Increasing minimum wage actually decreases unemployment

>increasing minimum wage actually decreases unemployment
>giving people free wages actually makes them want to work EVEN MORE

Wow... Capitalism btfo yet again...

The vast majority of capitalist premises are nothing more than fictitious propaganda not based in reality whatsoever and which are only parroted to keep the system running.

"Gimmiedats" is -NOT- a minimum wage.

Also, niggers don't look for work.

Well your right wing talking points sure have btfo the actual data and statistics!

It's almost like people perform better when the threat of starvation isn't there

I need a Finnbro to redpill me on UBI.

Who would've thought?

UBI having positive results was debunked 60 years ago when it was first brought up.
The finnish study is biased if you look at the group of people the choose from.
It only leads to huge inflation from month to month and total collapse after 15 months since its introduction, fuck off with those shitty threads.

Whenever someone uses the word "debunked" you can rest assured the thing they're shitting on hasn't been.

This article is about 1 guy, who said he liked the program, but after 6 months still has no job, but he likes it because he is a self described "artist" which is a meaningless title.

Literal cancer, anyone who wants UBI should be dragged out to a cliff and subsequently shoved over the side.

Commies deserve nothing but death.

>This is a totally unbiased opinion
>t. Mad Max

This only works in homogeneous cultures, fuck off with these shit bait threads.

sage

The current system really dosent motivate you to actually seek for a job, if you end up in some shitty part time job you will spend next 2 months filling gubment forms to get back your shitty unemployment benefits.

This new system however, it dosent "punish" you for doing part time jobs for like week or two a month.

I'm still pissed about the fact i didint get chosen for this ubi.

> People work better when they don't have to

Commies get the hell out!

Homogenous, unified, society with almost no debt...

Hmmmmmmmmm

>statistics
>One guy who is still unemployed saying he doesn't feel as stressed

Really activatin them almonds there schlomo.

UBI is perfectly compatible with a fascist regime.

In fact, it's probably the only kind of regime where it works long-term.

It's complicated

Was this offered to people with jobs as well? What about young people just out of school? People living with their parents? I don't think this accounts for incentives to stop working/never join the workforce anyways.

Furthermore, were the participants aware the study was finite in nature? People might behave more responsibly if they think that their income, however earned, was finite, and they would eventually have to find a job. In that case, the fact that the UBI stays when the unemployment doesn't may have an economic boost.

It still isn't fair that they measure only factors that can improve.

You dont even need to have taken econ 101 to understand why it doesnt work.
List of counter arguments wouldnt fit in ten full-fledged posts, giving people money for "free" works until you run out of tax payers money.

>universal basic income
>its actually just welfare and not a universal basic income system

whooops

this Really fucks me of senpai, its called the fucking dole, in sweden we have almost 10 different versions of the gibs, im sure most if not all countries has this in some way or the other

its still collectivist trash that will fail long term.

Giving UBI to a few random people is not a legitimate test of UBI. It's just gibs.

The question is what happens to society, prices, work, etc. when EVERYONE gets UBI. What happens when politicians start promising a UBI raise in exchange for votes. What happens when SJWs start saying blacks should get more UBI. Etc.

Finland fuck wit. Try giving niggers more free money and watch drug use and crime rates sky rocket

>get money for existing
>shit genes like to produce 12 children
??
Destroyed society eventually

>finnish
Ok. Now I believe that universal income might work in small, homogeneous society that highly values labour. Which means it will work for about 1% of world.

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>watch drug use and crime rates sky rocket

Umm I'll have you know that once I begin receiving a Universal Basic Income and never have to work again, I assuredly will NOT dive headfirst into an opiate addiction. I will pursue noble endeavors, such as painting, writing poetry and studying math.

I do not need labor to be fulfilled! You might say I'm a bit of an ubermensch.

still waiting for your response to this:

it really doesnt make a difference if you have to report your job situation every 4 months or every 2 years

make it that you dont have to report it at all

You (probably) won't.
Jamal the nigger, Paco the taco and Cletus the lardtub will.

500€/month.. that doesnt even cover rent in Finland. I make 2800€/month and consider myself poor.

lol so it's literally just some drug money

Well that's sort of the whole purpose of this UBI thing; to unify the countless different forms of gibs to a single lump sum of money.

In reality what will probably happen is that instead of 10 different gibs we will have 11 different gibs, with another new bureau for publicly paid UBI application handlers.

Not really. You probably merge 'natsoc' with 'fascist'.
In purely fascist regime UBI would have same effect of creating dependent underclass.
However in natsoc UBI makes perfect sense.

>Well that's sort of the whole purpose of this UBI thing

Wrong, the whole purpose of that shit is to encourage people seek for a job, you dont loose that 560€/month gibs me dat, you get that shit on top of your salary.

It was just given for few people.

>giving people free wages
where does this money come from?
is is stolen from productive citizens?
or is it printed and distributed?

haha true, thats how you create jobs in socialism...

ya, okay

so then why all the welfare?

far as i know, those mother fuckers dont' want to work!

so, give them more, and they will suddenly want to work?

give your head a shake

With the current system, lets imagine you work for a week and get paid 500€, that affects your gubment benefits so it's basically easier to sit on your ass and fiddle with your balls 24/7 and get paid the same amount.

This new shit should just encourage people to actually do shitty, part time jobs without dealing all the trouble what you have to do now.

Should have probably said "one purpose" instead of "whole purpose." You know it's been heavily sold to us as a means to simplify the gibs system.

Venezuela, faggot.

>means to simplify the gibs system.

Yeah, but it actually dont even do that, you still need to apply two other gib me dats, it's just a fancy name for unemployment benefits.

I'm just fucking piss'd i didint get chosen, i would work like a moron and still collect gubment money.

How do I subscribe? do I need to come by boat for that?

Like I said, it will probably be just one new form of gibs on top of others if it ever gets off. I'm one of those who will be paying the whole fun so I'm fucked either way.

What if UBI were a billion dollars, would everyone be working 28 hours a day?

Yeah, it literally says he isn't working. This is fake news.

What happened with the people who burned through their neetbux check the first week? Did they starve in gutter? Or did the designers of the study carefully screen the population to winnow out the problem cases that make welfare so expensive?

Scheme to create a dependent welfare class whose votes are perpetually bought and paid for.

Reminder that some city in Canada also had really positive results from UBI experiment. Was Daphny the name? Whatever, facts are true regardless whether you wish they were or not.

>the one guy who actually read the article

A better idea than UBI would be to lower the work week hours. In the USA, full time is considered 40hours/week. As human labor becomes less important, simply lower the hours/week. Problem solved. Better than ubi which just inflates price of necessary goods to a level in equilibrium with the new unversal income.

Unless that city had a self-contained economy, that experiment is useless.