Raising the tax rates on childless people

Childless people are benefiting from the governmental system while not putting a fair contribution into it. They are evaporating the pensions and Social Security by not having children which would perpetuate society and pay taxes.

Fewer kids = Fewer future tax payers

By not having the kids, you need to pay more in tax to atone for the taxes your children would have paid.

>b-but childless people already do pay more in taxes
It is no where near the amount needed to offset the deficiency they leave by not having children.

What I propose is taxing the incomes of childless people at a rate which is 15% higher. For each child you have, that amount goes down by 1/3. After having 3 children, you will not be paying the additional tax. This would incentivize people, especially those who are upper middle class (smarter people), to have more children. Childless people under the age of 25 would be exempt from paying this tax in order for them to have time to find a suitable partner to reproduce with and save up enough money to rear the children.

The additional revenue generated from the tax will be used to promote and subsidize child births. For example, mothers will receive additional aid from the government for every child they have. Russia did something similar to this and saw an immense gain in births.

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>WAHHHHH PEOPLE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT SNOT NOSED BRATS AND IT REALLY IRKS ME WWWAAAAHHHH

Fuck off kid if anything we should charge people with large families more since they rely on the tax system so much (Dole dossers)

This seems legit. However not everyone is born equal. I need the government to provide me with prime White pussy or I'll only be able to fuck the lowest tier whores and infertile fatties. For the sake of diversity you should pay for me to have 3+ children with a top grade White woman. I think everyone can agree with this right?

In other words, your tiny brain can't formulate a policy-oriented rebuttal. Thanks for the satisfaction of winning ;)

OP your argument aligns totally with the black is white, bad is good, war is peace pimps
Childless people are paying for those with children
Childless people do NOT put pressure on schools, hospitals, welfare, etc

Get out of here commie scum. It's already due to the (((rules))) you made that whites are having fewer kids. You made your bed, now lie in it.

I'm not giving the government another tax slave that they can exploit.

>By not having the kids, you need to pay more in tax to atone for the taxes your children would have paid.

People without children do pay more tax. Did you even bother looking before making this post?

>However not everyone is born equal.
You do realize that many geniuses have been born from lower class households that would be considered inferior, right? Isaac Newton is a prime example. Nonetheless, I support monolithic societies, so there wouldn't be non-whites in my nation to begin with.

>Need money to have a child
>Can't save up to have child because childless taxes

Wut?

>give tax benefits to people with kids
>Shaniqua and Maria proceed to each have 10 kids while white people still have the same attitude about kids and can afford the extra tax penalty
>white race dies out even faster
Thanks OP

Then they'd import one from overseas to take their place

Do you want a baby boom that makes you want to vomit?

Because that is how you get a baby boom that makes you want to vomit.

Benefits for people with kids over people without them have never stopped whites from remaining childless. But they have succeeded in doubling the size of your average African/Muslim family.

Aww shieett a-non, yall gon gimme a tax break nah cause I'z be havin' 15 keeds? god bless ya suh I can finally affowd to buy my lil niglets dem new jordans theyz been wantin'.

>forced reproduction

I like it honestly, but only for white people. It gives me an awkward autist angle I could work instead of having to try to understand something completely alient o me like romance. I can jsut be like,

>Hey you listen her little cutie three point one four, i really don't want to have to pay the taxes so will you reproduce and cohabitate with me? Rent is 1200/mo.

why bother when you got just import labour

Childless people are paying more than anyone else by almost an order of magnitude. People with children are getting more free gibs than anyone else on top of contributing fuckall.
Checkmate, hitler.

Read the entire post before making comments, you illiterate, dumb fuck. Your mother should have swallowed her dad's seed instead of having it in her cunt.

I am a nationalist, not just a Marxist. There wouldn't be non-whites in my ideal society.

I already live within a White country. Naturally my blood line has to be integrated into the nation. I don't mind if my children are only half-black. What I really need is for my superior Y chromosome to be passed down and for my sons and grandsons to also be given prime White pussy so that my lineage can spread allowing this White country to become greater that it ever knew it could be.
Unfortunately my face is black so I can't find a quality partner on my own. This is why the government should give me one. Not only would it help me but it would also bring the country to a more diverse future where great people are just average citizens like Jamaican sprinters.

i keep seeing this fucking meme which is probably being shilled by a few fucktards in some shit european country but let me CLARIFY IF YOU TAX ME
>ME
A WHITE 27 YEAR OLD MALE WHO IS ACTIVELY SEEKING A FEMALE TO MATE WITH DESPITE LIVING IN A SHIT APARTMENT I CAN BARELY AFFORD, WORKING A SHIT JOB I HATE, THATS SO FUCKING FAR FROM MY SHIT APARTMENT SOME DAYS I WORRY IF ILL HAVE THE FUEL TO GO WORK
IF YOU TAX ME MORE I WILL ACTUALLY GO OUT AND JUST START KILLING PEOPLE

give me childfare instead- assign me a wifeslave to bear my children and I'll pump em out for you

>Implying that they could control their migrants.

Fair question. I believe that homogeneous societies are the most prosperous. and by importing immigrants, you are threatening the security of the nation. Would you aspire to have someone with a radical, perverse ideology infest your nation and implode the state? I wouldn't.

Nice source.

>hold off on kids while trying to save money
>lose money for not having kids

great plan OP fuck off you retard

So in the bigger picture, you wan't to tax yourself 15% more because no girl wants you?

>Childless people are benefiting from the governmental system

OP, how retarded are u... like : for real ...

u're obviously a leftist, cuz otherwise u cant be that supid ... seriously.

This already happens. How does nobody in this thread not know anything about the Child Tax Credit??? It's like I'm among a bunch of underage who have never filed a tax return in their life.

taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-child-tax-credit-ctc

>read muh post
>flag

I did. And it's still stupid as fuck.

this.

OP must beleftoscum in disguise, otherwise his lefel of retardiation is not explainable.

Why not just lower taxes and pay white people to have children?
You know, like Hitler did

>paying taxes

I'd pay this if it boosted white birth rates.

t. sterile

time to take a bit of the ceaucescu and DUP pill, and stop enabling roasties and faggots.

>WAHHHHH PEOPLE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT SNOT NOSED BRATS AND IT REALLY IRKS ME WWWAAAAHHHH

Fuck off kid if anything we should charge people with large families more since they rely on the tax system so much (Dole dossers).

Stop watching benefits street and think for yourself, any coincidence all the families were all white british on there?

while every other program about sex on channel 4/channel 5 is BMWF? see naked attraction for proof.

>Childless people are benefiting from the governmental system while not putting a fair contribution into it
When you say shit like this you have to pull th e numbers up. I give X, the gov. gives me Y. How much X-Y is, etc.
Now you preferred to pull it out of your ass.

>when a fat american has such a tiny brain that he can't read more than a few sentences because his brain gets sleepy
>when you try to use an ad hominen but it backfires as someone who can't get laid would be most averse to this
Sucks being a dummy ;P

Nice rebuttal

Ban abortion if you want to see population growth, how fucking hard is it to get right?

That only helps the nigger/mixed populations. Well, mostly mudslime in 2017 I guess.

This will result in unforeseen consequences and exploitation of the system. Not only that it would be near impossible to enforce. Better policy would be after reaching retirement age and being married to the same person legal citizen and having x amount of kids. One should be allowed to receive a major boost to social security payout and some gurantee that their children will receive federal assistance for higher education and access to reduced cost medical care and whose those children retain that benefit so long as they also stay with one partner and have x amount of children. Getting benefits without investment is our policy today and look at where it's gotten us.

Today's solution is just importing children and fertile breeders who often benefit without any sacrifice. Where as first generation immigrants from the early 20th century had to endure and sacrifice for nothing in return and are giving all their sacrifice to import children who have no ties to this nation.

>retarded childness self-hating shitskinned pajeet hides behind Nazi flag

i read it. your idea is completely bumfuck retarded, average age of a mother in the US is 26 so say goodbye to half of all children when their parents are taxed out the ass. you're literally 12 years old and your argument sucks dog dick.

>Why not just lower taxes and pay white people to have children?
You lack the intellectually capacity to fathom what I proposed. We still need taxes to pay for for the kids. Taxes need to be augmented to subsidize this.

Poland essentially barred abortions with the exception of rape and incest. It has one of the lowest birth rates in Europe as well.

Those groups doesn't even exceed 5% in most european countries

Polish women go to neighbour countries to get abortions and there are about 100,000 illegal abortion in Poland each year

Okay, great. That's a very effective way to increment the birth rate them, you dunce.

(((you)))

*then

>more people is a good thing

No you stupid cunt. Having all these useless fucks around is what got us into this mess. I don't know where people get this idea that population size doesn't ultimately harm a nation once it becomes too large.

More people = more taxes and less of everything else which pinko faggots like you don't mind because you're genetic lineage is that of slaves.

Please report to your nearest gulag for extracurricular physical activities. Have a nice day.

Neck yourself you commie fuck. Seriously.

Obviously other countries need to follow through otherwise with all this free movement shit it's not going to work.

>Commie flag
>Raise taxes

Checks out.

How about.. just lower taxes and give even more tax breaks to families that have kids up to 3 and shut up.

A married couple gets $8100 in tax breaks for having a child.

>peoples incentive to have kids will only be gibs
>people who are only 25 need to pay more in taxes
We should have incentives to offset the cost of children, but this shit is just dumb.

1. Poor people would end up having a fuck ton of children for the extra govt aid, while rich people who can afford to say "meh", will maybe get 1 or 2, as they normally would. Have fun with your gopnik generation.

2. It's directly discriminatory against unattractive people. Not just fast people, but legitimately unattractive people, which means mostly men. Women can still go out of fuck strangers and get pregnant.

3. 3 children per family until when? At one point or another, having 3 kids will be unnecessary, and when you repeal the policy, you'll have smaller generations following the parents, meaning the future elderly will become a large burden, both in terms of keeping the youth in low income jobs, but also when they retire and need support.

Your central planning, in spite of its good intentions, will lead to a fucking disaster. Like any socialist policy, it's deeply rooted in bitter hatred for wealth not being used for what you see as the "greater good".

Yes what an excellent idea let's get people into more crippling debt by buying 3 bedroom houses when they could only afford 2 to begin with, but hey what's ANOTHER remortgage eh?

What's that another car because you came to the realisation that your going to have to ferry around another mouth to feed for a decade and a half? sure just approach the bank, OH WAIT you remortgaged your house to buy that bigger house haha no can do buddy but maybe steve the local loan shark can help you???

Honestly kid your policy sucks just how much is the government going to subsidize 3 kids a bigger house (up to 5 bedrooms) a people carrier AND standard education for 3 kids, there's a reason poor poeple have more kids and it's that they fuck like rabbits the upper middle class that have more than 2 kids I can count on one hand in my town and I know a fair few of them on a first name basis.

Plus I don't want the state to dictate to me how many kids I have to have to be a "reproductive" member of society honestly what happens when poor fucks have 4 or more kids you going to give them more gibs? try explaining where 10% of the countries revenue is going at PMQ's.

and citing Russia as a basis for thhis makes it worse not better the most corrupt european neighbour couldn't possibly be lying about statistics that would be immoral.

Industrialization was a mistake.

>real communism has never been tried
>here's a new idea i just came up with that we have absolutely no reason to believe will work
gosh why does it keep happening?

>Childless people are benefiting from the governmental system while not putting a fair contribution into it
You can't expect contribution if the other party is not willing to cooperate. Men on welfare or any low ranking man has no chance to get a partner so you can't demand extra taxes from them.

>I am a nationalist, not just a Marxist. There wouldn't be non-whites in my ideal society.

>not just a Marxist. There wouldn't be non-whites in my ideal society.

>not just a Marxist. wouldn't be non-whites in my ideal society.

>Marxist. There wouldn't be non-whites in my ideal society.

Jesus christ kid I...I didn't know you were this fucking retarded I-I'm sorry I blew you the fuck out man.

>while not putting a fair contribution into it
bullshit. my taxes pay for all the schools around me that i'm not using
make churches pay fucking taxes because they are abusing the system to grab up land and pay no taxes on it
joel osteen's 10.6 million dollar mansion is registered as a fucking church so he can shit out of taxes like a nigger

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Lots of fucking Niggers to take care of though.

Those Niggers aren't cheap either.

Prisons, Special-Ed, Food Subsidies, Rent Subsidies.

Maybe...if you got rid of the Niggers...

You wouldn't need any more taxes?
?

STOP RAISING FUCKING TAXES!
Jesus christ all this forced association leads to: Tax that group more, NO! Tax THAT group more.. God damn nazi

your idea is right.

but just to be clear: only childless women should be taxed.

working childless men are either so because they are too occupied doing ground-breaking stuff (tesla, nietzsche, hitler etc.), or because they are the of the lower genetic stock that shouldnt reproduce anyway.

childless women are so because they are either occupied doing mindless office work which they confuse with having a "career", or because they have ridden the cock carousel and have too high expectations.

in either case, this tax can therefore only reasonably be imposed on women.

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The day I start getting taxed for not participating in a system which society itself broke, is the day I will regularly go around vandalizing public property beyond the value of my taxes.

This. Men on average pay more into the state than they recieve from it anyway so the whole "they aren't supplying enough tax money" doesn't work even if they aren't having children.

>b-but childless people already do pay more in taxes
It is no where near the amount needed to offset the deficiency they leave by not having children.

The white people being outbreed meme is stupid.
You hate the shitskins for having 5 kids and being on welfare, and you want to counter it by having 6 kids on welfare.
You don't need to outbreed who is not within your borthers, push the shitskins out

We hate it because it replaces us.

(((you)))

>working childless men are either so because they are too occupied doing ground-breaking stuff (tesla, nietzsche, hitler etc.), or because they are the of the lower genetic stock that shouldnt reproduce anyway.

Er, no lad let me explain something to you, not everyone can get a high paying job, like literally if everyone who graduated now got their "dream job" there would be chaos there would be firings on a mass scale. Raising a kid is VERY taxing mentally and physically as well as financially what happens is when you make a baby your actually making things WAY worse for yourself in the short medium and long run, and that's the best case scenario, ever heard of a little thing called divorce? that magic word that makes not only 50% of your property dissapear but a large percentage of your earnings go to your dindu wife.

Maybe in 200 years this mess will all be over the 3rd wave feminism will be gone and women will trust men like they once did, but without the marriage tax break and the sky high divorce rates I ain't having kids for the foreseeable future.

So what you're saying is you're a LARPing faggot not actually dealing in reality and we should all sage and ignore your shit thread?

>rural England
you may as well have listed real estate prices above the arctic circle which is another place that no one wants to live
low real estate prices in a shit area is nothing new

OP is a fag that thinks more government can fix the problem of too much government... o wait, your a commie of course you wont understand. Try talking to working class fathers and mothers. Once that don't want to rely on the government cheese then come back.

>Raising a kid is VERY taxing mentally and physically as well as financially what happens is when you make a baby your actually making things WAY worse for yourself in the short medium and long run, and that's the best case scenario, ever heard of a little thing called divorce?

what does this have to do with anything? letting childless women pay an additional +20% to the tax sets all the right incentives:
a) it disincentivizes women from working and losing her feminity by effectively reducing her income
b) it sets the right incentive for husband/wife relationship for the wife to stay at home and the husband to work, unless the wife earns significantly more
c) it increases the revenue for the state without any negative impact

listen, i cant stress the last one point enough. this is one of the very few taxes that would have literally ZERO NEGATIVE EFFECTS on the families, the economy and society as a whole, but only positive effects.

>it disincentivizes women from working
dead on arrival
take your little list and write it out on notebook paper
then take that paper and roll it in a tight, long roll
then stick it up your dumb ass

women want equality so they can work shit jobs like everyone else and there will always be those that get accidentally pregnant and have to drop out and be femNEET with dumb children

>women want equality so they can work shit jobs like everyone else

if women want to work instead of making babies thats fine. just make sure they pay for it.
otherwise you end up with high iq women having 0.8 kids but a career, and low iq women having 2.5+ kids.

i want more smart children. you dont.

I get why you say that but we should first sort out the people that usually have lots of children; those that live off benefits and don't look after them. Basically criminal factories.

>just make sure they pay for it
i'm not paying anymore fucking taxes, faggot, so deal with it
both beethoven and issac newton were born to retards
i'm fine with that

Why not just tax the wealthy and large corporations at a rate which is 15% higher?

Make no sense to tax the middle class more. They are the ones that buy everything and keep the economy booming along.

Sorry. Stupid idea.

The camera is doing her no favours. Her gunt is otherwordly disgusting.

This would only work in a 100% white nation, otherwise you'll have single whites paying for the children of minorities and racemixers. Counterproductive.

I'd really like to have a family and children.
But, you reap what you sow.

First, you let the degeneracy flourish, you glorify random sex and licentiousness, you ruin traditional values of women and family. Then, you change the law so that whatever happens in marriage, it's my fault, you take away my children and money.

So I take my time, play it safe and work on myself, learn to be responsible and try to find a woman that is not corrupted by your system. So you keep taxing me, sometimes indirectly, i.e. by giving other people tax credits. So I postpone my marriage further because I want to be able to provide for my family.

And then you come and say you will tax me even more, simply because you taxed me too much and I refuse to breed offspring into this degenerate world you have created.

You communists should be sent to fucking Mars.

Feminism destroyed marriage and now you want to tax the childless people?

Are you a fucking dumbass or are you a fucking dumbass?

Don't forget to sage shit threads.

Sage.

>socialists, ladies and gentlemen
I already pay a shitload of money for niggers to shit out 40 kids and live on lobster and free TV. You want me to pay more?
This is why all socialists are teenagers and young adults who live with mommy and daddy. Your tone will change once you start paying your share, faggot.

Superb idea. I kind of punishment tax, whilst at the same time giving Nazi and Norwegian style benefits to people who have many kids.

Lets just get rid of niggers instead

If women are allowed to breastfeed in public, I should be able to jack off wherever I want.

isnt the bachelor tax one reason why rome fell?

You can't apply a tax like this without supplying a reasonable way for the person to avoid paying the tax. The government would have to provide men with women to breed with, and that would require a rollback of women's suffrage across the board. Be careful what you ask for.

Taxation is theft though.

How about eliminating income tax so people are more comfortable with having kids?

I pay like 27% of my income, and live in a state with no income tax. That would be an abundant amount to throw at a handsome trust fund for my future children each year, while still living comfortably.

>Childless people are benefiting from the governmental system while not putting a fair contribution into it.

Have you seen the amount of tax return money you get from having a kid? You pay taxes if you're childless. Your refunds are huge if you have kids.

>People aren't having kids because its not financially feasible.
>Punishing them financially for not having kids will fix the problem.

Fuck off Obongo, we had enough of this scam with your fucked up healthcare.

Isn't that the case already? You get deductins if you have children. Certain states allow further indirect deductions for having children (like paying a child seater in Louisiana)

Jokes on you I don't pay tax because I don't work

you don't pay payroll taxes but you pay every other tax like sales tax, etc
jokes on you