Hey, does anyone wish for a united earth, sometimes. We need a government that can get us to space...

Hey, does anyone wish for a united earth, sometimes. We need a government that can get us to space, and advance humanity, not keep it down (like the far right and far left are doing right now).
>I am a democratic socialist who puts emphasis on science.

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Talk to Africa they're the ones with spaceships and shit, apparently.

The problem is that different races differ in cognitive abilities. Uniting with sub saharan Africa would bring no benefit, for instance.

smoke weed every day

I'm in your camp, user. I want to get to space and shit.

kek.
I politely disagree.
Hippie bullshit is also bringing us down.
My dude.

>I politely disagree.
You politely disagree against facts and reality? This is why you belong in the loony bin.

There is proof that they are human, my friend. We all are human. It is just their culture holding them back.

>There is proof that they are human, my friend. We all are human.
Sure, nobody's saying they're a different species. But all the scientific evidence points to their average IQ being somewhere between 70 and 80. If you deny that, you're denying science, and you're no better than a creationist.

>It is just their culture holding them back.
Culture is a reflection of genes.

Stop watching sci fi movies. We aren't at the stage of interstellar travel yet; figure out your shit at home before you take on the world. The strongest group deserves to traverse the cosmos, not some amalgum of compromise.

Fight it out on earth, allow the victor to be at the helm of cosmic expansion

Oh, I thought you were saying that they weren't human. Good. It is such a shit region. It needs to be integrated. If we could give them opportunities, then they may prosper, but only under someone else rule, in my opinion.

there are too many niggers on this planet. if we didn't spend so much money on welfare, aids, ebola, etc, we'd be a type 1 civilization by now

We're a solid 2-3 centuries before the planet can "Unite" there's far far too many problems.

Not only that, but we can't allow ourselves to fall for the un-elected malicious-elite controlled narrative of one world globalism.

Space is a fantasy when we need to focus on restoring our nation-states back to uniformed individual power/success, emphasizing the greater good of the future.

Then and only then can we earn our way to the next level of outer worldly expansion.

It's not a race, democratic capitalism with the emphasis of empathy and brotherhood will be the only way to truly step above the corrupt world of authoritarian collectivism that 'ideological politics' has given us.

It's time we started thinking like the elite for mutual/benevolent and true success in the future. The answer to that is setting very long term goals in improving the human state of self.

Space is point Z.
We're at point A.

Lead the way today so in 7 generations our descendants can ensure the future for Earth and assurance of outer worldly expansion.

Saviors of the white race will leave earth with a bunch of smart qt asians, leaving behind the planet to douse in radiation with niggers, beaners and dune coons.

Neo-whiteys and their asian whores will come back about a thousand years later to witness genetic mutations that turned niggers into gigantic Jurassic era type creatures and the other two races are nowhere to be scene, besides some type of sheep/human hybrid hanging around the middle east that Niggozaurs like to hunt.

At this point we will beam this planet to the KEK dimension and trade it with our god for a couple pounds of antimatter, whom we managed to contact after leaving the solar system's shield blocking off incoming alien communications. This shield was actually personally discovered by Alex Jones and revealed in his now delet video he posted the night before he was assassinated by Israel.

Fun fact WW3 was actually a war of many allied countries against jews, sadly shekel infused programs to improve surveillance technology had made the state so powerful that it was decided by a small team that earth had to be left behind. Fighting them was a waste of time, this earth was doomed and we let them die on it.

>It is such a shit region. It needs to be integrated.
That's the thing, "integration" would spell disaster. Just look at blacks whether they live in America, Latin America, Europe, or even Asia nowadays. They're always the most poor, uneducated and criminal group. And the real reason for that is not that the various countries they inhabit are all "racist", but that blacks aren't smart enough to compete in a technologically advanced society.

"Integrating" them, with their high birthrates, would mean that after a few generations the whole world would look like the Congo. And then you can say goodbye to your dreams of exploring Mars. Heck, you can say goodbye to a functioning electricity grid and running water.

You need communism for that, otherwise you will have nuclear war between who's imbecile religion is better, who's idiotic country is better, etc etc

We need a technocracy before that's even remotely possible

Sorry, too many idiots and parasites alive for your utopia to become reality, perhaps after we crash and burn.

No I won't. Science fiction is a good genre. Anyways, all of humanity should be united.
My sides
I am a democratic socialist. I have grown disillusioned with communism slightly because of antifa vulgarians.

Hitler was years ahead in space exploration and rocket science. If we revived the third Reich and didn't let degeneracy bog our society down, we could go so much farther

Space sucks make this home work first.

>My sides
His scenario is way more likely to happen than yours.

Fuck space. Humans living in space? Sorry, nerd, you are going to find that there isn't fucking shit out there, and living there will be pretty much impossible/suckdick/stupid dangerous

Humans will NEVER meet ET. Your faggot day dreams that mimic America scifi and dime store novels will never come into fruition.

There is no running away.

>Anyways, all of humanity should be united.
Why do you keep bleating that like a sheep?

Yes, but the world won't be ready for it for centuries. Trying to force it now would just destroy everything.

But who's idiotic dictator is better? :^)

If we want to get to space then we need nationalism, not a united Earth. Only nationalism can produce the competition and willpower to take us to space.

>there isn't fucking shit out there

There is definitely shit out there. We literally left some on the moon.

>ywn crash a space colony into earth

I consider you both the same. Beggars of "free stuff", unwilling to do the violence necessarily to actually steal those resources.

We need to bring life there first if we are to go.

I used too. I used to wish for a utopian Star Trek society. But Utopia is the ultimate peace, and the only true peace for mankind is the peace of the grave. The only thing that will drive us into space is competition.

I didn't want to feel this feel today
S-SEIG ZEON

I realize that humanity must fight for true peace, and it is something which I am willing to do. We need to focus on science. Lots of focus, as this is our future.

you're a parody of the slogan spouting libturd brainlet

>humanity needs to unite
>science is good
>let's end wars
lmao

Unless we develop FTL (which might not even be possible) we likely will have to settle for terraforming Mars, Venus, Mercury, Titan, Callisto, Ganymede, Europa, Enceladus, and Ceres.

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As long as it's really science that subjects everything to the rigors of the scientific method and not "Science!" which says there are 31 genders and has a children's tv host with a bachelor's degree as its spokesman.

Your goals are mutually exclusive. If you truly want to focus on science, then you should want humanity to be constantly at war. It is war that accelerates scientific progress.

I'm very uninformed on the topic of space travel, what is FTL, and is terraforming mars/moon possible?

The crossover in this pic disturbs me for some reason
THIS IS NOW A ZEON REMNANTS THREAD
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I agree with the redneck. You know, I am skeptical on the whole "there are more than two genders" thing. I need more research before I can make a rational, informed opinion. Also, hey, Bill Nye helped spark my interest in science, although I would have someone like Neil Degrasse Tyson as the leader, or anyone else. It is sad that the SJW's are taking over the March for Science movement.

I'm starting to think that competition's effectiveness in reaching new heights is primarily effective in western countries where freedom of thought and creativity flourishes. Japan does amazing well bc it adopted western culture but the rest of the world is so backwards that they need to be dictated to get anything done

No. You are just one of those utilitarian dip shits who thinks "muh greater good". Fuck off.

I say there is objective morality. Stealing is always wrong, murder is wrong. You wanting some greater goal like space travel does not justify whatever fucked up anti-family, decivilizing programs.

Government programs that pays retards at NASA not to build anything useful, that pays SpaceX to put stupid shit in space that is not needed at all. ISS is a waste of time and resources.
Government that incentivizes women to not seek out good husbands, to seek out divorce. A government that protects people from their immoral actions and thus, encourages it. A state that replaces family.

You don't fucking get it do you? Your space socialism is what got us here. Subhuman invested cities full of high time preference ingrates who should have never been born.

"Unity, Equality, Progress and peace". What you want, and what you will get will look the opposite. The weak and pathetic will be encouraged to breed at higher rates, and dysgenics will keep mankind from being civilized let alone go into space.

>Also, hey, Bill Nye helped spark my interest in science, although I would have someone like Neil Degrasse Tyson as the leader, or anyone else. It is sad that the SJW's are taking over the March for Science movement
Holy fuck man, please kill yourself

FTL stands for Faster Than Light travel. Basically, it is impossible to go faster than the speed of light according to our current understanding of physics, and the amount of energy to get closer and closer to the speed of light itself exponentially grows the closer you gets.

Terraforming Mars is possible, with lots of effort. Terraforming the Earth's moon is also possible, albeit temporarily (it would require constant work to keep it terraformed) and it would require even more effort, and generally not be worth it.

>get us to space, and advance humanity
Shut the fuck up, liberal. No metastasis for the human race. Progress is nothing more than your version of primordial debt.

United in what way? One ethnic nationality? A federation of separate
ethnic nations?

Why do people assume a united human race will do better than a divided one? Humanity works best when it's competitive (it's a driver of innovation).

Either way, we are working on space colonization. Everyone knows about SpaceX's Mars colonization goal, but we're also working on getting shit done on the Moon also. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Gateway

>ahm a global communist piece of shit shill
Fuckoff

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>ywn live in the Gundam universe where nearly everyone is white or oriental on both Earth and in Space
>ywn fly giant mech suits in the name of the Earth Federation or the Principality of ZEON
>You WILL live to see your country destroyed by traitors in your own government
Why fucking live?

>I say there is objective morality. Stealing is always wrong, murder is wrong.
The definitions of those terms is necessarily contextual. Every society rationalizes its own particular practices of taking property and life from others.
>Humanity works best when it's competitive (it's a driver of innovation).
Aw fuck, here come the summerfags trying to sell their first year in college as being worth what their parents paid for it.
Material waste is always higher in competition. It's a waste of time and effort, really. Economists need to shut the fuck up and stop pretending their priesthood is any more valuable than my certificate from the Universal Life Church or something they got out of a Cracker Jack box.

How can mars be terraformed, out of curiosity?
>also
Really meme tier, but would teleportation ever be possible, or does that count as FTL?
SIEG

Yes I agree, we need a (((united Earth government))) preferably with a powerful paramilitary force to keep those goddamn white spacegoys in line.

FTL is the acronym for "Faster Than Light." Warp drive in Star Trek, hyperdrive in Star Wars. As we understand physics now, the speed of light is the hard speed limit of the universe. With sufficiently advanced theoretical propulsion, like nuclear fusion powered engines, it might be possible to travel at significant fraction of the speed of light. Distances between stars are measured in light years, the number of years it takes light to travel a given distance. The closest started to ours is Alpha Centauri which is 4.367 light years away. Assuming we could build an engine capable of traveling at 1/4 the speed of light (not possible with current technology) it would take a little over seventeen and a half years to reach Alpha Centauri the fastest manned object ever built was the Apollo Saturn V which reached velocities of 24393.79 miles per hour. At that speed it would take 137k years to reach Alpha Centauri. So without enormous advances in technology, we aren't leaving the solar system anytime soon. Terraforming is a term for the theoretical process of converting marginally uninhabitable world's, such as Mars, into earth like planets by introducing oxygen, plant and animal life. This is also beyond our current technology.

>Gas colonies
>my Sydney diary
>phony colony drop
>Gundam MK II
user, I love you

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>but would teleportation ever be possible
Theoretically, if we could create negative matter (which is something that does not currently exist and we have no knowledge of how to create it), we could open up a wormhole and go through that, which is pretty close to teleportation.

For FTL travel, we could theoretically make space itself "bend" to form a sort of "wave" pushing us forward faster than light, but once again, the knowledge of how to do this is non-existent.

Personally, I think both are impossible, because of Fermi's Paradox.

What is fermi's paradox?
Oh my god, these a great hahahaha

Believe it or not, most of us rednecks have a grounding in the physical sciences through what you might call practical application. One job a construction company had to do was to decorate the concrete face of a dam. To do this, the lake behind the dam had to be drained to a certain level well below the spillways. While the engineers were trying to figure out a pump system, the construction foreman went out and bought a lot of 12" PVC pipe and a basket ball. The pipe was assembled with one end in the lake to the level it needed to be drained. The other side was place over the low side of the dam. The basketball was placed in the low side and inflated, sealing the end. Then a garden hose fitting was attached at the top of the pipe and the whole thing was filled with water. Once full, the foreman went to the low end and stabbed the basketball with a knife. The siphon action drained the lake in two days.

>What is fermi's paradox?
Basically, the universe is a really fucking big place, so if there were aliens, we should have contacted at least some of them by now. After all, all it takes is one alien race to get super advanced for them to start colonizing everything and spreading throughout the stars.

People have different theories for why this is. Some say we're the only ones out here, some say the aliens all end up killing themselves before they can colonize other planets, some say that the aliens are actually so advanced that they're communications don't pick up our archaic radio devices.

My theory is that faster-than-light travel simply isn't possible, so the aliens simply can't colonize more than their own solar system, and eventually their sun will go supernova, killing all of them.

Mostly. China was advancing by leaps and bounds until they were unified under a single ruler. Japan is kind of a special case because they had enforced isolation with the death penalty for breaking it. But Western civilization, especially during the colonial period was pretty Damn fruitful.

This is my last Wyatt Mann edit.

>we need a global goberment goyim
Nah we need hitler back again thats it

Either c or the Shannon limit would put the kibosh on teleportation of objects.
>what is fermi's paradox
- There are billions of stars in the galaxy that are similar to the Sun,[2][3] many of which are billions of years older than Earth.[4][5]
- With high probability, some of these stars will have Earth-like planets,[6][7] and if the Earth is typical, some might develop intelligent life.
- Some of these civilizations might develop interstellar travel, a step the Earth is investigating now.
- Even at the slow pace of currently envisioned interstellar travel, the Milky Way galaxy could be completely traversed in a few million years.[8]
Fermi's Paradox: Then where are they?
iow, if they were possible we would have been visited by now.

A united humanity wouldn't be a terrible thing if we found aliens, but otherwise it would just lead to stagnation. It's the same reason capitalism works better than communism, competition drives growth, and likewise nations need other nations to compete with so that they strive to reach new heights in their attempts to outdo each other.

>Why do people assume a united human race will do better than a divided one? Humanity works best when it's competitive (it's a driver of innovation).
What's funny is that if go back and watch the original Star Trek, this message is all over the series. Every other episode, Kirk talks about how many was meant to struggle. That man only achieved greatness through struggle and competition.

You think the Cold War censors would have let anything else by?

no because i dont believe in the satanic new world order ,or space. "alien" demons are coming to deceive the world and unite humanity in a new world order


Genesis 1:14-15
14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

A Star Close Up
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This user is right if anyone is getting us to space it will the kangz of earth.

Japan is the most incredible case study of western democratization that the world has ever seen.

The United States dropped two of the most devastating weapons ever conceived on them. Forty years later, and the country they helped rebuild practically rivaled them economically. Even today, Japan remains a scientific, economic, and cultural powerhouse.

Truly a miracle.

As long as the government is controlled by Jews and everyone else and all their offspring are forever servants of jews then yes. yes yes yes we need to do this now. Going to space is totally worth being slave to jews.

A united earth would only work if we all shared progressive values. They are all too busy defending Islam at the moment, 1 step forward an 5 back.

>How can mars be terraformed, out of curiosity?
It would take centuries. Saturn's rings are mostly water ice, so we'd probably start by "bombing" Mars with big chunks of Saturn's rings. Then once there was enough water, introduce blue green algae to start converting Mars' 95% Co2 atmosphere to Oxygen. Then once there O2 content was high enough, introduce more advanced plants and animals. We'd also have to figure out how to thicken the atmosphere. Probably by mining gasses from the gas giants and transferring it. It would be a centuries long project.

Yes but only under International Socialism

>does anyone wish for a united earth

No.

>We need a government that can get us to space
>not keep it down (like the far right

Only nationalist right governments will get us into space.

Your (((United Nations))) will shoot down any goy spaceships trying to escape their slavery.

My ancestors have died and sacrificed everything to create this country.

Just the idea of an united Iberian country sickens me, I don't even want to think about a united world.

>United earth
>We need a government that can..
Fuck no! Governments are shit as is, and having a monopoly on government... Monopolies are shit.
Your only hope of a united earth would be an ancap society.

We've actually made anti matter (anti hydrogen) in supercolliders before. Understandably, it wasn't much, and it didn't stick around long.

I have a feeling that this user is right, but it would have to be under specific circumstances regarding the psychology, intent, and spread of alien life.

If the extraterrestrials are similar to us, they may encourage economic and societal competition between our species, if we come to a peaceful agreement.

If they're very different to us, things could easily become hostile. We practically have no way of predicting alien psychology outside of what we can gain from our planet's own organisms, but even then, there are some strange customers sharing our atmosphere.

That's all assuming that the aliens are roughly at the same technological level as us, which is very unlikely.

IF all the richest people shared their wealth all over with everyone, then, MAYBE the earth could be united. Until then, not a chance.

Recoat, not decorate.

I disagree, but not for the reasons he does.

If we unite, we can use africans as slaves to mine materials for us, that we can use.

It does not mean they should be considered equals.

There's more than one type of globalism.

If I had one wish, it would be to give mankind a God that is irrefutably real; something to fear and revere that humanity can rally under for a common purpose.

That purpose would be to define everything. Mankind is unique (at least in what we know of the universe so far) in that it can ascribe meaning and definition to objects in the universe. A star would exist with or without us, but it would not be called a star were it not for us.

Therefore, I believe it is humanity's duty to explore the universe and ascribe definition to literally everything.

Virtually all of mankind's achievements in space came as a direct result of nation-states competing against one another.

If the world's wealth was shared evenly, everyone would be poor.

Kill the bottom 70% of the species with an engineered bioweapon and then we can start talking about communism.

luckily lucifer is coming to unite the world and do just that and give you guys a common god

unfortunately he gives you the mark of the beast which dooms your soul to hell

sounds like youre all prepped and ready

Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

>We need a government

Aaand thats whete u went wrong ( the problem cant be the solution )

United by the white race. Once all Khazar jews and niggers are annihilated, and we finish what the conquistadors started and make Earth a white planet, only then can we unite.

imagine all the people, no possesions no violence.

>john lenon was a communist. why did they kill him?

Nigger, if the wealth was shared equally across every human on this planet, each person may only have $3.50 in US shekels, if even that, to buy everything they needed for themselves.

We don't need a one world government to do that. We can fucking build shit ourselves and cooperate through trades and agreements

>democratic
>socialist
McFucking kys

This is where you're going to lose most of the people here, and I have to say, I'm included in them.

I don't think the situation is easy enough that you can apply such broad strokes to people so uniformly. Plenty of people are rich because they worked hard to become so. Plenty of people are poor because of their own complacency. Of course corruption exists that allows unfair success to some, but working off of this assumption completely disregards all others.

I would argue that governments and programs across the world be developed to encourage independence and responsibility, instead of acceptance of wealth from others and, essentially, entitlement. Teach a man to fish.

There will always be government, nigger. Anarchy of any sort literally just temporarily wipes the slate clean until some kike with the most resources declares control on all the locals. Unless you are the only person on the planet, there will always be government, because there will always be someone more powerful than another, whether it's a single family unit, a crowd, a tribe, or several billions of people. Government literally exists because, as we all know, nobody's equal.

Just have the niggers design and manufacture the space craft.

Anti-matter or negative matter? Keep in mind these are two separate things. Anti-matter basically explodes when it comes into contact with normal matter, whereas negative matter would just behave weirdly. For example, if you dropped a negative matter block, it would actually go up, away from the Earth, because the gravity would be pushing on it instead of pulling on it.

Thanks, Jesus.