Is the desire for fairness a type of greed?

Is the desire for fairness a type of greed?

Firstly, socialism isn't the same as communism (your flag)
Imo socialism isn't inherently bad as long as you limit it on your own countrymen

this is an immigrant country. it's never going to work here

maybe in a more homogenous country where the people mostly have the same skin color and beliefs it'd work.

What if America broke up into 4 countries? Like. The liberal northwest doesn't need to be affected by the conservative south and visa versa?

thirdly, socialism is for filthy parasites who like to forcibly steal from actual useful capable providers.

After we purge the leftists we purge the retarded natsocs like you.

Even in that scenario.
None would willingly give up his hard earned money so that a degenerate pothead can get his healthcare.

where's secondly?

Sharing is voluntary and not the same as taking by force at gunpoint, stupid faggot

No.

>sharing = stealing productive people's money and giving it to the lazy and useless

>people who work harder are smarter and produce more should only have the same amount of stuff as me
>Stalin ate the best caviar.

greed

Nah

*at gunpoint

Socialism is the culling of parasites. Parasitic Jews that make money off of lending money. They aren't contributing anything to real production, the government can just as easily give loans to businesses that need them, and the government doesn't have to charge usurious interest rates to do it.

Forcing someone to "share" the fruits of their labor is theft. Why not donate to a charity if you feel so strongly about it?

>"You're selfish for not giving me half the money you made!"

How is it sharing of you have to force them to?

Socialism and Communism (shut up I know they're not identical) are inherently super greedy. The whole idea of 'it's the best political philosophy ON PAPER' is bullshit. In the pursuit of equalizing the financial classes you necessitate a ruling class (or a.. one percent if you will) that moderates the rest of the population and distributes the wealth accordingly. This means that socialists and commies are so retarded they ended up working towards what they paradoxically say they fight against, that's not even mentioning the social hindrances these ideas cause, by limiting free speech they think it's a positive despite getting into the public perception through free speech

You don't have to be greedy to think it's a good idea for people who sit on absolute mountains of self-accumulating wealth to put some of it back into the populace.

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Useless as in what? Does not everybody deserve to be offered a baseline standard of living and care simply because they are alive?

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Heavily socialist countries have the highest level of happiness

>Socialism is the culling of parasites.
It's the exact opposite lmao. It's the rewarding of parasites.

No.

The question is who you're sharing with.

They do. They fund charities, non-profits, start-ups, private research, etc. Get a fucking job.

But capitalism is greedy too in its own right.

No, the results are falsified because Swedes love getting buttfucked by fat nigger cocks.

Go move to Cuba then.

*at the top

What percentage of millionaires do you think do That? And do you think that most do it enough to offset the damage they do?

Someone fairly paying back to a society that allows them to be rich.

When was it applied to one country, and on the citiziens of that country alone? Once, and in an economic context it worked great

What damage to they do? Create jobs and develop the economy?

Abso-fucking-lutely.

If you want everyone to have things equal you will drag everyone down to a low level. You force a police state on your future generations that ensure they'll never own their own yards and will instead forever live in a state-controlled apartment slum, all because you fear failure from some inferiority complex.

Fairness is not socialism, and socialism is not the end result of prioritizing fairness.

Socialism requires a harsh climate caused by something other than people in the society, and a people with enough unity and ability to feel guilt, to shame anyone who doesn't put in their fair share of effort.

Also to answer your question, yes.

Depends on the system.

>nationalist
>one race
>social democracy with eugenics

There're long term projects that the free market doesn't invest in that can be good. Like space exploration etc. ...

Works well.

Is there no statistic that isn't some form of propaganda, that doesn't have an agenda behind it's information?

Socialism != welfare state. Check the flag. It's the social/national/state control of the means of production. Socialism is just nationalization of large industries. There's nothing about the state owning manufacturing plants, railways, banks, mines, etc that would lead to rewarding parasites, quite the opposite since the profit generated would decrease the amount of taxes the state would need to collect to fund it's functions.

>works well

except it doesn't

*meant a system with free markets but with a state that invests in projects like space exploration, fusion research etc.

Sure, any statistic which measures a quantitative phenomena, for example crime rates don't lie. But asking someone to quantify his "happiness" is horseshit.

>Depends on the system.
No it doesn't

>nationalist
>one race
That was Sweden until recently. But socialism breeds in the mind a form of complacency and cuckery, which is the cause of Sweden's downfall today.

>There're long term projects that the free market doesn't invest in that can be good. Like space exploration etc. ...
SpaceX anyone?

It worked well for the Nordic countries and still does for the racially homogeneous ones. And it would work alot better if it was only focused on the people in that country and advancing them forward. Not helping others.

>Socialism is just nationalization of large industries
That's a great idea if you want mass starvation. I'm sure the people in government will be these faultless superhumans who will of course not abuse of their power when they control all the fucking economy, right?

Kys, you basically want to become a slave.

You've got to be delusional if you think tycoons give out even close to what they get from society.

No you don't understand. Sweden has the most jews. (((Bonnier))) etc. ruined the country. Look at the other countries that have almost no jews...

>That was Sweden until recently
Not socialism on a national/ethnic basis, like I said you ABSOLUTELY got to limit it on your own countrymen, no exceptions.

Being alive entitles you to nothing.

Exclusively white countries have the highest level of happiness.

Look at the US goverment. They have actually done something big unlike SpaceX.

Gone to the moon. Or doesn't that fit with your confirmation bias?

Problem is that you think as an individual and not a race. If you think like an individual your race is going to lose and you're going to lose.

>Capitalism is just privatization of large industries
That's a great idea if you want mass starvation. I'm sure the people in power will be these faultless superhumans who will of course not abuse of their power when they control all the fucking economy, right?

Kys, you basically want to become a slave.

The government is much better suited to be in control of the economy than some guy who worked his way up there, or inherited his position from someone who did. The government guy is beholden to his constituency, Mr. Goldstein is beholden to his profit.

This.

National Socialism: the radical idea of white people taking care of their own instead of taking care of darkies.

Other than boarding resources? Influencing policy that helps them pay less money to and for there employees. The hypothetical benefits they could be giving their employees if only they didn't actively fight to not. Stuff like that. The money they could be spending to create a better product and service and higher quality of life and be juuuuust fine themselves but instead choose to give themselves giant bonuses because they can.

I understand they can do what they want, the argument is "It's there's to legally do what they wish, who are you to tell them what to do with what they earned" well, that's a low truth. The moral implications are there regardless. Not doing something you easily could that could help is the same thing as harming. It's become a game of "get more money for yourself" and that's straight up greed.

>believes in utopia that requires fundamental re-writing of human behavior that leads to the death of untold millions
>calls others delusional

>The government is much better suited to be in control of the economy than some guy who worked his way up there, or inherited his position from someone who did.
Economic calculation problem. Fuck off with your retarded planned economy fantasies.

Of course they do. They need a big strong authoritarian man to tell them what to do.

>thinks socialism is a utopia that requires fundamental re-writing of human behavior that leads to the death of untold millions
>doesn't think he's delusional

I think US-Americans just can't grasp this concept... respectively make a difference between communism and (nat.) socialism

The point is that there are some projects that can't be valued in the free market. Like space exploration.

There's value in going to Mars etc. but is there enough value for a private company to fund that? Most likely not. Is there value for a private company to fund pure Physics research? No, but there's value. Can companies save money by polluting the waters with lead? Yes but it leads to lower average IQs in kids...

Having a mixed economy with eugenics (with a relativly free market) that is 100% focused on race, only helping your own people, is the best.

Make a real argument against it if you disagree.

Sharing is voluntary

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>monopoly capitalism as a benchmark for "normal human behaviour"

the government is already giving loans to students that need them. how is that working out? 40% of people have stopped paying them off entirely. government is fucking shitty at investing, and when they fuck up it creates a giant bubble the tax payers get stuck holding the bag for.

unfortunately thanks to those retarded bank and automotive bailouts now the tax payers are responsible for private businesses too i guess so whatever im fine if the neetsocs do take over.

No system is perfect, but capitalism is the least murderous.

Just imagine for 1 sec. that the gouvernment isn't a goi-union but rather representatives of your nation/race

They're so imprinted on their political ideology that they're indoctrinated into as a child that it's as if it's a religion. They'll believe anything their preacher-politician tells them and they become nothing more than a willfully ignorant cow. Void of critical thought but full of arrogance and hate.

Because the exploiters and cheats are always from your own race. That is how they do it. To this day you don't believe it, that is how good they are at making you their bitch.

You are better off making collective agreements with strangers and those with which you share no culture or even reasons to be friends. That way everyone knows you are going to be strait right from the start, and no one will be expecting special treatment. You make your collectives by the skills each person offers.

Public funding != Socialism

Stop conflating the two things. When the government actually owns the means of production (e.g. Venezuela nationalizing the oil industry) it's socialism. The existence of NASA does not stop you from starting your own space company.

But why did the jews influence the swedes? Because the swedes grew complacent, out of the habit of not having to think for themselves, which is inherent in socialism. The kind of uniformity of thought which characterizes the swede is the product of socialism.

>Not socialism on a national/ethnic basis,
Yes it was, they even had a eugenics program until the 1960s.

I don't mind a bit of my tax money helping us going to the moon, I concede that point.

>Problem is that you think as an individual and not a race
No, freedom to self-associate is a cornerstone of liberalism. The problem is that you don't think of society as a group of individuals, but as a uniform bloc. That is the mentality of the slave or the serf.

>That's a great idea if you want mass starvation.
There has been no mass starvation in the capitalist countries for the past 100 years.

> I'm sure the people in power
Except they aren't in power you fucking retard, the CEO of McDonald's doesn't have any power of me.

You're a fucking retard.

>Other than boarding resources?
boarding?

>Influencing policy that helps them pay less money to and for there employees
Only because government intervenes in the economy.

I agree that in a socialist system, i.e where the government is involved in economic life, then corruption and lobbying is rife. Which is why government should have no say in economic policy.

Anyways, kys bernout.

Yeah because people are faultless and the government would never ever be against the people, right?

Jesus Christ you're a fucking retard aren't you?

Socialism. The radical idea of FORCED sharing.

Public funding is a form of socialism...

We can share a helicopter ride if you like.

No it's not, you illiterate retard.

No it isn't. That is completely retarded. You might as well say government=socialism.

Let me have all of your stuff, faggot.

If you don't give it up, then you go to jail.

Welcome to socialism, faggot moron

Perhaps I am, but I like to think that I'm not. I'm more indoctrinated by US-American media I'd say though and what I can say by observing your media is that you have a very hard time differentiating between communism and socialism, which I can understand because you were raised by a capitalistic system which told you that you beat the bad nazis in WW2, but nonetheless the whole story isn't as easy as your parents/school told you

The only parasites I've met are non-Swedes. And I care about my race and about improving my race. That's the problem here. You think as an individual, which is a very White thing to do btw. Problem is that non-Whites don't think like that. They work as a group and if Whites doesn't stick together we're going to get fucked.

>Implying this changes anything
>Being this fucking stupid
This is why natsocs are nothing more than LARPers

No. Know your history the jews came here long before that. Bonnier owns most of the private media.

You mean allows. Everybody wants to share. People that don't share are assholes. That's a thing you learn as a kid.

Socialism forces people to not force people to not share, like how they really want to.

The question is not whether the jews were there, it is whether the swedish people were sheep-like enough to succumb to their influence.

Socialism turns people into sheep.
>oh I'll just do as the government says
>oh I'll just think like the government wants me to
>after all they have my best interests in mind, right?
Kill yourself slavecuck.

I said I want a mixed economy in a racially homogeneous society. See

Perhaps you are what?

I wasn't saying "they" as in you. I was saying americans.

>I want what you have because I don't have it
Seems more like envy to me.

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>I want to be a slave in a totalitarian regime which will eventually turn on me.

You're using "mixed economy" to mean a capitalist market with regulation which is nearly every country on earth. That has nothing to do with socialism.

No you don't get it. The jews came to Sweden when it didn't have a welfare state at all. They control the media but don't have that much influence other than that.

Again I'm not a slave. I just care about my people. You only care about yourself and are thus going to be outmaneuved by the chinks that work together. Or are you a kike?

we have equal opportunity nigga

we don't need to rig that shit so other people can steal the profits of hard work

That's why you should have guns so that you can kill the politicians if they do that.

>(I am) so imprinted on their (my) political ideology that they're (I am) indoctrinated into as a child that it's as if it's a religion.
Maybe I took this too personal, but I heard this all to often, therefore I thought you were referring to me.

So fuck a society reliant on itself and for the betterment as it as a whole, everyman for himself?

>No you don't get it. The jews came to Sweden when it didn't have a welfare state at all.
No, you don't get it, faggot.

Why wasn't Sweden a beta country up until it became socialist? Because the mentality of the Swede was still independent. But when the Swede fell under socialism, he became content with giving away all of his responsibilities to the state. He became a slave. And then, anyone with control over the state could do as they pleased.

>Again I'm not a slave. I just care about my people.
You just care about gibs. You're a nigger.

> You only care about yourself
On the contrary, I'm a classical liberal because I care for my people and I think it is the best framework in which people can lead productive lives.

The government is supposed to be a representian of the people. As are unions.

So the people get no say so in the economy, just those that have the most money?

Exactly. Now who exactly restricts guns? Libertarians?

Are you beginning to see now or are you still blind?

But it's not sharing. Sharing is what Christians do when they do charity work for the homeless. Socialism is stealing to give to the government, who decides how and if they will use that money on programs.

>The government is supposed to be a representian of the people
Keyword being supposed to be.

>So the people get no say so in the economy
Sure they do. For instance, don't like McDonald's? Then don't buy their burger.

You literally have power of life or death over any corporation you want by taking your business elsewhere.

You replied to the wrong post.

But yeah. I wasn't talking about you.