I'm not even kidding. Why would I work if I can live of welfare?
What I usually get from people who support capitalism/ imperialism is arguments about human nature, natural superiority, how its nobody fault Africans and others got colonised because "its better that we exploit them than they us" but why on earth isn't than natural from me to sit at home while you litterally work your asses of, like my personal slaves so I would receive a welfare check?
Whats wrong with that? Its just another form of capitalism but its me exploiting you instead of some store owner exploiting me as a worker. Why would I work if I can live perfectly fine like this - isn't it simply natural (using capitalist argument here) for more intelligent being to adapt to new circumstances.
Let's be honest - you are frustrated because you are an idiot and feel cheated by system that you believed in. And instead of doing anything about muh white genocide, muh welfare leeches like protesting or rebelling you post memes on internet + you probably bend your ass to politically correct standards at your workplace because you are to mediocre and scared of losing a job and you come here to vent off while not doing anything in your life.
you worthless piece of shit. take responsibility for yourself or fuck off and die.
David Johnson
>tfw no commie gf
Nathan Nguyen
Because it's really unattractive and nothing shrinks ovaries/dicks faster than unproductive members of society.
Kevin James
>Why would I work if I can live of welfare? HAHAHAHA Wel-Fare Bum. Low Standard Sandy Someone No One Wants to Mate With All Around Degenerate The Antithesis of the Ubermensch
Henry Jenkins
Yes, I'm worthless and I take pride in being worthless in capitalist society. It's the most moral thing I can do. You'd be surprised how many girls don't care about that. Except if you are searching for moneydiggers.
Jace Gutierrez
Why live off welfare when I make 100 000 a year. Im 36 and almost never work from Investing. Im not the millionare stock broker but 100 000 a year when doing 2 hours of work a day is much better then 0 hours a day with 10 000 a year
Angel Gonzalez
Hes right though. Its a genius plan for the lazy man and he can get away with it. Now that its blatent using the system can we get rid of welfare and let the useless just die if they cant work?
Connor Nelson
Best I managed to find is soc dem, Women are hopelessly centrist for some reason.
Dylan Mitchell
i've pondered this because i have a medical issue that makes life slightly harder than it should be. Most places for information I see basically say if you're a white male without kids you're probably going to die before you can live the neet lifestyle unless you know some kinda trick..
Grayson Lewis
If people want communism so they can just be welfare queens. Think again, you will be forced to work.
Andrew Nelson
Some people have aspirations and know they are better than 99% of the population, aka me
Lucas Anderson
>Why would I work if I can live of welfare? leftypol at it's finest
Joseph King
Not if you have, A shirt worth more then 6$
Blake Clark
because you and everyone else will reach the same conclusion and suddenly no one will be living on welfare.
Kayden Brown
you're a coward. if everyone did what you were doing, the system would collapse tomorrow, which is obviously what we all want. however, other people have dependents. families. shit to do, goals, hobbies. to position your decision to leach off of those people as a moral boon to the world is dishonest; if you want to justify your laziness, you may do so within a capitalist paradigm, but not a socialist one.
if you were sincere, you'd work under the table and build up your community. but you're not actually principled, you're just justifying yourself.
Michael Mitchell
I like to masterbate once a day not 18 ill take my car over depression
Caleb Morales
People with your mindset are the reason communism fails. If everybody acted like you society would collapse. You are a worthless leech.
Parker Perry
commies are a shit and im white as george w bush
Aaron Wilson
Stolen pasta
Xavier Foster
I can't wait until the dollar collapses and worthless parasites like you screech autistically for your vanished gibs.
Josiah Taylor
I sense troll
Austin Scott
Thass right, in /your/ communist utopia, you'll succeed in creating the New Man who will work for the common good, unlike the previous 5 serious tries at it.
Julian Jackson
>why would I not be a useless, leeching piece of shit when I can be a useless, leeching piece of shit? Gee, I don't know.
Jonathan Garcia
>Its just another form of capitalism but its me exploiting you It IS you exploiting society. Not doing it well but still, yes, you'd be exploiting society and everyone knows it so you would have no freinds. >instead of some store owner exploiting me as a worker. Ok I'm gonna explain this slowly so you can understand. (I'm assuming you're not past UnderGraduate age.) The store owner IS NOT exploiting you. You are in a VOLUNTARY agreement with the store worker to trade your labour for money. If he doesn't give you enough money, you're free to not give him your labor. If you ask for more than he's willing to pay, he can hire someone else. VOLUNTARY. And then, after a long week of work at a job you don't really enjoy, you get to take the money that you earned with your labor and buy things with it. AND THAT FEELS GOOD. Knowing that you have what it takes to make a good life for yourself FEELS GOOD. The property will feel like it's YOURS because it is and you earned it. You start to respect work, self determination and the rights and property of others. You become a decent human being. And that FEELS GOOD.
Owen Sanchez
Let's be honest, how does it feel that you can not afford anything when and where, have no self respect, and achieve nothing in life. What can you do? And you are dumb enough to brag about it? :')
Nathaniel Martin
Commies produce nothing of value anyway, so you pulling out of whatever shit-tier "work" you did at the local collective coffee shop won't be missed by anyone.
Lucas Reed
+1
Connor Watson
> The Antithesis of the Ubermensch literally the opposite, its not my fault you are getting triggerd because of being raped in the ass by your overlords every day I wouldn't really know what to do with that amount of money. As long as I can buy or borrow a book here and there and can eat meat almost every day I'm pretty happy. My trick is writing critiques for local newspapers seldomly - I just spew some postmodern shit here and there and they're impressed. Hope it gives at least some kind of idea. Even if I had money I would pretend that I'm poor just to be sure that I'm not dating a moneydigger. I know and agree. I'd gladly work under just and fair system.
Thomas Myers
But you can do that. The problem is the lack of respect society gives to you/lack of quality females but if you don't care about that then it has no downsides besides having to cut corners.
Jayden Perez
Had no idea about that, but my points are still valid tho.
Owen Williams
>just and fair system It will never be fair. You will become a slave.
Brayden Miller
>want UBI >jews automate everything >no more jobs except for jews >jews introduce UBI >everyone celebrates and gets neeting
>oh shit we need you goyim to do XX >goyim don't want to >UBI cuts unless goyim do XX >literally a slave to the jew >thanks international communism!
this is what they've been working towards for the last 300 years.
William Bell
Because it means you're no better than a nigger, who is useless out of incompetence.
Julian Peterson
U want a fair system, yet exploit others, what are you, 12? It's always me me me me me
Owen Morgan
>Why would I work if I can live of welfare? So you don't want anything else in life than a tiny apartment, no car, no holiday trips, no luxuries whatsoever? Isn't that enough to motivate most people to get a job?
Mason Brown
Because it's immoral, and niggers getting colonised has what to do with this? Also, workers aren't exploited by employers, they get paid to do certain tasks for a pre-agreed price. A truly intelligent being would work hard and build something to better their living standards. The fact that certain things are natural, like being a lazy parasite, doesn't mean that they should be acted upon, that's what sets us above the animals. Moreover the system collapses if everyone takes the leftwing approach of leaching off of others whilst claiming that's what others do. I think you're projecting your own frustrations tbqhfamalam, otherwise you wouldn't have made this retarded thread. You say that as if white genocide is not important, are you a cuck or a nigger? Who exactly do we protest to about parasitic lefty welfare queens and kikes who encourage white genocide? Protesting is usually for faggots who throw tantrums, which is why the left love doing it so much. What do I have to gain from rebelling whilst our numbers aren't big enough? Why should I lose my source of income? There's no point until the vast majority of whites understand that leftism inevitably leads to fags like you, then we can actually make some progress
Brayden Johnson
Women like someone who can help them If your poor you cant help them. Its not they love men with moneybags its called a sense of security. And with 100 000 a year I can pay for my child university. I had a son At 18 years old instead of complaining and blaming capitalism I got my hands dirty I worked. I lived off the same welfare that you did. how does it feel knowing That with your 10g could have made me go to university and become a historian like I always wanted?
Aiden Morris
really makes me think
Colton Johnson
Living on welfare means living in a shit house, eating shit food and living almost like a street bum. But be my guest and try living on welfare alone if you think it's that easy.
The reality is that many people on welfare are cheating the system with unreported employment because living on welfare alone is not possible.
Kevin Jenkins
>15 years of not working or leaving your house later I TAKE IT BACK GUYS
Camden Clark
Yep, those burgers ain't gonna flip themselves buddy.
Don't you get it isn't welfare that's the problem it's (((capitalism))). It's literally impossible to win because the whole point of (((capitalism))) is to make a profit. How do you make a profit? By flooding the market with shitskins who'll do the work for less than the going rate because less than the going rate in a first world country is 6,000,000 times the going rate in some desert shithole. If you work you pay taxes which goes to importing niggers who'll take your job. If you don't work the important niggers will take your job regardless, just you aren't paying for it yourself. And the shitskins who don't work, only come to first world countries for an easy life or they're known criminals and just live on welfare? Well that's part and parcel of living in a (((capitalist))) country desu you'll always get some bad eggs, you don't know what he's been through back home in Bumfuckistan etc. If you're in this thread working your 9-5 you're the very definition of a goy.
Owen Russell
damn that's stupid. let's see >1 you can actually legislate the poor into prosperity by giving them AN OPPORTUNITY which most poor people don't have because they're disadvantaged, ie can't pay for a decent college degree. You can't ever get wealthy if you don't get the chance to fulfill your potential >2 in other news water is wet. does that mean we should let the sick and the elderly just rot away, and not give children a chance to study so that one day they can generate prosperity and then care for us when we're old and sick? >3 is literally the same as 2 >4 nice strawman. whoever said something like this? >5 of course, because you get such an awesome life on welfare amirite? You get a teeny tiny apartment with no a/c maybe even no heating, no car, no vacation trips, no big expenses, no eating out except maybe McShit, no iPhone, no macbook, no gaming PC, no XBOX/PS/Nintendo, no dishwasher and no clothes dryer. OF COURSE HALF THE PEOPLE ARE FINE LIVING LIKE THIS!!! WHO WOULDN'T BE??
Landon Foster
>if you want to justify your laziness, you may do so within a capitalist paradigm, but not a socialist one. I agree with you completely. All of my arguments function even if we exclude socialist narrative. Thing is I'm mostly trying to make you people aware that there is no such thing as morality, justice - that is the final redpill. If I want to leech of others I don't have to excuse myself, only thing you can do is try to stop me.
Alexander Hill
Sup, Sup Forums.
Lets save the white race, the ((kikes)) brainwash women and they dont date me.
Leo Brown
>we should let the sick and the elderly just rot away, Why not? Tell me one argument for a broken, non-profitable unit to be subsidized by the system, bringing everyone else down, instead of thrown away and replaced?
Wyatt Peterson
>Why would I work if I can live of welfare? If you have to ask that question you are probably the kind of degenerate scum that would never understand the answer, which is obvious to actual human beings. sage subhuman posts
Leo Brooks
Black nipples...yuck
Connor Walker
...
Luis Price
Sadly, You are not remotely important enough to be stopped or even cared for, do what you like, like nobody changes the mindset of jihadists, nobody changes the quality of that 1 spoiled egg, u just get thrown and forgotten, have fun with your life in the trash
Grayson Hall
Because it's infantile, humiliating, and sub-human. Your philosophy is a sad rationalization for your worthlessness. If I saw you bleeding to death on the street (and knew you were an adamant welfare bum), I would just keep walking.
Lucas Mitchell
Sup, Sup Forums.
It's the capitalists' fault that I have no job or real education, and that I wasted 4 years of my life and tens of thousands of dollars for a useless "degree." Of course, I can't actually say WHO these capitalists are because that would be antisemitic, and the people who developed my liberating philosophy were Jews.
Jose Diaz
>there is no such thing as morality, justice I agree mostly, and that is why the kikes should be gassed.
Aiden Moore
Problem is that its not voluntary except in theory. Read on dialectial materialism. You can't just start a job from nowhere if there is already a whole capitalist infrastructure of so called free market built around you. If I want to, for example be a carpenter I cant be competitive on market on my own because there are bigger producers, big companies instead of me - a petty and lone carpenter. And this coondition of means of production being in hands of the rich or upper middle class in inherited from feudalism thus - historical dialectics. THis is problem with you capitalist - you believe in some imaginary rationale and have no historical context. Btw nice pic.
Gabriel Edwards
Where did all these furious wageslaves come from? Reddit?
Being NEET is master race. Every day I wake up refreshed from 8 hours of sleep and I read books, lift weights, and eat homecooked, clean food. No take out for me.
Wageslaves, just admit that you're jealous and you'd trade lives with me in a heartbeat. After all, you're just working to retire and do what I'm doing right now. :P
Connor Clark
Nor would anybody hire a third rate carpenter just because he "wanted" to be one, fucking toilet philosopher
Carter Hill
To add to this, the Jews want you to slave at work everyday so you can: A. Pay taxes to fund white genocide B. Be too tired to resist Jewish subversion
Robert Murphy
2. Robots.
Anthony Wood
I live in a shithole so I wouldn't be able to afford anything even if I worked hard. It's easy to say if you were raised in a functional family where you met your father and have a functioning society and steady income in stable family.
Bentley Barnes
Because they can, period.
I hate moral discussions because they divide from reality, yes, they made a ideology so dumbasses would find correct to be exploited, get the power yourself and convince them to serve you.
Blake Cruz
I am also a welfare queen. I am not proud of it but I don't give a fuck or want for anything.
Ryan Walker
NOT WHAT I CALL AN ARGUEMENT
Cooper Young
This. Sabotaging system from within is most effective solution.
Caleb James
...you get to choose what food to eat +infinitely more reasons
Robert Jones
>you can't just be a carpenter right, you should become an apprentice carpenter first, then a journeyman, then a master carpenter >I can't be competitive on my own freelance carpenters are common, as it is in the welding, pipe fitting, boilermaking, etc. trades.
leave it to a fucking communist to never have worked a day in his life, let alone a blue collar job of his "proletariat"
useless people like you get the gulag in your perfect system.
Robert Hernandez
>If I want to, for example be a carpenter I cant be competitive on market on my own because there are bigger producers, big companies instead of me - a petty and lone carpenter. HAHAHA WHAT????? I'm a petty loan Pipefitter and I'm doing fucking fantastic BECAUSE there was an existing infastructure for me to work within. I will read what you recommended but from the way you make it sound I'm thinking that whatever "intellectual" came up with it was someone without any physical talents or prowess. But Comrade, my overall point is this: You can do better than Wel-Fare man. I can tell you're an intelligent person, but - and forgive me for saying this - you seem misguided. If you could put your talents to good use you'd be doing good for yourself and good for society and that's a net good.
Gabriel Nelson
>Dysfunctional family >Fatherless >Shit country >Defeated >Resentful
Oh, here we go. Now comes the real story. Guess what, OP... leave your shit country, grow a backbone, and fucking TRY. You'd be amazed how much you're underestimating yourself.
Angel Bell
>right, you should become an apprentice carpenter first, then a journeyman, then a master carpenter
Dont you see the obvious pyramidal scheme of that?
For what, I aint revolting just to change owner.
Isaiah Hughes
>Because it's infantile, humiliating, and sub-human. why?
Kevin Wood
>Dont you see the obvious pyramidal scheme of that? You're free to make your way up the ranks and start your own pyramid.
Adrian Morris
>you are free to be fucked in the ass or to starve without a job!
You go back to the argument of commie
Aiden Torres
yes yes no no no
Nicholas Williams
>Dont you see the obvious pyramidal scheme of that? >learning skills is a pyramid scheme
apprentice carpenters would be making $12-18 an hour and after 1-3 years would be making about 25-50% more. Most hardcore journeyman and above welders/boilermakers who follow the work make high 5 to 6 digit salaries
or you can be a useless "communist" who has never held a tool and thinks he'd be a card carrying party member as his job in the communist utopia instead of under a sprinkling of lye in a ditch as comrade Jim and Tyrone put down the parasites.
Hudson Watson
>Why would I work if I can live of welfare?
Because in socialist paradise everybody works comrade, and if you don't work, commissar Bernstein will pay a visit to you and send you to work camp.
Gabriel Johnson
>waah waah Bubba got a bigger toy than me mommy break his toy waaaaaaaah :(((((((
Elijah Rogers
>When he ironically becomes a coffee shop hipster libcuck only to realize that makes him unironically a hipster libcuck anyway...
Camden Thompson
>he fell for the hard work meme Good goy! Keep being the pray, I will be a predator.
Gavin Smith
>nuh responsibility Good goy. >thinks celebrities are productive >thinks rich people are productive kek. Chicks go for the unproductive types. You just can't between being productive and taking credit for others' productivity. You going to business school?
my day so far >woke up at 5 because I went for a piss and the moon and stars were still out, looked cool >took photos of moon >took dog for a walk to beach while hungover tradesmen driving past with coffees looking miserable as fuck >checked the surf, no good >drove to dealers house and picked up half an ounce >literally just had brunch, don't have breakfast but had a nice smoked salmon egg and avocado on turkish bread >about to work on unity project Ive been chipping away at >might go for a surf later or get firewood
feelsgoodman
pic related, biggest decision in my day is whether to surf the left or right
Colton Russell
I know in chile the go to is to rob and murder your neighbor but that is why we're building a wall to keep south american niggers in their containment zone.
Jordan Sullivan
Not every minute of every day, you cuck. 4 hour work days, without spending another 4 hours or more working for some useless self-superior obstacle, would be pretty awesome desu.
Ayden Johnson
Theres a line between risk takers and sad people who cannot even bother let alone manage to pick their own ass up, and you fall into the latter, learn the difference
Hunter Clark
pls gib sauce on the whore
Jayden Green
There is a hierarchy, yes. All social interactions have a hierarchy.
Grayson Carter
they can consume which is a very important part of the capitalist experience you dumb sandnigger
Alexander Allen
Problem is, eventually you run out of other people's money.
Imagine if everyone decided to be government teat-suckling NEETs. The government would have no money to pay anyone and you'd become a 3rd world shithole.
Communism/Socialism only works on a small scale.
Mason Rivera
>I'm a petty loan Pipefitter and I'm doing fucking fantastic BECAUSE there was an existing infastructure for me to work within. Okay, but why do I need the middle man, why do I need the existing infrastructure? I don't want them. The final ideal of communism, in my interpretation would be self employment and abolishment of industrial modes of production, division of labour and such - self employment incidentally being also a wet dream of many ancaps and libertarians that I talked to as weill. You see - we do not differ as much in our goals but rather in means of achieving it. >I will read what you recommended Give it a go. You may not like Marx but you might be willing to admit that free market isn't really so free after reading it. >I can tell you're an intelligent person, but - and forgive me for saying this - you seem misguided. Thanks, I guess. I'm trying to make a living as a writer but noone reads poetry these days lol I guess thats the reason why artists and people in social sciences are almost always leftist - our stuff simply isn't marketable.
Easton Flores
Nigger
Sebastian Perry
Ne seri vastaĊĦo!
Matthew Nguyen
They are still a net loss. It's like you're trying to build a perpetuum mobile and have all these inefficient parts in it and you lose energy in each transfer.
It would be more efficient to just remove them, subsidize the excess goods directly, and then throw them away.
Nathaniel Torres
Unemployment and welfare is the cornerstone of a healthy economy.
Zachary Taylor
>the thieves are outside Fucking kek, dont you see how you are exploited by high class thieves? the jew bankers,politicians, the marketer that makes you consume,your boss, your wife(2d?) and so on.
Tell me do you really are doing what you want or you keep rationalizing that your position is "fair" based on some ideology pushed in? Thats literally the untersmench
Connor Adams
You're right. Which is why such systems should be thrown out as it's a system the rewards leeching off of others.
John Wood
Nice bait thread, but workers don't need welfare, bosses who exploit need welfare to calm the masses. Also Communism didn't produce porn.
Aaron Miller
>communist making a living as a writer Why am I not surprised, you know I meet very few communists who actually are laborers.
Yes and my mother is allso crippled but that doesn't disqualify my arguments. You have to accept that there are at least 4 billion people living worse than me. And when we try to leave our countries we are an infestation but when we stay we are poor.
Only thing you can do about that is killing of all the poor people but its reallistically unachievable and poor would revolt.
Mason Hall
>implying only unemployed people leech off others Look outside. See that guy with more cars than he knows what do with and 3 houses? People suffered for that
Oliver Rodriguez
That's right, lets remove capitalism, lets stop leeching of workers by useless capitalists who produce nothing at all.