Seriously now, why is the EU not putting more money into Libya? Every euro put into the Libyan navy, into Libyan detention centers and the Libyan police force, is 20 euros saved in Europe. Illegal uneducated migrants are very expensive for European countries.
Also, France and Britain and Italy bombed Libya into chaos. Personally, I think that if you bomb something, you should then rebuild it. It is just a matter of paying for what you trashed.
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You brought this upon yourselves
>You brought this upon yourselves
Last I checked Germany was a staunch opponent of bombing Libya and was actually trying to keep Gaddafi in power.
you think your government and leaders care?? they don't. their whole plan with all of this is to kill the cultures of the european countries and make it all one big communist nation. it's a part of their new world order agenda. replacement through migration. oh and $$$ profit for themselves.
Stop Europeans from bringing them in. Duh
I think Germany should pay the rest of Europe because of the chaos Angela Merkel has caused.
Angela keeps saying we have to pay if we don't take in her rapist subhuman filth, but i think she is the one should pay us for every one we have to take care of. What do you think lad? Sounds fair?
>Stop Europeans from bringing them in. Duh
How do we do that? If you are talking about NGO boats, they have American drafted international law on their side - it is illegal to block them from entering EU harbors if they say they got people on board which they fished out of the water.
>I think Germany should pay the rest of Europe because of the chaos Angela Merkel has caused.
Angela Merkel said NO to the Libyan war. How is she to blame for the chaos in Libya which Britain and France and Italy caused?
shoot them
>they have American drafted international law on their side
There's no such thing as international law
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>Angela Merkel said NO to the Libyan war.
The Libyan war was in 2011 you spastic, the ficki flow didn't start until four years later. They jumped on the 'wir schaffen das' bandwagon, and now you do what they do and blame it all on whoever is West of you.
>Germany
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>There's no such thing as international law
there is American drafted international law.
Pistol caliber carbines.
Low recoil / follow-up shots.
Good enough for medium distances.
Cheap.
Get hollow points and fill the tips with bacon fat.
>The Libyan war was in 2011 you spastic, the ficki flow didn't start until four years later
So you are saying the reason why illegals exclusively come from Libya has nothing to do witht he Libyan war?
Ok then, mate, good you are hiding your flag. You are a disgrace to your home country.
The fuck.....
What's this from?
No
Just bomb more
Destroy the boat motors and tow the boats back to Africa.
The only reason they are coming over in droves is because none is stopping them.
why dont the European nations act like sovereign nations and just fucking shoot anyone trying to violate their borders
This is close to Callais. Black are trying to get to the UK. This has been going on for several years. France doesn't give two fucks about them. They harass truck drivers who are heading to the UK... in order to hide in their trucks. The UK still only checks around 10% of the trucks, so they got a very good chance to get to the UK illegally.
>Destroy the boat motors and tow the boats back to Africa.
>The only reason they are coming over in droves is because none is stopping them.
Actually, pretty much all boats made out of wood have been destroyed.
Smugglers now exclusively use Chinese made rubber dinghies with old car motors converted to boat motors.
Fuck. Imagine the car getting stuck in the branches.
Easy. Three step plan:
1/ Put a corridor of naval mines in place.
2/ A couple of destroyers should patrol the area 24/7.
3/ Eradicate every rapefugee craft on spot.
Colonialism is the only solution these dumbfucks are way too degenerate to create a stable government.
You want a solution?
Let military ships patrol the mediterranean sea, every migrant boat is simply brought back to lybias coast.
Evey resistance should be recognized as aggression and they should be allowed to fire.
But it's not meant to stop and even if we would take these meassures it's already too late prepare yourself for war.
Would it be possible to start a kickstarter fond to hire a mercanaries that patrol the sea?
Why did you sanction us when we tried to stop them with the ex Berlusconi government? If Germany wants the Libian route to be open, you should also deal with the consequences
blockade the coast of north africa
> Also, France and Britain and Italy bombed Libya into chaos
No. "They" did not.
You Europhile, Globalist, "Neo-liberals/conservatives" like Blair did that.
Fuck you OP we all know you are just a proxy for the US "deep state".
>Let military ships patrol the mediterranean sea, every migrant boat is simply brought back to lybias coast.
they sink the boats. Then you have to, under international law, rescue the people in the water. Once on board a military ship, they are allowed to utter the word "asylum". You then, again under international law, need to process their asylum request, also allowing appeals.
Italy's justice system is so bad, it takes 4yrs at a minimum for an initial ruling on asylum. Italy also fails to intern asylum seekers on islands, which means they move on to Switzerland, Germany, Austria, France and the UK.
The problem in all of this is A. not handing Libya money to deal with the problem and B. not interning the asylum seekers on islands where they cannot move on.
>Why did you sanction us when we tried to stop them with the ex Berlusconi government?
Source on Germany sanctioning Italy?
>You Europhile, Globalist, "Neo-liberals/conservatives" like Blair did that.
>Fuck you OP we all know you are just a proxy for the US "deep state".
Then why was Germany against the Libya war? Explain that.
The EU did. Because "asking asylum is a human right". Germany pretty much controls the EU, so....
This is correct. Intercepting and dragging back boats would probably break the international law of piracy. I mean, we could all get together and re-write those laws but it may have unintended consequences, like the return of real pirates for example.
> Personally, I think that if you bomb something, you should then rebuild it.
> Germany
Top kek.
>just give them money
how about we just fuck this stupid law and shoot anyone trying to violate our borders instead
The migrants will go wherever they can find opportunities and gibs. Africa in general needs a new migrant magnet. At one time there was Rhodesia, South Africa, and Libya. All of these countries were developing quickly and poised to become actual first world nations on the African continent. Civilization was finally blossoming in Africa. Now there is basically nothing.
A few countries here and there exploit their mineral wealth, but no country exists in Africa now that draws the kind of labor flows that Rhodesia, South Africa, and Libya once did.
>The EU did. Because "asking asylum is a human right".
Source on the EU sanctioning the Italian government?
>how about we just fuck this stupid law and shoot anyone trying to violate our borders instead
How about we do it by the book? I assume Lampedusa can actually hold 100,000 illegals in camps and an airfield to fly those rejected back to their home countries.
1 month after introducing a policy to all bring them to Lampedusa, no illegal would ever come to Italy again. Simple as that. Nobody will pay money to be interned on an island without any chance of moving on to Germany or Switzerland.
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all their minds are brimming full with muslim filth.
(((Harvard))), a Zionist traitor nest?
and who's going to pay for that Kraut?
You really under-estimate the lengths people will go through for free gibs, not to mention the people smugglers and maffia.
Well they don't even need to make it across the sea, even Lybian army has to often tell NGO ships to GTFO of their waters. The fuckers would even land at Laybian shores if it would be possible.
>Let's build up Libya as a nation, because we're clearly incapable of just telling invaders to fuck off
German posters are mong some of the worst on this board. Then again, you're all T*rks anyway.
Neck yourself, OP
why do they get away with taking them to italy? why dont the return them to african shores where they often pick them up?
>and who's going to pay for that Kraut?
It is cheaper by far than the current situation. Italy is paying billions due to the crisis. The Lampedusa internment option would actually stop the migrant inflow within weeks, those costing essentially 0 euros, but saving billions.
You broke it, you fix it.
If you got a better solution, tell me. You want to seriously sink NGO boats? How do you want to "tell invaders to fuck off"? I mean Italian SJWs will just sue the Italian government for breaking the law.
Theres merit to the idea of using Libya as a place to dump the shitskins. Instead of giving them money, a European country should conquer Libya, set up a puppet government and use the oil revenue to pay for the expenses of removing Kebab. Hell use the ones who got caught committing offenses in Europe as penal labor.
>why do they get away with taking them to italy? why dont the return them to african shores where they often pick them up?
Easy. The Italian government could demand from the NGO that they verify there was no closer option to bring the migrants to. But the NGOs already claim that there is no closer safe harbor. Also, it is debatable whether the closer safe harbor rule allows Italy to block NGOs from entering Italian harbors.
Or in other words, the Italian government doesn't want to risk a PR disaster with poor kids being filmed by the NGOs on ships in the heat waiting to enter an Italian harbor. After a few days of massive Western SJW media shilling for "refugees" like back in Greece at this Idomineo camp, they will let the NGO boat in again.
>and Italy
>and Italy
>and Italy
>and Italy
>and Italy
You filthy snow niggers and eurocucks have killed /our guy/ in Libya. You deserve to be ethnically cleansed for that.
those NGOs are already violating the law
international laws on refugees already wouldnt acknowledge people as refugees if theyve passed through a nation where their prosecution isnt guaranteed.
you underestimate the lengths people will go through for free gibs.
Give Serbs, Croatians, Bosians and other low caste slavs guns and when they inevitably start killing each other again, everything will be taken care off that way. You can't run from war if war is in front of you too :^)
I consider myself quite defeatist, but you take the fucking cake, Mehmet.
But no, you can't build up sandnigger nations, it's an impossibility and very undesireable at that.
>for breaking the law.
>breaking the law
You mean they would be autistically screechin when someone would demand the law to be respected. Since the start of this shit show everyone breaks the law otherwise there wouldn't be almost 2 millions of refugees in Germany.
>Or in other words, the Italian government doesn't want to risk a PR disaster with poor kids being filmed by the NGOs on ships in the heat waiting to enter an Italian harbor.
so its not just the ngos and the eu. italy is directly responsible..
>But no, you can't build up sandnigger nations, it's an impossibility and very undesireable at that.
Libya was among the richest countries in the Arab world before it was bombed. It still got a shitton of oil and gas.
We can build it up again and then buy their oil and gas for cheap. Plus, no more illegals from there.
Every single illegal who does not come to Europe is 400,000 euros saved. Or in other words, every 10,000 illegals stopped coming to Europe are 4 billion saved. We can invest 1 billion into Libya to stop 200,000 illegals. It is a nobrainer.
>you underestimate the lengths people will go through for free gibs.
No, I do not. Look at Greece. Once Greece kept the illegals on their little islands close to Turkey, nobody came any more. Nobody.
Why would you pay thousands of dollars to smugglers and risk your life... only to be put on an island with the only option to be deported back home after not getting a single cent for months or years? 95% of asylum seekers are rejected, you know.
We really need to transform a few islands into refugee camps. They cannot leave until their asylum claim has been processed, if it is rejected they get sent back with boats.
Exactly. That is the only solution.
isnt it full of jihadis?
>How can we solve the problem of migrants crossing from Libya to Europe
Bring Gaddafi back from the dead.
few attacks hellis
kill some
rest will reconsider coming here
geee fucking germans forgot how to deal with trash, wake up hans
Thankfully, our center right party says that this is the way to go. And most people approve of this.
I wonder when your government and the others will finally see that they can't just do nothing about all of this chaos?
I don't understand it, seriously.
>Neo-coloniasm
Just fuck off, you dumb cunt. It doesn't matter how many goddamn resources a country has, that doesn't mean you can make anything out of it.
Africa is the richest continent bar none, but also the fucking worst.
Go ahead, tell of your grand plan to build up Congo. Lots of resources down there.
>Libya was among the richest countries in the Arab world
yet, even during gaddafis regime migrants wanted to go to europe. really jogs the nog
>How can we solve the problem of migrants crossing from Libya to Europe[?]
keep doing what you're doing, you good, gracious and generous goyim...
>how to stop them
I don't know, ask the people with stick and stones 5000 years ago. Have borders and kill people on borders, that's how. Refugee law only existed since WW2.
Change your policies and public opinion. Start forming parties and organizations to address it. Start protesting and participating in getting a following. Only then can you pass any laws or get government enforcement. Otherwise. Get out there with sticks like the Pols and chase them off before they get past the borders.
Coast patrols with orders to shoot and sink. The West's colossal mistake has been to subordinate self-interest under notions of universal rights.
Hard problems require hard solutions.
Italy has a very easy job getting rid of migrants, they just sink barely floatable boats.
>which Britain and France and Italy caused
America and France. Gaddafi was always a pain in the ass for the first and they always wanted to kill him and the latter was jealous of Italian rights on Libyan petrol.
Sink the boats. High seas piracy.
because borders are racist user
t. george s.
He is incorrect, it was not the "EU" that sanctioned italy but European court of human rights
Here's the source.
Not many Libyans though. Mostly people from down south wanted to come.