Guys, I know a nurse at the hospital where they were keeping Otto, her first name is Steph. She says the family offed him, they had him intubated (which he didn't need), then pulled the plug on him so he suffocated. She said he was not brain dead but was unresponsive. He had been alive without a machine to help him breath or eat for over a year.
if you read the family statement:
>Surrounded by his loving family, Otto died today at 2:20pm. >the awful torturous mistreatment our son received at the hands of the North Koreans ensured that no other outcome was possible beyond the sad one we experienced today.
they basically admit to killing him, they say the whole family was gathered around them blame north korea for the outcome, but they pulled the plug.
He painfully suffocated to death, and this is legal.
>tfw the North Koreans gave him better medical treatment than his own family. If he was still in North Korea he'd still be alive.
Luis Miller
Why did they not give him more time?
Samuel Lewis
>Why did they not give him more time?
I don't know, I think they knew about his condition before he got here and already decided to let him die
Noah Bennett
How was he able to eat if he was unresponsive?
Jose Parker
Are you fucking serious?
Burgercation
Oliver Sanders
Hell, I knew that the second I heard he was dead. that family doesnt have the coins to pay for junior to be hooked up on life support.
My best guess is that Otto hung himself in prison, and before his brain went dead the guards found him. The Norks really dont want a good pawn to die, so I find hard to believe that the norks are behind his injuries.
Owen Russell
>How was he able to eat if he was unresponsive?
well he was not hooked up to any feeding tube and she said he was well fed, i guess he would chew and swallow if you put food in his mouth
William Cooper
Went out like a true american, crying and braindead
Anthony Ramirez
so he came home and then put on life support?
if they pulled the plug then it was for good reason, no way he was even waking up or not being a vegetable minimum
Grayson Reed
time == money. And if the boy didnt have medical insurance, which I highly doubt he did, then the family is paying $x,000+ a day for the hospital
Kayden Roberts
He was brain dead Many people need his organs, and have just days to live, and unlike otto, they can be saved. So time was of the essence The parents want his organs to be in someone else... then they can 'adopt' that person...
if I was the parents, I'd bank his sperm. but they might not have thought of that.
Wyatt Fisher
we're a nation of burgers not medicare burden vegetables
Charles Reed
>so he came home and then put on life support? >if they pulled the plug then it was for good reason, no way he was even waking up or not being a vegetable minimum
Basically what they did was stick a tube down his throat then force a machine to breath for him, then they turned off the machine to kill him
he didn't need the machine to breathe, but they had no other legal means of ending his life
Brandon Bailey
if he woke up he was going to be crazy retarded. Thats only if he woke up he may never have woken up.
Luis Cruz
Fuck you
But he was their son!
Andrew Reyes
Excellent post.
Christian Powell
I assume for your country it's cowering in the crosswalk.
Levi Rodriguez
Larping FUCK, proof of Steph of GTFO
William Howard
>He was brain dead he was most certainly not brain dead, when you are brain dead you cannot breathe or eat or do anything, he would not have lived for a year in North Korea while brain dead
That's not legal in murka. If the doctorb said pully pluggy and the Geico lizard says it's ok. Then it's bye bye gramma. But you dont have full on Dutch suck a tail pipe laws yet
Kayden Bennett
>That's not legal in murka. If the doctorb said pully pluggy and the Geico lizard says it's ok. Then it's bye bye gramma. But you dont have full on Dutch suck a tail pipe laws yet so you didn't read or comprehend the post?
Isaac Stewart
How so
Lucas King
>be a vegetable >effortlessly kept alive by N. Koreans for like a year >come home to U.S. >get dead
does seem weird
Isaac Russell
>braindead >keeping the corpse alive
Jason Walker
re read the posts in this thread by me then explain what you do not understand and I will walk you through it
Charles Thomas
To be honest, there's something really fishy about the name Otto Warmbier to a German. Otto went pretty much extinct in the sixties. And no parents would ever name their child Otto these days, especially not with the funky surname. Highschool would have been a nightmare for young Otto Warmbier. Simpler families don't have any naming traditions, but I guess Otto was destined to keep the family line alive, which concludes that the Warmbiers are not a simple Family and maybe that made their son a valid target for... whoever was actually behind it.
Chase Lee
The guy was a potato. You're allowed to do this when Grandma becomes a potato.
Joshua Sanders
He was absolutely not brain dead. A brain dead person can normally only live a few hours. He was in a vegetative state but could eat and breath >>be a vegetable >>effortlessly kept alive by N. Koreans for like a year >>come home to U.S. >>get dead >does seem weird it's pretty fucked to be honest
Colton Hernandez
i work with intensive care and trauma patients and your post assures me that you were once a victim of some sort of traumatic brain injury. Perhaps the family pulled him off life support so he wouldn't end up like you, Op.
Cooper Edwards
Has anyone see any photos of him returning to the usa? or of him prior to his death?
As far as we know this is all an elaborate scheme to go to war with North Korea or for UN sanctions. Something is up the US Governments sleeve...
Brandon Ortiz
Gee, I wonder (((who))) is behind these posts.
Evan Hall
You have no euthanasia laws. You can't just smother people with medical equipment and be ok
Owen Richardson
>The guy was a potato. You're allowed to do this when Grandma becomes a potato.
he had been potatoing along just fine in a shithole nork prison for 15 months, then he gets home to a high tech hospital and is dead within the week
Oliver Jones
Duh. Obviously it was a case of pulling the plug because the kid was braindead.
Elijah Sanchez
I wouldn't want to have to take care of a retarded son either
Hudson Ross
>Has anyone see any photos of him returning to the usa? or of him prior to his death?
>Duh. Obviously it was a case of pulling the plug because the kid was braindead.
he was not brain dead, look up what being brain dead means, he was fine
when you are brain dead you cannot eat or breath or regulate your body temp and die in hours without extensive care and 50 machines hooked up to you
Landon Richardson
ITT Retarded burgers
Norks knew he was close to kicking the bucket and gave him away. Nothing that could be done about a brain injury
Matthew Flores
He was braindeading "just fine". well put.
Carson Davis
>I wouldn't want to have to take care of a retarded son either
I think this is basically their thought process :(
James Sullivan
Well said, Nazi!
Carson Johnson
He was a spy, his death was faked
Jeremiah Campbell
You haven't checked the wiki, tinkler toucher.
Isaiah Anderson
>He was braindeading "just fine". well put. look up a wikipedia article on what being brain dead means
Nathan Watson
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John Foster
>he was fine OK, "all but braindead". He had extensive loss of brain tissue and was in a persistent vegetative state. There was no coming back from it. He was a vegetable. Deal with it.
Noah Rogers
>You have no euthanasia laws. You can't just smother people with medical equipment and be ok actually you kind of can
Anthony Diaz
>he was fine
being a near vegetable is not a fine way to live, who the fuck wants to live with enough brain damage to where they can still breath and shit but otherwise cant really function. i'd want put out of my misery.
Joseph Myers
>OK, "all but braindead". He had extensive loss of brain tissue and was in a persistent vegetative state. There was no coming back from it. He was a vegetable. Deal with it.
not really a good reason to murder him
even the norks didn't resort to that
Ian Hughes
>being a near vegetable is not a fine way to live, who the fuck wants to live with enough brain damage to where they can still breath and shit but otherwise cant really function. i'd want put out of my misery.
they could have given him like a fucking week or two
Henry Cox
At least he didn't wind up under some sand-nigger's tires.
Landon Sullivan
So in other words, they took him off Ottopilot?
Benjamin King
A breathing tube doesn't prevent your automatic processes' from working. A breathing tube doesn't prevent the body from breathing on it's own once it's removed and it's quite common for someone who is expected to die from having their breathing tube removed (due to their automatic process for breathing not working) will continue to breathe on their own once it is gone.
If he died from having this tube removed then he wasn't capable of breathing on his own. His body wasn't capable of keeping up the automatic process of breathing on it's own. It's the same way a person who's unable to keep up the automatic process of their heart beating will die once CPR stops being administered to them. It's not that the CPR stopped their heart (or the breathing tube stopped their breathing), it was only providing a process that they should be able to do automatically.
Jaxson Parker
>A breathing tube doesn't prevent your automatic processes' from working. A breathing tube doesn't prevent the body from breathing on it's own once it's removed and it's quite common for someone who is expected to die from having their breathing tube removed (due to their automatic process for breathing not working) will continue to breathe on their own once it is gone.
but user they did not remove it, they just turned off the machine with the tube in and suffocated him to death
Christopher Morales
He was also transported from there to the us, travel can hinder anyones condition.
Elijah Rodriguez
Please post proof of this, then. That would be highly irregular and against medical procedure to leave a piece of equipment that will suffocate him in despite it no longer working.
I have a difficult time believing this is the way it went down without some hard proof.
Julian Perry
And what is the point of keeping the individual alive in a persistent vegetative state with extensive loss of brain tissue and no way to recover? It is pointless. It is pointless to the individual concerned. It is pointless to people close to him once they move past denial. It is pointless to society at large. If you need to call it murder for your righteous indignation, go right ahead. I certainly hope they murder me if I'm in that condition.
Adrian Reed
Bullshit, that's not how withdrawal of care works.
Fuck off, roleplayer.
Joshua Price
CARLOS YOU FUCKING CUNT
William Taylor
If being brain-dead means that your parents kill you, then you should be very worried.
Hunter Long
BBBBBBRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP
Dominic Powell
No shit the norks didn't resort to that. He was a bargaining tool to them.
Andrew Reyes
Proof that north korean healtcare is better than american'
Brandon Wood
He was missing half his brain. They probably figured that even if he woke up it wouldn't be a life worth living.
Oliver Cox
>Please post proof of this, then. That would be highly irregular and against medical procedure to leave a piece of equipment that will suffocate him in despite it no longer working. can't without getting my friend fired
>Bullshit, that's not how withdrawal of care works. it's how it worked today
Evan Parker
Crickets, user.
Wyatt Brooks
Cool larp, bro
Justin Johnson
>And what is the point of keeping the individual alive in a persistent vegetative state with extensive loss of brain tissue and no way to recover? It is pointless. It is pointless to the individual concerned. It is pointless to people close to him once they move past denial. It is pointless to society at large. If you need to call it murder for your righteous indignation, go right ahead. I certainly hope they murder me if I'm in that condition.
The point is they basically used a vent to kill a guy and that is fucked up
why does nobody see why i think this is fucked up
Jonathan Morgan
>being a near vegetable is not a fine way to live, who the fuck wants to live with enough brain damage to where they can still breath and shit but otherwise cant really function
Most of us posting.
Ryan Watson
(((Friend))). Ok buddy, that's fine.
Cooper Myers
>can't without getting my friend fired Well if you refuse to provide proof, then how can you expect us to believe you?
You obviously have the proof. You would've said you didn't have any if you didn't, but you said you didn't want to get your friend fired. This implies you or your friend have proof of a murder but don't wish to discuss it because it might get your friend fired.
Christian Russell
>Literally a vegetable >Mercy kill >Pol: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CONSPIRASSREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Michael Howard
Would stem cell therapy have saved him?
Isaiah Clark
OTTO WARMBIER ANAGRAMS of his name:
WARTIME ROBOT WOMBAT RIOTER
Jayden Gray
NOT FUNNY
Noah Johnson
CAAAAAAARRLLOOOOOOOOOSSSS
Michael Cox
>If being brain-dead means that your parents kill you, then you should be very worried. being brain dead means you are legally dead
FUCK DOES NOBODY KNOW WHAT BRAIN DEAD MEANS
Joshua Harris
No his name is the lamest invention ever >Auto warm beer Right up there with the DVD rewinder
Cameron Gray
How'd the shit did he get braindamage? Did he get tortured or some shit?
Parker Brown
Wrong
Robert Jackson
>Well if you refuse to provide proof, then how can you expect us to believe you?
Just telling you what I know
maybe this will all come out in the mainstream and you will have heard it here first
Jacob Rivera
Time won't fix a lobotomy.
David Thomas
I just wanna know how he got so brain damaged?
Asher Diaz
Welcome to the internet where brain dead means alive, than = then and chemical castration means literally acid to the gonads
Christopher Peterson
Anyone who visits North Korea should have their own funeral held before they go.
Luis Fisher
>Just telling you what I know
>I have proof of a conspiracy that ended with the murder of a US citizen but I don't want to post the proof of it
Dominic Sullivan
>Ohio >legal >patchwork country Those are your problems
Christopher Hernandez
Otto was a CIA tool. He wanted to get into a UVA secret society, a secret society that sends members to the CIA, high politics, etc. He had been to North Korea before. I think he was sent there to get caught and cause an international scene. He was assured he'd be freed...obviously it didn't go as he planned, but probably the way the CIA intended.
some german Americans still like and use traditional german names.
Not that you'd know anything about that mohammad.
Ryan Smith
THE MEMES ARE REAL THE MAGIC THAT YOU FEEL THE MEMES ARE REAL THE MAGIC THAT YOU FEEL youtube.com/watch?v=lOKbMW2uqs8 THE MEMES ARE REAL THE MAGIC THAT YOU FEEL
Luis Rivera
Better to die than be kept alive as a mockery of what you once were.
