Im 19 years old

im 19 years old.
all of my freinds are either in college being supported by their parents or student loans or they are working a service industry wagecuck job and barely getting by rooming with 3 people.
how the fuck am i suppose to move out without doing either of those?

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Networking.

Getting a high-end job by licking the boots of someone yours parents know.

dont move out for a while. retard

joined the national guard, pays full tuition for school and get GI bill to pay for rent, love with only one roommate, no student loans

*live, not love

VOCATIONAL SCHOOL


this otherwise

>Networking
>falling for the social jew
man, just tune out. :D

This so much this. If you're a chill enough person you can bs your way into the dumbest things

sign 3 years in the army/some other branch for a pog ass technical MOS.

Chill, Occasionally shoot guns, Learn something useful, then get out and you'll have the GI Bill and VA should be better by the time you get out.

Plus you get .mil brownie points with normies.

die for israel

build your credit find a good job find a woman with proper job and credit as well.
easy til you actually try it you fucking retard. stop with these faggot threads please.

I'm a Jew, so I'm supportive of Israel already

>live, not love
You're like a poet

it's funny but if OP moves to Israel he will get free Education, Healthcare and be safer morally from the decaying, cancerous USA.

Find a trade apprenticeship program in HVAC, Telecommunications, Electric, etc etc. They pay for your schooling while letting you work from 7am-3pm 4pm-6pm is class at your local community college. Stop being lazy and learn something useful to contribute to society. After completing the program wages increase exponentially. Look for companies hiring on "scale contract" jobs, pay typically starts at $18-$22/hr. $15/hr is w/o scale job. Better than "service jobs" w/e the fuck that even means. I'm assuming food and beverage industry is what you meant but didn't convey that properly so your prospects of completing a trade program within the top of your class drop since you are by your own definition on this industry you work in and can't define properly, stupid.
Good luck anyways I guess.

and he would have to watch out with Palestinians with knives. According to my Rabbi Palestinians with knives are pretty common over there.

You're a faggot

Who is this thickette?

Seconded

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You're welcome.

Just don't go into residential for any of that shit.

First of all
>>/BIZ/
Secound of all get a fucking jobe faggot.
I am 18 and i am working at my dads company, i have 2.500 Euros, will soon be able to buy my own apartment, where is the problem?Why can't you work hard and stop spending money like retard?Allthough it's in American culture to spend and not save at all, since 7/10 americans don't even have 1000 dollars of savings.

just get a job man at least you don't have criminal charges (obey the law)

I have a part time job and I've saved up 20kusd so fuck off

No the guard is fucking retarded, just go active and use GI bill after you are out

Then where is the problem?
Why can't you move out?

Part 1: Nut up, forget service industry or retail, and get a manufacturing, construction, or warehouse job.
Get something, full time, where you actually make some sort of actual money. Anywhere, and field, where the pay's better than "flipping burgers" for 20-30ish hours a week at minimum wage. Those above mentioned fields usually bring that. But bottom line, whatever you do, go for what pays decently, as it's about making enough money so that you aren't just desperate for the next paycheck to pay last week's bills.
That is life working as a burger flipper, stock-boy or a retail worker. Service and retail shit's just a hamster wheel you'll never get out of.
It's good for teenagers looking for gas money and ramen, or house wives with kids, but you live like a poorfag that can't even go to a nice restaurant once a week without budgeting out a chunk of your total pay, and can't save because basics just to get to and from work, fed and sheltered, take up everything.
Screw the entire sideshow, and GET A BIGBOY JOB.
Save your money as you go along, and get some vocational training. Swallow some pride and see if your folks would help you out.

Get a "wagecuck" job and don't waste money.

I work 40 hours a week, started at minimum wage, and easily pay rent, water/electricity/gas/basic internet, put food on the table, and have $200-$300 a month to put aside in savings. I have a roommate, but it's a two bedroom apartment.

No college degree or experience, didn't have any experience in grocery management before this job, just dressed nice and asked to speak with the personnel manager when I turned the resume in. Now I run an entire department on weekends and assist on weekdays.

Most people spend money they don't have on things they don't need, and expect to make ends meet working just 20 hours a week in a job with no room for promotion or raises, that provides no useful skills to look for better work when they have a few years of steady employment to add to their resume. Be willing to work early morning and late night shifts and weekends, work hard, be polite, and don't just apply to fast food places and take a two-day-a-week job because it sounds easy.

Being competent, actually showing up on time, and not smoking dope go a hell of a long way in a world where most young people are stoned idiots with no work ethic.

>tells people to work hard/be independent
>working at dads company

may as well be living with your parents you faggot. oh wait, you are.

Goddamn nice find OP shes so fucking hot like Joanna Newsom when she was 19.

Also TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WELFARE IF YOU CAN

Don't be ashamed to get every fucking bit of help you can get, dude.

t. google

I'll give you some sagely advice if you post more of that Sheila

Getting help from your parents (money they earned themselves and freely give to you) is more honorable then taking welfare (money taken by force from private citizens and distributed to failures)

I have ones from 8 years ago and it is absolutely impossible to get anyone to talk to me past the initial interaction. Great interviews if I get them quick, well liked and received, but as soon as they have my name for over 24 hours I never hear from them again and they dodge any contact I try to make. even in fields where a record is supposed to be not a big deal

not violent charges or even felonies lol. System is shit

Thinking of doing this. Did accounting in college and fucked up interview, pay is shit anyways. Maybe live in an RV and read books and shit. Sup Forums red/blackpilled me too much.

In all honesty, if my parent handed me a decently paying job at 18, why in hell's name would I Ever want to go looking for something else, unless it was actually better option?
He'd be a fool not to take that.

Suck dick for money.

>>tells people to work hard/be independent
Never said that,what i said was that he needs to get a jobe, nothing more, and i thought he didn't had a jobe since he said.
>how the fuck am i suppose to move out without doing either of those?
>may as well be living with your parents you faggot. oh wait, you are.
So what?He isn't overpaying me and he dosen't let me not work and get pay for nothing, it dosen't work that way.
Your arguments have no basis in reality.
And i am not living with my parents, i am renting apartment in commie block, it's shit but better then nothing, i will buy it soon and then renovate over time.

Get married. Two-income household.

1. get a full time retail job
2. get a bachelor apartment
3. use public transit
4. buy cheap groceries

congratulations, you are no longer a NEET

> No violent charges
Were you dealing drugs? Most companies will not hire drug addicts. Put "can pass a drug test" on your resume if that's the problem.

I know plenty of people even with violent convictions (domestic abuse, DUI resulting in injury) who had no problems getting a job since they listed the actions they'd taken to correct the problem (therapy, drug rehabilitation, sobriety, etc). If you minimize the crime then say nothing about what you did to move past it, employers think you're trying to hide your past because you haven't moved on from it.

You fucked up, now you start at a disadvantage. It's not unfair, you just have to put extra effort in to prove yourself worth their time. They deal with loads of scum looking for a new job to hold for a month or two before they get more smack or punch someone again. They have no idea who you are, just what other people like you ended up being.

>BE A NIGGER IF YOU CAN

>all of my freinds are either in college being supported by their parents or student loans or they are working a service industry wagecuck job and barely getting by rooming with 3 people.how the fuck am i suppose to move out without doing either of those?

Find an entry level job at a manufacturing, industrial, or mechanical company, or, look to start as an assistant/apprentice in a trade.

Get the cheapest studio apartment you can get, but that's far enough away from googles so that you can be safe and won't get robbed all the time. Don't get a roommate.

What you want to do is
1) gain work experience
2) gain a useful skill
3) sock money away as fast as possible
4) have your own place
5) have a viable plan

If you take a girl back to your crappy apartment, and she has a problem with it, you can just ask her, "how many guys my age actually have their own place and a real job? This is what life looks like when you live frugally, save money, and are planning for the future. What does your apartment look like? Who's paying for it?"

Well I was born to shit parents, I'm sorry that I need a handout because of my biological circumstances.

Holy shit, no.
Girlfriend potential wife that works, yes.
Roommate yes.
Marriage at 19? Dammitman.

I didn't say it was dishonorable, just less honorable if it was available. Welfare exists specifically for people in your situation, but it shouldn't be used by those who could get support from private sources.

I have no problem giving up some of my income so people can get help making ends meet while they pull themselves up to solvency, but I get angry when college idiots get $130 a month for groceries from the government even while daddy pays their rent and phone bill.

t. varg

>. get a full time retail job

he said no shit service jobs.

generally, there is no future in retail. It's a cost center, and it is exclusively for girls who want to work at malls, and boys who want to pickup girls who work at malls.

unless .... you have magnificent natural game, and can somehow quickly pivot your retail experience into a commissioned sales job in a high-margin business...

Also
>Relaying on woman for finantial help
well it's shitiest option out there since it for the moast part goes other way around

I'm 49. Wife died in 2012 in a car crash. My daughter is 18.
Life can seem harsh at times. Do your best to look after friends and family, do something other than work that engages you, work is a way of getting coin; it can be enjoyable. I'm a roofer. It's dangerous, but needs must. Bills must be paid, food needs to be cooked, etc.
Just know that one day you'll die. It's certain.
I'll be working on pic related later.

Dude.........

getting married young is great. I was 24, my wife was 20.

the main problem with the advice to get married and become dual income is that you should never even think about marrying a woman with career aspirations (or college debt).

a woman should only work to help you two build money until she becomes a full time mom who homeschools your children.

Apprenticeship or STEM degree. Get experience, by the time you are 30 set up your own business. Profit. Either that or take the blue pill.

You are living under a slave socialist system at the moment. It sucks, I know, you were raised to believe a lie.

Capitalism is still alive but it's being throttled heavily by the vote of the baby boomer generation.

The baby boomers are holding the authority at the moment, they are on their last years 5 to 10 years of strength before they become too old to walk by themselves.

Don't try to fight the system with blunt force, don't try to defraud the system, instead do what is logical do what is reasonable for your own good investment by being on the grind.

You have to except the life of being thrifty and frugal until you get your income into a higher flow and stability.

Continually educate yourself
Save your money
Live your life as a minimalist
Rid yourself of addictions and destructive habits.
Exercise and keep up on your health

As long as the boomers are a majority in the authority, don't expect any big changes in this current system, they are conservatives to their masters and culture, they intend to keep it that way till their last day.

THE TRADES Be willing to work hard and show up.

what flag is this, and why was it added.

>what flag is this,
Put your mouse on that flag and read what it says
>and why was it added.
this is Sup Forums after all

Become a welder OP, I'm sure you and the 30 million other idiots who took up welding because of people online telling them to will definitely all find well paying jobs.

Does her untimely death make you feel angry sometimes?

>2.50 euros
How fucking poor is Latvia where $3 is considered a good amount of money

I ment 2.5k Euros, it's allmoast enough to buy an apartment.

Fuck how did you know I was doing this?

That's 5 years of work/life though. 24's a big difference than 19. I presumed you were implying you were ~19 when you got married and so should he. At that age most men are going to be like OP; trying just to move out, maybe find A girlfriend, much less attract a decent woman and have the income/savings to hold together a long term marriage.
24 however? Not unreasonable. Hope the best for you onward.

>Does her untimely death make you feel angry sometimes?

Not anymore. Life goes on. I was angry at the time, but my anger didn't solve anything. I just get on with life. And take photographs.

At 18, you have not saved up that kind of money. It's your rich dad's money. You have no room to act superior.

Trades, military.

How do I do this and what are the requirements?

>How am I supposed to get ahead in life without doing any hard work that I'm too proud to do?
You don't.
It's a different world we live in than the one our parents did 40 odd years ago but only a fool denies a road to success because its a shade they don't like.

Pick up a service-industry gig, something not physically taxing, and figure out how to network in your spare time. Put forward some fucking effort and keep putting your resume and reputation out there until you get a bite.

What skills do you have? What did you work on in high school that you would say you showed passion and technique for?

Degeneracy.

>The only way not to get raped by the American laborslave system is to fucking die

really made me think

Exact same as active military requirements. You go to basic training and your job school still but after it all you go home and you train 1 weekend per month for your contract length for the benefit of gi bill and some sweet fuckin healthcare. Beware of deployments though.

Yeah especially considering how the penal system is susceptible to making mistakes and really looking at the wrong people.

The problem is that some people who have habits that aren't even close to as bad as others end up in more trouble than worse people.

>Assumes they would be such a shit soldier that they'd die automatically.
rub some dirt on it and work your way into an office position.

This.

The guy has 20k as he is 19 how can i act superior?

nigger, kill yourself

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grave security is easy as fuck. a lot of red pilled people too. also easy as fuck to climb ranks since most grave officers dont give a fuck about anything so its easy to shine. also easy to become as lazy as them.

walk around town at night listening to books or whatever. as for being against roommates - you'd be stupid to deny yourself the chance to pool your bills with others. i lived with like 6 people and we lived in a few beautiful houses with bills being like 300 bucks. shit was paradise.

This too.

You just be open about it and outline why it doesn't define you. Most employers can look at a person who did a bad thing but recitified it and took ownership of their mistake as a reliable employee. If they think you're trying to hide it, they think you didn't move past it. Unfortunetely the world is loaded with scum who never, ever grow up, and if an employer has the choice between a high school student with no record or an adult who may be reliable but may end up missing a week of work while high on smack or get caught slinging in the parking lot, they're gonna go with the safer choice.

...

>office position

lmao a cubicle? no thanks you can do that and kill yourself after getting depressed and obese my man

>i lived with like 6 people and we lived in a few beautiful houses with bills being like 300 bucks. shit was paradise.

As you get more and more roommates, the odds of one of them being absolutely terrible skyrockets. They steal your shit, they frame you for drugs or CP, they cock-block you when you bring a girl home, etc.

If you are going to be in charge and can kick people the fuck out with total impunity, and form a mannerbund of non-shitty guys, fine.

Otherwise, skip roommates. You need to live on your own to find out who you are.

Want to not be an employer's bitch, learn some of the rules of bizz and be the customers' bitch. Either way capitalism is about about giving consent to be fucked for $.

What if that's all their dad can afford and they need the location for college?

I would be flexible but try and find cash only jobs. Scrapping, lawn mowing/snow removal, stereo installation, stuff like that. After a few jobs you can file as a business and start skimming money and writing off living expenses as business expenses. Obviously you need a scale of profit that would make sense (don't write off a 20k car when you make 30k a year) but you can easily clear about 30-50% of living expenses.

My other advice is find a niche industry and write software for it. I have an oil and gas background and wrote some code in college and sold it for 28k, and I get like 2k royalties every year. That was a real crapshoot, but it's worth looking into.

fake schizophrenia and hop on the neetbux train

This is pretty much what i did. I was a hull tech in the navy. When i got out i fell into the "well i guess ill be a welder" trap. Eventually found a job with public utilities fixing big sewage pumps, navy experience got me in the door. Long story short; that experience and my navy experience landed me a job at a water treatment facility. Provided you can put up with some foul smells and can turn a wrench from time to time, its a pretty good paying chill job. As long as everything is running fun, the microorganisms do all the work, so half the time im not really breaking a sweat or anything. I also happen to "get lucky" falling into a field not a lot of people my age are going into though, so its just a matter of luck and trying new jobs out

Blue collar dumbass.
I make 13 dollars an hour for entry level work over the summer.
Go to trade school and actually learn a skill. Cdl drivers are needed everywhere, welders, basically anything.

The system needs to give people the freedom needed to work.

Thank you. I was asking because a person very dear to me is dealing with the sudden death of her sibling due to cancer.
I have no personal experience so I don't know how to help her.

>be me
>@18, pizza delivery driver, $22k'year
>@22, trucker w/Class A CDL, $43k'year
>@31, still trucker (now), $63k'year
>@18-31, growing 20 plants of Cannabis, $30k'year (I don't consume, just grow)
>wtf saving like a Jew and been living with my Grandpa since the last 8 years (very low cost of living/annual expenses)

How come more and more women are ending up with high paying jobs in the corporate everywhere? Are you guys incompetent fucks or just plain dumb?

You're pretty much fucked. Damned if you do damned if you don't. You will be miserable no matter what you do as an adult.