About homogeneous Japan

is Japan's declining population a threat to their economy? will they need to take refugees in at some point?

No. 理由はautomationです。

If you take in people who share none of your values or genes and make it into something else, is that really saving it?

That's like saving your family home by inviting everyone into it.

The are literally smaller than California yet have a third of the population of the United States, I think everybody blows this shit out of proportion.

They are overpopulated at the moment. If they have a suddn shortage of salarymen they can use their own supply of rural and suburban talent.

Economy can be fixed. Demographics can't.

>refugees
It would be more productive to just build bots to do the work.

I know, but still their population is declining & getting older, which could be a threat to their economy

They need to be more diverse

Why should your economy grow when your population is shrinking?

>will they need to take refugees in at some point?

No. If it becomes a major problem they can always increase immigration from S. Korea, China, and other Asian countries. There's no shortage of Asians that's for sure.

>their economy might encounter problems that we can't predict as the 5th stage of demographic transition is an unknown
>I know, let's just fuck everything up culturally for the sake of money
Fucking idiot. Why would money matter more than country and culture? You probably consider yourself European instead of French so this is probably lost on you.

No and no. Leave Japan the fuck alone. You cucked yourself, stop trying to drag everyone else down with you.

Seriously? Fuck you. They were experiencing an overpopulation crisis. Now that things have adjusted themselves to the point that they finally have breathing room again, you think they "need" a bunch of useless migrants who won't speak Japanese and will breed like rabbits?

europe yes

Taking in refugees is not the solution to anything.

A bad work environment has led to men either being successes or total failures in the eyes of society, so the bottom 50% of men have checked out of society rather than filling in roles.

>will they need to take in a threat to their economy to remedy a threat to their economy

Fuckhead. Funny how 20-30 years ago people were told to stop breeding because overpopulation was a problem, but now low population is an existential threat and somehow 3rd world savages can save us.

Face it, it's a scheme to undermine the unity of particularly high IQ nations and replace them with inbred retards. They're easier to rule over.

Geez it was a question not a suggestion calm your dicks down

Why are we at a point in time where everything boils down to fractional percentages?

Who cares if your economy "shrinks" by 0.1%? If your citizens are healthy, secure, and safe - does it really matter?

Sure, you could increase your growth by +0.1% instead, by inviting a shit load of useless fucks, but at the expense of your culture, heritage, security, etc... why?

We live in a unsustainable world of infinite growth - this shit show's wheels will fall off soon enough

Automation is the answer for them.

Fewer people = economy doesnt need to be as big

Why the fuck dont people realise this?
(((They))) are the only ones who don't benefit from constant growth

To be fair, overpopulation isn't as bad as having a country that's majority old people.

>a threat to their economy to remedy a threat to their economy
refugees bring more money to the state on the long term, (at least in france) that's why Macron love their dicks

Who gives a damn their population is declining really ? They have housing problems, it's actually good for them to have a lowering population.

Also...

Surely a "weaker" economy doesn't matter, as you need to provide for less people?

This shit is a huge scam.

Japan was overpopulated - in fact, it still is given the size of the island! Yet, again INFINITE GROWTH meme XD strikes again

Well yeah, but what happens when most of the people that are left are really old?

I don't give a shit about my country, my people fought for the right to kill their culture and they're happy doing it, but keep these fucking mud creatures out of Nippon

> Surely a "weaker" economy doesn't matter, as you need to provide for less people?

This guy gets it.

Populations have always risen and fallen. This is not an excuse to introduce millions of foreigners which will forever destroy the country

The French, like most of Europe, are willing to let their past and future burn for 5 more minutes of fiat currency from a central bank, movies, video games, porn, anonymous degenerate sex, and cheap tasty garbage food.

They get the domination they deserve.

fuck you
no refugees
a few whites here and there are okay
the new generation of men are slowly getting back strength like the men of the showa generation
fuck your refugees jewish globalist

Nope and their banks aren't controlled by jews

It was a leading question. "Herp derp Japan needs a bunch of third-world flesh heaps who won't learn Japanese, will need gibs to survive, and will blow up Tokyo when they've have enough time to breed their numbers up."

No because with less people there will be more resources per person thus increased wealth for the collective. Rich people spend more money than poor people.

I came to this thread to see more Japanese women and honestly I'm disappointed

>get paid to be there
>generate nothing but rape and shitting in the street

>"they bring more money"

First off that's all incorrect, 2nd if all you care about is money, you deserve the busted boypussi you're gonna get.

the fewer people the smaller the gdp and debt becomes unsustainable. and if you have a lot of elders its harder to give pentions. but no immigration isnt the sollution

That doesn't matter if everyone is old. The old people would need to be maintained.

No. Economic growth used to be tied to population for pretty much the entirety of human history but that has changed very recently due to automation. Machines can replace more and more people every year which will turn people from producers into consumers, probably living on state handouts to boot. Every developed country should be letting their population decline to a more stable level but instead we're getting enriched to hell and back since people still follow outdated ideas about economic growth.

>believing that shit

The problem isn't for the Japanese people or state, but rather the (((people))) who make money from economic growth

Notice how leftists are population alarmist when there is a possibility of pushing browns

Also I am starting to miss old CAPTCHA this fucking picture shit is way to glitchy

>year 2020
>we invited 1 million Africans to bolster our economy by 0.5%+
>the merchant bankers were happy!
>50 years later
>g-guys all these Africans are too old to work now, we need more
>shit, we need another 5 million to replace them I guess
>phew a 0.1% economic growth
>look out window
>oh, fuck our country is decimated, as is our culture. Oh well, some greedy fuck banker got loaded as fuck :^)

Bitch I was a weeaboo 5 years ago I don't want Japan to multicultural

I will single handedly solve their problem

Ok but if everyone is old, welfare costs are going to be expensive & Japan will lack workers, no?

Ever heard of a pension?

It's not like as soon as you get old you suck money out of the system - it's saved up in a bank somewhere

>uneven burden
Lebanon= arab country
Jordan=arab country
Turkey=muslim country
where are Tunisia, Morocco, Saudi-Arabia, Oman, Yemen and many other muslim countries? Why should a country take refugees in, who don't even share common culture and are nothing but cancer?

Yes and communists will defend immigration even though it does fuck all to push their ideology. Unless they really think browns can successfully achieve communist utopia when they fail time and time again.

Not like Japanese people ever stop working though.

They provide enough for their own sustainance.

Only people pushing the growth and immigration bullshit are bankers and the like
They need larger populations as they thrive on peoples debt

The pensions thing is a joke, hey we need to pay for aging population so lets import people who wont work, collect welfare and also grow old demanding a pension, that will fix everything

No where in the world are there enough in pension systems to maintain the amount of old people that Japan has. Japan's welfare system is also notoriously weak compared to Europe, and even if they had a robust pension system, you would need a good amount of working age people to prop it up.

>single handedly

Why break the habit of a lifetime

>WORLD IS OVERPOPULATED, WE NEED TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, THERE ARE TOO MUCH PEOPLE ON THE PLANET

>EUROPEAN AND JAPAN POPULATION IS IN DECLINE, WE NEED TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, BRING IN REFUGEES

fucking kikes, make up your fucking dummy mind.

It's a threat to their economy because how the world is built. You need to have a growing population to sustain economic growth, that's just how it is.

The thing is, Japan has a housing crisis, housing bubble, overpopulation problem, etc etc.
What Japan needs is a correction, but that won't happen because (((they))) need a annual growth to keep the world economy going. Which is why this massive immigration bullshit is happening in Europe, because the same shit is happening there.

Leftists and all that scrub loves to use post-WW2 as an example that immigration is great for countries. Because every immigrant will arrive and get a job. Hence contributing to the economy, work industry and GDP.
BUT those were european brothers. That doesn't apply to sandniggers, because a large majority of them don't work, they lie about their education, a majority of them will be on welfare for most of their lives because they doesn't give a shit about living standards, etc etc.

So, TL;DR this "immigration will bolster the economy" is kind of true, but at the same time. Do you want to fill your country with muslims that fights for different cultures and siphons your welfare in exchange of maybe a 0.3% economic boost?
Fuck no.

Pensions are generally underfunded and often based on historical rates of return, which may or may not be realistic going forward. Likely the latter. It's a ponzi of sorts, requiring a constant influx of new people at the bottom. This is the main reason western countries hunger for new blood/immigrants. I thought this was common knowledge here.

How could refugees possibly help the economy when you give them welfare?

Be Japan...

Be stupid enough to put a nuclear plant on a fault line. Earthquake happens, tsunami

2 cores go into meltdown

No way to stop it, keep everything hush hush, keep pumping sea water on the problem with no solution.

Be fucking assholes and dump untreated water back into the sea

Kill the ocean around you and all the way to the west coast of North America, poison the ocean.

When the melted cores hit the water table = detonation and radiation goes airborn, all over the world

Fuck you very much Japan

>will they need to take refugees in at some point?
Why would they ever want to wreck their entire fucking country just for a few kike-tokens?

Wasn't the overpopulation crisis all the rage a minute ago?
Why is it always refugees and not taiwanese migrants?
How many japanese does japan actually need?

This in so many ways.

The Japanese old people aren't as bad off medically as those in the West. Not as much fast food and forced walking everywhere will do that.

They don't need to take in refugees.
They need a complete overhaul of their socioeconomic system based on ideas spread by Jews, so that people are not financially precluded from having kids.
This is what we all need to do.
It astounds me how people can't fucking put 2 and 2 together and realise that both (((capitalism))) and (((communism))) can be sold as "purely economic models, nothing to do with race", and yet they are ENTIRELY dysgenic.

This. Its like inifinite growth economics. Who says you cant have a low pop and be highly developed and strong? I mean 100 whites could subdue thousands of Africans in the past and more so now probably. Numbers are only an issue when it comes to democracy. Democracy is why numbers are important and nothing else.

Medically yeah, but I'm talking stuff like pensions, unemployment, and that stuff. I know that healthcare in Japan works kind of like it does in Switzerland, where you have to pay it up until a certain amount and the government covers the rest.

I hope not

No, they just need more robots.

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heh heh heh

>tiny fucking island nation
>126 million people

Japan has ONE THIRD of ENTIRE AMERICAN POPULATION.

1/3 of fucking US. And they're a fucking TINY ISLAND NATION. Look at size of POLAND and then understand that Poland has 38 million people.

This. Ever since they became a US proxy state they've been sliding towards the abyss, just like the USA and every other US/Jew controlled puppet state.

The overpopulation myth is just a lie to further take things from you

>world is overpopulated goy
>give up your children and modern luxuries
>be a dumb peasant
>shut up and work.
>accept less out of life.

>is Japan's declining population a threat to their economy? will they need to take refugees in at some point?

We are an interesting point where this question has not really been answered before. People pretend that population should go down because of stress to the planet but they piss themselves the moment a population shrinks.

I applaud Japan for trying to figure out a way to deal with declining pop which will likely mean a shrinking economy and difficulty with benefits/retirement. Though automation should help with these things. Seems to me more robots means less jobs which means you can have a way through that involves less workers.

I also count the US lucky that when our politicians piss themselves and start taking in immigrants to avoid dealing with this shit we have Latinos to take in rather then Africans/Arabs that Europe gets.

What does it matter anyway? their standard of living isn't going to change because their population is in decline.
I don't get it. It will even out at some point.
They live on the fucking island for fuck sake
What do you want japan to turn into the philippines or something?
Overpopulated, polluted, and shitty.

>overpopulated archipelago
>population decline is a bad thing

lol

>Demographics can't
>Germany
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

Japan population bombs and they all die
Robot Bears take over

Its overpopulated in the sense that we are supporting a bunch of natives with no prospects in foreign lands with tech and science from the 1st world. We cant maintain propping them up at current levels but if we just pulled out it world work itself out. I agree though overpopulation as its understood and spread is a meme.

The overpopulation is what creates the nutjobs comitting terrorist acts.

>sustain economic growth

The economic growth meme needs to die. The size of the economy can inflate AND DEFLATE with the size of your population. The dogma that economies MUST grow is just an inflation fetish.

Well they tie it to their socialist bullshit. (((THEY))) need constant growth in pop for a tax base to pay for the bullshit gibs they give to buy votes.

The elephant in the room here is the extreme longevity we are being forced by modern standards. If people don't live as long with so many artificial means there would be less of a burden for young people and the economy since old people suck away all the resources.

70 should be the maximum.

Lack of reproduction seems to me to be a biproduct of a decently advanced civilization

I would say the Japanese and most of Europe/white America are the only cultures that are actually worth calling modern
White birth rates are declining as well, you just don't notice because there are more of us and some of us have allowed interracial breeding

Once people forget about religion and realize how seemingly meaningless our existence is they lose the will to reproduce or really do anything to contribute to humanity

Holy shit it's like the Dark Tower
What was the name of that cyborg bear with a brain full of worms?

>People don't realise that at this rate in 20-30 years there won't be enough japanese workers to run companies.

PAAAAAYYYY

>muh economy
there are things more important than money, schlomo

Why does a country's population have to continue to grow? It can't grow forever. It has to slow down and stop some time. Just let it do it's own thing naturally. And even with mass immigration the country will still eventually have to stop growing.

This. They're actually overpopulated at the moment.

Because japanese girls like in OP`s pic is one in a million they are mostly ugly

And why the fuck do I have a british flag? This flag bullshit has to stop

The farce that is infinite growth is one that will eventually come to bite people in the ass.

Japan's economy might shrink, but the market will adjust.

Technological advancement and automation.

I'd happily improve their decline in population with her

Imagine you're playing sim city.
>more and more of your people are refusing to have kids
>they are living longer

What would you do?

What our leaders decided to do was to destablize areas with fake wars to cause mass refugee issues
>take in these people as breeders
>they are retards so as soon as you give them a place to stay and money they pop kids out like rabbits

:low population issue fixed

>give them money, encourage their kids to goto school and college. You see a ton of money going into this right now.

That's the plan, if it fails all these nations will be about a billion times worse off. It's a gamble.

The problem isn't a shrinking population, it's an older population. If they don't do anything they will have an overcrowded country full of old people that nobody can support.

I came here to post this.

Why would anyone think it's a good gamble?

You fuckers need to make up your mind, first of all. Are there too many people or aren't there? Is over-population a problem or not?

And no. Japan doesn't have population problem. They're building the most advanced robots on the planet. Some in the US are concerned about robots replacing workers. How hard is it to put these two things together. Japans forward with automation and decline of population go hand in hand and only look to improve the quality of life and rise personal income - reducing national debt.

Jesus Christ I'd leave my wife for her, the temptation is real.