Peterson collects Soviet art?

Why does Jordan Peterson, avowed anti-Marxist or so it seems, collect extensive amounts of Soviet art all in his home? Why did he name his daughter after Gorbachev? He is often photographed standing in front of obvious prominent socialist art. Surely the explanation is some critical enshrinement of a pseudo utopian time or that Soviet art was a cheap good investment for a bit. But do anti-Nazis collect Nazi art and name their kids after moderate step down leaders like Quisling? Maybe this is a bad comparison, but has anyone heard Peterson explain why he has such a huge Soviet art collection?

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You don't have to support an ideology to admire its artwork soviet art is some of the most striking artwork and is much loved in the art world in the ussr the arts were promoted a hell of alot hence why the ussr produced some of the best artists dancers musicians ect ect of all time

Part of confronting your shadow bucko

To criticize the enemy you must know them. Also

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Because it's fucking awesome

Hunters often mount their prey.

He drinks the tears of his foes

this

SPBP

Soviet approved film sucks and you should kill yourself.

Because he is a pro commie psyop. He mentions commies and soviets so much to condition his listeners to brainwash them into accepting it. Think for yourself.

He loves russian art. He loves russian writers and painters and I don't blame him I find russia to be a very intriging part of the world its history and culture is facinating and tragic but full of cold strength and will.

One of the best war films ever made was a Soviet one

I know star wars is cucked these days but there was a character named thran or something. He was an Imperial admiral and he looked at the art of his foes to get a sense of their culture so he could better his fight against them.

That's what I imagine Peterson is doing.

>not studying the works of your enemy
baka

creative, shill

you are a faggot for real

What one is that?

And russian army ballet is beautiful. It's not something I'd ever thought I'd say but fuck. Just watch. This is astounding skill.

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seems kinda queer

He looks at it and see the ideas and history thats bubbling under the surface

>dancing soldiers

Are you retarded?

better than shit in a jar.

Come and See (1985)

Also, best version - youtube.com/watch?v=PnchjlC7n_Y

it loses all of its beauty when you realize after putting on this charade they were thrown in their gulag again and starved

Just like the 3 soldiers who came from sweden to help the motherland again, only to land in a gulag and be beaten and starved and when people started asking about them they fattened them up and have them parade in front of a camera to show how good the soviets are. After this, they were obviously starved again

"Come and See"

I listen to Red Army choir even though I despise Communism. It's the strange aesthetics I guess

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wtf i hate russia now.

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That seems difficult

The movie is Come and See. Definitely one of the best war movies ever made. Spielberg was (((inspired))) by it when making Saving Private Ryan's Normandy beach scene, difference is that in Russia they use real bombs

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Starts at 29:00

>hence why the ussr produced some of the best artists
lol

>it loses all of its beauty when you realize after putting on this charade they were thrown in their gulag again and starved

Surely they're professional dancers, not soldiers, in the video.

the guy that makes those songs is a racist shitskin fag

Thanks I'll have a look.

There are many cases. One of stalins generals. A very old respected man was at a gala with other military members. He suffered immensely with arthritis. Stalin "requested" that he get up and dance, because he remembered he used to dance so excellently. Stalin knew how much the generals joints pained him. It was a cruel sadistic power play.

The general danced for 20 minutes with tears in his eyes.

Cuz Peterson is a fucking quack and spouts pseudo intellectual drivel. He's literally just scared that his social security will dry up before he dies if everyone stops contributing to the system that pays into it. His house will be worthless if the next generation doesn't want to buy it. He wont be able to leech off his children if they don't buy into the same shitty game that he fell for.

Ideological inconsistency is just par for the course when your a university professor with nothing to do other than rub your handful of brain cells together.

All you cucks paying him 50 grand a month so he can indulge his social realist commie art collection, suckers.

Because it has historical significance.

Fpbp

Artists then, just means they weren't political prisoners but if you think they got a better treatment than others you need to read more about that era
The only people who had it got were the blatnye, criminals

soviet art is awesome and i hate commies. I wanna learn from thier propoganda. I think stalin is aweful but he won cause he is litterally the man of steel. But lets gas commies tho please

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Reverse search says that pic is NYC. Wtf? I heard NYC was shit but I never would have guessed that was in NYC.

t. country boy

Both. The soviet military had a section comprised of the best musicians, dancers and entertainers from across eastern Europe to perform for propaganda and state purposes.

The tradition still somewhat carries on today with both the Russian police force and army having a "Red Orchestra."

looks like the projects, do you even burger ?

I burger, but I live in a white rural area in the south. The closest thing to projects I've seen irl are a few neighborhoods with old rundown shotgun houses and those are a good 30 min drive away. The only truly big city I've ever been to was Tokyo so I didn't see any projects. I consider myself lucky.

Because Commie art is better because the profit motive destroys art.

quite a brilliant idea, its like some art left behind a fallen empire but this time, a very modern order

well what the fuck else is he supposed to collect, capitalist """"art""""?

kek I thought that was taken in Soviet Russia. I lived in the Bronx, should have known better

Man, the day when am I required to justify my art collection is the day when you rise to number one in your local domino hierarchy, OP.

Best description I think I've heard of it.
I collect soviet memorabilia. Uniforms, posters, lighters, etc. It gives you a strange feeling looking over it all. An entire superpower risen, destroyer of nations, and rival to the west and then fell in less than a persons lifetime.

Imagine joining a little fledgling communist party, fighting in the October revolution, for soviet russia, establishing the government, seeing it spread across the world, become enormous and at the end of your life seeing all of it receding and collapse. One lifetime.

The USSR and central planning do have an utopian feel to theme. When you picture a very advanced alien civilization you picture it as either social democrat of using central planning. Also Jesus was an anti-capitalist.

>implying Republicans have morals and the whole party isn't just a facade to trick the working class and disenfranchised to vote against their own interests.

OP, look up what he taught when he was a professor.

Because it's aesthetic, he studies things he finds interesting, etc.

I am cuba is great though...

Because, sometimes its cool. You don't need a reason to pick up good looking stuff.

Soviet National anthem? Terrible country, awesome anthem.

>Because he is a pro commie psyop.
This. There is no other reason to have commie art. Nothing wrong with real Christian Russian art, or naming your child after a Christian Russian, like the Tsar's name or his kids' names, but naming them after commies, and displaying commie art around your home - Nope. Just tells me you are a commie.

maybe he enjoys studying the aesthetics.
I see nothing wrong with that.

Don't kill yourself.

Soviet artwork is a prime example of what happens when you allow the state to control all artistic expression under the reasoning that art being a form of expression it is naturally a form of propaganda and therefore needs to be controlled in order to extol the virtues of the worker state and show the degeneracy of Capitalism.

I think he explained in the last Joe Rogan interview or in the transmedia one.

uh he likes gorbachev because he helped end the cold war and enacted reforms that were at least meant to improve the lives of the repressed soviet citizenry.

and some of the art is of soviet dissidents or artists who were purged

pretty much every collector justifies their collection in some way or another. even if it as simple as liking a color or shape.

i wasn't asking whether soviet art is good but if peterson himself ever explained his special focus on it.

and learning about your 'enemy's' art vs. investing in enormous amounts of it is a rather large jump to indulge your jungian shadow.

seems more like Peterson might have been pro-Marx in his early Uni days just like almost everyone else was back then

Why is it so beautiful then? I figured everything the government is involved with is shit?

Are you implying there is no current cold war?

It's easy to produce beautiful art when you can hand pick the best artists from a community and tell them they will now produce patriotic works for the people to enjoy. You reward them for producing their best by feeding them more and giving them more privileges than a worker would have but also reminding them that failure to produce proper art would result in him being sent from his cushy life to a mine where he would break big rocks into small rocks all day.

If he complains or is late on piece of art just pack him in a car and drive him to a quarry and tell him about how hard these people work to further the prosperity of the workers state and to provide for their common man. Then drive him home hand him a bottle of vodka and give him a smile.

From what I understand he was somewhat socialist but never went full-Marx.
Him talking briefly about it with Molymeme youtube.com/watch?v=HcEJr8h_yGM&t=1h10m23s

>Why is it so beautiful then? I figured everything the government is involved with is shit?
Why wouldn't it be? It's the same patronage system from the renaissance.

And in proper socialist countries, like ex Yugoslavia, they cared more about the quality of the work than the propaganda value, so you have examples of extremely anti-system films funded by the state film board, etc.

Because he is anti right wing shill trying to moderate and subvert a far right revival

Your fields of interest tend to seep into other facets in life. I fucking hate the Soviet Union and communism, but it's weaponry and military fascinates me so I keep posters, models, and guns that hail from that brand of "aesthetic".

Philosophical interests also creep up; I named my son Marcus (after Aurelius).

I listen to ET by Katy Perry even though I hate the cunt, and pip music in general, and I think it's a terrible product of Jewish influence on western culture. I believe she is a demonic whore from hell hell-bent on corrupting our daughters.

But goddamn is ET a catchy song. Haven't heard anything else by her, and the o ly reason I know about ET is cause some autist on here edited it into a Hitler worship video. The lyrics of the song, and the video went well together.

Peterson is a proud Marxist, the whole reason he became the "anti sjw" professor is because he understands what kind of people it takes to unleash True Commusism and found a bunch of neon haired media-fundamentalist idiots to be severely lacking

>collect anime
>become japanese
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Nah, he goes full retard on Marxism in some vids...

He legitimately hates it. If not, he deserves an oscar.

What is that, an infographic for ants?

Nailed it.

Currently watching hours of YouTube content on her right now. I feel bad I use to hate her. Now I just feel... Sorry for her. Her recent LIVE stream is really eye-opening. She really just might get redpilled. Like REALLY!

Parents voted Trump, she's alright with that, they have convos and she says she learns from them.-Her pastor father she used to hate. she's a devout Christian. She's holding up her beliefs against Neil deGrasse Tyson.

BTW, ET is even about the existence of God existing in the universe watching over I just heard her say not too long ago.

Her mind is fucked up, but she is really trying. slowly but surely. Why she cut her hair is even something.
awake is a good message too, especially is she's telling the truth that she writes her own songs.

Do you seriously think that's how the Soviet Union was? Maybe druring Stalin -not before or after

I know that. I just wanted to hear libertarian mental gymnastics.