/SHTF General/

This is the first SHTF General thread. The purpose is to start getting our shit together in case we get something like Civil War II or an economic collapse. This isn't about getting you to arm up (you should already be armed anyway,) but rather figuring out what other skills will be needed for survival, basic logistics and networking with like minded individuals.

If (when) SHTF, supply chains are going to break. They're long and more fragile than most would like to think about. We need to be thinking about basic necessities, i.e. how are you going to get food, water, clothes, etc... in your area? You need to be thinking about who you can trust. We need to have networks in place so that we are already organized if SHTF, and just as importantly, we need to know what the fuck we are doing.

For those of you that are rural/semi-rural, I would recommend learning how to produce food WITHOUT synthetic inputs. We should assume that things like NPK fertilizer and pesticides will not be available. Also, seed saving is a good idea, and sometimes that is simple, sometimes not.

Here is the start of a series about growing food in ways that are compatible with no synthetic inputs:
youtube.com/watch?v=nNMdWnfjs8s
Also, Geoff Lawton's videos are very informative.

If you are urban/suburban and can't do that kind of stuff where you are, doing things like picking up 18th century skills is helpful, as well as learning about who sympathetic doctors might be. Learning how to fix things would also be helpful.

Other urls found in this thread:

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I'm not saying that the world is going to end tomorrow, anons, just that the future looks dark. The left is better organized than we are, but we are more capable. We need to be the ones that people turn to when SHTF because we have our shit together and we know what
we are doing.

Let this /general/ be a thread of ideas and knowledge resources.

Oh, and I'm not normally going to tripfag. Only if somebody has a specific question for me in the future.

Zucchini lol

September 23rd

Zero Hour

Most advice is useless. Get some Venezuelans in here.

Also, learn to bake bread. Best skill you can have.

Learn to bake sourdough bread after making your own starter, user. Assume that nothing in the stores, like baker's yeast, will be readily available.

>The left is better organized than we are
Yeah right

How long a civ collapse btw?

Anybody here seriously contemplating making shoes?

In some ways, they are.

Take the damned hippies. They suck ass, but they also know shitloads about living cheaply growing food making shit etc. They don't know guns or have any sense, but otherwise they're pretty good. They even have instant tribal recognition, which you probably don't.

Checked. And start to lift, faggots!

Who knows how long? But if we get into a civil war, the US Dollar is probably going to collapse, which means that we lose something like 1/3 of the oil that we consume in a hurry. Think about what that implies for the transport of goods.

No they don't, at least where I come from.
I myself was raised pretty conservative and I learned a lot about growing food etcetera. 'Hippies' I knew just knew how to smoke weed, not even how to grow it.

So anyway

Bread is the staff of life. All you need is flour water and salt. You can make a starter from that too, its all just the proportions.

Wheat is the civilising grain. It makes bread beer stimulates economies has architectures associated with its production can be used for demolitions even.

Learn from it

>The left is better organized than we are
What fucking planet are you living on!?

The ones where they have national networks to the point where their professionally made signs even look the same coast to coast, and our side is largely employed and has other shit to worry about.

here is a piece of technology that every user should study. watch the many tube videos on the subject and learn how to make and operate this device. It may save your ass once fuel for your car becomes impossible to get.

SHTF will never "happen" because it is always "happening".

Every rape
Every murder
Every robbery

is a drop in a tub. Nobody is going to drown you, you'll never be dunked, you'll just go to sleep one night with your nose JUST above the line and come up sputtering. It will take you a week of slow, agonizing sputtering before you can't come up anymore. Now picture this over a century or two.

The only thing you should be doing for SHTF is acquiring land and preserving it for future generations. Shit will never hit the fan in your lifetime.

Op is anitifa and very gay

bruh if i saw a thicc white bitch like that walking in my neigborhood me and my homies would take turns pounding that tight white ass with some big black dick

Jefferson isnt leftist.
They are dopers. That's ancap.

If you don't already know where the SHTF general in on this website then get the FUCK out you cocksucking neonewbladons

shut the fuck up nazi bitch

The left can hardly contain themselves from turning on each other. If they attempted anything close to a civil war, it would be less organised and make less sense than those idiots at the Evergreen college in Washington.

They would split into fractions and fight amongst themselves. There are a lot of confused white democrats and lefties with money that would find themselves having to fend off black and communist groups, Bernie fucks. That is actually their greatest weakness. They can't form a consensus on what they want and have massive in group fighting.

The idea that they could organize longer than 10 days is laughable, given a civil war. I'd bet many democrats would seek help from the right, and compromise on killing progressives and communists together with the right.

Identity politics is unraveling the left and is giving them a lack of focus. Fuck, they even hate white women, Asians, and gay white men now.

>hey also know shitloads about living cheaply growing food making shit
You're thinking of us dumbass country boys in flyover country

>Take the damned hippies.
you are making the assumption that all hippies are sympathetic to the modern SJW left.
>They don't know guns
again with the assumptions, most hippies oppose violence, do not confuse this with ignorance of weapons for self defense.

And WWI was going to be over by Christmas. Just because they'd get crushed in a toe-to-toe fight doesn't mean that they'll give you a toe-to-toe fight.

Had a DARPA Program Manager (i.e. you can find his picture and bio on darpa.mil) explain to me that they really are worried about what they call a "zombie invasion."

Zombies can come from any side, but the main idea is that there are a multitude of ways to get zombies to act as an army, even if it's not a very good one.

I'm not worried, though. I think enough of the right people will figure out what to do based on the situation if it comes to that.

youse guys are better at it

I would just wipe some yeast off your mom's vagina

we're more likely to share with friends too
I f the SHTF just come on over to Kansas

>when his mom's vagina is so cold it can't even make leavened bread with the yeast

this is great!

>bitcoin
>some physical gold/silver
>saiga AK
>~2000 rounds 7.62x39 saved away
>decent pantry/basement with lots of dry, canned, and nonperishable foods

I have another shitty .22 rifle and and a shitty revolver. I've been meaning to get myself a decent sidearm. I should also stock up on things like bic lighters that will be useful and tradeable.
I really do feel that the racewar is coming.

Don't forget you will need daily life items like clothes, ziploc bags to keep your lighters dry, bleach and other cleaning materials, razors, water to clean yourself in and to drink, flash lights, entertainment (would you go crazy without the internet?) etc.

>ak
At least get a firearm that uses 5.56 as well just in case. M4 or SCAR 16 (I myself have the 16 and 17)

you forgot food.

oh nvm

>the first SHTF General

You must've not been around when /innawoods/ threads would take place daily with good infographics and the like

but i'll contriboot with some saved relevant stuff

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bavian

> know shitloads about living cheaply growing food making shit etc
Maybe in the 60s. Today's hippies' version of growing food is buying organic products from the grocery store.

For the "zombie hypothesis" to be realistic, we will need prolonged disaster primarily via economic, or resource driven calamity. Not just brief, either. It would need to be prolonged a solid 6 months after 3 times promises it would go away failed to come to fruition.

This is not logical in our current situation. The lefties making good money aren't going to go to war or follow an army unless their necessary resources are threatened for prolonged periods. That goes the same for anyone with the ability to still feed themselves and their children. Zombies are created by many stressors, but it has to be a common pressure on the system.

Their asses will be first to go if they don't switch sides during a "gibs me dat" chimpout driven by progressives and socialists.

>This is the first SHTF General thread
Are you fucking joking?
Try lurking /k/ for awhile.

You don't think the military plans ahead, or that they develop technology to be useful for multiple possible purposes?

There won't be a civil war. The media is desperately trying to make things seem chaotic and on a knife edge, but people are mostly okay with things in the USA. A few mkultra patients might get activated and a few more losers might fire shots but as long as the right stays calm and focuses on winning in the ballot and law making everything will be fine.

Media wants you to think things are worse so you don't feel inspired by Trump to start working within the system. They want you off the grid acting crazy because that is no threat.

she went out into the field to grab a fresh dildo

Reread what I posted. I'm talking about getting all of the non-firearm shit squared away. So you have your AR and 10k rounds for it. WTF are you going to eat if the trucks stop delivering food to the stores? How are you going to deal with the other hungry people? What are you going to do if your shoes get fucked up and you can't get new ones because goods aren't being produced/shipped? Do you know how to tan leather or can you grind grains to make flour? What are you going to do if the power goes out for months and you don't have refrigeration? How about painkillers if your area is out of them? Antibiotics?

SHTF could be classified by our long Just In Time supply chains that we take for granted break. It's a lot more than just shooting at whatever faction is in front of you.

those threads were so comfy

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Reread my post again. Go and lurk /k/. You will find everything you want to know their. From medical procedures to farming techniques.

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i bought 6 zucchini today whats wrong with em

For noobs to canning, you only waterbath can acidic foods. If it's not acidic enough, you need to pressure can it to be safe. The spores for Clostridium botulinum can withstand higher temperatures than boiling water at one atmosphere of pressure.

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>tattoos

>General about shit hitting the fan
>Accompanies fat southern alcohol slut that would never survive in said climate and would probably drag you down with her
Fuck off retard, when SHTF you go to your bug out bunker on your own and with nonody else

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>making shit
No, they can't
They pay other people to do it

>Tfw been around long enough to remember when /out/ was actually fast and had good self sufficient threads

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Because looking up infographs on an anonymous Malawian Toe Nail Trimming imageboard is going to be of benefit when the shit hits the fan.

Neighbors had a housefire recently - I was talking to him the other day. Some advice
>keep your important docs in one place, know where it is and how to get to it quickly
>go bag - having dry tinder and a bowie knife doesn't do shit when you're standing out the front of your house in thongs and you don't have a jacket in mid winter.
Rather than try to cover every possibility try to plan ahead.
When are you going to need this stuff, where are you going to be and what are you going to be doing?

yeah, imma be eating beets and brassicas and fucking aubergines? what is this useless shit?

show me how to grow a burger and then we'll be talking

Remember to always have a deck of cards on you so when SHTF you can use the correct card as a calling sign that you're one of us

There's no fucking way she picked that cucumber from those tiny plants. Nice try.

I posted the following earlier this week for a 30 year old NEET leaf, who wanted to know where to start, since his current situation is close to 89% of you...

Okay prepping 101.

Money as we know it is going to be obsolete, but it is important for purchasing supplies, so get yourself a job or find a source of income quick. Don't bother on gold and silver it has no use.

LONG TERM GOALS:

Social:
* Make friends, you cannot do it alone. You need skilled and loyal people as things are going to get 100x harder.
* Be a better judge of character.
* Prepare yourself emotionally to not see your loved ones again (turmoil during collapse can cause anything to happen)
* Start a family

You want to buy useful land:
* Something you can farm on in the spring and summer.
* Something that has timber for fuel.
* Something that has water, ideally a deep well.
* Something far enough away from others, but close enough to get to if you are not permanently living in it when the collapse happens.

You want to learn a bunch of useful skills (not only for yourself, but to trade for other goods and services):
* Canning / Fermenting
* Hunting / Trapping / Tracking / Fishing
* Farming / Animal Husbandry
* Smithing / Carpentry / Mechanics


SHORT TERM GOALS:

Provisions:
* Firearms
* Ammunitions (at least 2000 rounds for each caliber of gun you have)
* Basic Tool kit (Hammer, nails, screw drivers, saw, etc)
* First Aid
* Rope
* Fire starters
* 3 months of food. Dry foods can be problematic because it will cause you to use more water to hydrate them and use a lot of fuel to boil the water.
* 3 months of drinking water
* 3 months of hygienic water

Currencies:
* Ammunitions
* Bic lighters
* Cigarettes
* Liquor
* Anything you think that people will want that will be difficult for them to produce on their own.

wtf we /diy/ now?

They are funded, trained and armed by evil Soros and the shadow government.

Bunkers(Underground & Underwater) & Islands are the best locations for SHTF.

archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/!!9O2tecpDHQ6/

tip- use empty glass bottles, ie wine bottles, to store water

glass stores better long term than plastic

I built a shelving unit just to store extra glass bottles in my old place. Good idea.

>underwater
what about when you need to order a new gasket?

Trying to slowly accumulate a week's worth of food stores.
It's actually on the small size in terms of prepping, but being unemployed, gonna do this slow and steady.

Start with stuff you're going to use anyway. Maybe that's frozen vegetables, canned good, moving on to dried beans and dried rice.

Work you way up. Be clever: when I had a big stash of canned vegetables, that doubled as a small bit of a water supply.

This is why the civil war will start with a complete failure of ebt payments.

i'd fire her for
>wearing nonword fitting clothing
>huge field chooses a 1 gallon max bucket for 1 zucc
>cowboy boots when leather sneakers are probably best
>tight skirt limits work
yeah 2/10 worker at best

already know a wide range of helpful things but
the second a collapse happens i'll probably be shit out of luck.

i'd try to take over a helipad if anything

>feminine penis