>Why do atheists insist on believing that everything was created due to a reaction between atoms and particles but not God?
>If there was no God, then "who" was behind all of those gigantic celestial which cover our universe?
>Why do all atheists believe that Religious people (specifically attacking Christian) are dumb when it's actually the opposite?
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I guess the earth is flat too right retard? Christians have been consistenly BTFO over the last 500 years by science but yeah i guess your latest refutation of science will be correct
>in the beginning there was nothing
>in the beginning there was god
pick one faggot
Atheism is the slowest growing religion (since they put their faith in other humans it is a religion) it's actually losing ground when compared to the growth of other religions in general.
Scientists have proven that nothing actually doesn't exist. Nothing weighs something, despite having no mass. The concept of nothing is an idea made by man. In natural laws, nothing doesn't exist.
Yeah biochemistry BTFO lmao. Human processes make no sense whatsoever thermodynamically
>Why do atheists insist on believing that everything was created due to a reaction between atoms and particles but not God?
God can't be measured
>If there was no God, then "who" was behind all of those gigantic celestial which cover our universe?
You keep insisting its a "who" when you could be asking "what"
>Why do all atheists believe that Religious people (specifically attacking Christian) are dumb when it's actually the opposite?
I don't but there are plenty of religious people who will keep insisting there's a gap in the knowledge when there isn't one. Ignorance≠Stupidity. You just need better arguments and talk points that are not being delivered by smug atheists.
Who on God's green Earth are you quoting?
I don't know if you knew this, but nothing is incredibly volatile. Now there's all this stuff everywhere, and we can't get enough nothing together in one spot to do big bang recreation experiments. Chemistry 101, fags.
so in the beginning there was nothing, and then there was god?
checkmate, christcuck fags
Strawman. They don't say that there was nothing. Go educate yourself, nu-fascist.
Answer the leaf faggot
youtube.com
This basically explains everything. This thread can be pruned.
existence itself is a mindfuck no matter how you look at it
Nazi worshipping kike prophet...irony
We're likely to die out as a species before we understand the nature and origin of the universe. That doesn't mean God ever existed. Demanding someone explain the origin and nature of the universe to refute your theory is assinine and intellectually dishonest. Furthermore, there's more observation based evidence to refute an omnipotent being than there is to refute the big bang
Its not a religion anymore then abstinence is a sex position.
Nah since the big bang can actually be measured but our expanding universe
The god hypthesis has now evolved into something 'beyond the physical' it can be neither proven nore disproven as much as the 'were a brain in jar theory' that being said its pointless since how can you you disprove something where the believe keeps saying "well uh hes outside time and space"
You should probobly look up who formulated the big bang theory.
>Why do atheists insist on believing that everything was created due to a reaction between atoms and particles but not God?
Because this is what the physical evidence and reasoned logic points towards.
The earth is not a thermodynamically closed system.
Atheism has nothing to do with believing the big bang happened. Try again.
"Atheism is a religion" is the shittiest mental and semantic gymnastics to ever plague the internet and anyone who thinks this way needs to drown themselves in bleach
God is a the only possible and relevant explanation to the beginning of the universe. Your ((science)) makes no sense and is a pile of bullcrap.
>Why do atheists insist
You think the Priest who came up with the Big Bang theory was an atheist? All early astronomers were clergymen.
Not like gregor mendel was a priest or anything
>Christians have been consistenly BTFO over the last 500 years by science but yeah i guess your latest refutation of science will be correct
The creator of the Big Bang theory was a priest and Christians were really the pioneers of science.
Georges Lamaitre wasn't one either.
No one has proof as to what happened
The Big Bang was proven by the discovery of cosmic background radiation. Then the LHC recreated it. The only thing that remains unproven is if something existed before the Big Bang or if the Big Bang was the creation of the universe.
Nothing means "no thing." By definition, the concept of nothing means there is no being. And if there is no being, there is nothing to which you can attribute volatility. Don't be retarded, user.
Why the fuck does Christianity and Islam have to be the antithesis of science and empirical evidence? You guys clinging to archaic beliefs are no different than the sand niggers that blow themselves up for 100 virgins.
Science invokes an inherently unprovable "le multiverse" hypothesis to explain the big bang and perfect fine tuning of the universe, and ridicules theists for believing a form of consciousness (consciousness being something we actually know exists) might be responsible for creation.
What empirical evidence do you know of that refutes an eternal being?
>God existed forever
>But the universe
>God literally sat around for an eternity before deciding to create the universe
Hmm
Basically nothing is a refugee, just explodes at random but its nothing.
>Captcha: Calle Stop
I think we getting a help request here.
The "God Hypothesis" has always been beyond the physical as it argues for a transcendent being. If you've read any of the classics, you'll know this.
This is the part that jams me up the most desu. WTF was BEFORE the Big Bang blows me away.
>thinks God is a human who experiences boredom
Eternity doesn't mean "lots of time lol" retard. Time is a physical property and only came into being at the creation of the universe, just like all the other physical properties and rules.
>Atheism is the slowest growing religion
atheism isnt a religeon you moron.
atheist dont believe in any god so b their very nature their not a religeon.
The amount if deluded religious people on this board makes me sad. These are the people who discuss important political issues. Get off your fat ass and go learn about your suroundings.
For an entity that existed before time, yeah he technically did exist for eternity before doing anything. But if you think it's nuts that how is the "singularity" any crazier? some unthinking thing sitting around forever until deciding to create the universe? Oh wait, it's not intelligent... so...
>Hurr, if science hasn't figured it out yet, the answer is god.
Patience grasshopper.
Problem of infinite regress is somehow resolved by a "who" for some reason. >Special pleading at its finest.
Trying to rationalize faith seems like a waste of time anyways no?
Well it could be that the Big Bang is simply the mechanism of how matter is created and something existed before it. Or even that there is an endless cycle of creation where multiple universes have been created by multiple big bangs. The actual creation of everything could have come from something else and the endless cycle of big bangs is the result of creation not just the cause of it.
>Why do atheists believe in Big Bang but not God?
Because everything except the early parts in the explosion hypothesis can be described mathematically and verified, so it makes sense,
Nothing about "God" makes sense.
Someone that awesome should be able to explain who it is and what it wants,
so people can stop fighting between each other about which imaginary friend to trust.
Failing that, he can't even compete with a physicist.
faith =/= conviction
What constitutes "nothing" is not well understood.
The universe may well be some sort of particle
Atheist here, it is clear that you have no understanding of science what so ever
>Statement no.1: What the fuck are you even saying? Look at this link, you dumbfuck science.nasa.gov
>Again, more retarded bullshit. We have proof that this was created from the big bang. Another thing
>Oh god, it is the opposite, at least if you live in the U.S.
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there are literaly hunderd of thousands of religions almost all have some version of hell for dis believers.
god is in all likelihood not the abrahamic one.
I believe if the big bang happened, that is was designed by God to have a specific outcome.
I hate you fucking niggers who deny science based on some 2000 year old book written by goat herders. Another thing is that the earth is not 6000 years old. Did you ever pay attention to science class? Or were you too busy fucking your sisters and saying grace at the table.
We're all dumb compared to the universe of knowledge. We don't know what's not revealed to us.
>endless cycle of big bangs
This explanation is crazy too because it says time is eternal, time never actually started at some point and there is no end. Everything just ... is?
A singularity is not nothing
I'm no longer interested in arguing religion. You'd have to be extremely retarded to lose an argument when you are on the side which defends a being that is omnipotent and has no limits.
The idea of a God as a magic skyman fucking with human beings is ridiculous and obviously egocentric to the humans producing the lore. The odds of this happening are astronomically low, but if it is not a probability of zero, it probably HAS and WILL HAPPEN infinitely across space time somewhere in an infinite multiverse.
Despite that however, mathematically, the likelihood of a sentience creating all of what we exist within is much higher than it happening randomly out of nothing, which is what atheism (in our universe at least) argues for.
However, all are possible (and more than likely have happened infinitely and infinitely repeatedly across space time in an infinite multiverse) and are both valid explanations for our universe as we can't tell which one is correct. The big mystery for our universe is which one of these, or infinitely many other reasons is the reason for our universe's existence.
Except the people who did the work to discover that science and come up with things like the Big Bang theory were religious.
Even if the universe had a creator, they are no longer interacting with us, and so it's pointless to worship them.
There was no before. It's as stupid of an argument for a scientist as "who created God" is for a theist. TIME didn't exist before the big bang.
so what was the complete orgin point of the universe? did it all just come out of nothingness?
even the big bang has a creation point. youre denying science too as something cannot be created out of nothing mandated by the laws of thermodynamics.
en.wikipedia.org
I believe that, regardless of whether or not we know that explanation, a rational explanation exists for everything. And why does there have to be a "who" behind the universe?
Yeah, but when Krauss is in the room, nobody else can be because his ego pushes everybody out. It's yuge.
The universe is omnipotent and has no limits. The guy who came up with the Big Bang theory believed in an omnipotent God without limits.
So we say "there was nothing and then there was something". And you say "there was nothing, then there was God, then there was something". Isn't that more stupid?
>TIME didn't exist before the big bang
Just like that, from a singularity, a Big Bang happened from nowhere and here we are. Still blows me away.
There's technically no logical case to uphold Atheism until or unless humanity can discover what came , was, or occurred before the big bang. Which is basically impossible (at this moment)
In any sense of logic the universe existing is an unexplainable phenomenon and the simplest answer is that the answer to why existence exists is ridiculously far out and complex. Most people stop looking for impossible answers and conclude that there has to be a higher form of life, quite the logical conclusion when faced with so much evidence yet to be found.
It could have. Creation could have preceded the Big Bang as the Big Bang was only the creation of our universe. No one knows what existed or didn't exist before it.
I love the revisionist history nu-athiests pull when they try pretend the Big Bang theorists weren't staunch Christians and that the oscillating model wasn't the hill athiests chose to die on.
According to string theory, there might be other dimensions we're not aware of, and the big bang was just an event that happened in that higher-dimensional realm.
en.wikipedia.org
Even if "nothing actually can't come out of nothing" (even thought that means nothing until we define what "nothing" is(n't)) that doesn't prove your particular religione, whatever it is.
you can believe in whatever but when you try to control people by telling them they are "going to hell" or by stoning them to death for breaking a rule in a 2000 year old book then you have a problem
Straw-man at its best.
Big Bang theory is invented and forced by crypto-christ-fags.
As the matter of fact, in the beginning there was nothing.. and then it evolved more and more anisotropous during the infinite ammount of time.
The oscillating model of the universe (endless cycles) has been found broken in no less than four attempts by mathematicians.
It's a good theory, but it's unfounded. For whatever reason the Universe is, and completely unique unless another Big Bang is occurring a distance away we can't even comprehend.
>Sup Forums is so stupid that this isn't even bait
>As the matter of fact, in the beginning there was nothing.. and then it evolved more and more anisotropous during the infinite ammount of time.
Nothing, if left alone long enough, gradually turns into dinosaurs?
There is such a thing as a false vacuum collapse though. The current energy level of the vacuum might not be the lowest, and if a lower-energy vacuum is created anywhere in the universe, it would spread out at the speed of light, destroying everything and essentially creating a new universe. Perhaps that's what the Big Bang was, and it may happen again.
en.wikipedia.org
Most arguments with atheists consist of "you're an idiot, I'm smarter than you" non-arguments like your previous comment, and strawman arguments based on the most moronic, childish conception of religion. I respect atheists like Sam Harris who actually debate religion in an intelligent way, most do not.
I am christian as you but this logic hast a mayor mistake:
Even god needs to be created from "somewhat" How can there be nothing? Oh, god COULD exist from nothing? Why not big band from nothing?
God didn't come from nothing because he was never created. He is an eternal being. He is, unconditionally, the I Am.
>I respect atheists like Sam Harris who actually debate religion in an intelligent way, most do not.
You mean he who presents everything on the level of a 5 year old?
yhea i can see how that would appeal to the superstitious
Because God is supernatural, the force that sets the rules, laws and everything in motion.
BB we have no clue why it occurred, but we can measure its effects and physics of the event. It's a thing of the universe, it IS the universe, the big G is not.
so why It cant be some expanding and descendeing universe, that also is eternal? What if that is the definition of god, the everything?
>He is, unconditionally, the I Am
Please explain.
Because the Oscillating theory has yet to find a mathematical model that doesn't implode on itself.
Yes. Because the sequence of derivatives is infinite, in the infinite times it doesn't matter how close to zero those derivatives are, movement grows, and conservation laws are illusion (because our ruler shrinks. and so do we, that's why it seems to us that galaxies expand. which is lies. the galaxies we observe move towards one another)
Quantum pairs that did not annihilate each other in a false vacuum created the universe. After the heat death when every particle is infinitely far away from any another particle, it will happen again. The quantum micro particles that arise out of this vacuum will have no space to contain it so it expands infinitely in all directions giving rise to the universe again.
They... feel good man.
They also probably feel intelligent.
Better question: who gives a shit?
>Why do all atheists believe that Religious people (specifically attacking Christian) are dumb when it's actually the opposite?
Because Jews say its edgy and fashionable.
And we did not kill all the socialists that followed them.
Buddhism is an atheistic religion so it is correct to label western atheism as a religion.
> Lol look at my shitty strawman pic
> atheism btfo
Then we get to the question
>Why do atheists insist on believing that everything was created due to a reaction between atoms and particles but not God?
Because we actually know atoms and particles exist
>If there was no God, then "who" was behind all of those gigantic celestial which cover our universe?
I guess there must be a who, because you formulated your question that way.
>Why do all atheists believe that Religious people (specifically attacking Christian) are dumb when it's actually the opposite?
Well if you're so sure, good for you?
this
Me ..it was me who did it....umm you're welcome or I'm sorry ..that's up to you.
Depends on the sect. Many believe humans come back as gods to instruct humanity.
>Buddhism is an atheistic religion
Not exactly.
Budddhism just does not believe in an anthropomorphic ideation of God.
>science is a jewish conspirancy
people can't be this supid
>Big Bang
>Atheist
This. My mind gets blown to shreds everytime I think about it. I love it.
"All As are B"
"Therefore all Bs are A"
Man, this is basic level logic you're failing at. This assumes that your premises are even true, which they're not, buddhism is not all atheistic.