This is a Sup Forumsitically incorrect PMO-addiction thread. PMO stands for Porn, Masturbation, Orgasm. Post here if you need support to break free from your PMO addiction. Feel free to ask questions as well but please do look at the medical and science peer-reviewed papers that prove PMO-addiction is harmful. I've been PMO-free for a few years now and went through the rebooting process myself. If I can do it, then so can you. Remember, if you fell into PMO-addiction then you can certainly climb out of it. No excuses.
I've been trying to gradually stop using porn. It went well for a few weeks but now I'm back in the trap. I just need to remember that porn and dirty women are nothing more than bread and circuses.
Get help homie
Brody Peterson
If I masturbate once a day and don't look at porn when I'm not masturbating, am I addicted?
Jaxson Ross
no
John Ortiz
Bumping this shit. I know some of you roody-poos are addicted to porn tenfold over my own problem.
Bentley Butler
>jerk off occasionally (Less than once a day) to help sleep
Am I fucked Sup Forums?
Nolan Martin
>If I masturbate once a day and don't look at porn when I'm not masturbating, am I addicted? Yes, you have MO-addiction (masturbation-orgasm). Masturbation is never necessary. Your body has a natural mechanism to deal with this called nocturnal emissions.
Logan Mitchell
I already know it's bad, so what's the point of this thread? I'm trying to stop but no matter how much someone tells me it's dangerous it doesn't go away. It's like a heroin addiction
Eli Rodriguez
Wow. MORE shilling, done by kikes to try and distract users from talking about real issues
Caleb Powell
Do you have any good sources/studies/materials that dont come from the YourBrainonPorn movement specifically?
Reading this image makes the founders and propagators of it a tad dodgy however I dont want to reject the notion off hand because of that alon
Xavier Flores
>jerk off occasionally (Less than once a day) to help sleep No, I was exactly in your shoes. In fact, I was worse off than you. I used to stay up at night and masturbate until my penis bled. I would masturbate multiple times I day. My porn tastes changed from regular porn to other weird stuff. This was for many years, even during my formative years growing up.
I am now PMO-free for a few years now. Never looked at porn, I don't want to, don't have to. I have never masturbated. I know this is hard to believe, but it's true. I don't need to masturbate. My body naturally self-regulates through nocturnal release.
If you fell into the PMO-addiction hole, then you can definitely climb out of it. No excuses. It may be difficult to reboot, but you only need to do it once. When there's a will, there's a way.
> “The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.” – Chinese Proverb
Nathaniel Stewart
you have a sick relationship with yourself you faggot
save your seed boys. edge all the time masturbation and sex, IT IS YOUR LIFE FORCE. once you stop being a little bitch you won't cum in your sleep.
Cooper Turner
>I already know it's bad, so what's the point of this thread? I'm trying to stop but no matter how much someone tells me it's dangerous it doesn't go away. It's like a heroin addiction That's why we are here to help. Look at the YouTube video in the main post. If you fell into PMO-addiction, than you can definitely climb out of it. Nobody said it was easy. It wasn't easy to reboot. But you only need to do it once. The reboot takes AT LEAST 90-days. So you need to change your lifestyle in the meantime and think it like that. It's not like some nicotine patch you can put on and go about your day. It's a paradigm shift and that is why many people have a hard time grasping, but it's true. You'll be better off in the long haul by making this wise decision backed by medicine and science.
And remember these are scientifically-proven peer-reviewed medical journals. Now to address your image.
>Reading this image makes the founders and propagators of it a tad dodgy however I dont want to reject the notion off hand because of that alon That same image you post is always posted in these types of thread. First, it's by some anonymous "Ph.D" who probably has PMO addiction himself. Second, their claims are ambiguous and not substaintiated: where is the control group? What is the p-value? They spout out platitudes and feel-good to edge you further in your PMO addiction. This is what many addicts use to justify continuing their addictive behavior despite science and facts countering their beliefs in their face. Third, because it's by some anonymous Ph.D, there is no peer-review going on here. It's some slick anonymous post with feel good phrases. Be smart and open your eyes. The first step towards recovery is to admit you are addicted. Admit you are addicted to PMO. We are here to help.
Benjamin Flores
Theoretically what if someone made porn of himself doing it with his girlfriend or wife, then played it on several big screen TVs while getting it on with his gf/wife? Is that redpilled?
Nathan Martin
>you have a sick relationship with yourself you faggot It's a very common mechanism for addicts to lash out at anybody criticizing their addiction. That is because the addict forms a very close with their addiction, effectively melding into their identity. Attacking their addiction, saying it is wrong backed by medical science, is in turn interpreted as an attack on them.
We are here to help. We are not here to judge. I was exactly in your shoes and I know how painful it is. There is hope. If you fell into the PMO-addiction hole, then you can definitely climb out of it. No excuses. It won't be easy, but knowledge is power. Equip yourself and join a support community to help you in your journey. Once you break free, you will never look back.
One thing though, do you feel sexual rush randomly during the day? Also, how much do you have sex? I'm asking because excess porn/masturbation/orgasm leads to fucked up reward system and impotence, BUT ALSO, theoretically, excess abstinence (particularly not releasing your semen) will lead to testicular atrophy, since they're not being active.
Justin Morales
I'm struggling to overcome my addiction. I would stay up at night and go at it for an hour or two. I'd masturbate once a day, or keep it down to the weekends.
I definitely need the help OP, where do I start, and how can I take it from there?
bump
David Young
Becoming a monk is not the goal, but having more energy through not wasting your male vitality, so you can find a wife/GF and waste it with her.
Lucas Reyes
degenerate
Isaiah James
>One thing though, do you feel sexual rush randomly during the day? No, but during the reboot process I did.
>Also, how much do you have sex? During the time I didn't have a girlfriend, I never had sex. This was for about 1-2 years. Your body self-regulates through nocturnal emissions.
>I'm asking because excess porn/masturbation/orgasm leads to fucked up reward system and impotence, BUT ALSO, theoretically, excess abstinence (particularly not releasing your semen) will lead to testicular atrophy, since they're not being active. That is because you are PMO-addicted and when you are in the reboot phase, you will find it difficult. Once you restore your dopamine receptors (takes about 4-8 weeks) and you fully go through the reboot phase, you will return back to equilibrium. Do not despair by confusing what you feel during your withdrawal reboot phase as what's normal. You only need to reboot once, but you need to do it right. If you relapse, that's fine. You simply need to identify what triggered you, temporarily get rid of it, and try to go through the reboot phase again. Remember, it's at least 90-days so plan accordingly.
Kevin Sanders
>questioning behavioral addictions (eg. internet) >multiple researches on social media fucking up dopamine you can delete that image user, nothing of value will be lost
Kevin Allen
This topic is a joke. Completely overblown. There is such thing as addiction to porn, but very few regular porn users have it.
Grayson Long
Pray to God for strength, ask him to take it away and repent for self harming yourself and than do nofap for three months and I guarantee you will be cured. I did this and it truly helped.
Gavin Kelly
>I'm struggling to overcome my addiction. I would stay up at night and go at it for an hour or two. I'd masturbate once a day, or keep it down to the weekends. I was exactly like you. I would look forward finding that perfect porn angle. I would stay up at night and fap multiple times a day until my eyes hurt. I would masturbate in the shower as my routine. I was PMO addicted.
>I definitely need the help OP, where do I start, and how can I take it from there? The first step towards recovery is to admit you have an addiction. Then you need to equip yourself with knowledge. Go through the links in the main post. Watch the YouTube video. Next, take action, start making a goal. A plan. I first did 3 weeks of no PMO then did a controlled relapse. Basically, I "rewarded" myself with a PMO session once I hit the 3 week mark. Next, I think I went ahead with the 90-day goal. Unfortunately, I failed around the 100 day mark and relapsed very hard meaning I was in the PMO-addiction cycle of my old habit for about a month or two. Then I identified my trigger and tried again. I have been PMO-free for a few years now.
If you fell into the PMO-addiction hole, you can definitely climb out of it. Nobody said it was ever easy, so don't give up. We are here to help. Remember, knowledge is power. Start now.
> “The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.” – Chinese Proverb
Michael Campbell
I had an horrible breakup 2 years ago almost killed myself and the only thing that made things really better was constant masturbation, like 1 once a day every morning. Everytime I try to stop I revert back to the horrible state that I was in within less than 2 days. Help me.
Lincoln Stewart
>The first step towards recovery is to admit you are addicted. Admit you are addicted to PMO. We are here to help.
Im porn free due to medical issues, my interest is more in the movement as Ive seen real strange characters on both sides.
Do you have any good sources from the other side for me to compare?
Gavin Edwards
Kike faggot detected. If you don't know that porn is a control weapon than you arent really redpilled.
What if you masturbate a few times a week and have none of the aforementioned problems in the bedroom w real female partners?
I've found when I give up masturbating for more than a few days I am hard constantly throughout the day and find myself considering having sex with lower status females. I feel like regular release keeps me rational
Christopher Williams
go for a camping trip and don't masturbate. When you get back don't masturbate, instead get yourself a nice white gf and merry her. Problem solved.
Logan Johnson
There is no hard science behind any of this shit. In my personal life I have experienced that regular release gives me more awareness and control over my actions, not less!
Yes, if you are using porn to avoid real life responsibilities you are addicted and need to change your behavior. Outside of that what exactly is the problem?
Jonathan Mitchell
>Becoming a monk is not the goal, but having more energy through not wasting your male vitality, so you can find a wife/GF and waste it with her. Not to criticize you, but every single guy was effectively "a monk" back in the ancient days. If you read the ancient texts, it's very common mention of nocturnal emissions and what a man should do in cases of nocturnal emissions. Male nocturnal emissions were treated as commonly as women's menstration. For example, in the Bible: "If a man has an emission of semen, he shall bathe his whole body in water and be unclean until the evening." (Leviticus 15:16). There are many others cultures and religions that also talk about men's nocturnal emissions. For example, over at reuniting.info/ they cite in Buddhism that the man loses his energy when he engages in masturbation and they discourage that. Anyways, my point is masturbation is not normal and it is never necessary. Your body self-regulates through nocturnal emissions.
It is a paradigm shift because in today's world, virtually every men is addicted to PMO in some shape or form. Even the journalists that churn out these news reports overlook this problem because they too are PMO addicted and they think it's normal and not worth covering. It's sort of living in a matrix.
Jayden Mitchell
Yes, goy. Stay a virgin your whole life, it is virtuous!
Logan Russell
Were can i get one of those
Jason Brooks
How often do people get wet dream if they don't masturbate? I don't want to cum in dream because it's a mess to clean up, so can i just masturbate semi-regularly to stop the wetdreams?
Cooper Cook
>There is such thing as addiction to porn, but very few regular porn users have it. Porn addiction is not the same porn binging. What you said is a contradiction. If you need to look at porn, you are addicted to porn. Virtually every male has PMO addiction. If you masturbate, then at the very least you have MO addiction. I had MO addiction long before full blown PMO addiction.
Also, this topic is not a joke. There are hundreds of peer-reviewed academic studies in medical journals that prove PMO addiction is as harmful as drug addiction and has many negative effects
34 neurological studies (and upcoming studies) are consistent with 220+ Internet addiction "brain studies," 12 recent neuroscience-based reviews of the literature: yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users
All the links are there on the website. Please take a look and don't treat this as a light matter.
Austin Bennett
This.
Kevin Bennett
why does it have eyes?
Samuel Cox
It is self harm.
Hunter Gray
I no longer consume porn or masturbate.
I'm finally free.
Brody Wright
>real female partners
Having sex with multiple partners is an entirely different level of degeneracy than this thread is supposed to address.
Caleb Nguyen
What do you have to say to my earlier comment? What if you do not NEED to look at porn like you assumed but do for more enjoyment. I do without it frequently. What does the literature say about masturbating but not using porn?
Thomas Peterson
I mean throughout my lifetime bra
Brayden Rivera
>I had an horrible breakup 2 years ago almost killed myself and the only thing that made things really better was constant masturbation, like 1 once a day every morning. Everytime I try to stop I revert back to the horrible state that I was in within less than 2 days. Help me. People fall into various addictions when they go through a traumatic phase in their life. I hope I am not making light of your situation and I understand it may have been difficult with your sexual release pent up. However, I would argue -- again not to criticize you -- that your PMO addiction has made your situation worse and still have you fixated on your previous love. I know this sounds paradoxical, that artificially releasing yourself will somehow make the pain fade away, but it will only make it worse because anytime you have withdrawal it will make it bring back the flood of memories.
All is not lost though, you can certainly recover from this. Everybody has to go through their own trial of their reboot phase and it's not easy. It's definitely doable, so no excuses.
Ian Cooper
Not an argument
Owen Campbell
therefore it is bad.
Michael Wood
>Do you have any good sources from the other side for me to compare? Not sure what you're talking about. Could you re-phrase?
Also, many people confuse this PMO-addiction to NoFap. They are not the same. NoFap is not based on any science or facts, just pseudoscience and feelings. PMO-addiction is medically and scentifically proven. Like many addictions, there is a recovery plan that all men can go through.
Nathaniel Cooper
The problem I have with all of these infographics is that the assume a universal experience pattern.
I've been watching porn occasionally for 10 years (sometimes once a day, sometimes once a month), while I have dabbled in weird genres I always come back to vanilla
Camden Myers
Yes, I agree. Your argument IS bad
Robert Wood
by all means, keep harming yourself then.
Mason Powell
> Could you re-phrase? I was asking if you hand any the studies used by those who oppose the yourbrain on porn people so that I could compare them with the studies you already showed me.
>Also, many people confuse this PMO-addiction to NoFap. They are not the same. NoFap is not based on any science or facts, just pseudoscience and feelings.
What is Nofap then, what are their views/arguments? I thought they were just the community who gathered to practice the yourbrainonporn info.
Colton Wood
>What if you masturbate a few times a week and have none of the aforementioned problems in the bedroom w real female partners? There are a host of problems with PMO-addiction. At the very least, every PMO-addicted has to look at porn. They may not need to binge on PMO, but they need to PMO. A PMO-free person never needs to engaged in PMO behavior, their body naturally self-regulates through nocturnal emissions or they will have the release through their sexual partner.
>I've found when I give up masturbating for more than a few days I am hard constantly throughout the day and find myself considering having sex with lower status females. I feel like regular release keeps me rational PMO-addiction is not normal because you are essentially frying out your brain of dopamine receptors. Also the justification you gave is only an excuse to continue your PMO addiction because your fear is "I cannot control myself around women." If that is the case, then isolate yourself from women during your reboot phase. Again, this only applies during the reboot phase which you only need to go through just once if you do it successfully and you will not feel this sexually charged post-reboot. What you are experiencing is withdrawal symptoms. After the reboot phase, you will return to equilibrium. I know because I went through this exact thing myself and had this exact fear. So stop making excuses for you and others such as
Blake Harris
Is that really your brain on porn? Shit i need to stop.
Jaxon Foster
Edging is actually worse for you than just cumming.
dont do nofap or any of that BDSM bs. Masturbation is perfectly normal, doing it 9 times per day to hentai tentacle trap snuff porn isnt.
Jordan Roberts
a literaly penis in the brain pic on the right !!!
Joshua Cruz
No porn. No masturbation. No anime. (You know why. Stop lying to yourself)
Juan Robinson
So according to you I have PMO addiction but 0 symptoms. What is that supposed to mean?
Gabriel Mitchell
human beings work on incentives
offer something better or you are banging your head against a brick wall
Owen Lewis
>There is no hard science behind any of this shit. Yes there is, I link this in many of my posts
Brain Studies on Porn Users. The results of these 34 neurological studies (and upcoming studies) are consistent with 220+ Internet addiction "brain studies", many of which also include internet porn use. All support the premise that internet porn use can cause addiction-related brain changes, as do 12 recent neuroscience-based reviews of the literature: yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users
> In my personal life I have experienced that regular release gives me more awareness and control over my actions, not less!
Again, we cannot rely on self-diagnosis. You are clinically addicted to PMO, look at the picture and that is what your brain would look like in a brain scan. There is also a chance you may have slight clinical depression along with a host of other issues. You were never tested for these so we don't know, and neither do you. Just because you think you're okay doesn't mean that is the case. You never went through the reboot process so how would you know.
Also, if you think you are fine now. Then think how much better off you will be if you were PMO-free.
Jayden Flores
Thinking with your dick = thinking about dick = inagining dick = shaping your brain like dick.
NO. ANIME.
William Martinez
Explain how it is self harm if there no negative effects
Thomas Martinez
>Stay a virgin your whole life, it is virtuous! Ad hominem attack. In fact, PMO-addiction is probably the leading cause of many men who are single and virgin. I had a hard time getting a girlfriend when I was PMO-addicted. I don't think it was coincidence that I got a girlfriend soon after I was PMO-free.
Isaiah Cooper
ok. so?
Levi Adams
You're gay. 100% you're a queer faggot.
Stop playing with your dick.
Dylan Reyes
I don't believe you.
Ayden Gray
as with almost everything on the left, it is some level of perceived harm
thats all it ever is
_perceived-harm_
Austin Long
A mans semen is important for his health, it contains vital chemicals that without a man becomes depleted in those areas. Look it up. Im not going to spoon feed you. read the fucking thread.
Matthew Bailey
>How often do people get wet dream if they don't masturbate? It depends on the person and their current situation. If you have a sexual partner, then you won't get many nocturnal emissions of course.
>I don't want to cum in dream because it's a mess to clean up, so can i just masturbate semi-regularly to stop the wetdreams? Funny you mention because it's a silent epidemic that men worldwide never discuss how much of a pain it is to deal with nocturnal emissions. Perhaps you realize this. Women complain all the time about their menstrual cycle, but virtually no men even knows what nocturnal emissions are and think it is a strange concept. It is truly a paradigm shift to be PMO-free and lead a normal life as mankind did for eons.
In fact, online pornography is a very new concept in mankind history. The internet was open to the public in the 1990s. This means online pornography is a main factor only in the past 25 years. Think about this how much of a novel concept this is and how many men are waking up.
Brody Thompson
So you're gay and proud.
Well you're also a sex criminal. That's the destiny of gay men
Michael Murphy
>There are a host of problems with PMO-addiction. At the very least, every PMO-addicted has to look at porn. They may not need to binge on PMO, but they need to PMO.
As I stated before I don't need to look at porn. I've gone without it for 4 months before. I definitely don't have to use it every time does this not apply to me?
Jaxon Torres
What's your take on blue-balls? Sometimes the pain is so excruciating, I interpret it as a signal from my brain saying telling me not to get cancer and release fluid.
Samuel Brooks
>What if you do not NEED to look at porn like you assumed but do for more enjoyment. You are not doing it for enjoyment, you are deluding yourself. If you need to do it, then you are addicted.
>I do without it frequently. Porn addiction is not the same as porn binging. You can still be PMO addicted without binging on porn.
>does not masturbating lead a eunuch, such as this one, to add quotes at the bottom of posts like he is sending an email in 2003?
You need to start up again
Isaiah Adams
are you ok?
Christian Collins
im pissed at god for making sex desu
some people like me will never have a wife so what good does it do except torment my life
sexnorms are the worst
wish this world didnt have sex
Benjamin Phillips
According to Jew research psychologists
>Studies linking porn use or porn/sex addiction to sexual dysfunctions, lower arousal, and lower sexual & relationship satisfaction
These sound like terrible problems. I don't have any of them
Cameron Allen
>The problem I have with all of these infographics is that the assume a universal experience pattern. Here are many scientific medical studies that prove PMO addiction. The whole point of an academic medical study is they compare a control group vs. the affected group and prove various hypothesis of how PMO-addiction is harmful in various ways:
>I've been watching porn occasionally for 10 years (sometimes once a day, sometimes once a month), while I have dabbled in weird genres I always come back to vanilla The first step towards recovery is to admit you have an addiction. Then the healing process can begin.
Ian Rivera
if you still defend porn use you are blue pilled as fuck and a kike puppet
The body is made for frequent ejactulation. You still lose these during regular sex, does that make that bad too?
Plus there are tons of studies correlating prostate cancer to infrequent ejactualtion
Carson Gutierrez
>I was asking if you hand any the studies used by those who oppose the yourbrain on porn people so that I could compare them with the studies you already showed me. There is one on PsychologyToday but that has been debunked as there were many problems with the study. You can find that study through Google search. Unfortunately, it's ranked fairly high because PMO-addicts are always fishing for an excuse to continue their addiction.
>What is Nofap then, what are their views/arguments? You'll have to ask them yourself
Scientists are to afraid to fight this out of fears of ousting themselves as avid masturbators
Jacob Smith
Sex with a female releases Oxytocin which is pro social chemical.
Porn releases an absolute tidal wave of dopamine similar to cocaine and other dopamenergic drugs
Excessive build up of semen is released naturally through wet dreams when necessary
the idea that you have to fap or get prostate cancer is fucking ridiculous
Jack Reed
>Also, if you think you are fine now. Then think how much better off you will be if you were PMO-free.
That's possible
Andrew Fisher
>Masturbation is perfectly normal Masturbation is not normal. If you need to masturbation, then you are by definition MO-addicted. I was MO-addicted long before PMO-addiction. You don't need to masturbate. Your body has a natural mechanism by nocturnal emissions. Please educate yourself and don't spread misconceptions.
Brayden Lopez
wtf is this shit?
Brody Powell
>So according to you I have PMO addiction but 0 symptoms. 1) If you need to PMO, then you have PMO-addiction. That is one symptom. 2) You do have other symptoms but you haven't been clinically diagnosed with them yet. If you quit PMO addiction then the changes will become apparent.
Noah Ortiz
Listen to the golden one. Stop watching porn. Do you think it pleases the God and your ancestors for you to pleasure yourself while watching such degeneracy?
Dylan Phillips
I haven't fapped to porn in two years and I'll be a wizard soon. I'm saving my seed for that special somebody. Or that's what I keep telling myself. :(
Josiah Gonzalez
That's what I'm saying. Seems like every organ in the body needs to regularly exercise its function
Bentley Kelly
reminder that Israel used porn as a weapon against Palestine
Nathan Turner
>human beings work on incentives >offer something better or you are banging your head against a brick wall There are scientific facts and evidence to back this up. Also there are support groups to help you with your journey. We are not here to judge you because all went through the same thing. We are here to help.
