Top Secret Clearances

Has anyone here ever gotten one? I ask not because I want you to gib top secret shit, but because I am getting one (I am either currently under FBI investigation or they are about to start) and I am wondering if anti-semitic/anti-nigger shitposting can fuck it up. My career is kinda riding on this.

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>implying you'll ever pass an SSBI if you've posted on Sup Forums

I have bad news..

I really hope you are kidding.. I mean, I am not a threat to national security in any way, I just hold very frowned-upon political views. I am loyal to America, that should be it, right? RIGHT??

you're posting with a nazi flag on a fucking imageboard known for radical political opninions and the NSA has a copy of all of your browsing habits

Are you retarded?

everything posted here is an artistic bla bla bla.

Dont forget that. If you see it as shitposting it shouldent be a problem. I swear to... bilderberg there will be massive debate regarding the obviouse case of shitposters.

But yeah.

I knew a guy who is in the position I am aiming for and he said Sup Forums is "defined as a nationalistic pro-white conglomerate of mid-high IQ individuals jaded by societies social stigmas and an increasingly uncaring government" and he said we are not a national security threat so we are listed as low-mid tier threat level. I am posting with a NatSoc flag because that is my political ideology and that is not illegal in America.

>muh radical tendencies
>muh registry of shitposters
>muh case study
>muh eugenics

NSA has done damage to private induviduals. The industry is working with them to help society handle this. Or atleast i hope thats whats going on.

Also I would be working with the NSA.

you should have a security interview, anything they don't like will be used to put you on the spot.
unless you're going for something serious or officey i don't see shit posting being a problem as long as it is shit posting not incitement

It is shitposting, almost exclusively. b8, jokes, etc. I am going for something serious. Navy CTN if that helps. Basically hacker for the US with a ts clearance and I would work with the NSA as well.

Jesus you mongs are retarded. They neither know nor care that you hang out on a Cambodian farming forum or masturbate to cartoons.

>Are you retarded?
Do you even need to ask lol? This guy is a buffoon. However, nothing suprises me. He may get the job, but will certainly have a blackmail box checked on his personnel file.....It would break about 2 minutes before his retirement and screw it all up.

>copy of all your browsing habits

nigger they don't even scan your social media closely

all they do is do a credit check and interview the friends and employers you give them

I'll put it simply. The NSA knows everything you're doing, and they can probably figure you out pretty quickly.
It's why I don't use a VPN. I don't give a shit if people knew what I was posting here. The entire backdated UI is to subdue people into thinking this stupid site isn't actually modern. Why hide what you post? You're either shitposting, or you're larping and actually love America. That's why you're applying to the NSA in the first place. Trust in the government now that the government is being cleaned up, but you will need to spend less time on here once my tax dollars are funding your career, faggot.

Lol no faggot.
I currently have a secret clearance and everything is gravy.
I shitpost all the time.

The question was not for idiots who don't know what they are talking about and have obviously never gone through the process.
I know they mostly go on the information you give in the NASIS forms, but the thing that stands out to me is that they typically spend $80k doing the investigation. That is a whole lot of investigating.

this. you're paranoid and assuming too much

I doubt that for a run of the mill TS clearance anyone will ever notice.

In retrospect, I'm glad I never bothered with a clearance.

Now I can run my mouth without liability, and now I don't have to be afraid of not passing penis inspection.

Use a proxy, or just say "we have a wireless router that the ISP keeps resetting, so who knows who was connecting."

They can trace a connection back to a particular house, and a particular MAC address, but a MAC can be spoofed.

Plausible deniability all around.

BUT, if they really don't like you, they'll call you out on incompetence.

If you aren't confident pulling that off, just remember that Sup Forums is all 100% kosher satire.

>I am loyal to America, that should be it, right?
Tell me this, when the Nazi hordes come flooding out of the southern polar opening to take over the world whose side are you going to be on?

yeah.....becuase there is not a single thinktank that could not use the chans as....stuff.

Depends on the level of clearance. Anything high and they are going to know basically everything about you and everyone you know. If it's low they will just want to know you haven't been investigated for anything too serious and are not on any watch lists or have massive conflicts of interest.

Imagine if everything you ever said online is beeing stored, stolen and used.

Then imagine future leaders who have touched nothing but the internett millenals have known.

The insane risk of elitism should concern you more than what your post history is.

If you live by the motto that your online precence has already been stolen and abused you can look away from most of it hoping the industry catches up with leading proffesionals. (considering you are not a complete moron)

But... this just hides you among the masses. Future threath assesments are scary shit. So gl with the party van

i had one, but it was before the internet.

I have one. Ask away.
>usaf Intel

No. They don't dig into your browser history. The biggest thing that they care about is that your answers on your SF86 match what your references say.
They will look at your social media as much as they can. If everything is locked down right there is only so much they can see. I'd still erase any inflammatory posts or photos of underage drinking, drugs, etc that I hope you are smart enough to have it posted in the first place.
They legitimately don't give a shit if you drank underage. They legitimately don't give a shit if you have smoked pot. Lying to them is what will prevent you from getting a clearance, and they will find out if you lied.

I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you.

In the UK they don't really care what you've done for the most part, as long as you're honest about it in your interviews when asked. If you try to hide stuff that's a problem, because it creates levers that can be used against you. Serious criminal records aside they are mostly worried that you might be vulnerable to blackmail.

I'm sure there are some behaviours that could be a problem but I doubt shit-posting counts.

They're more concerned with knowing what you think about when you masturbate.

After this post, they won't need to ask. They'll know it's cock, because of your massive OP faggotry.

They don't have access to your browsing information.

They could probably get it if they really wanted it, but it's not worth the effort and murky legality just for some enlisted military guy's TS clearance.

Be more worried about your friends telling them that you smoked weed than them finding out about Sup Forums

>all they do is do a credit check and interview the friends and employers you give them
they interviewed every teacher I had past 6th grade, every person in my neighborhood and every coworker at my place of employment.

Ok hears your answer. Its a matter of Cognitive dissonance. And explanation, In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values. The occurrence of cognitive dissonance is consequence of a person's performing an action that contradicts personal beliefs, ideals, and values; and also occurs when confronted with new information that contradicts said beliefs, ideals, and values..... So in gist if Your job requirements and your racism case Cognitive dissonance between yourself or others you will be working with or even correlating with then yes it will be a problem. I Once held seAcret Clearance.

P-please, I can only get so erect

>Has anyone here ever gotten one
I have one.
>I am wondering if anti-semitic/anti-nigger shitposting can fuck it up.
I post here from time to time and it did not affect my chances one bit. Hell, I turned down 175k a year gig with the NSA a couple years ago because I didn't want to move across the country.

People give the federal govt too much credit.

They'll make you undergo a poly and ask you about all your shit.

They'll interview your parents, neighbors, friends.

They'll look at your finances and check to see for any drug use.

Any red flags and you're probably not getting in.

Do they give you a psych test? I'm thinking specifically of the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory.

Okay. I have never used drugs other than alcohol and caffeine, but I am drinking underage right now. I don't post drinking underage on social media besides the occasional drunken snapchat story that I delete the next day hoping not too many people saw. I don't lie on forms either. No reason to for me. I am pretty squeaky clean besides the whole National Socialism thing.

>I am posting with a NatSoc flag because that is my political ideology and that is not illegal in America.
Not illegal, but the NSA is still gonna think you're a fucking wacko. And they'd probably be right

everyone in the nsa is fucking wacko

A poly is only required for certain agencies, not for the SSBI process itself.

It's not nearly as hard to get TS clearance as people think it is.

True, it depends what you're doing. Chances are OP is a faggot, so he'll be fine.

I have, but it's top secret so I can't talk about it

That is very reassuring.
I know for sure I will get an initial polygraph test and then one every year to make sure I have not given out secrets.
I am actually a very normal dude, just NatSoc. I have a few close friends, normal relationships with women, close with my family, go to the gym, go to concerts and shit just like anyone else. Just in a National Socialist fashion.

Don't reveal any secret , be loyal and good and most importantly don't be stupid.
If you do all that you shouldn't have to worry about anything. But honestly I doubt you're really getting one you larping faggot.

>a psych test
For fucking what?
Ok good, drug use is usually what fucks people. Own up to it in the beginning or if you lie, keep the lie forever and ever. They never asked any of my references if I drank underage, though one accidentally told them Kek. If you don't lie and your references say what's in your form, you won't have a problem.

I know some real pieces of shit with TS/SCI clearances. Depending on who you go to or what your job is, there may be a lifestyle poly test in your future. If so, you should be fine if your reply to me was truthful.

The nsa boys are well aware of this site, you'll be fine that is as long as they don't see this thread. you're not allowed to talk about this right ?

I have a TS/SCI. They don't look at your browser history you complete idiot, just think about it. How the fuck would the government have the man power to go through tens of thousands of people's browser histories a year? The amount of time that would take is incredible. Just make sure your SF86 is 100% correct, and don't put down references that will answer the door smoking pot.

Also, there is no fucking psych test. Again, manpower issue.

I am. I don't know how to prove it to you without doxxing myself so I won't bother trying, but I have a CTN contract with the Navy. I am shipping to basic training at the end of July. I just went to MEPS to get my fingerprints done again because I have been in DEP so long that they had to redo them, and they said there that they will probably start the investigation now. But yeah, I can handle that. That is pretty basic stuff.

Yeah, once a year is pretty standard. Sometimes they fly people out East to fuck with them in the process for follow-up polys, too. Good luck.

i've never gotten one through working for the FBI but I've held a general contract with the federal government since 1990.. I am my own agency :)

>Also, there is no fucking psych test. Again, manpower issue.
i had mine the last week of basic.

Go for it. you're lucky to go in early. If you leave they'll be alot of good private sector jobs available for you. Fight for all the training you can get

It was, I have no reason to lie to you. No idea what my references will say because honestly I don't even remember who I put down because the whole "you can only use each person once" shit when filling out the forms, but I haven't done any really bad shit, never done drugs, etc. One thing I am worried about is my stepmother though. She is an insufferable cunt who accused me of raping my ex-girlfriend because she heard screaming in the basement just cause my ex made awful sex noises that I didn't know about until it was too late kek
I am allowed to talk about getting it. There is specific info on everything I have said elsewhere online. I just want to know about this specific site. And I have been reassured so far.

>For fucking what?
To make sure the person they are bringing in isn't psychotic or prone to psychosis.

>I am actually a very normal dude, just NatSoc
There is no "just NatSoc," thing. That's the thing. On the NSA shitlist, you're only one step below the Jihadis.

To them, you're not a normal guy, you're a possible church shooter

>they typically spend $80k doing the investigation. That is a whole lot of investigating.
or well-paid investigators

So if we smoked a bunch of weed and did a bunch of drugs in high school we should just not bother trying for positions that require a security clearance? I partied hard as a dumb kid and would basically have to lie on my sf86 or I would be rejected anyways. If I stuck to my lie and gave them good references would i be ok?

The thing is, I basically act civic-nationalist in public. I have never shown any behavior that would lead to that except for muh rayciss shitposting.
Thanks, and yeah I will. I am really looking forward to it all.

you have to be clean for a certain amount of time before. blood test in medical i'd assume

Sweet, do be start grooming you as nsaanon now or later?

Hide your power level, especially if you work for the man

I've been on the straight and narrow for a long time now. It's approaching 7 years, which is the timeframe they ask for. I'm just worried that the extent of it will fuck me over

Worry more about what your friends/acquaintances will say about you when they are called.

admit it and get a waiver for most jobs... certain jobs its a no go. if you lie and they find out expect a less than honorable discharge.

Nope.

Also, fake and gay.

they don't care, just be honest unless you're 100% sure anyone who knows wouldn't rat you out

it's a felony to lie on these checks though so just come clean. if they find out you lied at any point it would ruin your life. I knew a guy that sold LSD and admitted it and he got clearance. They really don't care if it's in the past

>but I am drinking underage right now
Do you mean you are underage yourself? If so you're just larping.

they will be pale from no sunlight and sp00ky, user

Clearances of any kind always come with a "need to know" caveat. If you don't need to know, you don't get access.
Example: Navy operations types don't get to read the operating manuals for the nuclear plants on their ship,and vice versa.

It depends. The rumor mill around goodfellow was that the Air Force would only let you in if you'd smoked pot 15 times or less. So, if you told your recruiter that you hadn't smoked so that you could get in, but then got cautious about filling out the SF 86 and confessed that you had smoked, you have now lied on an official document and could be kicked out. So if you have references that will pack up whatever you put, you might have a chance, but if your job requires a polygraph you might be screwed. I wouldn't recommend it because If you lie, they will most likely find out.

No absolutely, I never show my power level unless it is to my two best friends that have similar views and my complete trust. Never in public, never in a professional environment for sure. I even do a good job of keeping it in check while drunk.
My little sister outed me as NatSoc to my parents when she was mad at me (fucking women, right?) but from what I can tell, that isn't really something you can be kicked out for just because it is your political view. I am a pretty damn morally sound person and I haven't done awful things

Where do the high-IQ people hang out??

WHERE???

It's an 18x contract. Know if it would affect It?

Do you know when the guy got it. The recruiters tell me that when Iraq and Afghanistan were in full swing they handed out waivers like candy but now it's almost impossible

the worst thing that could happen is them say no.
be honest though, they catch you lying, that's it

19 is underage in America. I turn 20 next month, and the age to enlist is 18 or 17 with parental consent. Not sure what you're talking about bud.
I was actually originally going to be a nuke but switched, so I would have had I stayed on that path.

I have never lied to the Navy and I don't really lie in general besides "Me, racist? Noooo"

Do you attach your name to the posts you make online? If not then you'll be fine.

Just tell the truth and don't lie. Depending on what level of clearance it's you'll probably do an interview and that's when you can fuck it up the most if you don't know how to keep your mouth shut and only answer that is asked truthfully.

Dude, you are overthinking this. They don't give a flying fuck what your political views are. They don't ask about your political views. Why do you keep bringing them up, your questions have been answered multiple times in this thread.
>don't lie
>make sure your interview answers mirror the form
>that's is

Since you seem to need everything spelled out for you, let me tell you this. On your interview, they literally only ask you about everything you put on your form after they make you swear an oath of honesty. They also use this time to clear up any questions they have concerning your interview. For example, I moved many times when I was younger and sometimes these moves overlapped with different jobs. Reading it on the form was confusing, so they just asked me to clarify the timelines.

So to reiterate, the interview is about your form. Nothing. Else.

Fuck yourself nigger with AIDS user is the best thing about America, loyal, has his own thoughts, honest and can logically discuss them. Go back to r/eddit faggot.

Wait, am I suppose to actually believe in any of the garbage I post on here? I never agreed to that.

...

Now you're just absolutely bullshitting. Background checks are one of the most overhyped things ever. Most background checks are done in less than 2 months, at most. Besides, going to past teachers and people in your neighborhood would lead to no information. Chances are, they either no nothing except "he was a nice guy," thus leading to a waste of time.

This guy is right OP you are fine. If they were really that serious, over half of the government wouldn't have jobs.

OP if you're really interested here's a list of grants and denials for clearance in a contracting sector this year. You can see their reasoning for each case.

ogc.osd.mil/doha/industrial/2017.html

As you can see they're pretty flexible. Good luck to you

How do I not attach it to my posts

-bigmike

This is the human race.
Plebbit is lower IQ, and Twatter and Faceberg are the dross. At least they can function on a computer, though. Plenty of people are much duller than anybody you'll find online.

Okay, thank you. This place makes you paranoid. holy shit this is helpful, thank you.

>trust in the government
>guilty of unamerican activities
Fuck yourself nigger with AIDS. Stay in communist China.

Now they're going to show you a dot-matrix printout of this thread and ask you to explain what you were thinking.

Good one, dinkus.

>we are not a national security threat so we are listed as low-mid tier threat level

What? Trust me we're not low-mid tier threat level. We are super important and an international threat to social and cyber security. I think you should join the NSA and change our threat status to High-Severe.

>i had mine the last week of basic.

I was an intel analyst in a interrogation/counter-intelligence unit and never took one. I literally did a year working in counter-espionage, a psych test was never brought up. Maybe you had one because you're a fucking retard and they thought you needed one.

>So if we smoked a bunch of weed and did a bunch of drugs in high school we should just not bother trying for positions that require a security clearance

I wouldn't even apply. They probably won't find out if you lie, but it's a big deal if they do find out. Remember, they won't just talk to your references. They'll talk to your neighbors, people you went to high school with, etc. If there are people who don't like you that know you did that shit, and you lie.. you're fucked.

>If I stuck to my lie and gave them good references would i be ok?

Lying on your SF 86 is a felony. If I advise you to then I'm guilty of conspiracy to commit a felony. Don't lie on your SF86, tell the truth of the drugs you did. Worse case they'll reject you. Worse case if you lie is prison.

>ID: fED
well shit

user, if you're not LARPing here, then my advice to you is to just tell the absolute truth. To every single question you will be asked. Trust me, they already know the answers to every thing about you in advance. Good luck.

If so then you honestly don't have to worry about your browsing habit.

Thanks that's what I needed to hear. God a really ducking hate testosterone fueled pubescent me. All I wanted to do was fuck sluts and rail ketamine. Boy was i a loser

The Nazi party has been banned in the USA from 1939. Have fun looking for a new job

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no idea.. i got out in the 90's. I'm sure shit has changed since then.

I definitely wouldn't lie. Thank you user

The biggest threat to the American government won't be the dissidents, Marxist, communists or degenerates, it will be true patriots reclaiming what they've lost.