The holocaust denial I see here is a meme right? Nobody is actually stupid enough to deny the holocaust happened?

The holocaust denial I see here is a meme right? Nobody is actually stupid enough to deny the holocaust happened?

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I don't give a fuck about "Did the holocaust happen?" so much as I ask "what happened?"

>Jews in camps?
Happened
>Typhus and starvation in 1945
Sure happened
>Lampshade of Jew skin
nope
>jew fat soap
sorry
>Gas chambers
try again, please

never happened

It's just a meme bro

define the holocaust. explain why you think holocaust denial makes you stupid.

no it's not, go and read "the tell the truth and shame the devil" and "the leuchter report"

Holocaust denial is a form of bullying. Only schizophrenic people or muslims or retards could possibly deny the holocaust for real.

Even if it did happen, it should have.

Why is it do hard to believe these things, because your basement boy mind wants to protect itself from the nature of man?
Weak!

Hitler didn't set out to systematically kill all the Jews, but he should have.

Incoming 1 IP post by OP.

FPBP!

It's not a meme shlomo. It never happend

Oy vey only stupid people and bigots deny the holohoax goys.

This

No

Because they couldn't kill 6 million jews even if they killed 2500 a day every single day for 6 years straight

In this place you will find holocaust denials that on the other hand firmly believe 9999999999 billions dead by communism.

define the holocaust. explain why you think holocaust denial makes you a bully and a retard.

The red cross proved it as bullshit.
The kikes use it to play victim. They like it that way, which is why the kikes who own all media never gave you a real jew superhero

it is war faggot what did you think, camps are vacation place?

>The holocaust denial I see here is a meme right? Nobody is actually stupid enough to deny the holocaust happened?

Welcome newfriend.

Embrace the stupid - Pro-nazi lies and distortions abound here on Sup Forums

And why do you think this would be an impossible feat? LOL
I guess by that logic the communists hasn't killed about 100 million either because muh high numbers

youtube.com/watch?v=2a_cmbi3iIg
Hitler mentioned about a billion times he wanted to remove the jews, warned them etc

i dont deny that it happened its just that alot of the holocaust is pure nonsense like the lampshades/soapbars made out of human flesh and the death toll numbers.

also explain why being skeptical about an event in history especialy one like the holocaust is being "stupid"? it means youre not a gulleble idiot who takes everything by face valeu.

>muh six gorillion

What did Kek mean by this thread?

get the fuck out

youtube.com/watch?v=WQTWsm0tYBM

I personally belive around 10,000 jews died so no I don't deny the holocaust.

Why should I mourn the death of a jew more than a german, russian, brit, jap or a burger?

never mind that is worth 6months of starvation in that pick, If they were starved at the start of the war they would never had needed to been gassed and would have been much cheaper and efficient for the Germans to do.

Do he sent them to America and the UK you fucking dumbass. Why would he waste resources killing them during a multi front war?

*so

>remove the biggest enemy of mankind at the top of your power
hmmm

when people say they deny the holocause they mean there were no systematic death camps.
there were no systematic death camps.

It happened, just not the way you think it did. In particular, the 6 million figure, gas chambers, and burning bodies in ovens are lies.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
and he have them the chance to leave natsoc germany strange huh?.

It's just a Smallocaust

they had longer than six years..

noone is denying the holocaust completely, i think everbody here agrees that jews had a bad time in NS europa. they were persecuted, thousands shot on the eastern front and probably 150.000-1mio died in the camps.. but mostly of malnutrition and diseases.

we just dont buy into the hollywood propaganda of the evil sadistic germans gassing and burning millions of jews, and shooting them at sight without any reason for fun (schindlers list etc). making soap and lamps out of them.. that is just ridiculous propaganda.
do your rearch. you will realise that is just not possible physically and logistically.

even the official telling shows that these high numbers are very unrealistic: the official death toll for auschwitz was 4 million at first.. then 2 and then in the end 1 million while the 6 GORILLION didnt change at all.

>everything I don't like is a meme
(you)

lol there are like a billion narratives anyway
>there weren't enough jews to kill, there were like 4 million jews in europe
>there rest all immigrated to israel and USA
>their population didn't change tho, i saw it in this obscure encylopedia from 1946 when it wasn't sure how many of them were killed!

The communists shot their's and threw them in ditches, also mass starvation. The Nazis gassed and cremated 6 million people in about a year and a half allegedly. And that's walking it back from 'they had holocoasters and turned people into lampshades and masturbation machines and or elaborate deathtraps' which was the mantra for years after the war and survives in various 'totally true accounts of the holocaust'

...

Even Benjamin Netenyahu has admitted that he Nazis never had any plans to kill the Jews

He puts the blame on the Shah of Iran

do you have a citation for that claim?

Waste of digits over holohoax

5000 bodies a day/1440 minutes a day/4 ovens


Now you understand why it is total BS

And the fucking bs about Hitler being a druggie. active my almonds

Here we go again

You waste of Quads. The holocaust is a hoax

there was more than one camp retard
and there was 7 ovens at larger camps
jewishvirtuallibrary.org/crematoria-and-gas-chambers-at-auschwitz-birkenau

how DARE you all deny the eternal truth of the holocaust! 6 billion innocent jews lost their lives in what can only be described as the worst massacre to ever disgrace G-d's green Earth!

>rollercoaster of death
HAPPENED!
>human skin lampshade
HAPPENED!
>germans washing themselves with spa made from the fatty left-behinds of burned Jewish bodies
HAPPENED!

Not constantly questioning the nature of both reality & historical accuracy is stupid, especially when it pertains to war.
History is written by the victors & it massively benefits them to portray the vanquished as having been as evil as possible, thus taking attention away from their own wartime atrocities.
Without a WILLFUL, purposeful holocaust, the ultimate bad guy from WWII would doubtless have been the US, for both creating & then being the only country to ever use nuclear weapons against another country, and on civilians of that country to boot.
Close second would still be allied nations for brutally firebombing the FUCK out of German & Japanese cities (again full of civilians).

I personally do not believe there was an intent to wipe out the people in the concentration camps, as the evidence for that is shaky at best & outright fabricated at worst. It was also completely unlike a hyperefficient nation like Nazi Germany to waste such a massive amount of resources on transporting what would have been essentially huge numbers of death row inmates all over the place in resource scarce wartimes, when the most efficient method of elimination woul;d have overwhelmingly been to shoot them where found instead.

Does anybody have the image that explains how many Jews would've had to die each minute if they had started exterminating Jews in 1933

not all camps where extermination camps some where work camps and in the case of auschwitz both.

let bibi source his own fucking material.

the true holocaust revisionists are the "historians & scholars" who have had to reimagine and rewrite the "authoritative records" in the face of contradictory evidence coming to the fore decade after decade

Dumb Africans can kill 1 million in 100 days in the Rwandan genocide with machetes and clubs; but advanced Germans can't?

>That flag
>These arguments

plebbit. Never change.

All camps were claimed as death camps until the Allies investigated them and then every camp that was investigated magically became a concentration camp. Meanwhile on the other side the soviets didn't allow the allies to investigate and every camp they investigated remained a death camp and by some twist of fate the concentration camps vs death camps became easily distinguished by which ended up in allied or soviet control during and after the war. As we know the soviets never had agendas and were the most truthful people to ever live.

the soap bar and human lampshades thing has already been debunked a long time ago as the jews where malnourished and what do you need to make soap? fat.

>the tell the truth and shame the devil
wtf does that have to do with anything?
Thats michael browns mome jewing it up for author career/bucks, or not?

Why bother shipping them all over the place &^ wasting resources on both that as well as controlling huge numbers of inmates in camps, overwhelmingly likely to revolt at every given opportunity, ESPECIALLY when they could not have fucking doubted they were in extermination camps if the stories were true?
Why not just fucking kill them outright where they were found & initially captured? It makes no sense.

I don't believe for one minute that 6 million jews were exterminated. It never happened.

Sure, if you have open bloodshed in the streets and just hack the bodies to pieces and do nothing with the remains. Now try that again except you had to round everybody up, ship them to a camp, keep them there for awhile, maybe give them a few test runs on the masturbation machine, then gas them, then gas them a few more times because numerous survivors claim to have survived repeated gassings, then load them into a holocoaster or other oven and burn the bodies completely while maintaining the constant logistics for all the gas and fuel you're using.

Fucking this. FPBP.

Oh and basically everyone had a personal anal probe from Dr. Mengele himself. He must've been very busy.

>Why not just fucking kill them outright where they were found & initially captured?

do you realy want your citizens to see that you are killing there fellow citizens could you imagen the damage that would cause to the states image?

also by just killing them you cant use them as cheap slave labour (work camps)

The scenarios we're completely different.

If anything the fact the germans didn't just kill every jew in the first 100 days of the war stacks up against the genocide argument.

They were in work camps.
They got sick and ran out of supplies
There was no gas chambers
The nazis treated many jews very harshly.
The number of deaths is greatly GREATLY exaggerated.
Most of the footage at the holocaust museum isn't even valid.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! THE JEWISH BOLSHEVIK COMMUNISTS KILLED 66 MILLION CHRISTIANS but 6 million j00ze dying in a span of 5 years? logistically, mathematically impossible.

t. nat-soc

nobody is alleging 6 million jews died in 1.5 years.

>do you realy want your citizens to see that you are killing there fellow citizens could you imagen the damage that would cause to the states image?
The entirety of Germany is supposed to feel guilty for this because everyone was complicit. Also they elected Hitler supposedly because he had made such a good scapegoat of the Jews that nobody cared. So which is it? Were the Germans terrible monsters who hated the Jews and easily allowed their extermination or did Hitler have to hide his secret hatred because the people wouldn't allow it? I know which one the Holocaust claims, so why are you being a denier?

You should be skeptical of everything, but you're an idiot if you think all points of view are worth considering.

Prisoners (including Jews) were in camps, Prisoners (including Jews) died mostly of Typhus, closer to 400,000 deaths overall most in the final 6 months of the war

That is all

>masturbation machines
>holocoasters
>mantra for years after the war.
wrong again. just because these were published in some poorly read novels doesn't mean they were part of the official narrative (you know, backed by historians)

>elaborate death traps
these never got past the IMT

>muh IMT shall not be bound by evidence

still does not mean the IMT accepted this as fact during the sentencing.

if you elect a leader and that leader promises to deal with the jewish problem do you want to see them killing jews in youre neighberhood?

>so why are you being a denier?
im not a denier im just skeptical about some of the events that happened in the holocaust.

>damage that would cause to the states image?
They were fucking pioneers of & masters of propaganda, who (according to the popular portrayals) wanted to take over the world. Those already part of the Reich were allegedly all already on board with the jew hate & desire for elimination all along, so no problem there; your allied nations are all doing the same shit as you, so they don't care; and why would you give a fuck about how your image as seen by the countries you're fucking blitzkrieging over or planning to?

>by just killing them you cant use them as cheap slave labour (work camps)

But according to the lore, overwhelmingly more went straight from the trains to the gas chambers; why even bother shipping those there just to be killed? Easier & cheaper to setup a temporary camp on site, process, send the potential workers to the main camps, execute the rest & any potential witnesses (again, if you care).

We don't believe that it didn't happen, but we sure as hell dont believe that 6 quadrillion Jews died, the real figure is more in the 50,000's, more along the lines of the jap camps we had.

>If anything the fact the germans didn't just kill every jew in the first 100 days of the war stacks up against the genocide argument.

How could they possibly just kill every Jew in the first 100 days of the war when at that point most of the Jews in Europe were outside their reach?

Just admit that the "they couldn't do it" is a bad argument and move on.

Tell the truth and Shame the Devil is so full of errors that part of it has been refuted here:

i.imgur.com/ZRPWuOY

>who (according to the popular portrayals) wanted to take over the world

in the reich listening to foreign news was illigal for propaganda to work you need to keep other contradictory information out just look at the soviets with pravda.

It's a thought experiment at best.
I had been wondering how much of it is Allied propaganda but... I guess I can believe that, even if there were only five million Semites in Europe (Germany did try to invade Russia (not part of Europe and assumed Semitic by default), of whom they considered Slavs to be inferior anyway), that six million (out of a total of eleven million people in concentration camps) could have been killed.
In short, to dismiss discrepancies, I consider it possible that the statistics are inflated by a few million dead Russians.

>The prisoners' day began at 4:30 am (an hour later in winter) with morning roll call. Dr. Miklós Nyiszli describes roll call as beginning 03:00 and lasting four hours. The weather was cold in Auschwitz at that time of day, even in summer. The prisoners were ordered to line up outdoors in rows of five and had to stay there until 07:00, when the SS officers arrived.[117] Meanwhile, the guards would force the prisoners to squat for an hour with their hands above their heads or levy punishments such as beatings or detention for infractions such as having a missing button or an improperly cleaned food bowl. The inmates were counted and re-counted.[118] Nyiszli describes how even the dead had to be present at roll call, standing supported by their fellow inmates until the ordeal was over. When he was a prisoner in 1944–45, five to ten men were found dead in the barracks each night.[119] The prisoners assigned to Mengele's staff slept in a separate barracks and were awoken at 07:00 for a roll call that only took a few minutes.[120]
Here, have some 'official' bullshit. Straight from easy mode Wikipedia.

Have some more
>Initially the victims were killed with gas vans or by Einsatzgruppen firing squads, but these methods proved impracticable for an operation of this scale.[137] By 1942, killing centers at Auschwitz, Sobibór, Treblinka, and other Nazi extermination camps replaced Einsatzgruppen as the primary method of mass killing.[138]
>Bullets are inefficient and impractical, better transport, store, gas and burn each person instead

Pic related is one of the 'gas vans' except oops, no it isn't. These were 'widely used' but they couldn't even find a picture of one and this thing supposedly became not for extermination as soon as somebody bothered to look at it.

there were also SS divisions going around killing jews on the front/occupied territories

in addition there were SS commanders who got jewish labour battalions and executed them all

basically it's hitler's fault the jews got killed because he stirred up the hatred for them in his own countrymen. However he never ordered and such actions and actually tried to stop his soldiers/commanders from wasting resources/manpower/labour killing jews

the next one
youtube.com/watch?v=1VWyevfJTlw
is also good

>and why would you give a fuck about how your image as seen by the countries you're fucking blitzkrieging over or planning to?

The fact is that the Nazi media continuously disputed the reports of the massacres they've committed. Your argument is irrelevant.

>more went straight from the trains to the gas chambers


agian auschwitz was both a work camp and a extermanation camp.

>listening to foreign news was illegal
Then why give a fuck about what is portrayed in it?
Anyone who questions it too hard is in violation of the law.

""""Red Cross Report""""""

nice hoax you got there, pal.

>opens up with muh antisemites and neo natzees
>adhoms the rest
>no citations of anything
Wow rly maek me thonk

>he does not know about:

Intentionalism vs. Functionalism

>do you want to see them killing jews in youre neighberhood?
The Nazis were literally fine killing anybody in anybody's neighborhood. Its one of the ways they came into power. Then at some point they randomly stopped doing that where their 'most hated enemy' was concerned and for some reason decided to kill them in overly elaborate and ridiculous ways. And yes, putting people in a gas chamber and then cremating them is overly elaborate and ridiculous. It takes a tremendous amount of engineering and expertise to kill someone with a gas chamber without fucking yourself in the ass.

How is the first paragraph bullshit? Please explain. The "tägliches Appell" process is accepted by historians, survivors and pretty much everyone as fact. I havent even seen many deniers attack this part.

>2nd paragraph

Not because bullets are inefficient, but because the killers arent robots and started cracking under PTSD. On the other hand, you can kill over 1000 people in a gas chamber without having to see them, just drop the zyklon through the holes and be about your day, while the jewish sonderkommando are the ones tasked into getting them into the chamber and sealing the door, and then removing the corpses from the chamber, cremating them etc.

you forget that the people who died of typhus needed to be desposed of or the disease would spread what is one of the best ways to despose of a sick body?
burning it.

theres a good case to be made for the ovens not so much for the "gas chambers"


>Then at some point they randomly stopped doing that
take it with a grain of salt but the "official" "reason" why the stopped diong street exicutions where because the men got psychological problems of it.

>Not because bullets are inefficient, but because the killers arent robots and started cracking under PTSD.


but removing and cremating hunderds of bodies wont give a soldier pdst huh?
not even to mention the guilt one would face by diong that.

Where are the documents, where are the bodies, and why is the death count wildly shifting constantly?

Yeah, remember the 6 gorillion systematically killed by typhus that needed to be burned. The entire point here is that the number is inflated dingus, they can have ovens for cremation as long as they aren't having to fucking cremate 6 million (really 11 million because of more dumb jew math) within a few years.

>soldiers were removing and cremating the bodies

wew lad, it's like you aren't even trying anymore. go back and re-read my comment.

I see someone else on this board is educated on the Holocaust. You're doing good so far, BTFOing all their claims, but it won't matter. These people already have their minds made up to the point where the only thing that would convince them is an HD video of Hitler dropping gas pellets into a gas chamber himself

>when they gas you with so much zyklon B you begin to lose weight and show symptoms of typhus - and then burn you in an oven.

Or perhaps we're wondering why nazis would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane?

>while the jewish sonderkommando
oh sorry i made a mistake no need to be such a faggot about it.
did you not read my comment? i said there a case to be made for the ovens since alot of sick bodies would need to be cremated.

>B-but they didn't kill them because they needed them for labor, that's why they didn't just execute them or send them all straight to the gas chamber, silly goy
>You know, the hard labor of making sure they're useless at labor by having them stand in the cold for hours every day for funsies because those evil nazis right guys?