Honest question: Why does Sup Forums care so much about Christianity? Were you all raised Christian...

Honest question: Why does Sup Forums care so much about Christianity? Were you all raised Christian? Are Protestants or Methodist? Which version of Christianity is the most important?

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We should all unite behind Christ to repel the infidels.

Jesus was Jewish you fool

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They don't love God at all, it's just "cultural Christianity" tied with Nationalism which has nothing to do with the saving power and grace of God.

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
(Matthew 7:21-23)

If a man says, I love God, and hates his brother, he is a liar: for he that loves not his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?
(1 John 4:20)

He that loves not knows not God; for God is love.
(1 John 4:8)

Christianity is the foundation of Western Civilisation and without it there would be no America. To preserve Christianity is to preserve American values.

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"Love" in this context does not mean kumbaya boundless tolerance like your mommy you autist

Because they won't admit they are just as retarded as muslims, so they need to glorify their shitty religion constantly. Most Sup Forums christians are low iq burgers.

>OP:
>They don't love God at all, it's just "cultural Christianity" tied with Nationalism which has nothing to do with the saving power and grace of God.

Rofl, this is just you being a dick. Sup Forums has folks at any hour able to go into the Greek and Hebrew texts, and able to go deep into the history of canonization. They largely reject "cultural Christianity" and it's obvious if you come here to do more than just troll. I bet you're responsible for half the black dick pics

Christianity is a retarded jewish fairy tale for the slaves in the Roman empire.

Its a garbage-tier religion, which threw back Europe 500 years.

They helped elect Donald Trump. Get used to saying his name.

Anglican, 1611, common prayer.

Its the foundation of the west.

If Islam is all about power, and judaism is all about socialism, christianity is all about freedom with responsabilities.

Its by far, the best religion, and this is comming from a seasoned atheist.

After seeing so many people on Sup Forums talk about Christianity I decided to open up my Bible and read a bit more. I was already familiar with all the basics so I opened it near the beginning and read some of Isaiah.

Literally right there in the Bible it talks about how all the wealth and power of the gentiles will be given to Israel and that the gentiles and Kings of the world will come to Jews for advice.

100% Cucked.

It's a basic foundation for a child to learn not to be a shit and to care about their community.

That, and every single person who blasts Christianity for being "bigoted" sucks Muslim cock and praises Islam. The push against it is Globalism therefor I've taken up the faith anew.

whay created the universe though

>Fingolians going all out

Wew.

The Bible clearly calls us to love our enemies and bless those who persecute us. This does not mean we are to be naive or pacifist, but rather to never fight fire with fire, but fight evil with good, because vengeance is for the Lord, he will repay.

We are called to be perfect, like our heavenly Father is perfect, who sends his rain on the just and the unjust, and loves all people unconditionally. That's why Jesus said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do" when he got humiliated, beat up, and crucified.

I'm not responsible for any pics, and people here are definitely cultural Christians except for a few who actually got it right.

Rip the sacred flesh
Sodomize the holy asshole
Drink the red blood of the mother of earth
Masturbation on the dead body of Christ
The king of Jews is dead
and so are the lies
Vomit on the host of Heaven
Masturbate on the throne of God
Break the seals of angels
Drink the sweet blood of Christ
Taste the flesh of the priest
Sodomize holy nuns
The king of Jews is a liar
The Heavens will burn
Dethrone the son of God
God is dead
Holyness is gone
Purity is gone
Prayers are burned
Covered in black shit
Rape the holy ghost
Unclean birth of Jesus Christ
Heaven will fall
Fuck the church
Fuck Christ
Fuck the Virgin
Fuck the gods of Heaven
Fuck the name of Jesus

Christianity is the source of all things good in modern society

I mostly care cause woman are childish and it's a good thing for them to believe in god. It becomes a responsibility for men to have belief so new society glues togheter.

I'm a loner hypocrite but if I ever escape north to some remote homestead l intend to teach my family about it in a "it's good to believe in spirit and a higher purpose in order to be a good person"-way.
I however will mix it with race realism and more so we will see how it will turn out, I honestly think I'll die when shtf, I'm too much of an autist for this, also with how much a feminist upbringing wrecked me personally.

Jesus does call on us to love one another but there is also such a doctrine as "Just War" It isn't holy to allow someone to murder and slaughter, It isn't holy to allow your people to die.

>I'm not responsible for any pics, and people here are definitely cultural Christians except for a few who actually got it right.

Lurk more and learn something

Raised in an atheist family. Always cynical about God. Was saying things like "if God was real then he's a cunt because of all the suffering" as a teenager (yes, I know, like a meme) before this was basically compulsory thinking for liberals.

But here are some facts:

*Stable* long-term civilization emerged in one and ONLY one place: Western Europe.
>everything else is a meme, fuck off with your fake history
It then spread to America. These countries invented EVERYTHING.
>muh handful of discoveries of non-European people from 1,000 years or more ago
We have systems of relatively peaceful, relatively law abiding, relatively honest societies - and that's why rich fuckers from China and the Middle East and everywhere else that likes to talk a big game but is basically shit want to send their kids here and move here themselves.

And the communities that built these societies where nothing like that had existed before? ALL RELIGIOUS CHRISTIANS.

So much good has been done by selfless religious people. It is literally (((Frankfurt School))) poison to insist on focusing on the downsides of organized religion.

I'm probably going to move again for work soon. Gonna start reading the Bible when I next have a bit of down time to work on it. And will probably unironically join my local church when I do.

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>They don't love God at all, it's just "cultural Christianity"

This.
Jordan B. Peterson is to Christianity what Reza Aslan is to Islam.

Plz quote you LARPer.
And which version of bible?
Christian Orthodoxy is the way my son.

>infidels.

it worked
other stuff might not

>Christianity is to preserve American values

Christianity is the opposite of your shit American values.
The Bible has more in common with the Qu'ran than with Atlas Shrugged and your degenerate libertarian capitalist filth.ö

I double checked and this one wasn't at the beginning, more like the middle, but it's Isaiah 60. In the New King James Version it literally says:

"The Gentiles shall come to your light and kings to the brightness of your rising" etc etc

"And your heart shall swell with joy; Because the abundance of the sea shall be turned to you, The wealth of the Gentiles shall come to you."

It's all talking about God's covenant and how the "Redeemer will come to Zion" and how the lord will bless the Jews. I honestly don't see how you can redeem these sorts of things with a healthy religion for Whites. I like the traditionalism of Orthodoxy and the old school Catholics but how can you read things like this and want to continue worshiping a Jewish god like that?

you are reading the old testament. they broke thier covenant with god and its why they were cast out from isreal. Also they are of the synagogue of Satan now.

>Books of Isaiah

Also, New King James? Really? 1611 or nothing, seriously.

That's a plausible explanation but are there any mainstream churches that believe that? I feel like if I walked into an average church and said that Jews had broken their covenant with God and that they no longer are the chosen people I would get thrown out (especially if I mentioned that they are a synagogue of Satan even though a lot of famous Christian leaders did agree with that). Maybe I'm just entirely naive.

a lot of churches dont even talk about that part. but its in the bible. Christians dont believe they owe anything to jews since they had christ crucified. but since they are people just like any other they should be treated just like anyone else. The church is meant to spread Joy and love and family values not hatred. I am only upset with them because they are repeating history once again by trying to control our country and brainwash the people with bad media. Did you know the first curse word allowed on television was G Damnit. It was a direct attack on Christianity. And we are taught not to cower away from evil. this is why I tell people about this part of the bible.

Well, why are those books there if they aren't any good? Serious question.

I double checked online with the 1611 version and the 1599 Geneva one and they all had those passages translated mostly the same.

I don't know, I guess I'm just confused. I'm interested in Christianity, it's the religion of my forefathers, and I understand that it was in many ways the foundation of the modern West. I go to a "top" university in a liberal city though so literally the only Christian stuff around me is "Christians for LGBTQKDJFKJD+" and other nonsense.

No no, you're right these passages are pretty much the same in this case but the 1611 is the original authorized translation, anything based on it and released later has obviously changed something. And seeing as the language is completely understandable even 400 years later, what needed changing?

If you're happy with carrying on with the NKJV then that's fine but try to cross reference, there's been a lot of controversy over the many KJV versions and translations, subtle things get changed that alter the entire meaning and tone of sections. Obviously that's no good.

Would you really trust a bible rewritten, not just reproduced, in the 80s?

Alright, well thanks for taking time to respond. I've got to go soon otherwise I'd continue conversing. There's a church near me that does the Tridentine Mass, maybe I'll go check that out. I've never been to a Catholic church but if they advertise the traditional stuff maybe they'll be a good place to learn more.

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Raised as a protestant and taught to hate the catholic church with all the typical lies and slander
>muh whore of Babylon
>muh indulgences
>much pedo priests
>muh Mary worship

Apostatised because protestantism is a meme religion and hilariously retarded and contradictory
>sola scriptura does not exist in scripture

Sung profesionally as a job at the catholic church and for the first time felt the divine presence of the holy spirit

Got tempted by Satan

Still an apostate.

Election happened, realised Satan is real and worshipped by the Jews. Prayed and god directed me towards the traditions of the church. Learn about apostolic succession and the writings of the early church fathers. Realised, by the guidance and grace of the holy spirit, that catholicism, specifically Roman, is the way.

Finally the original catholic and apostolic church instituted by Jesus himself.

Don't ever step foot in a Cuckolick church

Well it's worth keeping in mind that many would consider the KJV in its many forms a Protestant bible. Obviously.

yes it is you retarded faggot

2 Timothy 3:16King James Version (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

not all jes do that but certainly the elites believe in satan and do worship him complete with human sacrifice. Just check out ritual abuse survivors.

Doesn't say scripture alone. Try again.

Also why are you raising a catholic flag when you hate the catholic church?

So are you saying that if we could convert other people, they would be "better"?

What you guys need to realize is that classical morality existed long before any modern religion.

The ten commandments, and traditional morality are not necessary to appease some deity they are long term survival strategies. When civilization steps away from these practices it always leads to a collapse.

The ultimate red pill is accepting that you do not need religion for a reason to be moral.

christians and non-believers must unite and fight the sandniggers.

There are no Christians anymore. There's just a bunch of people that cherry pick out religious text that justifies their own beleifs and tries to shove it down the throats of others. These people don't even go to church because they hate they idea that someone else woudl tell them what to do.

God is their sock puppet

ya whatever fag. this country was founded on christian values. Western civilization for that matter.

>Why does Sup Forums care so much about Christianity? Were you all raised Christian? Are Protestants or Methodist? Which version of Christianity is the most important?
Not all of us do. No. Neither. None of them, they're all shit worshipping a jewish carpenter who probably didn't exist.

>Are Protestants or Methodist

That's like asking are you a nigger or an ethiopian.

Western civilization and democracy were founded by distinctly non-Christian cultures through the Greeks and later, Romans. Christianity co-opted it and allowed for the rise of feudalism.

Roman co-opted christianity though. I'm mainly talking about this country anyway.

>Why does Sup Forums care so much about Christianity?
Because God actually exists and imbues the university with purpose beyond materialism. This has a direct influence on how humans ought to behave, which has strong political implications.

^universe

That flag is so passe. Get with the program, cunt.

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>What you guys need to realize is that classical morality existed long before any modern religion.
Citation needed, faggot.

The fact is that even today, in 2017, Africans and Muslims don't have any concept of 'morality'. Savages millenia ago certainly didn't either, unless they followed some sort of proto-Christian monotheist religion. (Like the ancient Chinese.)

not saying you need to abandon your religion or that it is not even needed, in fact I would say we are living in a time of prophetic fulfillment.

I'm saying god set things up so he is not needed, to prove or disprove god is to eliminate free will.

Go outside his law and you will suffer, fuck your way through 100 cocks and you will empty and have a life without hope or meaning. God need not interfere it is his natural law.

I was raised Protestant. I don't much give a shit about Christianity as a religion but it's been a binding cultural force among white people for generations. Because of this it has a place in getting evangelicals and normies on board with white nationalism and the continuation of western civilization.

This guy gets it.

if you are going to promote Christianity but not believe in it, it seems pretty hollow. but different strokes for different folks.

Christianity is the foundation of western society, the morals, beliefs, and truths therein, are the basis of all law, the constitution, and the bill of rights.

This Is why the Leftist top brass hate it so, they want to ban religion, collapse western civilization, install a dystopic, "Socialist Utopia" That is just a way for the elite to gain complete control over the population. All under the guise of love, unity, and equality, which I don't believe for a second. It's a power play pure and simple, To install a universal basic income to drug the masses into being the pets of the elite.

If people havent seen this before it will open your eye's. many elites truly believe in satan. you should understand you are in a real metaphysical war of good and evil right now on this earth.

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how did you infer I don't believe, I just don't believe in the church, I am a domination of one.

I believe in the heretical gospels, in ancient terms you might consider me a gnostic.

But the lords law is the lords law you need not believe to receive salvation you just need not be a selfish Dbag.

A church that says that I am the way the only infers all other before said relgion where not save, no matter how moral or good.

Go read the Gospels of Thomas and Marry and you may begin your journey of understanding.

They're trying to meme their mind-trap into renewed relevance, knowing it's losing members. Nothing else to it. Gotta compete with the other mind-traps.

> you need not believe to receive salvation you just need not be a selfish Dbag.

Please leave.

I also am non-denominational. Its just the path I have taken. but I never discourage anyone from going to church. I think thats counter-productive.

also this, thats a pretty heretical stance you have.

you need to watch thiselites have taken a stance and truly believe in it. If satan is real then God must be as well.

Did you believe in the trinity when you were baptised in the name of the trinity?

>Which version of Christianity is the most important?

Generally, the countries built around mainline protestant denominations are the most livable. Catholic countries seem to be more hit-or-miss.

Despotic rule is the norm in most societies. The only large scale societies to flourish absent despotic rule are ours.

Christianity restrained against theocracy, and the state restrained against despotism. Humility before God. THAT is the true "western tradition", not a bunch of greco-roman BS, marxism, capitalism, satanism, judaism, cosmopolitanism or dominionist folly. It allows us to form peaceful happy communities and live and prosper in fellowship with one another without needing the overweaning hand of tyrants to keep order.

Long live the Magna Carta and the reformation. Long live the humble faith of our families that moved mountains.

Why would anyone want to wreck such a beautiful way of life?

even the Gnostics gathered in a place to discuss the gospels. It is vital at the begin of the journey ones faith is great. Over time ones faith lessens as a natural fact and must be bolstered through study and understanding.

Faith is merely the begging of ones journey not its end.

The only mistake they make is the BS that came well after put into place by the council of Nicaea, the churches power had to be made absolute. The only mistake that Martin Luther made was to never challenge the editors of the bible not just the interpreters.

Belief in the bible is the most important thing. if you dont believe it then whats the point?

it is also important to realize that the churches were founded by men, not god. This is why Christianity is loosing so much support over the years, having been manipulated for centuries to push agendas, not unlike our own government.

remember too there are many gospils of cannon that are not included in the bible in fact a 100 or so I even have not been through them. Remember that the heretical gospels are such for if the church accepted them it could no longer exist. The bible is basically the 101 book its the one you start with and always come back to.

Gnostic bible says God is an imperfect creator. I just don't believe that. I believe we have been corrupted by satan and evil.

The only one catholic and apostolic church was founded by Jesus. If you are referring to "churches" outside of the one true church then I agree with you

Some would say that Satan and God are aspects of the same being, Remember that when Jobs faith was tested it was done so by Satan but only by the lords consent.

its explained. He is showing satan that people will choose good over evil even if their lives arent showered with gods grace. He's rubbing his face in it.

It's because they're retarded.

Yes, that's what I meant, but even the catholic church is susceptible to manipulation.

IMO our own pope has made some questionable statements, that are a strange interpretation of gospel. My main point is that following the word of god is the priority.

You know that I am the way, the truth, and the life. -John 14:6

Fuck off slide shill. Sage

And yet god allows us to suffer but why.

Raise up two trees one sheltered inside protected always loved. One outside living in the harsh winds and bugs all the suffering of the outside. And one day take the tree of the inside to the out, and upon the first breeze it shall fall and yet the tree that was always outside remains standing strong.

We must suffer it is necessary, it is only through pain and by facing and overcoming it can we gain strength. God lets us suffer because he loves us and wishes to make us strong and independent.

>Losing

when you remove the mandate, almost half or more people will CHOOSE to not have insurance,

The actual number of people that will still want insurance and lose ACCESS will be very low, NOT 20 MILLION

>Were you all raised Christian?

I was raised Lutheran and a bunch of the rest of my family are Catholic. I'm an atheist now because I find it silly that we can look at every other religion throughout history and confidently call them myths, but smugly assert that OUR magic superbeings are actually real.

because we are being tested for our worthiness of everlasting life. We took the path of knowledge of good and evil now we must prove our selves. you can not deny there are people out there who should not be allowed everlasting life. We want a paradise not more of the same thing we have here on earth.

>We took the path of knowledge of good and evil now we must prove our selves.


That choice was made for me.

> you can not deny there are people out there who should not be allowed everlasting life.

If God knows everything about you before he creates you, then he already knows who's worthy and who isn't.

we have free will. we are free to choose one side or the other. I believe good is better than evil.

I'm off to lunch now but I'll leave you with this. be careful trying to talk people out of their faith I dont know how this can help you or society in general. especially when you dont have a better alternative other than self enjoyment and degeneracy.