Someone redpill me on adderall

I know it has some harmful side effects but what really is bad with adderall and stimulants? They seem kind of like a miracle drug to me

Personally, having adhd n stuff, i was on a serious does of this stuff, like 40mg daily. When i hit middle school, its where it all started to go downhill. Lost 60 lbs in a month, bc no appetite, little to no sleep, and very low blood pressure/sugar due to idk, and extremely nauseous most of the time. I don't take anymore bc of this. 5 years later I'm still recovering from the side effects.

TL;DR they make you unhealthily skinny and feel sick -was at 6 percent body fat at one time so call me an african.

stimulants dont do me shit, I am already overloaded with dopamine 24/7, what i like is booze

What sort of effects from taking them that long ago?

dude aderall is big pharma meth, like why is this even a question

Literally legal meth. My chemistry professor in college took 15 minutes tangent to ward people off abusing adderall. His main point that resonated with me was that its chemical structure is very similar to meth, resulting in about a 1/4 potency to a meth hit.

As a nonretard who then used them occassionally to power through engineering courses or as a cheaper alternative to cocain, I cant believe they perscribe this shit to children. I take a single 20mg pill and I can split it into THREE doses for me, and Im a 6'4 300lb fatty. Really the point where I realized that (((doctors))) are just sanctioned drug dealers not far removed than some corner nigger.

That being said, stimulants are best drugs because it makes you productive, unlike depressants or opioids.

> It makes you really productive.
> Boring shit like cleaning your room or the dishes becomes actually fun.
> You are disgusted at the thought of eating so you lose weight.
> You're really confident and feel like you can do anything.
> Everything is interesting.
> Comedown is kinda bad but not coke-tier horrible.

The only real downsides is they will keep you awake for ages, potentially days and days on end if you keep re-dosing, AND, they can result in ridiculously long masturbation sessions. This latter point sounds funny but it's deadly serious. There have been times I've just sat in a chair and masturbated for like 20 hours on adderral. Not only is that a collossal waste of time, your body is full of craps from sitting in the same position so long. Your ass literally starts to hurt from sitting in the same position. This is the kind of spergy hyperfocus adderral can inspire.

That said, if you must be on drugs, there's certainly worse you can do than adderral. It really does make you superhuman productive if you can resist the urge to masturbate, and the effects last a really long time.

I need to rub the dick. How fucked am i ?

This is the closest thing to truth in the thread.
t. doctor with ADHD

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

Oh don't take Adderall to make yourself horny. For a lot of people it decreases their sex drive. It can even give you ED. Of course for other people it can make them unbelievably horny, like how methheads have nasty multiday fuck seshes when they're on a bend.

You sound exactly like a friend of mine, he's on wellbutrin now. I'm on ritalin, and that stuff just works. Couldn't do many of the stuff I've done without it.

I didn't notice a lot of side-effects, the eating less part is actually beneficial to me, because I quit smoking and if I wasn't on ritalin, I would've ate a lot.

I take 20 mg because I work odd hours as a nurse. It helps keep the grogginess away, and keep me focused and motivated.

I've had adderall off and on since high school. There have been times where I get deep into that stuff though. I remember they used to fill a 3 month supply of the stuff - 90 pills - back when I was in high school. I would go on binges, taking up to 100mg in one day.

Everyone in here is right about losing your appetite and the frequent urge to masturbate for hours. When I was younger I used to play guitar for hours and hours straight getting better.

Cleaning the house, organizing your shit, washing your car, etc. all are suddenly so much more fun and you care more about it.

Studying is super easy on adderall.

Shit-posting on Sup Forums is fun on adderall too.

I love adderall.

low blood pressure/sugar because you weren't eating or sleeping

this is something that needs to be carefully monitored. losing 60 lbs sounds literally impossible, short of you having your legs cut off, but any extreme weight fluctuation should have been a red flag to your parents or teachers

you probably still need adderall, which is what you attribute to "recovering" 5 years later- you don't feel "all there" because the meds helped your cognitive function but fucked up your physiology because you were being neglected

>tfw in America u can legaly use drug what use Reich soldiers on east front
GOD BLESS AMERICA

Provigil is better.

Muh dick shrinks everytime I do any amphetamines. Also, a literal Jew put me on this shit as a kid but i never liked them so I just sold them instead. Now that im older and have tried everything under the son, including IV/smoking meth, i know just how close adderall is to meth. It makes me wanna cry when I think of how Jews are handing this shit out to 5 year olds

not gonna fuck with it
buying *finil instead

I eat em everyday, and I'm glad I have it. No bad side effects and I couldn't do much without it.

The government recently put me on the stuff after being diagnosed with add. The opposite of adhd.

If you're wondering if they make you smarter or anything, i don't experience that. I just feel like i don't run out of steam after 30 minutes and there's less fuzz in my head. I can focus on one thing and not be distracted.

I have a degree in psychology and neuroscience. there is nothing to suggest that there are negative longterm effects to using therapeutic doses of amphetamines orally

IV and smoking meth are not even close to being in the same ballpark as taking dextroamphetamine orally. those two routes of administration (smoking/IV) could literally not be more different from a metabolic standpoint than the much smoother plasma concentration/time curve for oral ingestion

Use it for a couple of months or years and you see, retard. It is not nearly as useful as you imagine in your amphetamine-fueled superman syndrome, then again it is not nearly as dangerous as the government says.

>makes you productive
Until you run out of speed and your productivity is like 10% of what is was before amphetamines.

It is a nice short-term solution if you manage to control your use, long-term you can just prepare to be asleep without amphetamines.

>if you can resist the urge to masturbate
Nobody on Sup Forums can resist the urge to masturbate. Now go smoke some meth, masturbator!

It's just a brand name for meth. It has its uses.

>resist the urge to masturbate
Also: stim dick. You end up masturbating a shrimp. Have fun!

Hey ladyboy, it is amphetamine, meth is methamphetamine. This is like saying morphine is heroin. Christ, you dorks don't know anything about drugs.

ADD is not the opposite of ADHD. ADD is Attention Deficit Syndrome and ADHD is Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Syndrome. You see? One has hyperactivity and the other doesn't.

You people are so retarded I have to educate you about your own diagnoses. How the hell are you able to lead society when you don't even know anything about your own mental condition.

Start a fight and get your adrenaline the way God intended.

how to get prescription for?
like what do you tell the doctors

scientists only understand the raw math of what makes a drug potent, they don't really understand the true nature of it
regardless of similarity in chemical structure the difference between taking one 20MG adderall XR for work/school during the day and typical recreational doses of meth snorted or smoked is like a precisely loosened faucet of dopamine vs smashing the sink and flooding your house.

Yes one has hyperactivity and the other doesn't So they are opposites. What are you saying?

If you have add you tend to be very slow and tired. If you have adhd you tend to be hyperactive.

Brand name for meth is Desoxyn.

>like a precisely loosened faucet of dopamine vs smashing the sink and flooding your house.
kek, have your well-earned (You).

If you need speed, you're worthless. It's like playing life with cheat codes turned on. Sure you do better, but deep down you know that you're cheating and you're a pathetic worthless fuck.

>tldr you take speed to pretend you aren't pathetic, try just not being pathetic

amphetamines are very effective at certain doses only for a short period of time. for me, adderal would raise my iq about 20 points for 180 minutes. after a redose my iq is 10 points higher than normal and i'm good for about 150 minutes. this repeats until about 10 hours or so and i'm just wired and unable to function at all. adderal is only useful in small doses for a short period of time. the longer you use it, the dumber and more pychotic you become.

It cured my depression and made me more productive while not on the drug. I discovered that the biggest benefit from adderall is that it gives you a desire to do the activities you did while on the adderall, even after its influence has worn off

The best thing to do is to take it sparingly, so that you avoid the serious side effects. A low, yet sufficient dose taken once or twice each week, if not less.

From my experience though, masturbation can be the biggest problem with the drug. Last time I took the drug I became sexually aroused because I saw porn I saw while browsing chans. I ended up masturbating 6 times and stayed up all night.

Also, one interesting thing that I've encountered from adderall is that it changed my sexual desires. I used to never masturbate to hentai and it's now the only thing I masturbate to, because I masturbated to it while on the drug. I actually don't mind it though, because it feels less degenerate than other forms of pornography.

I got my prescription for Ritalin with a diagnosis of ADHD when I was in like 4th grade. It didn't work, so I went off of any meds for ADHD until probably 10th grade, but then we tried Adderall instead and it "worked" like a charm. Legal speed for a 15 year old....oh yeah, baby.

As far as it goes now, I would think it would be as easy as getting a script for legal weed out west. Just go to a doctor and complain of some vague symptoms and say your friend/cousin/sibling had the same symptoms but when they took the drug the symptoms were gone.

For adderall, it's probably easiest to get it if you're a student because you can say that you have friends that take it and it works for them and you "did some research" and you think you have ADHD. Most doctors will just do it. If you get them, go for the 30mg XR and just split them into smaller doses over a few days each pill.

Or take 4 and fap for 15 hours.

add = adhd-inattentive, adhd= adhd

Amphetamine and other stims are awesome.
It's humans and their lack of self-control that are the problem.

PS: If you think amphetamine and methamphetamine are bad, give a-PHP/a-PVP a week-long taste to gain some perspective on what IS and IS NOT bad.

you can't get away with cheating using ampetamines, they are only useful for a short period of time. you can take it during your SAT's or MCAT ect and you will get a better result, but it wont matter because if you haven't studied hard enough, adderal will not give you enough of an edge to get a good grade.

>speed is only useful for a short boost

If you have ADD/ADHD you are having a disadvantage and amphetamines make you normal. Go suck your balls, normie!

>because it feels less degenerate than other forms of pornography.
I know this sensation. It doesn't feel dirty or broken. 3D truly is PD.

>It's humans and their lack of self-control that are the problem.

This user is correct. The drug has utilitarian applications. Stupid people who are irresponsible and abuse it for recreational purposes are the reason why it's a controlled substance in the first place.

lost
but aderall isnt exactly the same amphetamine derivate that pervitin is.

are you fucking kidding me? after 15 hours of smoking blue meth i ended up in Mordor. things were not good man. hospitals and jails were a bi weekly thing. i don't use anymore it's been nearly 3 years, but i must tell you that meth is the most dangerous drug i've ever seen.

>yes i'm sure there are more dangerous drugs out there that no one uses because they suck or the high sucks

you're a fiend my friend. some people just go nuts with stimulants, but most people i know don't even think about sex at all on the stuff. though your greentext is pretty spot on.

they might make you feel normal but you definitely dont actually feel normal
add/adhd isnt just one big disadvantage either, im sure it has its upsides.

Addies make me fuck like a champ and helped me make it through college. Snort the generics or boof em.

ADD, ADHD, Autism, Aspergers... whatever you call it is all part of a group of made up disorders to drug while male children into mediocrity and submission by suppressing their natural male instincts. The vast majority of kids prescribed adderall are white males. It is to make them calm and boring so they be programmed for a life of cuckdom.

You're a fucking idiot.. Nobody would use cocaine to study. Doesn't last long enough you retard. I hate wannabe drug users. Kys

>for me, adderal would raise my iq about 20 points for 180 minutes. after a redose my iq is 10 points higher than normal and i'm good for about 150 minutes.

IQ points don't raise and lower like some dbz power level, faggot.

Exactly! It is truly great for ADHD people, but even then you will soon discover that you are actually dependent on amphetamines for your ability to concentrate, which starts a cycle of tolerance and addiction.

I am all for ADHD people using stimulant medications, only a reminder that there are some problems with stimulants even in medical use.

The added dopamine levels also make you think you are a superhuman compared to your normal self. Let me assure you this is true if you have ADHD, otherwise some of it is brainfuck.

He should die

"No really I'm not just pathetic and undisciplined, I have muh disorder so gibs me dat speed"

You sound mad because you don't have a script. lmfao

>no sleep
>no appetite
>nauseous and losing weight
>lost 60lbs in one month

Amazing. It's almost as if prescribing kids what is essentially meth has terrible side effects.

Vaping a-PVP makes Mordor look like a vacation. And you will learn to love it. That's the scary thing. It makes you an orc. Not the drug mind you. Yourself. a-PVP/a-PHP will unlock the most naturally chaotic part of YOU.

To me, getting sober/crashing after a 6+ day binge of a-PHP is the best high ever. NOTHING feels better than actually feeling sanity come back into you. I mean literally feeling sanity return to my body and spirit. Shit is amazing.

They don't drug you for aspergers.

Pervitin was meth. Now let's say amphetamines is beer and meth is hard liquor. Can you see the difference?

ikr
life isnt supossed to be easy
I'd be coked out of my mind right now if that could be an actual excuse to snort hard drugs

Haven't gone more than 6.5 hours myself...

You're fucked dude,
I took concerta and
>could fuck all night like I was a teen again
>study endless hours
>picked up piano
>read a book
>lost weight
>worked out
>ate well
I was away more interesting on the drug than off.
I think you've got your nostalgia glasses on and everyone just got boring when you grew up.

ok you can also lift more weights while you are high on meth. you can run longer distances (if you don't die from a heart attack) etc. when i was in high school the first time i took the sat i was sober and got 670 on math. the second time i took aderall and got a 790. you can calculate quicker for a short period.

>they can result in ridiculously long masturbation sessions
I can attest to this, if you have a fapping problem be careful. Either way never take it every day, if you don't take breaks you will need to increase your dose and that makes every negative aspect of the drug way worse.

Now you forget the most dangerous drug of all: alcohol.

I absolutely refuse to believe any of these drugs are more dangerous than alcohol. Maybe some research chemicals can be even more damaging.

i remember stats from the early 2000s that said that 80% of people in jail west of the Mississippi River were in on a charge related to meth and 80% of people on meth started with prescription amphetamines. Adderal is one of the primary Gateway Drugs.

The smartest guy I knew in college was a chemistry major, he told me addy is pretty much legal speed. Having done both I can confirm it sure as fuck felt that way.
I always spaced it out - took addy a few days every three months or so to study for exams. blows my fucking mind that doctors prescribe it to children to take every day, literally madness

Not even. Tweakers are scum. All a man needs is coffee and weed like the good lord Satan intended.

>on ritalin
>Can't do most of the stuff I've done without it

You do realize that all you are doing is drugging your natural state of mind and subconscious right? You are basically too big of a pussy to handle reality.

Vyvanse is better

Adderal is heavier on the your adrenal system, HPA-axis, liver, etc.
Ritalin is too crappy, doesnt give you enough for the side effects it ensues, Venvanse is where its at
But if you are enjoying these kinds of meds on a long term basis, you probably have ASD or ADHD (or just some dopamine transfer déficit)

Adderall can be easily abused

Ritalin/Concerta less so but they aren't as fun to take.

this guy knows what the fuck is up
that's one reason judging if adderall is good for you is so tricky, because either way it will make you feel like a million bucks, either because you have a dysfunction and now feel like you can control yourself or because you're normal and probably have an inflated opinion of yourself to begin with and now you feel like robo jesus

>his power level, I mean his IQ is 100
>oh no! he just took adderall
>his power level, I mean his IQ is now.....ONE-TWENTY!!!!
>he's smarter now!!!

This is what you sound like, Allen.

So are you saying amphetamines are amphetamines, you twat? Or do you mean illegal amphetamines have the same chemical structure as legal amphetamines?

The difference is your pharmacy speed is 100% pure while illegal stuff is like 10%. Therefore something like 100mg of pharmacy speed has the potency of 1g of street speed.

what a nowhere statement

why do you believe alcohol is so damaging? im pretty sure the only way it affects your health in the short term is reduced physical condition and some memory problems
and its not like you wont be able to stop drinking after one night of doing it

meth eventually releases your worst nightmares if you use it long enough. what is pvp/php anyway? i know it's a research chem, but what type of drug is it?

Look, stimulants are addictive? Yes. But when they are the most indicated drug to treat a condition, thats like saying diabetics are addicted to insulin.The cycle of tolerance and addiction is true of most amphetamines and amphetamine like drugs, except for venvanse, which boasts an almost non existing tolerance curve, little side effects compared to other drugs, etc.

Otherwise you are correct

>I could do tweaker shit because I was on speed

What a surprise. Of course though you are right. Nothing wrong with bombarding young developing minds with powerful narcotics.

>I ended up masturbating 6 times and stayed up all night.
>mfw I have that w/o drugs and I'm 30 years

Adderal is a dextro amphetamine. A blend of 4 out of 5 amphetamine types. Not meth but all the others.

That is the superman syndrome caused by the amphetamines. Your brain is so full of dopamine you think you are übermensch!

I think you will get more done due to dopamine-induced motivation and energy, but more intelligent? Bullshit. You can solve problems better when you bang your head on them for hours and hours longer than normally.

it's actually alan. but yes, for a short period of time (few hours) it makes you mentally and physically stronger.

Used to snort it before big tests in high school. Shits great. If people didn't abuse the shit we could use it much like coffee or energy drinks. Sadly even those are abused by people.

>speed
>100% pure
xd

How do I get adderall?

Now the magic pill makes you even physically stronger.

It actually elevates your blood pressure and heart rate, which I think means you are physically weaker.

Also: stim dick!

Pharmacy speed, you retard. If your pharmacy dose is 10mg it is easily equivalent something like 100mg of the stuff coming from your illegal speed labs in Netherlands.

I'd recommend vyvanse. Much cleaner, no crash if you treat your body properly. Personally, I still have an appetite when I take them. But the few times when I was extremely busy and pushed through lunch, the crash was present. Not serious, just felt lagged, foggy, and slightly irritable. I'm 6'1 200lbs and take 20mg, plenty to push me into an extreme productivity mode.
If your under 20, you shouldn't be taking this shit though. I can't imagine how it was be beneficial during your brains peek development.

Cause alcohol makes you a fucking idiot, something I have not experienced with other substances.

i think unless you have fairly substantial adhd symptoms/dopamine issues taking it as much as most people take caffeine would most likely constitute abuse.

>therapeutic doses of amphetamines
I have a degree in neuro too, probably from a better school than you no offense. until we fully understand the biological substrates of consciousness it's fucking retarded to discard common sense and only consider these kinds of studies. I get that for a journal article or whatever it's all you can go on, but we're not just talking research here, we're talking intuition about what is a good choice for society. And there is no fucking way that dosing children on this shit en masse is a good choice, be real

adderall >>> vyvanse >>> dogshit pills >>> ritalin

They are all a waste of time though. Muh comedown/cleaner/etc bullshit all comes down to strength in the drug. However if you pick one it should be adderall

>what is pvp/php anyway?
If amphetamine is about a 5 on the stim scale, and meth is a 9, crack a 10...
Vaped a-PHP is an 11, vaped a-PVP is a 13, and vaped MDPV is a solid 15. That's on a scale of 0-10.
Pyrovalerones are VERY potent stimulants, that are extremely morish and can easily lead to insanity. Very tough nuts to crack. You need a strong mind to handle them and even then you're in for a hard ride.
For most people they'd be pure hedonistic wastes that end in the psych ward/jail. For people who can appreciate batshit insanity and lots of fucking shadow people, they're fucking awesome. Nothing else in this world can match them toe-to-toe for how powerful they are as stimulants. Not even methamphetamine.

Adderal given to children is child abuse. It has replaced the ruler in schools.

I was on vyvanse for a year, dose was too high, fixed my school but after school I would basically just masturbate till sleep.
I switched to Attentin (Dexedrine), and just take 2,5mg when I need to do work, works far better.