Have you ever met an intelligent religious person?

Have you ever met an intelligent religious person?

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Google some GK Chesterton vids, faggot. Not to mention TS Eliot, Aquinas, Calvin, Milton, Kierkegaard, hell, one could even consider Nietzsche "religious" if one isn't sporting a fedora.

Sure. Have you ever posted bait before, or is this your first time?

Nevermind, Nazis are dumb enough to trick I guess. Carry on.

C.S. Lewis, J.R.R.Tokien were both very religious. So we're about 85% of all US Presidents.

Question here is, have you ever met a smart atheist who wasn't terrified of dying?

can't say that i have

>implying ricky isn't at least 140+ IQ
fuck outta here bud dont make me grab my sks

yes. my dad spent 20 years in the air force. started out as a nuclear weapons specialist, then worked in the intelligence community/air force media. after that he worked for nasa. he has an iq of 146. and now he's a pastor.

I genuinely have not. I know they're out there but I've yet to meet one.

I've met plenty of them. You find a few of them in engineering and medicine. Also quite a few pastors are high IQ.

Low IQ spotted

Have you ever fell for it or is this your first time?

We could do this all night

How do you think this happens?

Intelligence and skepticism needn't be inherently linked. One can be intelligent but fail to ask important questions due to his upbringing. I tend to think of it as, high intelligence makes it more likely that you'll have a skeptic outlook on reality, but it deosn't give guaranteed.

My Uni profesor for Prob and Statistics. Mathematicians can be conservative as fuck.

Never met an intelligent person reposting atheist memes though, now that you mention it.

I have edited your image to display a more refined truth.

Here we go again. The short answer is whether you believe in God yourself is irrelevant. It's keeps a lot of shitdicks in line and allows western society to exist. Ever hear of the Golden Rule? Yeah. That's the main reason your pathetic ass lived long enough to make your shitty post.

I agree.

But, by what mechanism can people be so blind or apply so little or misguided scepticism to particular beliefs, do you think? It's quite amazing.

i am

Jihadists arent afraid of death.

No.

>advocating to return to the ways of generations long ago
>Sup Forums is also against drug use
yeah nah
Insults need to make sense for them to have any bite.

The problem with religion is that in order to believe in one, you must put aside all logic. That's a club I'd rather not belong to.

Your father is an alcoholic and a fiend

Are you actually being serious right now my dude?

Yes. Aww, are you triggered?

16-19 year old who misunderstands atheism detected

I used to be an atheist. Then I graduated highschool.

>tips autism

So you started believing in things without sufficient evidence? Wew my laddo.

Not a fedora but what created god? Or what was before God?

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dubs.

Gays are pretty disgusting to be honest though.

So, even after knowing the solution to the magic trick, you still believe in magic. Cool story bro.

>fedora tipper
>calling other autistic
whew

Exactly. As if theistic claims are any more rational.

The difference is one is based on a book, and the other is based on study, and doesn't necessarily lead to conclusions - unlike what the pic is implying. Intredasting that.

Yes, I also think some of their excuses are quite creative too.

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Religion is very dumb and for dumb people only. Le epic science, on the other hand, is extremely epic and rational and logical and if something isn't rational and logic it has no value at all. Science can be used to explain literally everything, even things like the creation of existence and the birth of consciousness. We can even use scientific formulas to pull morals from the ether.

Science is truly the most epic thing that has ever been epic.

Nah m8. Many people are atheists for very bad reasons.

Man created the idea of God. Man aspires to be God. Religion filled a important philosophical goal that atheism has no answer for.

I never once said I was a theist, but it didn't stop you from going full autismo.
Atheism is literally just as retarded as theism.

The difference is one is based on a book, and the other is based on study, and doesn't necessarily lead to conclusions - unlike what the pic is implying. Intredasting that.

Someone screencap this shit, dis niga retarded

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What did he mean by this?

God isn't a proper noun unless you're referring to him by name, my dude

>Atheism is literally just as retarded as theism.
doesn't understand agnostic atheism

predictable/10

You are the cancer ruining Sup Forums

What's retarded about that my dude?

You can't be both agnostic and atheistic. This is just some retarded phrase fedora tippers invented by mashing them together to make atheism less retarded. Agnosticism is the master race.

Stop

Gnosticism refers to knowledge
Theism refers to belief

Agnosticism isn't a valid belief position, please do your research. Estimated age 18

Seriously, explain

Atheists don't say, "I know there is no God." What Atheists say is, "I haven't seen evidence strong enough for me to believe in God."

Two very different things.

I grew up Catholic. Believed in it all my life until I was around 20/21 years old when I began thinking about it logically. I'm so glad I have escaped the irrational ball and chain that is religion. I'm an Atheist because I haven't seen any direct evidence of the Christian God for me to believe in him, in the same way I haven't seen any evidence of leprechauns, Buddha, Egyptian gods, Greek gods, Allah, or unicorns.

Who isn't afraid of dying. Shit, I'm religious and I would genuinely HATE to leave my loved ones behind along with any future Earthly experiences. Even if i go to heaven (where you can get basically whatever you want), experincing those things would be artificial and I would know deep down that what i would be experiencing is not real (much less the fact that I couldn't truly experience those things with my loved ones if they are alive).

P.S. - You just got duped dumbass; I'm agnostic, but just showed how your argument is invalid to even religious people. And I bet you'll try to call me stupid (or a dirty sinner) for this.

pea-brain: religion is true
normal-brain: atheism is true
big-brain: agnosticism is true
enlightened-brain: universe has some ontological purpose which requires it to be
transcendental-brain: Earth is 9000 years old.

god has never "appeared" in any religion visibly before Jesus Christ appeared. Its the definition of God that he is where people are Not. Then by Jesus it became that the holy spirit works through those who belive in Jesus.

Wich is true in a psychological sense. Ljung and Nietszcie both know you view the world through a lense of your beleifs, and if you belive in Jesus and belive that doing good is Good - your see the world through the spectrum of "what good can i do"

Have fun looking at the world through "why am i so worthless and not popular like normies" lense if you prefer that. But why the hell woud you choose such a horrible alter to kneel on?

>big-brain: agnosticism is true
implying atheism is a positive assertion no god(s) exist.. wew

John Romero.

Repeating the lie over and over again will not make it any more true.

No. You are describing Agnosticism. Word for word.
Atheist are embarrassed they have to defend such a shitty poorly thought out position and try to lump themselves in with Agnostics.

can we turn this into an atheist cringe thread

Can you post some fedora memes against me? I'm not sure if I'm still scared of the fedora meme but I was at one point. I need to know if social shaming still affects me. Give me your best fedora memes.

>no evidence for God
>no evidence for no God
>profound theological and existential discussion descends into name-calling

Every.

Damn.

Time.

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It already was

Yes, multiple.
Does this answer your question?
I'm an atheist, so I hope it carries some weight.

Let me ask you a question, user. Do you hold a belief in god(s)? Are you theist?

A light switch can't be half way between on and off.

to be fair I'm sure some atheists do make that assertion

For the trillionth time: if you need religion to have morals, you are subhuman. That is the literal definition.

Which one of you did this?

Exactly.

So a-theism is the default position.

Pretty simps.

but what if you need religion to force others to conform to said morals

don't bother he's just going to come back at you with some retarded bullshit. He's too far gone and too determined to not label himself as an atheist.

ok

>Do you hold a belief in god(s)
I am not sure. And it's not due to the lack of time spent thinking on the subject.

>A light switch can't be half way between on and off.
Belief in a idea structure isn't something you entire believe in or not. Their are grains of truth with in some of these tales. All of it is worth considerable study. To throw it all away "because god is dumb" is completely moronic and only something an atheist is capable of.

Have you ever not shitposted?

That is true, strong/gnostic atheists do, but they're as retarded as gnostic theists.

Just turns out gnostic atheism is very rare.

Oh look: Another preachy evangelical atheist preaching and pushing her religion on us.

This is basically secular materialism in a nutshell...

The evidence of ''no - God'' is that.. there is no God.

Are you stupid?

If you're not sure you hold a belief then it means you do not hold a belief. You're by definition atheistic. You just reject the label because you've muddled your thinking, probably because of stigma.

Atheism is the default position, and agnosticism isn't a valid belief position. You can read about this my man.

Ricky wasn't religious, Ray was. And Ray was at least as smart as Julian.

A lot of them you fucking faggot , just because you are too fucking stupid to actually meet some people who value religion that does not mean that there arent intelligent religous people ( which there are and it is scientifically proven that a the vast majority of the smartest people in the world are actually religious).

Honestly I would be so disappointed to live in a universe where the last panel isn't true, though in a way more abstract way than even described there. Tho sometimes I think if there's no advantage to being a conscious being vs. a philosophical zombie then it makes no sense for humans to have evolved consciousness so maybe I'm the only conscious being and everything is an illusion I've come up with to distract myself from eternity.

Yes, many. Plus, most of the standout people in history were religious. Atheism is a new Jewish trend that is antithetical to human nature and invites hubris and narcissism.

You're right

Just got back from the pub and I need to sober up a bit before the snooze

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Sorry for my grammar im drunk as hell

noice

Correct.
Organized religion serves as a tool of control, nothing more.

Sorry missed the second bit
>Their are grains of truth with in some of these tales
>Their

I'm not talking about tales, theism != religion

>To throw it all away "because god is dumb"

Who made that claim? I would make a claim that believing in a god is pretty dumb, however

What are you drinking? I had a Mountain Dew a few hours ago, do you like Mountain Dew?

>I am not sure.

Lol. You either believe in God or you don't. If you don't believe in God you can be unsure about whether or not he does exist all you want.

You can also believe in God, while also being unsure of whether or not he actually exists, but for whatever reason you choose to BELIEVE (eg. have faith) that he does exist, and thus be an agnostic theist.

Tbh whether you're an atheist or a theist, I think being agnostic is the only acceptable position. To unironically be gnostic is pretty retarded.

>If you're not sure you hold a belief then it means you do not hold a belief.
Wrong. The state of unsure is a decision to take in itself, and to maintain it is a belief.

>You're by definition atheistic.
Wrong. You by definition are Agnostic, you've muddled your thinking, probably because of stigma (I understand atheism is quite fashionable in the UK right now, you must be so popular!)

>Atheism is the default position, and agnosticism isn't a valid belief position
Repeating a lie over and over will not make it come true.

Atheists arent skeptical. They make the assumption that the universe suddenly magically created itself out of nothing and morality doesnt exist and everyone who has ever lived except for atheists is wrong about everything then refuse to question any of those assumptions and dismiss anyone who asks them.

Fuck, hand me a goddamn fedora for this one...

I've met smart religious people but I don't think it's possible to be intelligent and religious. Belief of religion requires suspension of logic; an intelligent person wouldn't engage in thought that requires suspension of such an innately human trait.

Maybe but only God can give any meaning to said morals.

Mark Lanier. Millionaire trial lawyer from Houston.

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I've heard him speak many times.

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Former atheist by the way.

>mfw too intelligent not to live in a dumpster with pissjuggs