cunt and you jump straight to an emotion based argument of certainty.

The fact is that we don't know what causes it yet. You can keep going on with certainty about how you're right, but that doesn't make you a clinical psychologist or a scientist of any kind. You're just an other shmuck posting on a solitare deck shuffling tips and tricks forum like the rest of us.

I agree with the psychopath part, Croatian satan. But I think that it's incredibly rare that psychopaths and gays are "born that way". Maybe if they encountered some serious trauma in the womb like hormone imbalances and cortisol spikes from stress, but I think it's mostly factors in pre-pubescent childhood especially hormonal and psychological probably with some genetic predispositions. I doubt that genetic guarantee anyone will be a fag, but I bet it would certainly make certain people more predisposed to it.

I really think that this occurs in the years leading up to puberty and then puberty itself and the few years following it really seal the deal and lock it in place.

Definitely this. A lot of psychological fuckery.

Dumb bimbo. Her daughters wouldn't have had sexy-time with their dad if she just didn't look at the explosions.

I'm guessing an ancient analogy for getting mentally "stuck" after experiencing horror? Maybe an ancient explanation for PTSD. She saw some shit she couldn't handle and got stuck there and couldn't get past it.

Hormones combined with his parents doing a shitty job at raising him.

no, the born this way movement is horseshit, it sprouted from the evangelical backlash against gays as they were see as degenerates, as they are. so the born this way movement came as if to say "we cant help being degenerate, were born this way"

And then some people are just horny bastards that'll fuck anything with a pulse.

Just answer this: Did you choose to be straight?

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A large percentage of gay people have been sexually abused by other males as kids, which later leads them to adopt a homosexual preference. Same thing with pedophiles.

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Were you really not attracted to any women before you hit puberty?

Acting like Sup Forums doesn't actively promote faggotery. If you don't want your sons to be gay, don't show them this site.

Sure thing kraut bro

This should give you guys the lolz

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You expect me to take you seriously when you invoke one of the biggest blue pills in human history

noice

Some might be born mentally ill.
But the recent tranny surge is caused by society corrupting beta males into taking their masochism to the next level.

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>was expecting the guy to be some kind of bdsm master
>just a dog humping a face
Gay as fuck to be completely desu senpai.

Often yes, we can look at brain structures and gay male brains often look more like female typical brains in certain areas (some of which provide for attraction). Vice versa with female brains. For example, the youngest son in a set of sons is typically more likely to be gay. One theory is that the mother builds up a slight immunity to the androgens which "masculinize" the brain in utero, thus leaving the brain a bit less "masculinized" in certain areas.

T. someone who studies neuroscience

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I'm gay. Ive never been abused and I have a normal family.

I don't know if I was "born this way" but I can't say I've ever had a say in the matter. Ive never been attracted to women, as hard as I tried. And trust me, I tried. When I was a teenager I would watch straight porn and I tried dating girls but it never did anything for me. Meanwhile I would get a half stiffy watching baseball and rugby on TV. I was in total denial .

All I ever wanted was to have a family and lead a regular life. It's pretty devastating to realize that's not going to happen. I could pretend to be straight and start a family sure, but the only thing worse than just accepting I'm gay would be to start a marriage and a family on a lie because I'm selfish. That would be unfair to my hypothetical wife and kids. I also dont think it's ideal for gay men to marry or raise children but that's just me.

I can't say if I was "born this way" or not but I think people who are under the impression that you can simply will yourself into sexual attraction one way or the other are misguided to say the least.

>TFW your views on homosexuality are determined by which political party you are in.

Gays don't exist. Homosex is a fetish. Clinging to a degenerate fetish doesn't make it a lifestyle.

>"women"
>implying you've ever met a woman not indoctrinated with feminism

Being attracted to the opposite sex and gender is also a fetish. It just happens to be the most common one.

no scientific evidence or twin studies prove that you can be born gay, but you can be born with a mental disorder so it's probably just a mental disorder like people always said it was

There is not enough evidence. All behaviour is pre-determined to a large extent. Gay research is taboo so it isn't done. There.

I had regular crushes on girls starting in first grade, but it wasn't based on sexual attraction. I don't know what it was based on.

There are many cases of twins with one gay, the other not. so can't be born that way. Usually diddled by an authority figure and it fucks them up. They end up mentally trying to justify the actions by accepting the fact that it was their fault because they led them on or some shit.

>default natural state
>genitals literally created for heterosexual reproduction
>"fetish"

kill yourself

I'm not sure you can legitimately classify something that is required to allow for the survival of a species as a fetish.

The concept of sexual orientation is a modern one and one that will lead us to our destruction. If you asked a bum fucking Greek what he thought of modern sexuality he'd be disgusted. Sure if you wanted to you could fuck effeminate men and boys as much as you wanted, but you'd still produce children with your wife or mistresses. The idea of being exclusively preferring men wasn't really thought of and rarely do you see any evidence of someone who you would say the only preferred their own gender.

What does that have to do with anything?

at least he/she is able to draw attention and act like it was rape. It is obvious that after he/she decided to suck a dogs dick, he/she wished he/she didn't do it... More like a girl than i thought possible. I'm sure he/she had the dog put down and the guy arrested.

Sexuality was also a ritual in those times. People forget this.

I'm gay and I can't say for sure if they really are "born that way" as many leftists say but I never made a conscious choice to be homosexual. I remember being attracted to the same sex as soon as I felt attraction to other people.

Being gay is just a fetish

What about if you never felt any real 'drive', but you looked at women because you thought it was the done thing? Only to find out later than men appeal to you as people far more.

I-I'm asking for a friend.