Hey Sup Forums frequent OP here. Why are you guys talking about civil war?

Hey Sup Forums frequent OP here. Why are you guys talking about civil war?

Why would you want a civil war? To me it seems that the only people who stand to benefit from civil war (and any war really) are fringe groups and foreign interests who want to take America down a notch.

It also seems highly unlikely for a war to happen as for one to occur, there would need to be a large movement by the left or right depending on who is in power. (again not likely to happen unless California tries to secede)

So I guess what I'm asking is, could you justify millions of AMERICAN deaths just because of a political ideological difference?

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>fringe groups

Literally any and all people who want the white race to continue to exist right now.

I am literally defined as an extremist, because I want white countries to stay white, and all who believe the same are fringe too.

We have nothing to lose and everything to gain essentially.

People are just bored, nothing interesting has happened in our lifetimes except a couple of planes flying into buildings, and honestly that was lame as fuck, few people died who cares? I think people are spiritually ready for some meaningful event to occur in their lifetime.

Fuck off. Leftists are the ones trying to murder Congressmen. You can't seriously be trying to gaslight us here by blaming the right for this.

Because the previous one is where we went from a confederation of states that might succeed to an empire doomed to crumble.
“The consolidation of the states into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it.” Robert E. Lee
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No I think you should be able to believe in whatever you like, as long as it falls short of inciting violence you could say you hate niggers and spics and whitey all you want.

Of course your group has everything to gain because you are a member of a fringe group.

I've honestly been to that site like twice, and I didn't get it. Too confusing/ not user / so many choices.

I feel that too. I'm an atheist and I wrestled a lot with meaning when I first became an atheist. Spiritually, you just have to get right with yourself. You aren't going to find meaning in anything if you can't at least form some sort of moral/ideological code for yourself.

General Lee also sent his own men into Union guns to be mowed down how many times? Lee was a great commander, but he made a horrible mistake in one battle, and it cost him the entire war. We still are a group of states who are stronger together than we are separate. The fact is, we are part of the largest empire the world has ever seen, and we aren't doomed to crumble as long as we are unified under the American flag and fight for our rights in a democratic and non-violent manner.

Nothing in our lives has any meaning in the massive scale of the universe, which means that anything we place value in has cardinal meaning. That is very freeing.

>we are unified under the American flag and fight for our rights in a democratic and non-violent manner.
Oh man, I was chuckling until the end, then I was laughing my ass off. Good one mon.

He says we and our a lot

Very true. You have to find meaning in your own sphere of influence, once you do that, you can find peace.

*We as Americans
*Our country as Americans

Whats wrong with being able to identify with your own countrymen Aussie? I'm simply making a generalization for the sake of making a simple argument.

So you believe that we are stronger separate from each other?

You believe we are crumbling?

You believe we shouldn't be unified democratically?

How shall we be organized then user? As a socialist republic where you are a slave to government handouts?

You talk, yet you provide no counter arguments. Please do enlighten me on what you find to be so hilarious. Also I'm proud to be from the south and I have many relatives who died fighting for the confederacy during the Civil War, not that its relevant, I just feel like mentioning it.

>gaslight
motherfucker, half this board unironically believes in Alex Jones. Also you cucks would lose, no one in their right mind would buy alt-right war bonds, you cucks support and look up to someone nigger tier (Trump does not pay his bills). Not only that the few intelligent people on your side just use you for add shekels. You would be run up a tree and no one would want to save you.

I want to watch the riots in LA and people get shot for shit and giggles

C'mon FBI it's like you're not even trying anymore.

I'm not a leftist, I'm a Republican. An exception doesn't make the rule user, it was one crazy whacked out liberal and if you try to refute that show me all the murders normal liberals are committing against republicans. I know it happens, but it's not anything that we should tear our country apart about.

You make out like you're a human and not a mongoloid inbred southern retard

Anyone who thinks AJ isn't a troll is an idiot. He has some great views and is intelligent, but then he goes and talks about demons and false flag incidents. And if it came to blows user, neither side would win. It would be bloody and drawn out, and millions of Americans would die for a political ideological difference.

You know, I was told that it's exactly this revolution scenario that those in power are the most afraid of. Even more so than WW3...

You should think about it once you're done shilling.

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(also saying all people from the south are retards just undermines your own position and makes you look intolerant and ignorant)

lol

Pence has lawyered up

Who's scared again?

i want a civil war in the usa, but i´m not american.
i´ve been waiting for sodom too burn for a while now.
do it faggots. race war now and all that

>Please do enlighten me on what you find to be so hilarious.
Explain what is humorous, yeah buddy; right after my pig learns to hit that one note.

Why would the people in power want their people to have a civil war? Use your head user, would you want your own people to kill each other? That doesn't make them evil, abusive, and manipulative, that simply means they don't want their citizens to kill each other. Sure you can claim they do it for monetary benefit, but then you'd be acknowledging that having a stable government is beneficial. I'm not shilling, I just don't want to have to fight my own American brothers and sisters... Because I would take up arms and fight, and not in the ironic way.

>So you believe that we are stronger separate from each other?
Do I believe centralized control is inefficient and creates strategic points of extreme fragility? Yes.

>Russians all over the board
>president saying not to trust the media
>news says Russians are manipulating alt-right and pres
>inb4 paid shill
I actually am george soross

What?

Pic related retard southern cunt fuck

You deflected the question user and didn't truly answer, but I'll bite. So do I. I don't really think the government should have a lot of power either, I just think it should be balanced. The executive branch and judicial branch have recently become way too large imho. The federalist papers pretty much spell out that the legislative branch should be the most powerful, and the executive and judiciary branch are in place to keep the legislative branch from exceeding their bounds. But recently we've seen the legislative branch lose power, we've seen the states lose power, and we've seen the 9th circuit court in South Carolina has the ability to control what is right for the entire country which is frankly disheartening.

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Thanks for bumping my thread btw

In 30 years whites will be a minority in the US, we will have lost control of our country forever.

Could you justify laying down and dying?

No. Color is irrelevant. Culture is what is pure. Maintain your culture, maintain your views, and you won't have to worry about being pushed into a conglomerate. Why? Because no one is forcing you to. The second government institutions try and force you to become something that you aren't, is the second I take up arms with you and fight against oppression under the rights framed in our constitution.

I put my dick in your thread and you post a pic like you're ready to suck it.

Fag southerners

>I don't really think the federal government should have a lot of power either
The states used to be more powerful than the federal government, as per constitution. The civil war is where that decisively ended. The jew banks gaining footing in a bunch of states governments would be difficult, but then they just had to control the central government.

because people are tribalist, resources are getting scarce and these fringe groups get massive funding from abroad

(not so much Russia and Israel as China )

Me posting a Spike Spiegel pic means I'm gonna suck your dick? Woah now Aussie, don't get too excited. I'm pretty secure in my own sexuality, so no need to start throwing around insults.

>having spirituality as a fucking atheist and believing it
Holy shit new age cuck boy kys

I mean this is a pretty false statement. The states and the Federal Govt. always have been balanced, it's the reason the nation worked perfectly fine for about ~60 years after the constitution was amended. Also you can thank Jackson for abolishing the central banks. But I do agree the fed. ( not an actual gov. bank) has far too much power.

>implying race is just "color"
>implying we're going to be able to keep our culture in Los Estados Unidos when we can barely keep it now
>implying nonwhites aren't being forced into our communities, schools & workplaces every day
>implying our taxes aren't effectively draining whites to pay for the nonwhites to outbreed us

Ignorance is bliss I guess, hope you wake up before it's too late. In either case, I certainly don't plan to let my country become Brazil 2.0 without a fight.

youtube.com/watch?v=8vMypCinkRk

The reason the nation worked perfectly fine for about ~60 years is that it had an absolute racial majority.

It's the only way we're getting our Independence back. The Federal Mafia won't have it any other way.

If we have to kill every last fucking Yankee to get there so be. They brought our wrath on themselves.

> Color is irrelevant

Literally no one except sheltered white liberals thinks that. Your non-white ""liberal"" friends certainly don't think that either. It all reverts to the natural aka tribal way the minute there's a lull in comfy (see prison, military, economic downturn etc)

Could you justify risking the lives and livelihoods of you, your family and your friends for events whose most dire consequences will not be felt until long after you're dead?

It doesn't matter the country a minority lives in so long as it fully assimilates into said culture yes?

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When the minority is actually a small minority % yes. Once the "majority" starts approaching 50% and then dips below, it's ogre

Ok, can you explain why this happens?

>implying they assimilate
>implying they will be minority forever
WEW LAD

Power struggle and tribalism, the 2 basic survival instincts.

Hey guys OP here, I'm on my phone now as I'm heading to a friends house. Gimme like 5 minutes and I can reply to you guys.

Democracy.

>could you justify millions of AMERICAN deaths just because of a political ideological difference?
yes.

>it seems that the only people who stand to benefit from civil war (and any war really) are fringe groups and foreign interests who want to take America down a notch.

You are right OP. What should we normal people do about it though? Just lay down and take it? Pic related.

I believe the forgiving nature of democracy has allowed cultural Marxists and Globalists/Jews has allowed America to be corrupted. The fall of Joseph McCarthy was probably when they got full reign. What do you think of this?

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Other then the fact that we are more spread out then anyone, and would slowly get picked off.

Hey NBF I've felt this before, maybe I'm just being ignorant, and maybe I'll feel differently tomorrow, but I still see the most rational way of changing the system is through democratic means.

>Being this new
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>being this retarded

This, but that doesnt mean a centralized gov't cant exist without banker's influence

>the being this meme twice in a row same idea
Kys

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Good assessment.

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Because civic nationalism is a failed ideology that only ends in ethnicity based civil war, as observed in Yugoslavia, and pretty much every empire ever.

It would be suicide

The North has the advantage in population and economy, if you werent crushed immediately you'd lose the war of attrition

Please kill yourself

Terror incidents say hello. Also, you could just move to Syria if you want some excitement and death and destruction.

I want nuclear war and innawoods. I'm tired of this world and this civilization. We need to go back if we want to get things right the next time

Embarring unironic civil war, I plan on being perfectly healthy in the 2040s
>can you justify fighting for what you believe in even if you might not get to see it in the end yourself
what is a soldier for literally any cause?

Battle of trips

Do you really think theres any chance of reconciliation between each side?

Thanks, will click

We need a collapse before we can rebuild. If things continue to go as they are the future will be lost under the control of the Judaya. Besides, how can you expect to attain anything better if you don't take the risks?

The left doesnt have the police/military support or general experience with guns to survive this revolution they keep crowing about.

As evidenced by the fuckstick who had stand off distance, a rifle, and an open field full of targets at 25 yards but still couldn't do anything meaningful.

The left needs a good culling. It will be bloody but nobody deserves it more.

Race is the harbinger of culture. Culture is borne by race.

Let's assume Republican vs Democrat for the sake of simplicity.

We have all of the food, livestock, military vets, and firearms you nigger.

God forbid a civil war 2 happens, the Republican countryside would easily win.

Fucking 1776. Fuck yes.

You do know war is very different from arguing over the internet, right?

You have to actually risk your life. You have to shoot people and get shot at. You have to eat shitty food and sleep outside in the rain. Your family and friends might be killed. No more being comfy at home playing video games. Actual WAR.

Is your race so important that you are willing to risk all of your comfy first world lifestyle for this ideology?

I just want a happening at this point

Million deaths for a country not to collapse?

Are you retarded?
Putting lives of those that should have been warriors over the future of a people?
Kill yourself you braindead moron

I would definitely risk my comfy, first world lifestyle to preserve the ability for future Americans to have a chance at a comfy, first world lifestyle.

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Harhar. It's all internet tough guy talk until you actually have to get off your ass and do something. I guarantee everyone here will chicken out when they find out you can't watch anime when you're at war.

And what about your family and friends? They didn't ask for war.

All I'm gonna say is: I'm the sane one here.

HOLy shit wasn't ready for this. Mark my words I will ride against

Id go full sandnigger faggot, I'm ready to go out for my people this minute and everyone after. I don't selfishly covet the individual over everything else. Everyone dies but my race doesn't have to. If it's for the good of the collective, it's justified.

Sheesh nice hivemind fag. I'm willing to put myself on the line but I'm only going after big fish. Rewards gotta outweigh the loss- if you body a couple of pawns what's the point? It's a long range waiting game and going an hero too early will just hurt the movement and freeze resistance (our resistance) be vigilant

Nobody said anything about wasting the shot you faggot. Are you so retarded you don't realize it, or are you intentionally trying to say that dedication to a group = being in a hivemind.
Let me put it this way: If a soldier sacrifices himself to save the rest of his squad, and gives up his life for his country, is he part of a hivemind? No hes not, your a mongoloid, and he is giving his life for the continuation of his collective, as opposed to selfishly indulging in 'self preservation'.

Cool story bud, let's see if you really are so dedicated to your cause: I want you to invest your entire life savings into the WN movement. Anything outside of feeding yourself and paying the bills, I want you to put it in support of white nationalists. If you're willing to go far as risking your own life, this should be easy right?

Turns out you don't need to wait until the race war to support the white race. But that's soo boring.

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its not that simple, unfortunately. Better to prepare myself as a 'loner' logistically. An open front is a dead front for the right.

Are you asking me to read that wall of text as a response to what I've said? Because that's ridiculous.

You can prepare yourself however you want, but you trying to squirm your way out of supporting the WN movement RIGHT NOW is proof that you are a hypocrite.

Again: I'm the sane one here.

>what is guerilla warfare

Have you not been paying attention for the past 50 years Yankee?

You're extremely frequent

the only war that would help anyone really is a war against jewish infiltration

Your telling me that I'm not ready to give my life because I wont give money to a group destined to fail rather than join in the fight myself and buy everything for myself, but YOU wont read a "wall of text" thats takes, at most, 10 minutes to go through, to see what you might be missing about the situation. I'm the one who is all talk and not dedicated? Sure fag.

Chaos always comes first here

It's why so many Sup Forumsacks supported Corbyn in the British election.

>and it cost him the entire war
As much as I love the south it always baffled me how people still think that the south could have possibly won. It was only a matter of time until they lost