Does anyone want the Soviet Union back?

Does anyone want the Soviet Union back?

Loads of kids I know, both Russians and edgy communist Brits, wax lyrical about it. Its nuclear accomplishments, space programme, conventional military might etc. etc. Does anyone on Sup Forums feel the same way?

Truthfully, Russia and the wider Eastern bloc seems to be in much better shape now than at any time that the Soviet Union was around. Though, then again, some Russian mates of mine did say the Soviet Union was the reason a lot of these Eastern Bloc countries entered modernity.

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Why? All those things could be achieved, and even more, with a nationalistic Russia.

I wish I could hang every one of those communists, both from USSR and edgy kids. They deserve it.

>Though, then again, some Russian mates of mine did say the Soviet Union was the reason a lot of these Eastern Bloc countries entered modernity.
Lol okay.

Yeah East Germans were such bumbling backwards retards, thankfully the Russians civilized them!

I don't think they were talking about East Germany. More like Bulgaria, Kazakhstan, the Baltics, those sorts of places.

The best country in human history, the workers state, must come back.

>United Kingdom
>wants communism
Why am I not surprised?
>Does anyone want the Soviet Union back?
FUCK. NO.

Still look at the graph. People don't tend to realize, but Hungary and Poland were richer countries than Spain back in the 1930s. Almost on par with Italy. And the Czechs were one of the richest countries in Europe.

Thank god Spain massacred all of its commies, or it would have suffered the same fate.

God you're brainwashed

Probably just b8ing, nobody is that unironically dumb.

You'll be wrong

>the Soviet Union was the reason a lot of these Eastern Bloc countries entered modernity
Those would be randomname-stans only.

>leaves ussr
>joins new uss- EU
wat

Your friends are literally retarded and NASA within 10 years while still completely private outclassed them. We here in the US technically gave the USSR peasant army weapons to die in the tens of millions, nothing to be proud of the Germans 3-4 Russians for every German killed.

I don't see the difference. Workers lived in suffering in USSR and Russia, but if they can have space program back and launch probes and cosmonauts into space again then sure, bring Soviet Union back. youtube.com/watch?v=rKjNOj8KAvM

I'm not very political but I have to admit Imperial Russia was undoubtful superpower, so was Soviet Union. Modern Russia is hardly one.

Also it's nuclear capacities aren't modern.

The concept of having millions of Russians starve again is tempting but I think I'll pass.

Every time someone sings songs about some "amazing" system like communism, it's as if one sings about their own incarceration into one hell of a gulag, no matter what ideology. Self-mutilation is a thing nowadays, you've noticed that well.
Fpbp.

>leaves ussr
Wrong.
>didn't even join willingy, was annexed and forced to
There was still fighting going on in the late 195s here.

imperial Russia was, the Soviet Union only had influence in its own sphere it couldn't stretch much further besides for some isolated islands.

>195s
1950s*

>More like Bulgaria, Kazakhstan, the Baltics, those sorts of places.
>the Baltics

Britbongs should leave.

You still didn't answer why you joined the EU?

>Thank god Spain massacred all of its commies

They just migrated here.

I think you should leave

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Because it was either EU or Russia. Small nations always have to choose a side.

Tbh, USSR improved standard of living in central asia and siberia, they build mines and factories there. They destroyed enviorment and way of living of those people, tho.
In case of Easern Europe, including eastern Russia, they destroyed everything and make our life a living hell/shithole.

The balance of power the USSR stood for, was crucial in keeping the peace.

Everything went to shit from the early 90s all over the world. Thank god for Computers.

I think they were pretty much the same. They could project great power at their borders but not so much in far away continents, but Soviet Union still had bigger reach.

Worst Imperial Russia could do was own Alaska, but they had to sell it to America because they had no means of defending it. But when has America been as worried as during Cuban missile crisis?

Kruschev even said Castro went rogue, and during the civil war,the Spanish American war,and Americans during world war 1 constantly were in fear of German submarine bombardments on harbors and ships all over the coast and in the Atlantic.

>Kraut submarines sink few ships with whatever torpedoes they hae
Seems like pretty insignificant damage even if they succeeded 100%. Few ships won't kill any country.

Whether you want it or not - doesn't matter - it's not coming back. It will not protect you from evils of Amerikanski imperialism.

There's nobody can help
you. Say it.

Granting complete autonomy to separate regions and forced russification are not "pretty much the same"
And the difference is that the USSR destroyed sovereign nations, Russian Empire didn't.
The moment a nation becomes independent it will be alomst impossible to unmake it in the peoples minds, and they will constantly strive to restore it by any means necessary.
That is what happened back then, and will happen in the near future again.

>Does anyone want the Soviet Union back?
No. Communism is Jewish.

>Does anyone on Sup Forums feel the same way?
No, I'm not a stupid jewish communist.

>Truthfully, Russia and the wider Eastern bloc seems to be in much better shape now than at any time that the Soviet Union was around. Though, then again, some Russian mates of mine did say the Soviet Union was the reason a lot of these Eastern Bloc countries entered modernity.
You're a fucking idiot (aka judeo communist) if you really think that.

>I don't think they were talking about East Germany. More like Bulgaria, Kazakhstan, the Baltics, those sorts of places.
I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about, commie faggot.

There are too many people on /pol that don't want to hear about socialism or learn anything about it because of the degenerate american leftists. It just might be that the rich capitalists are funding the most denegerate idiots to undermine the socialist idea and get rid of any reaming socialist rights, bring us back to 1800's working for them for peanuts 12 hours a day. I mean, is there anything in it for Trump to ban cheap workforce and pay the white american male 5 times more? They're playing 5d chess. Think about it.

No, we don't want to feed them any more at our expense. Such idiotic antiempire where provinces live better than metropolis shouldn't exist.

Though for UK/US working people it would be better if USSR still existed, as they were allowed to live more or less well only to stop them from making revolution, having USSR as example. No USSR - no improvement of living standards anymore.

It's not the same from Finland's perspective. When Imperial Russia took us from Sweden it was at first pretty nice era, they granted us autonomy and many freedoms and industries improved. But then they started russificating the place and oppressing Finnish culture.

After WW1 and Russian civil war in their moment of weakness Lenin granted us independence for free. No great battles, nothing. We just separated. I guess it was far worse for Baltics since you guys stayed under Soviet rule even after WW2. I think we got off pretty easily.

>There are too many people on /pol that don't want to hear about socialism or learn anything about it because of the degenerate american leftists.
Judeo Socialism is Jewish.
Degeneracy is Jewish.
"Leftism" aka Liberalism is Jewish.

>It just might be that the rich capitalists
Capitalism is Jewish too.

>are funding the most denegerate idiots to undermine the socialist idea and get rid of any reaming socialist rights, bring us back to 1800's working for them for peanuts 12 hours a day.
Oh no. You believe the Judeo Commie talking points.

>I mean, is there anything in it for Trump to ban cheap workforce and pay the white american male 5 times more?
Whites should be paid more in White countries. They're our countries.

I want the Soviet Union Back, and I want China and Vietnam to be totally communist again. And I wish they'd invade India and Pakistan too.

There's be less places to ship western jobs to.
There's be less places to outsource

Mind you that after WW2 we could easily have toy eradicated or make you join the USSR, if we wanted it. You were left alone for a purpose.

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No thanks, even tho the life wasn't that bad back then, especially in Baltics. Childhood nostalgia makes it even better, but bolshevism is plaque, that had to be eradicated much faster, still feel sorry for everyone who suffered under red regime. All people I know who want USSR back are those, who lost everything they had faith in after 1991 and went a bit insane. Or those whose life sucked in 90's.

And they right ! the Soviet Union brought progress not only to eastern Europe but also to Asia

>Though, then again, some Russian mates of mine did say the Soviet Union was the reason a lot of these Eastern Bloc countries entered modernity.
Fuck you and your friends !

Trump is pro Jewish. Have you been living under a rock lately?

I know, there could have been a war after WW2 and nobody would have cared about Finland. If I was Finnish leader after 1945 I would have memed for western defense alliance since then, but I would have been wrong because no war happened.

>I think we got off pretty easily
You think correctly. 1945 was the end of the war for most, but for us it was merely the first half of it.
And having ones flag and language outright banned for the first two decades within this "union" makes one cherish them more,
it's as the saying goes "You don't know what you got until it's gone".

How does one enter modernity wihout capitalism is beyond me.

>Trump is pro Jewish.
Yes, I know. Did I ever state that I supported Trumpberg?

Welfare payments

good one

Israel's turn next?

>Oh no, he wants workers to have basic social rights. Schlomo detected.

>workers to have basic social rights
Sounds like a jewish communist to me.

>rights
There is no such thing.
You commie apologists don't understand what you are asking for.

>How does one enter modernity wihout capitalism is beyond me.
How indeed

How does one enter modernity (with communism) is beyond me. Thanks for correction.

>How does one enter modernity (with communism) is beyond me. Thanks for correction.
No problem.

I'l be more specific. Im asking for minimum wage and minimum working conditions that the employer must provide in order to prevent workers from exploitation. Is that a ludicrous concept?

Have you ever been to /leftypol/?

>minimum wage and minimum working conditions
...are bullshit. My current job pays below minimum wage, and my previous one didn't have (almost) any of the "required" gear, so I had to bring my own.
These "rights" and whatnot are just white lies people tell themselves so that they can sleep better at night.
>prevent workers from exploitation
The only wat to achieve that is to not have workers. There is no other way.
Where do you idealists come from? have you never left your habitat?

>Im asking for minimum wage
Does nothing but harm the people.

> and minimum working conditions
Oh look. More inept government bureaucracy.

Only young people think this is a good idea.
Anyone old enough to remember the cccp knows it was shit

It seems you know nothing about soviet nostalgia in ex-USSR countries.

Only your nation and Kazahstan benefitted from it, the rest suffered.

I just want the clay back, don't care about ideology.

>more mouths to feed

and then blame putin because he cant print money for all the shitskins

You already do. And nearly 90% of it is uninhabited.

The day the Soviet Union went kaput, the United States started going into SJW Retard mode.

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the feels comrade

Putin put it best when he said "People in Russia say that those who do not regret the collapse of the Soviet Union have no heart, and those that do regret it have no brain."

Fuck off.
If you like or support the Soviet Union = you sucked off a nigger

(((USSR)))

A quick rundown

Making propaganda films about interracial adoption IN 1936

funding (((Civil Rights))) in the US

funding and arming Mandela terrorists

funding anti-racist anti-colonialist groups in Europe.

(((USSR))) CÜCKPOSTED IRL.

"Circus" (Russian: Циpк; translit. Tsirk) is a 1936 Soviet melodramatic comedy musical film.

Orlova plays an American circus artist who, after giving birth to a black baby (played by James Lloydovich Patterson), immediately becomes a victim of racism and is forced to stay in the circus, but finds refuge, love and happiness in the USSR. Her black son is embraced by friendly (((Soviet))) people.

>Soviet Jewnion was so ((((((((based)))))))

Soviets were the first to came up with making IR relationship films and importing nigges en masse

Commie sympathetic scum, go and adopt a nigger

Because it's 1936

Only low IQ old drunks and shitskins miss it

>funding (((Civil Rights))) in the US
>funding and arming Mandela terrorists
>funding anti-racist anti-colonialist groups in Europe.
USSR was not supposed to be friendly with us you know, this seems pretty expected.

The Soviet Union would also step on little people like you.

I was reading Stalin. He argues how capitalists would make Russia mono-importer to bu their stuff and stay down and how important to make complicated stuff (machines that make machines) to be on top. Ironically modern Russia is exactly that - oil/wheat exporter, imports all else.

Stalin was a backward asian dictator but smart af.

>Its nuclear accomplishments
Stealing blueprints from the US is an accomplishment now?
>space programme
Stealing blueprints from Nazis is an accomplishmen nowt?
>conventional military
Wew zerg rush so le badass xD

Honor the legacy of the Soviet Union by digging your own grave and offing yourself.

>kill all of your competent military personnel so that the Germans can rape your troops all the way to Moscow and then slaughter 15-20 million of your citizens
>still manage to kill more of your own citizens on accident than your enemies did on purpose
>smart af
Lmao

>Hitler managed to ruin his country and Europe
>Churchill managed to get in debt and ruin the Empire
>Stalin managed to become a superpower after devastating war.
Yeah, kinda. Even Hitler praised him before war.

I don't want the Soviet Union back but it was objectively better than the EU

during communist times we had:

-borders!
-a strong army
-excellent education
-significantly higher cultural output - all the Bulgarian sci-fi classics I love are from communist times, there were actually decent movies being made, there was no chalga and other gypsy shit
-no demographic crisis, while now we are going extinct at breakneck speed
-science, industry
-social security and decent living standard for most people

All of this is much more important than having bigger variety of consumer goods, most of them being shit, especially the food.

Also, small countries cannot truly be sovereign, so if we are vassals of somebody, I would prefer for them to be people similar to me. So I want us to be allies with Russia. They treated us with much more respect, too. For example there were no soviet military bases on our soil and we were trusted with a very strong army for our size. Now we have no army and 3 american bases.

It gave Americans a common enemy to fear. Unfortunately a threat that would unify the country in a lot of aspects would be exploited like fuck today. (IE: The Patriot Act)

The USSR only became a superpower because of the war. Germany dismantled Eastern European states, then crashed and burned because it had picked war with half the world and Eastern Europe was easy to take.

If the war hadn't happened Stalin would have been remembered just like other communist dictators who turned their countries into famine ridden rustbuckets entirely relying on stealing Western technology.

USSR did it to it's own European population too, mongoloid.

USSR = nigger adopting subhumans

Heck when Czech'1968 happened and USSR asked for Warsaw pact help to make their ((visit)) look legit Romania and DDR refused to join with no consequences to them.
And soviets did not drag the rest to Afghanistan like USA did. Kinda funny when poles or baltics cry of muh occupation yet are perfectly fine acting as occupation force in ME today.

Russian were based motherfuckers with a strong nation instead of shitskin terrorist states on their border , at least we knew what they stood for and controlled their borders unlike kiked EuroFags !!

>USSR only became a superpower because of the war

And so this makes Stalin an idiot? You're talking in hypotheticals, like "IF HISTORY HADN'T HAVE HAPPENED THE SOVIET UNION WOULD HAVE SUCKED I SWEAR" but Stalin propelled it into a world superpower and everywhere else in Europe was a shithole after the war.

Was this because Russia was filled with millions of disposable lemmings who would die at the front until Germany couldn't take it anymore? Was it because America fed them arms? Was it because they made a deal with the Nazis and then fought against them at the right time? Maybe, but nobody else was able to do this shit. They turned the war around in real lived history, not a fantasy of how they actually sucked and Stalin was a retard that actually ate feces. Deal with it fag.

If it was so great, why did it collapse in the first place? Checkmate bolsheviks.

The USSR was a great means of killing communists.

Yes but without communism.

Soviets sure knew how to deal with minorities. Enjoy your propiska (registration place) comrade, resettling is illegal you keep fuking goats where you live da. What is it chechens and crimean tartars dislike government fine fine enjoy free travel to middle of nowhere, 15 minutes before we start shooting people outside the train wagons, your villages burn already so you stay there forever da. Very happy family we are. Who diagrees? nobody disagrees!

>stealing Western technology.
Soviets paid for that stuff usually. Christie suspension for T-34 for example was bought $13k for blueprints and $20k for a prototype tank. Which was kinda illegal at a time, we got tank in a wooden box saying "candy" from USA.

>Truthfully, Russia and the wider Eastern bloc seems to be in much better shape now than at any time that the Soviet Union was around
It depens on your metrics entirely. As far as opportunity - sure, it's much better. But as far as societal health, economic prowess, political clout, all of them are anywhere near the spot US held prior to perestroika, also known as self destruct button hit by gorbachev in his ideology driven insanity.

What do you mean by this?
Economics, size, ethnical politics, diplomacy are different things.
About last - Russia still fights against USA - main enemy of British empire.

> Does anyone on Sup Forums feel the same way?
yeah we sure do miss waiting in a queue for 5 hours just to get toilet paper

> these are those people

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

I don't agree with communism, but the USSR's achievements were damn impressive.
Kudos to Stalin for killing more commies than Hitler tho

You and me both

>Stealing blueprints from Nazis is an accomplishmen nowt?
To be fair, von Braun (the designer of the V-2) did move to the US after the war and did help the US with its space program, so desu the US is just as guilty. Stealing designs or ideas from other nations and civilizations is something everyone has done at one point or another, this is like complaining that Europeans stole gunpowder from the Chinese.
Also:
>First operational interceptor with PESA radar
>First nuclear ICBM that went into service
>First mass produced IFV
>First air defense system capable of operating autonomously
>Develope gunship more armored and faster than any western counterpart of the time. Can also double as a transport
There's no doubt that the US also had a ton of developmental feats in terms of military during the Cold War, but to call the Soviet military trash isn't really accurate as well