Poland is not even close to be ruled by right-wing. It is not as based, as some of you would think

Poland is not even close to be ruled by right-wing. It is not as based, as some of you would think.

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The only real right win party on there is Korwin. PiS is like center-right.

>socialists of any kind
>anywhere close to right
Pis is more social than late commie governments, you can't go much more left than that.

>Pis is more social than late commie governments, you can't go much more left than that.
That's why I put them centre. They are right as values go.

Wtf is that flag

>another thread dealing with Polish self hate/self doubt
why, for fucks sake, why we cannot be proud of anything?

Have you been gone for a few days bruh?

define right wing

I do consider PiS cente/catcholic/socialist
But then again they keep loads of conservative values.

Also Right/Left is so moot term right now.

>They are right as values go.
They are Catholics as values go, with exception of not being suicidal and bringing rapefugees when church ask them to.
They are catholic national socialists, therefore left therefore cancer. But on the other hand they are the lesser evil, they will ruin economy but at least won't outright destroy our nation like swedes or germans.

it's not about your politicians it's about your people's general outlook, it's good yo

Not like PO/PSL was fucking our economy while bending to germany.

PiS is cancer, but lesser cancer than PO/PSL.

Also poor kurwin forever 4.76

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Ideas, based on pre French Revolution ones. PiS are just social-democrats who don't like muslims and homosexuals. Soviets didn't like them either.

that's what i said
>your people's general outlook
Our outlook is that we are kinda jaded and disillusioned. And generally young people won't take shit from anybody also political correctness doesn't really exist in poland.

You see it's kinda funny, when you have xenophobic society where there is no minorities it's actully getting true equality, we are not much different from each other and that's why no one get offended over silly shit like in the west, you can say pretty much everything as long you are not literal nazi.

Doesnt need to be right wing, just needs to stay polish. I saw the antiislam rally.

And look how typical left right steorotypes fail here.

Left likes LBGWTFBBQ and right hates them ?
Left likes GIBS and right hates them ?

This left/right division is just for lazy people.

This, people like simple divisions of good guys vs bad guys. Real world is much more complicated than that.

I am probably gona vote for PiS as long as they won't bend to EU and won't take rapefugees.

What if it is literal nazi? Also Paulina is a qt. You guys need to make more like her.

>What if it is literal nazi?
You will be considered retard that believe in philosphy that ruined europe for everyone and reason why people hate right wing. There are more civil ways of being nationalists without being murderous retard.
There is a lot of nationalists in poland, they all share disgust for nazis and commies.

PIS is nationalist socialist.

Korwin is idiot tier party for kuce.

I am not a strong PiS supporter, as they are too pro-Ukrainian and Russophobic, but it is the best option we have.

It isn't what I written at all.Read again. It is totally possible to be left-wing and don't like homos and negros.

>, they will ruin economy
How? Are you one of the kuce who masturbate to meme lord Korwin?

>they will ruin economy
But you have to give it to them that they made great efforts into shutting down tax evaders and thus increasing the state budget and halting debt.

You articulated it much better than I could because I'm not polish, but as an outsider looking in, I agree with everything you said, and it's why I like poland (it's why poland get's a lot of praise on Sup Forums in general) I think it's your countries long history of being fucked over by powerful forces that makes PC not a thing, when PC is what is killing western society. You're a good bunch of lads, who have every right to be jaded.

fuck this shit, see

PiS is a right wing party.
PiS hasn't implemented any socialist policies. Merely few elements of welfare state.

You still dont get it.
Left/Right division is just simplyfiying things.
Yeah I prefer bunch of homophobic catho bible thumpers to bunch of refuge loving berlin cooksuckers.

Both are bad, but once you get muslims in country you are fucked.

>I am not a strong PiS supporter, as they are too pro-Ukrainian and Russophobic, but it is the best option we have.
Believe it or not but i actually agree with that statement. But as a economist i can't consider them anything other than lesser evil.
Yeah that's actually true they fixed some shit, but their social program is awful, it's like 1 step in good direction but 2 steps backwards.
If they want higher income from taxes they should decrees income taxes. Our taxation system is far from optimum and laffer curve is in full force.

meh , as long as theshitskin don't come they can be commie for all I care.

>hasn´t implemented any socialist policies
>elements of welfare-state
Pick one

In what way it is right wing?

Somehow europeans think
Racist Lefties= Right

Dont bother those people are.. Gibs in form of 500+ (wellfare for having children) are pure socialism. And now they plan making "home+" for families. So yeah going full socialism.

On other side they removed (for some time) need to get permit to cut down a TREE on your property.

But idiots from oposition were outraged, protests and chit and they rollbacked.

PiS agreed on medical marijuana tho.

They are very wierd animal, cant categorize them in one way. Some stuff they do is pure socialims while they push some good projects like trees/medical marijuana.

500+ is welfare policy for poor people to have more babies.

poor people aren't the problem, they have babies anyway, they always had and they always were irresponsible, alcoholic or plain stupid.

The problem is that rich, intelligent and successful people don't have babies or have only one. 500+ won't encourage those people to have more babies. Thing that would encourage them to have babies would be tax reduction by say 20% for kid. Imagine - you have 5 kids then you won't pay a cent from income taxes. Rich people will start make babies because it would be super profitable for them, they would buy more goods and the economy would flourish. It would also encourage jobless pathologic reatrds to actually find job instead of living from poor social benefits, if even shitty job is paid well people would work.

500+ only increase alcoholism in pathological families and won't really help medium/ high income households.

also 500+ increased etatism

instead of making flat or progresive tax discount for families with children they prefered to give gibs and hire more ussles biurwa

also tax discount would work better for people that acctualy work and contribute since pathological families ... dont earn enough to feel discount

So much this. Thanks to it just like USA is going to be dominated by latinos and blacks, Poland will be dominated by Białystok rednecks.

>If they want higher income from taxes they should decrees income taxes. Our taxation system is far from optimum and laffer curve is in full force.
I know.

It's a utter shithole, don't come here, leave us alone
fuck off

>Implying poles leave other countries alone

Who cares? PiS is great.

Welfare state is not leftwing, it is a right wing idea. Bismarck made it to destroy the Socialist movement in Germany.

Middle class people will never have more children, never. It is just how things work.

Destroying socialism by using socialism
Bismarck was retard.
Without him the commies had starved long times ago

>PiS is great.
No it's not, but it's much better than PO.

Funny, poles don't have problem making babies outside poland. I still stand by my opinion.

>center-right
they are conservative left

meant for

Economically left, socially right.
I prefer to emphasize the social aspect more.

>they will ruin economy
yeah sure faggot
stat.gov.pl/en/

>.gov
Legit source of information

>let me post government statistics without any commentary or analysis, that will solve my argument
>what are long therm effects
Yeah, fuck off.