This country has become a third-world moorish paradise with little to no job oportunities and absolutelly no help from...

This country has become a third-world moorish paradise with little to no job oportunities and absolutelly no help from the estate due to the humongous amount of inmigrants sucking from the social security.

Spanishbros, what to do in our country nowadays? Is there hope for the youth here or should we all move to a more prolific land yet to be invaded by the hordes of mudslimes?

The future, as I see it, is pretty grim. Far from what we used to be as a country, as people.
I see no hope for us, at least not while we remain inside the EU.

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Dont worry spanishbro, I will reply. Your country is a shithole but only in Barcelona and Madrid. You can escape to the countryside far from the cities and you will be fine. Unlike us poortuguese, you actually have a large country.

Im from Guadalajara, born and raised. It's a countryside city near to Madrid and it's not any better..

The thing with Spain right now is the amount of mass inmigration to said countryside provinces, making most low skill temporal jobs unaccessible to natives due to the fact that people can hire 2 shitskins for the price of 1 spaniard.

Go work in Benidorm. Plenty of service jobs there.

Few years back I travelled through cantabria, asturias & galicia, amazing places, it's a well preserved part of europe

If spaniards are demanding such high payment for such low sklil jobs no wonder why you have so many unemployed citizens and your country is sinking.

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>Is there hope
NO, Spain will be Colombia 2.0 or a province of Romania in less than 30 years,

Just stay in your land and fight. All White Slavic nations dislike Meds anyway, so hiding there is not an option

Na mate you got it all wrong. Being poor in jewrop right now is a blessing. Nobody wants to go there.
Besides, it's mainly in communist Barcelona, so who cares

We also dislike you Vladimir, stop playing in EU west servers you fucker

I suppose the silver lining is the fat that you can pull massive benefits from your socialist state while not being a wageslave and maximizing your human potential with reading and lifting.

>more than 700€ for a low skill job
>high
>when the average rent for a house is 450 in a shitty countryside city like mine

Wew lad, you are right we are complaining too much.

That's exactly what I'm trying right now but it comes to a time where I need money to fuck off to my own flat.

The average age for spaniards to fuck off their parent's house is 28'9 while in denmark and finland ranges from 19 to 21.

Thanks based Merkel for destroying the Mediterranian in its entirety.

Iberia, Italy and Balkans are literal cancer of Europe

>nigger blames his country problem on an old cunt even-though Spain been a shithole even during Franco times

Indeed, the north is the only place where you can flourish as both a person and a working man.

If you take into acount the beauty of the landscape and the simple, humble and amazing people of the countryside it's close to perfect to live and chill there till you become old.

>a shithole even during Franco times

That's simply untrue. The change from pesetas to euros fucked us sideways and since then every work policy imposed by the goverment has made the medium class nonexistent leaving only low and high class citizens.

People who come from a large lineage of spaniards are now in par economically and socially with inmigrants who came here 10 years ago. If that's ok for you I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you Vladimiro.

True that. Enjoy all of our immigrants going north Hans.

Euro fucked over native Germans and Dutch the most in the union. If you are looking those to really blame check out Luxembourg/Swiss citizens who run the banks and multinational corporations

This is part of Med culture desu, you don't leave your parents' house until you're married. What's the point of getting a flat or house before you can actually afford it?

Take into account that most of our politics evade taxes and send them to swiss banks.

Sorry but the north is shit. The main thing they're known for is for leaving their land. Argentinos even call us all gallegos.

Moreover, 40 years ago there was little to no inmigration hence most low skill jobs belonged to natives.

Nowadays you can't just "work on a store" or "open a grocery store" because the market is so dominated by chinese and mudslimes that you can't compete.

Literal chinese mafias place them there and rotate their workers accordingly, occupying most cheap houses in the process.

I will never ever believe that mass inmigration offers any benefit to the country or the state they migrate.

It's a cancer and it's killing our country.

Slavs are as bad as asians only a*banians are worse than them

>This country has become a third-world moorish paradise with little to no job oportunities and absolutelly no help from the estate due to the humongous amount of inmigrants sucking from the social security.

Well, Spain has been a third world country for decades now. Nothing new.
The rapefugees aren't the root problem.
Spanish are lazy retards, you can't deny.
Got euros and low interest rates, built tons of unsellable buildings on the coastline hoping for German retards to buy them twenty the price they worth, is just an example.

>Spanishbros, what to do in our country nowadays? Is there hope for the youth here or should we all move to a more prolific land yet to be invaded by the hordes of mudslimes?

You're not the only country where young people claim the right to emigrate to a more "prolific" country.
To summarize: no help from state because of sucking immigrants, claim the right to emigrate...
How to say... A country is not prolific because of it, as itself, but thanks to the people who live in.
Send tons of spantards in Germany, wait 25 years, Germany becomes a third world shithole (even it it's already on tracks btw).

>The future, as I see it, is pretty grim. Far from what we used to be as a country, as people.
In your dreams. Spain has long time been a shithole.
Your future is indeed very dark.
Maybe you don't deserve more.

>I see no hope for us, at least not while we remain inside the EU.
EU has nothing to deal with it.
EU should have nerver accepted Spain.

No offense, but tired about Spanish, Romamnians, Turkish... to claim the right to join more "prolific" countries after they simply fucked up theirs.
Take your responsibility, for once.

Yep, northern Spain is pretty much crap now. The proud spanish people trying to convert themselves into germans, with the predictable result.

Arriba con Andalucia. If you omit s at the end on the words you are real Spanish. No b in cacado and Bilbado. Bonus points for spelling España as Epp(h)aña.

EU must be destroyed,that's it.

Even with all our faults there is much room for improvement. And getting rid of theu EU is a big step in that direction.

Ironic, since Spain and in particular the Canary Islands is flooded with Russian tourist.

Work out, dress well, get a good job, become rich and popular, and encourage your right wing friends to do the same. The normies will follow you if you become Chad.

Just disregard these jewish words. Of all the nations meds are liked the most by russians.

>People who come from a large lineage of spaniards are now in par economically and socially with inmigrants who came here 10 years ago.
All those immigrants buying houses with 700e

I know that I live in a country full of absolute retards but the Spanish people are more hardworking that they seem.

The thing is that people become lazy when trapped in unsubstantial jobs that don't really pay the effort you put in them, hence losing more and more interest in performing them correctly.

All the buildings and urbanistic plans from the early 00's come from one of the most despised politcal figures of the Spanish History called José María Áznar, namely famous aswell for making us go to war, a war we had nothing but loses in it.

We have a lot of debt and the capital of the country, as you stated, is mostly buildings and properties instead of liquid money.
The thing is that if we get the fuck out of the EU and start deporting illegals the price of said buildings will drop and the economy will re-establish itself due to the amount of people off the social security.

The less the state has to pay, the better the economy.
Sanity is pretty much private nowadays so it would make close to no difference, same with education.

When I talk about migrating, I talk about doing it legally for the sole purpose of finding a job and breaking my fucking back in it to earn my sallary.
Not like mudslimes and chinese that come here to be literal pieces of shit sucking out of the state's tit.

And by the way, Spain was a great country 20 years ago. A stable, touristic and growing country that started making mistakes the moment we tried to be a international state instead of focusing on it's native citizens.

And no offense taken, but take none aswell when I tell you that France is one of the biggest shitholes of the EU nowadays aswell due to mass inmigration.

>getting rid of theu EU is a big step in that direction
I'm not EU big supporter, but I have to admit it saved our asses, globally, all EU members, from the last 2008 depression.
Without EU, Spain would have 15% interest rates, no more banking system, no industry, 35% jobless rate, 100% inflation rate. France surely the same figures.
All in all, never trust latin politicians when they blame other than themselves. When they blame EU for the catastrophic condition they leave the country in, please understand it's their fault, not the people they blame.
But you're free to go by yourself. Pretty interested to see where it would drive you.
Take care.

>All those FAMILIES OF 5 inmigrants buying houses with 700€ EACH

ftfy

>Literal chinese mafias place them there and rotate their workers accordingly, occupying most cheap houses in the process.

Holy shit fucking this.

I was in Santa Cruz, Tenerife a couple of years ago to visit my grandmother. The street she had lived in since the 1960s was now owned entirely by goddamn chinks. Every fucking shop was filled with those rats. They even bought this comfy old Canarian restaurant that I had gone to since I was a wee lad and turned it into a shitty pizza shop.

Fuck Chinese immigrants. They are also literally flooding the country with shitskins.

Nice try, Pedro the medicine student in Moscow. Russian ethnonationalists and population in general is hostile to anything that is not as white as snow
Tourists bring money and fuck off in a month or two, the immigrants destroy the ethnic makeup and job market

Oh how the times have changed amigo. Spain belongs to the indios now.

Then work for 700e and popout more kids, you're as worth as a nigger if you have no skills

>Nice try, Pedro the medicine student in Moscow. Russian ethnonationalists and population in general is hostile to anything that is not as white as snow

Sure...Your country has a lot of chinks and whatever pic related is.

obvious jewish bullshit.

>I know that I live in a country full of absolute retards but the Spanish people are more hardworking that they seem.

In all countries where the conditions are hard, people is hard working.
Take 2000's Latvia for instance. 10 hours a day, plus domestic/agricultural work to get decent meals.
But it won't change anything, the situation is fucked up.

>And by the way, Spain was a great country 20 years ago. A stable, touristic and growing country that started making mistakes the moment we tried to be a international state instead of focusing on it's native citizens.

A stable and touristic country built on lies and dreams.
Everybody knew, outside Spain, this economical boom of the 00s was anything but artificial.
By the way, right, our politicians in France tell the same shit to the people: our future is tourism.

>The less the state has to pay, the better the economy.
>Sanity is pretty much private nowadays so it would make close to no difference, same with education.

Take Venezuela. When a country collapse, of course social security system and education collapse first. Nothing new.

>When I talk about migrating, I talk about doing it legally for the sole purpose of finding a job and breaking my fucking back in it to earn my sallary.

Legally, you have little chance to complete your dream. In all countries, young people are starving for a decent job/salary.

>I tell you that France is one of the biggest shitholes of the EU nowadays aswell due to mass inmigration.

Some parts of France are preserved from roaches, believe me.
On a large scale and long term, you're right.
But I don't pretend I have naturally the right to emigrate to another country, for a dream salary I pretend I'm in right to naturally obtain.

Meds cluster with Jews more than with the rest of Europeans. Just saying
Tatar policemen and a gypsy probably. To get an idea of Russian race issue - imagine France tier enrichment with asiatic, but Poland/Latvia tier racist general population

>but I have to admit it saved our asses, globally, all EU members
There is no way a creation of the globalists is going to benefit the people. Whenever you see the name "EU" you can be 100% sure that's going to fuck you up.

Ofc there is more than just the EU but everything can improve taking power to a more local level instead of relying on outside institutions.

>15% interest rates, no more banking system
Bullshit. The real solution is banning usury and a debt based economy. Let the central bank print its own money without interest and execute (((those))) who currently have control over this.
>no industry
Again bullshit. In fact getting rid of global and european regulation can make our industry more competitive.
>35% jobless rate
Nope. Expell all foreigners and end unemployment benefits. In a few months you won't find jobless people.
>100% inflation rate
Inflation is the result of stealing through interest. End usury and inflation won't be a problem.

Every goverment in the West make its policies based on globalists guidelines, and the wellbeing of its people is the last of their concern. What we all need is putting our countries and people first.

Go to Galicia.
Rural area, no sandniggers.

>There is no way a creation of the globalists is going to benefit the people. Whenever you see the name "EU" you can be 100% sure that's going to fuck you up.
As it is, EU is indeed on the road to collapse.
But the trust and confidence in it saved our asses, regarding the impact of 2008.
institutions.

>Bullshit. The real solution is banning usury and a debt based economy. Let the central bank print its own money without interest and execute (((those))) who currently have control over this.
At this point, you're not redpilled, you're redsuppositoried.
I'm ok with it, let the Spantards prints their own monkey money, the amount they want.
Wait 10 years, Venezuela in better shape than Spain.

>Again bullshit. In fact getting rid of global and european regulation can make our industry more competitive.
Well, why haven't you done it BEFORE, instead of sending tons of lazy spantards to Western Europe?
Maybe it's too difficult, maybe it requires a good education system, some no "siesta" timetables?

>Nope. Expell all foreigners and end unemployment benefits. In a few months you won't find jobless people.
Oh yes, please, go for it.
Your tomatoes won't be so cheap in markets.

>Inflation is the result of stealing through interest. End usury and inflation won't be a problem.
Bullshit.
Inflation is the result of supply and demand distortion.

>Every goverment in the West make its policies based on globalists guidelines, and the wellbeing of its people is the last of their concern. What we all need is putting our countries and people first.
Seriously, they already tried it before. It doesn't work.

Plan A: get rid of the moroccans or send them all to Catalonia (most are already there)
Send the romanians back to Romania
Cut the gibs for gypsies and circle jerk shit like movie and arts industry in this country, most surviving on gob help

>But I don't pretend I have naturally the right to emigrate to another country, for a dream salary I pretend I'm in right to naturally obtain.

I don't think this is the issue with some Spaniards. There is literally no upward mobility in that country. Too much centralized corruption and nepotism. A lot of talented people leave the country so they can excel in a place that will give them a fighting chance. This is why people have always immigrated. I'm not saying your wrong. You are absolutely right but I think from the point of view of a Spaniard or a Portuguese that has the skills to make a better life for themselves and is unable to do so in their home country due to impossible circumstances. Then I can't really blame them for making use of their E.U. passport and working elsewhere. The big crux of Mediterranean countries is their centralized government and Spain has that plus all the tensions with their autonomous region and corrupt banking systems. There is no easy solution for them. They would need radical change. One way to start is to stop importing poorly educated migrants into the country and giving them citizenship.

I don't know why people think Spain has no industry. Spain actually has quite a lot of industry. Their biggest problem is that they keep borrowing money from the E.U. banks and they have too much corruption in the government. If Spain managed to clean house with their politicians make some sweeping reforms to root out oligarchs and money in politics as well as fix their absolutely moronic tax laws. Even if they were kicked out of the E.U. or decided to leave they would do fine; possibly better than had they stayed. Spain is one of the largest exporters of goods in Europe. They would likely benefit more from a Brexit situation than even the U.K.

Come here, buy lands near the germans, sell and travel to the highlands (optional), bleach, bring more extremeños.

Leave the EU and prepare for the reconquista

May god hear you based british.

I wonder if spaniards realize they're actually uppity arabs and berbers that got stuck in the wrong continent

really makes me think

Exactly.
Yet the left here is incredibly hypocritical, as they are in favor of the independence of catalonia and the basque country yet they fear they day Spain leaves the EU.

Our politicians are rotten, each and every one of them.

This is the best option tbqh. Spain should follow U.K.'s example and leave. They are much better off outside the E.U. Spain isn't like Greece which has zero industry. They have the largest trade port in the Mediterranean. They have a lot of industry and can sustain themselves.

British, Portuguese and Spanish trade alliance when? Control all imports from the Americas and impose ridiculous import taxes on E.U. members.

Excellent comment my friend. Well thought out and researched.

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Thank you.

It seems that neither the carthaginese, nor the romans, nor the visigoths were able to change your genetic composition.

But moors were able too. That's why all of you got dark hair now.

kek

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It's called fighting for your land. Start killing and terrorizing the mudslimes and niggers and maybe they'll leave.

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>Arabs lived there for 800 years, they controlled the area, nomsayin. From 800s to around 1600s.

>They obviously breeded with the females in the area and after a couple of centuries, most spanish people have a good percent of arabic blood

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>Nice try, Pedro the medicine student in Moscow.

Stop LARPing as Bavarian or Russian living in Russia, Albanian and troll with weak bait.

There's no Iberians studing Medicine in Russia. They would have to learn Cyrillic script, Russian language, etc.

That map only proves that moors converted to christianity and now they're pretending to be europeans.

Y de hecho soy cubano de Miami.

By the way, what's the concensus among Spaniards about splitting Spain into a few independent states? Like, detach Catalunia, create Al-Andalus from Andalucía (know a couple of andaluces who support this idea), give independence to Vasco country and keep everything what is left?

You faggots are so obvious. Every time there is a 'Spaniards are not white' thread it is some kind of sudaca behind the post. Must hurt knowing some nigger ancestor of yours spread her legs for some superior Spanish seed.

Neither Cuba nor United States is in south america.

Moor geography education must be behind the rest of Europe.

Just so you know, 'sudaca' is a term we use over here to refer to latino people, just like you.

So its all about envy?

Not our fault that you're moorish converts while we descend from latin people.

>you're moorish converts while we descend from latin people.
How does that make any sense?

visigoth and latin spaniards were exiled by the moorish christian kings

After the reconquista we drove out all the muslims and jews. Thats why we are white and only 0,25% of the population is jewish.
In your case you are just half iberian at best, sorry Pancho.

>we are white

pictured: emilio mola, leader of the fascist coup d'etat in spain

It has no historical basis whatsoever. Its the local elites trying to organize the country according to their needs. The main parties have a central politburo and regional buros where local politicians can thrive without having to compete with the central leadership. Thus the number of thieving politicians is maximized.

HOWEVER the regional elites have bought their votes by giving subsides to their supporters. So there is money trickling down to many people.
The politicians are selling the idea that a federation will mean more money for the regions, and thus some of these voters might support the splitting just for economic reasons (which of course is bullshit, a centralized government is more efficient)

>a centralized government is more efficient

Of course it is not. A centralized government consolidates power into a smaller area and will only create more corruption.

>Sub-human latin scum trying to be better than anyone else

Your life must be a constant turmoil of pain and self-loathing, Daniel. Im so sorry for u.

>Tatar policemen and a gypsy probably. To get an idea of Russian race issue - imagine France tier enrichment with asiatic, but Poland/Latvia tier racist general population

This is actually a pretty good description, thanks.

Go back to snowland, Sven.

kek

After reading your butthurt posts I find your first post rather ironic When will you sudacas grow out of your inferiority complex. Also, you must be a new wave Cuban or something because I've met quite a few Cubans from Miami and they all seem to love us. I'm going to assume you are a mulato that went to Spain thinking "WE WUZ" and instead got called a negro.

>This country has become a third-world moorish paradise
Damn, I knew spainards were slow but I thought it was just a myth

I love Spain.

But it pains me to see you won't accept your clearly predominant muslim heritage.

Shit, this just goes to show the hypocrisy of the eternal anglo and baguette.

Bahahaha and you were the one talking about education. The muslim conquest happened many centuries before that america was discovered.

Yeah, they got conquered for 800 years and then the arabs and berbers converted to christianism.

Sure thing Filiberto, you should really get off La Carreta's wifi and get back to work. Mr. Smith's toilets wont clean themselves.

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You do realize we are a model minority and on average we make more money than anglo-americans right?

Based Rey Pelayo disagrees

And then the same arabs an berbers converts were expelled to north africa. So where does the "we're goths and latins but you're moors" bullshit you said come from?

>anglo-americans right

Source: tu Culo.

I do like Cubans for the most part. The ones that came here after Castro are far whiter than most of our other children. There's always a bad apple.

Assuming for a second that you are being serious and not just baiting us for (You)'s. You have proven by your ignorant comments that you don't know anything about Spanish history nor it's people.

Another lie? Prove it.

The goths and latins realized that now that their people were converted muslims they didn't have a causes beli to expell them, so they exiled themselves and went on to conquer the new world.

That's why the average latino from Argentina or Cuba is whiter than the whitest of Spaniards.

Okay, so this confirms you are just a massive shitposter. Kudos my mulato friend. I'll enjoy a mojito in honor of your successful bait.

You... you just cant be so idiot user haha.

a low bait i will supose.

At least you know when to give up. Salam aleikum.

Do as I did my fellow compatriota, emigrate legally and find a job, save some money and then get the fuck out of these northern countries where the sun never shines.

But really, the shock when coming here, going out one day to find a job and coming home with said job, still surprises me. In Spain that was unthinkable. And it might be a shitty manufacture job or similar but still It allows me to save around 600-800 pounds per month, I'm literally saving more each month than the whole salary I would be getting in Spain, and this is with a very low tier job here.

I miss the food and the people though...

Are you retarded? I just told you that converts were expelled.