Mfw atheist think thoughts come and go from nowhere/nothing in life for no reason

>mfw atheist think thoughts come and go from nowhere/nothing in life for no reason
>mfw atheist think life became life and animate for no reason/from nowhere
>mfw atheist believe in "nothing"
>mfw atheist can't rationalize thoughts are energy and can not be created or destroyed
>mfw atheist STILL don't understand God
Take the theist pill user

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>inb4 atheist think thoughts are dependant on brains
But then how did a brains develope thought?

A book is information in a written format. A great example of a GOOD book would be the Bible.

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>no arguments or anything that will lead to actual discussion
typical atheist

>today he will remind them

arguing with retards isn't productive, it just upsets them.

>everyday He will remind them
>atheist will never escape this hell

Your right, talking with you is pointless.

These are not things an atheist does and id argue that on average atheists know more about religion than your average religious person.

>Inb4 if we came from apes why do we still have apes?

The only reason religion exists ia because some people need to believe in some super nice bonus after they die to be decent. It's like children believing santa will bring them gifts if they are nice and if it wasn't for santa they would just go spaz out. Same with religious people.

God IS real. God is by definition INFINITE AND ETERNAL. IF THERE IS INFINITE AND ETERNITY THERE IS GOD.

t.science

>>Inb4 if we came from apes why do we still have apes
No one is arguing this.

How you define something matters not if your definition is false or open to interpretation.

>on average atheists know more about religion than your average religious person.
Wrong, and challenge accepted.

I'll bite. Seems legit for once. Energy can not be created or destroyed BUT it can change forms. Thus any cosmology which demands the survival of an ego based on thought is unlikely. I can't use science to rule out the more eastern and animistic traditions because they account for ego death, but western religions attempt to preserve the ego in some superstitious and idealistic afterlife. There is no evidence for this in the sciences as the energy constituting the ego goes through radical transformations throughout life and after death.

You are the one trying to give God a new deffinition. God is infinite, God is eternal, god is omnipresent. All of these concepts are proven within science.

>t.Retard
ftfy

You might be more knowledgeable in christianity but id say there isnt a barrier between an atheist reading quran or something about religious of the past, as there is a barrier between a religious person and other religions.
And further more, if you can cite at least 5 quotes from the bible, that are not 10 commandments, and sometimes even simply quoting 10 commandments correctly puts you probably in the top 10% of knowledge of the bible when it comes to average religious people. Most people say im x or im y, but they dont even follow the principles of x. And then when x has 2 principles, they pick and choose which they prefer.
If god is real, then people who do what i said above are making a mockery of him, under his name.

Im not, you just defined god yourself, infinite, eternal, omnipresent. Within our universe there are plenty of such things.

It is simple, in order for this energy to come into existence it must be eternal. Something eternal, like energy, has no creation nor destruction. There is never a point it doesn't exist.

It is my belief the universe itself is an element that makes up an eternal infinite conscious otherwise it(life) couldn't be, life couldn't exist. otherwise this consciousness came from nothing.

Energy doesn't actually go anywhere, it may change form but that doesn't mean it can only exist in a moment for certain reason, let alone thought. If there is a thought energy, it is an eternal energy that predates life otherwise life couldn't exist at all.

Any religion that sees its members as sheep is repressive

>you just defined god yourself
This is how God has ALWAYS been defined.

Daily reminder that atheism is the worship of oneself; it is the religion of selfishness, hedonism, and arrogance.

People ARE sheep.

Wow sure sure showed him!

Yes, and im saying that the definition is pathetic when its open to interpretation. I tried to make that clear by saying "there are many such things within our universe" but apparently you dont even read the full sentence.
This is false

>burger education

>definition is pathetic
Why? Because you can't comprehend an all powerful?
If there is infinite, if there is eternity, there is God.
I don't think you understand infinite means limitless.

I love to quote Jesus around Christians just to mess with them. I'll say something like "I can't believe you would do that, or have you forgotten about Matthew 7:1 ?"

You are ALWAYS judged 24/7.
The quote implied to realize your opponent isn't the only one facing judgement. Nothing about it saying you can NOT criticize someone for their degeneracy. NOTHING about implied you can not reject and be disgusted by it.

I knew they only taught you shit in school but this is just ridiculous.

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I assure you friend that i can comprehend things your whole lineage wont be able to if you were in charge of educating them.
Infinity is a word you understand on such a weak level that you maybe should avoid using it.

But onto the topic, i comprehend all there is to the omni story however what i am aiming at is that there are so many things within our universe that are as such to the point where i can claim that a quark is god or that the soup of mater that was the universe way back is god as well.
Even greek philosophers were incredibly diverse as to what could possibly happen after death and incredibly diverse in their opinion of whats within the cosmos on a metaphysical level.

Your definition for god can be applied to too many things and too many idiots i get into arguments with tell me "o well for me god is just energy man" okay so what now? Do you follow the bible? What the fuck are you even doing.

Thats just your interpretation

It really is though.

Why do you think atheist have the most depression/suicide/ect per capita?

has anyone else gone from deist to atheist back to deism? i have and was wondering if i'm a small percentage on here.

i feel like deists are sheep that can't think critically but atheists are apathetic and can't see beyond their own arrogance. double back deists have gone through both and see why deism was a thing in the first place.

but for a religious culture to work without atheism forming and ruining it i think people should stop introducing it to children, so as to not feel like you're being brainwashed in a cult. and instead teach the reasoning behind it to adults who are able to think for themselves

>Infinity is a word you understand on such a weak level that you maybe should avoid using it.
No, that would be YOU.
Infinite LITERALLY means WITHOUT LIMIT.
It is not a number, its a CONCEPT.

Because if you realize that there is no afterlife, nobody judging you and nobody saving you if you need help, you see that life means jackshit. Thats pretty depressing imo.

Listen man i have a headache and you are going to have to put in a little bit more than 5 seconds of effort, around 300 seconds would make more sense, since you are really slow.
Letting kids find their own path is what im always for. I personally cannot get back into deism because its a matter of belief and i dont believe it. I dont see the use of religion in my life to be honest, outside of the "feeling" part which i will never be able to comprehend.

in·fi·nite
[ˈinfənət]
ADJECTIVE

limitless or endless in space, extent, or size; impossible to measure or calculate:
"the infinite mercy of God" · "the infinite number of stars in the universe"
synonyms: boundless · unbounded · unlimited · limitless · never-ending · interminable · immeasurable · fathomless · imponderable · extensive · vast · immense · great · huge · enormous · countless · uncountable · inestimable · innumerable · numberless · immeasurable · incalculable · untold · myriad
antonyms: limited · small · limited
very great in amount or degree:
"he bathed the wound with infinite care"
mathematics
greater than any assignable quantity or countable number.
mathematics
(of a series) able to be continued indefinitely.
grammar
another term for nonfinite.

NOUN

(the infinite)
a space or quantity that is infinite.

Then you are actually an atheist and are actually advocating for atheism. Congrats. Are you sure your low IQ isn't classified as a disability? You're surely liable for much gibs.

The funniest thing about talking with atheists is that they are literally trying to explain why they themselves do not exist. In their hearts they know a God of some nature must exist, even if they just acknowledge a sense of oneness with the universe itself, but they use the label of atheism as a defiance against mainstream religions.

I love how amerifags always think that their religion is the only one. Buddhists don't believe in a god and believe in nothing and still have a concept of something infinite. Just makes you see how closeminded those burgers are.

>believe in nothing
Then they are flawed because "nothing" has never been observed in the universe like eternal or infinite has.

Again 5 second effort of your pathetic brain. If there is a god why didnt he give you a brain or the desire to do something that doesnt require it.

Again i will try to state what ive stated 5 times so far.
Your definition of god, that may or may not be based on definitions of other words, is so vast and unspecific that when someone says god, quite frankly i dont even know what they mean any more. Energy, spirit, sky person, all of the above, pairs of the above?
Even greek philosophers were incredibly diverse as to what could possibly happen after death and incredibly diverse in their opinion of whats within the cosmos on a metaphysical level.
>The funniest thing about talking with atheists is that they are literally trying to explain why they themselves do not exist.

There isnt a need for god in order for existence to take place.

>In their hearts they know a God of some nature must exist
the bullshit theists tell themselves

I was raised in a Christian household and called myself atheist when I moved out after high school. After about 10 years of self reflection I realized that the concept of atheism as totally ridiculous. Either God exists, or the universe is eternal. One of those must be true or else nothing could exists to even have this conversation.

Again, you come back misunderstand the word "infinite"
Infinite is LIMITLESS.
If there is NO LIMIT there is GOD otherwise there would BE A LIMIT.

Addendum: if the universe is eternal, than the totality of the universe itself must be God.

i'm not an atheist. i believe in a higher power, a puppeteer controlling everything. i don't think the universe is purely cold hard mathematics at play

This may or may not be false depending on how you perceive it. For the time being i think humans should avoid thinking of whats outside of our universe because that is unfathomable.
Does that mean that this god entity only exists within this universe? What about the laws of physics?
Just because time is infinite does not mean that oceans will suddenly start shooting water upwards by themselves.

>Just because time is infinite
Time is NOT the only thing that is infinite.

>Does that mean that this god entity only exists within this universe?
God IS the universe/space/all matter and energy. Nothing in the book says god created space, it says he created the world, the stars, water.

Just how can you make such an assumption? Those are two separate kind of things. I can write down that my fucking dick is infinite and if the universe has no limit then your assumption is true for my dick too just because it is said in a book.

Book is open to interpretation and cannot be used as evidence for anything.

I know that time isnt the only thing, but in my example time was the only factor i wanted to include.
You still are not arguing the laws of physics part. When it comes to laws of the universe, as we know them currently, there is a higher chance that there is a race of humanoid aliens that can teleport and go faster rather than there being a god.

3d printing a planet is more realistic than there being a god.
If i were to tell you that i can look at the dna grow, you would probably think of me as some sort of a superior being, but the fact is that since it does not break any laws of physics, it is bound to happen. And indeed there is footage of dna growing.
But once you start breaking laws of physics is where things get flimsy.
So far the argument of god is, well he exists so he exists. Which is a fair explanation of such a being but it is so highly unlikely that a more likely scenario is aliens 3d printing planets and teleporting.

Nice bait, I'll take it.

>mfw atheist think thoughts come and go from nowhere/nothing in life for no reason
Reason =/= intent. Life came to be because of clear reasons, but that doesn't mean there was intent behind it.

>mfw atheist think life became life and animate for no reason/from nowhere
Baiting with the "no reason again". There is a reason "living" things are different from rocks, doesn't mean there was something that intended it to be so or that it magically had a son called jesus.

>mfw atheist can't rationalize thoughts are energy and can not be created or destroyed
So then how did that energy appear? Was that created? Because then the thoughts would be created by proxy. This line of reasoning doesn't really follow.

Studies have been done that prove atheists subconsciously believe.

>as we know them currently
Key fucking word here.
Weird shit happens all the time in the world we can't explain. Your understanding of water being affected by gravity comes from your understanding of magnetism, which we know jack shit about honestly.

>Book is open to interpretation and cannot be used as evidence for anything.
Ok sure, but it definitively does not mention universe/space or ANYTHING like that but it mentions he created the shit floating around inside it like planets, stars, water. This you can read for yourself.

My theory(based that thought is real, based that eternity is observed, based that infinity is observed, based that omnipresence(matter/energy all around us) is observed) is God is the universal conscious that organized itself, energy/matter, that life was able to fractal off of(but now limited in thoughts) and its knowledge is infinite/eternal.

>So then how did that energy appear? Was that created?
It is eternal.

>Studies have been done that prove atheists subconsciously believe.
((citation needed))

hard mode: your pastor isn't a source.

>footage of dna growing
>thinks anything is alone in this universe
>doesn't know what omnipresent/potency is

>God IS the universe/space/all matter and energy
Then why not just call it 'the universe' or 'the cosmos' or something. To my understanding, typically Christians imagine God as an immaterial, ultra-powerful consciousness separate from the universe.

>Either God exists, or the universe is eternal.
This looks like a false dichotomy to me. You need to review the assumptions your making and question whether there could be other possibilities. I'll point out a couple that I can think of.

1. God created the universe to appear eternal, although it still had a beginning.
2. God exists, but the eternal universe exists independently of God.

Not this thread again. I hope the mods permaban you.

Energy for productive things isn't eternal because of entropy. The same amount of energy might be present, or not, but the amount of free energy you'd need to have for thoughts if you define those as energy isn't stable.

As far as crazy things that happen in science, believe it or not, no matter how obscene the finding might be it actually means that the science is even more and more correct.

And yes the book doesnt say anything that most christians like to debate about, so what are you doing?

Anyway this headache is making it too hard for me to even walk so im going to lay down.
There is nothing wrong with religion but dont say you know something, say you believe in it. To claim knowledge based on 1 book that nobody agrees on is incredibly foolish. Best of luck.

If God is real then how come he made u a fag?

>Christians imagine God as an immaterial, ultra-powerful consciousness separate from the universe.
Most would be wrong and haven't read the scripture.
It mentions God creating planets, stars,. water, ect. Nothing about a "universe" as we know it.
God=all energy aka the universe.

Hey, you the guy from yesterday that I tried to be friends with? Same filename, I would assume so. Why didn't you respond or send me an email dude?

I hope you know the ban system is easily evaded and flawed and thus mods have no real power only attempts at damage control.

>mfw atheist can't rationalize thoughts are energy and can not be created or destroyed
The energy for the thoughts comes from food just like the energy for movement and everything else in the body.

>The energy for the thoughts comes from food just like the energy for movement and everything else in the body.
You're going to play a very long game of what came first life or basic thought.
If it doesn't have basic thought(locomotion, ect) how can it be life?
The drama came before the play, user. Its how we are able to even write a dramatic play.

>or that it magically had a son called jesus.

See>Take the theist pill user

OP didn't mention Christianity, just theism in general. You're just mad at Christianity and can't get a grip with yourself because you know you're a condemned sinner. Have a Christ pill.

Matthew 5:11-12
11 - Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
12 - Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Matthew 10:22
22 - You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

You can as mad and bitter about Christianity as you want, but you'll never escape it. The entirety of Earth's major events revolve around Him.

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Even if all this proved some God it doesn't prove that Christianity and ask other human religions are just lies.

They've done actual testing on this. Atheists have more religious knowledge than any other group. The only one that even came close was the Jews and Mormons.

pewforum.org/2010/09/28/u-s-religious-knowledge-survey/

It proves there is absolute good, judgement, and evil as we ourselves have them. We do not get these concepts from no where.

>wow look the average atheist is a """jack of all trades""" and a specialist at nothing

>why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends?
God is already your best friend user.

If energy doesn't not have a creation or destruction by lay it is eternal by definition.
You thinking specific forms of energy being infinite, it changes form but not destroyed or created.

well that pic you posted does suggest that atheists know more about Christianity than most Christians...

Theism is bluepill - you will be controlled.

Theists argue this all the time my friend

Human thought isn't as complex as you'd like to believe. Everything we do and think is a product of our biology, whether influenced directly or by our society as a whole. Just because you're a contrarian 4channer doesn't mean your thoughts aren't just copied from somewhere else.

White Christians(evangelicals, Mormons are far more intimate with the bible than the average atheist.

Just because niggers and spics can't and dont read doesn't mean the atheist is more familiar with the bible than the average respectable Christians.

Good for you. Am I arguing it? Has anyone in the thread argued it? No? Then sit down.

Except one form because of entropy doesn't allow for things as complicated as thoughts.

>Everything we do and think is a product of our biology
Any from whence did this product originate in biology?
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>magically had a son called jezus
Or a prophet named muhammad, it doesn't matter. If there is such a thing as an omnipotent diety worthy of worship in our fleeting lives then claiming to be the sole proprietor of its word is so egocentric I'm inclined to discard all abrahamic religions based on that.

NOTHING in your body is unique to the universe, everything you are has already existed.
Again, were did this first basic thought spring from? If life(dna/rna/ect ect) didn't have thought in the beginning how is it animate compared to the inanimate? Where did this animate spark come from?
And even further with this, what pushed for these simplistic thing to keep becoming more and more aware until they are where we humans are now? Did that too spring from nothing?

The answer?
It always was there, it was eternal.

a small minority of Christians are more knowledgeable about Christianity than your average Atheist. Atheist are still, on average, more knowledgeable on the subject of Christianity than the average Christian.

you wouldn't believe how many Christians don't realize pic related is the difference between the Abrahamic religions

T.Atheist

Than go to a nigger church and prove how much you know about Christianity to them. Catholicucks are more your style to debate with because they are basically atheist already.

You're never going to win against a Mormon or white evangelical, people that actually read the bible, let alone against me in this thread.
LEt me spell it out for you.
I know the Bible and God better than you.

I believe that this statement I made earlier in the thread applies to my stance on further conversations with you:
>arguing with retards isn't productive, it just upsets them

I think you need some self awareness. Go look in a mirror and think about your sins.

>thinks I haven't personally read and annotated the entire old and new testament.

I think I know more about your religion than you ever will. Took a pic of a verse from by book that I think you should consider.

criticize=/=judge

Woah, I never thought of it like that.

>doesn't even know what atheism is
All atheism is is lack of a belief in god. None of what you described is inherently atheistic and all of it is just projection. Kys, moron.

Natural selection doesn't "think". DNA doesn't have the capacity for thought. It's just a biological process with the sole purpose of recreating itself, with external factors shaping it.

The thing with life and non-living things is that it's a simple matter of complexity. A human being isn't made out of fundamentally different matter than a rock, but we are made up from more complex molecules and vast systems of bacteria and viri working in tandem to allow for an object/being as complex as us as opposed to a rock, which is just a collection of silica nad other stuff.

The real question about life isn't who created it, it's about when something becomes intelligent enough that it's immoral to consider it as anything else.

Atheism is when you have no faith in a higher power, ie believe in "nothing" as this is ultimately were things sprung from, including life. Quite a arrogant position to make If you ask me.

I see you understand atheists as well as you understand Muslims. Why don't you give me your analysis on blacks too and go 0 for 3?

are you the same faggot that kept spamming pic related image with bullshit arguments?