Work at job, get taxed income on paycheck

>work at job, get taxed income on paycheck
>use taxed income to pay for house
>pay sales tax on house, with money from income you were already taxed on
>proceed to pay yearly taxes like a good goy on the same house you already paid sales taxes on, using the same money that you already paid income taxes on
>sell house to retire, pay capital gains tax again on property you already paid sales tax on, yearly property taxes on, using income that was taxed annually
>on your way to die, you leave your money to your children
>children pay inheritance taxes on money you left them, that was already taxed like 5 times

seriously, how are people not rioting in the streets over this faggotry?

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>Nobody else rioting.
>If I riot alone I get thrown in jail quickly.
There's your answer OP .

>new job last june
>being taxed hard all year, they do nothing about it
>literally why does it take 12 months to not be fleeced every month
>this morning get a check in the post for £1500 from HMRC
>in May I got a check for £400 tax refund too

At least that's one welfare payment for Abdul I've got back

But yeah, I don't get it op. Over here people even demand tax hikes to support lower classes even more. Western countries right now are dysgenics factories.

Libtards will cry
>it's for muh poor people

Fascists will cry
>it's for my nations

Ancaps and Lolbraterians know the truth
>it's theft.

That's not even half of it, most of its hidden. Then you're told you don't pay nough by someone people lol.

Looks like you be had a bit too much to think, OP. Consider this a warning.

This. I remember reading an article somewhere where they had figured out that your average new car would cost ~$10,000 if it weren't for all the hidden taxes.

>seriously, how are people not rioting in the streets over this faggotry?

They have dumbed us down. Also people are practicing communists and don't even realize it.

PAY UR FAIR SHARE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GIBMEDAT

It's horseshit. I remember coming out of highschool thinking I would be able to save money easily.

I was lucky to see half of my paycheck after taxes which came out to like 160 bucks for a 40 hour work week.

>Wage cucking

Never again. I'll just leech off the system. The system wants to kill my people so fuck the system

I earned ~>£300,000 last year, paid about £110,000 just in income tax alone.

Id be fine with it if I was paying towards my own kind, but in reality I am just subsidising three or four of the families that were living in Grenfall tower.

Serfdom might unironically be better than the current wagecuckery.

Any tax on a business inevitably ends up being a tax on the consumer or employee through stifled wages. Businesses can only run a certain defined profit margin. If it's too high someone will gladly come in and undercut them, if it's too low it's not worth the effort. There really is no such thing as a tax on businesses. That's where most of the hidden taxes I was alluding to comes from.

this and nobody is gonna riot except nignogs, when they have an ac a big tv and a playstation at home

>pay capital gains tax again on property you already paid sales tax on

Capital gains tax is a tax on inflation. A tax on a tax!

I know this is a completely foreign concept to you clapistanians, but we have this radical notion that when we take care of our poor, we're actually buying a peace of mind for ourselves.

We don't need to pack a piece or lock our car doors in certain parts of town, or watch our backs at the ATM. The streets are safe for kids to walk on, because the degenerate fucks who are up to no good are either drunk, stoned or both in the comfort of their government-paid studio apartments.

You should look up what early Romans used to pay as tax. Greatest to have been.

thats what im saying. how the fuck is this shit tolerated when 1/3rd of our paycheck goes out the window right off the bat? and then we get fucking taxed multiple times on the same shit we already bought???? like its a privilege to own things and we basically have to pay the government rent?

every year we pay taxes on car ownership. when you register to the state DMV you fucking pay taxes. well what the fuck were the state income taxes i paid for then?

This. Businessmen don't pay taxes. Customers and employees pay the taxes.

thats the biggest crime of it all. the misappropriation. its not even being used properly or responsibly, its just going to pad union labor pensions at government jobs that have no standards of quality and cant fire shitty employees

Tax systems are an esoteric/occult code of laws. The (((chosen))) know the magical loopholes which prevent them from getting fucked in the asshole by it while the uninitiated remain enslaved to the spell.

>Create a charity and trust fund for some sjw or jewish cause
>Donate X amount of income to charities which is tax deductible
>take "administrative fees" from the donations and come tax day put them right back into the charity
>Move the rest over shores to some island government owned by a kike where it can go untaxed
>claim depreciation on all of your assets

this is only surface level shit. I wonder how deep the tax rabbit hole really goes. It would be interesting to sit down with a billionaire and listen to his tricks to avoid getting gouged by the state

One reason why the rich get richer is because they dodge these tax-traps. Wealth transfer across generations is the main way people increase their net worth, and for most they get taxed out the ass.

But if you are rich, you can offload your assets to your children years in advance, as long as you don't die from ~7 years then there will be no inheritance tax paid.

Im trying to find out more ways in which rich people dodge taxes, other than the blatantly obvious panama corporation stuff.

That pic made me sick to my stomach

>tfw in the neofeudalism timeline

That's relatively true. Never thought of it like that. Welfare is truly evil.

don't forget taxes on gas, inspection.

anytime any money whatsoever is transacted, user you're getting taxed, most of which are hidden. artificial inflation is a hidden tax on money you already paid taxes on and own. all products are upsold higher than normal to pay for the grocer's taxes.

your wages are taxed by your wage being cut to pay for business tax, health insurance.

this directly affects the masses and lower classes, you would think this would be priority NUMBER ONE for even the most leftist of leftfags. all the occupy wallstreet faggots. how are they not demanding tax reform? instead of demanding it, they fight it, just to obstruct Trump

>Im trying to find out more ways in which rich people dodge taxes, other than the blatantly obvious panama corporation stuff.

Look into the "Big Four" accountancy firms. They audit 99% of the companies in the FTSE 100.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Four_accounting_firms

>inb4 die in a home invasion

Stay on that treadmill real good, slave, or all (your) stuff goes bye bye.

Because 95% of this burden falls on whites, OP. Whites don't chimp out and riot like niggers. We civilly bear it until one day, the entire nation and government go full 14/88 all at once.

take a look at your fucking cell phone bill


i mean what the actual fuck, why the fuck are there state and federal taxes on some goddamn consumer service? the whole premise of taxing individual goods and services in an economy differently is inherently unfair

take sin taxes for instance. how in the fuck is there legal justification for a tax on liquor? its like the faggots in government decided they would look bad if they demanded to raise the national income tax rate, so instead passed a bunch of bullshit taxes on random small shit to cover their retarded uncontrollable budgets for retarded shit like $5 million dollars to (((professors))) to study whether college frats drink more alcohol than no frat members

breitbart.com/tech/2017/01/11/state-gave-brown-5-mil-discover-frat-boys-drink-peers/

this shit is just fucking ridiculous and all i can hope for is Trump is the reset button man that saves us $$$$$$$$$. maybe we need to all email him to remind him to use his business prowess and trim the fat. no wonder hes facing so much opposition, all these liberal faggots getting these federal grants for bullshit faggotry stand to lose billions of dollars

rant over, sorry!

And Sup Forums thinks niggers are dumb for going gansta

I figured that depending on your circumstances about 70-95% of your purchasing power is taxed away in some form or fashion.

>get tax refund
>buy a 1080ti and punch an immigrant

...

just wait for the inevitable tax on wealth, where they also take a fraction of your savings which were already taxed away.
It WILL come because if there's one thing they hate, it's people who don't live paycheck to paycheck.

>Then you're told you don't pay nough by someone people lol.

Specifically by the people who don't pay any.
>some tard spouting "lol I'd gladly pay more if that meant people didn't have to live in poverty"
>dig a bit
>tard is on benefits himself

People are retarded and will never understand this. Here in Germany it's the same with our healthcare. The employer used to pay about half of it, you payed the other half. Now it shifted a bit in favor of the employer and people start bitching that it should be 50:50 again.
And they don't understand that the employer never paid fucking any of it. That shit is already calculated into your wage, if he didn't have to pay all of that he could/would have paid you a higher wage.
The only reason we have these mandatory systems is because most people are fucking retarded and if you don't force them to pay for shit they'll eventually (but not immediately) need they just won't do it but instead blow the money on weed and beer. And then cry on your doorstep when they eventually reach the point where they would have needed it.

Problem is that you need a certain kind of wealth before all that trickery becomes worth the effort.
And you'll have problems accumulating such an amount of wealth because you get taxed to shit and need to live rather frugal to save up enough money to get there.

Basically you yourself won't profit from it unless you get really lucky, you'd just put your kids into a better starting position and maybe them are their children might get there.
But thanks to our fucked up education and divorce laws all that effort might simply evaporate and then you wasted your life for nothing.

Pretty much. I have this same argument with people all the time. Some people on the lower end of the totem pole here obsess about getting health insurance through their employer like it's more important then their actual wage.

Then they wonder why they still make basically the same shit wage as they did 8 years ago. Well, your health insurance costs went up 500% in that timespan, that's where all your raises went to dummy.

good luck if you get hurt on the job. the state won't help. I had to hire a lawyer and fight for years after working with an untreated fractured L2 vertabrae for 15 years, all the money I paid in and not one $ in help, this is why the white working class are dying

they already do this by inflation.

You think that's bad? Here in fullstralia we pay a 10% tax on all "goods and services".
That means pretty well every time money changes hands the government takes 10%..... how many times does the same dollar get taxed? No on knows.....

It's really just because people are stupid.

>tell people that they have to pay X for healthcare
>"wow, that's way too expensive"
>tell them they only have to pay X/2 for healthcare because the other half is covered by their employer
>hey love it because they don't understand that their employer will just cut their wages down

>sell a TV for $499.99
>people are more likely to buy it than one that's $500

>coworkers keeps talking about how much more he'll earn in his new job in Denmark
>now has less money than ever before because he ignored the higher costs of living

All these social systems are about forcing people to buy services you think they might eventually need while hiding the costs to make sure they don't understand how much it actually costs.

To be fair though, the state does not have much of a choice. Society wouldn't accept a
>You had the freedom to decide on your own, which also included the freedom to fuck up on your own and die
so they kinda have to do this.

Yeah, but they don't have total control over inflation because there are too many factors playing into it. The ECB is trying to get a constant 2% of inflation in the Eurozone and has been failing pretty hard.

A flat tax on wealth is much simpler and also more socially acceptable because all the morons think i will be "the rich" who'll be hit by it, not understanding that the rich would pay so much that it becomes profitable for them to just invent some time into finding a way to dodge it completely.

Shit is like that there too? I always heard you have way less taxes over there

>how are people not rioting in the streets over this faggotry
There's a thousand acts of tax resistance over human history. Governments always overplay their hand and cause people to revolt.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_historical_acts_of_tax_resistance#Examples

If money is changing hands it's assumed that it's a profitable transaction, i.e. both parties have created wealth by through exchange or supply of goods or assets. This is why business transactions get taxed, it's taxing the wealth creation, and it goes to support the infrastructure that allows those transactions to take place securely.

I might agree with you that taxation would be excessive if we were still in a gold standard, but fiat currency needs to be taxed (destroyed) in order to keep it circulating.

How do you think I feel I busted my ass getting an upper middle class earnings and uncle same takes about $850 dollars a week out of my check.

And no I'm not a millionaire I gross before taxes 100,000 but well government says I make too much so they take about 1/3 and give to some nig-Nogs that sit on couch all day smoke crack then riot about white privilege

I've come close a few times to snapping

>Here in fullstralia we pay a 10% tax on all "goods and services".


>tfw 16% sales tax in my country
>one party in the coalition wants to raise it by one or two percent, the other wants to keep it stable
>their compromise was to increase it to 19% (??)

They were clever enough to force businesses to include the sales tax in the price, too. They claim it's for costumer protection so you always know what you'll end up paying, but I am fairly certain it was more about preventing people from figuring out how fucking much they actually pay in sales taxes.

This ensure good economic sustainability.

It is way less taxes there than here and in Brazil

Give me one good reason not to just physically remove them.
>you can't

>how are people not rioting in the streets over this faggotry?

The cracks are starting to show. It is not sustainable. It will collapse. Especially if the debt is not taken care of.

Also you forgot in your post to break down those taxes by state and federal as well as local. For wife and I combined making 330k we spend about 2/3rds of our time working for the government. Two-thirds of our income goes to the government.

We probably do have less tax. You have much more socialist policies, favela niggers, and healthcare to pay for.

thats funny because i know an attorney who works for an insurance company and they have to pay illegal mexicans all the time when they get hurt on the job

canuck with the right answer this is a fpbp.

>Be me.
>Earn $2400 a month salary
>First time in my life I can afford to do literally anything because I'm not paid $9 an hour.
>Paying it all every month in bills, money runs out halfway.
>Rent is $1700 a month for the townhouse I share with two roommates.
>Roommates constantly fail to pay rent.
>Cover roommates.
>Dip into credit to pay bills.
>Do taxes
>Can't do EZ
>It's 1099.
>Self-Employment tax costs me thousands.
>Quit job, move to colorado.
>IRS is following me
>Filed an extension, dreading this years taxes.

>TFW you're either going to run to Costa Rica or file for bankruptcy.

>all money is jewish toilet paper backed by nothing whatsoever other than numbers in a computer somewhere
no one will riot over any of this
we've already been domesticated
real men have already been completely removed from the gene pool
embrace your fate, goy

You think 10% is bad? It's 20% here. They claimed it was a "temporary measure" due to the recession after raising it twice from 15% and are now debating raising it to 22.5% or even 25%.

Sets a precedent and there'll always be someone above you who might decide that you are part of the next group that gets deemed useless and is removed.

Taxes in themselves do make sense to keep the country running, it's just the they are completely overdoing it and putting a massive strain on the middle class.
And it is an endless spiral because they never fucking cut funding to anything. Once they allocated a budget for something, the only way it will go is up. So they need to constantly increase the taxes to keep financing it, till they eventually reach the point where some heads are bashed in and society resets.

"Consider the following sequence of cases... and imagine it is about you.

>There is a slave completely at the mercy of his brutal master's whims. He often is cruelly beaten, called out in the middle of the night, and so on.

>The master is kindlier and beats the slave only for stated infractions of his rules (not fulfilling the work quota, and so on). He gives the slave some free time.

>The master has a group of slaves, and he decides how things are to be allocated among them on nice grounds, taking into account their needs, merit, and so on.

>The master allows his slaves four days on their own and requires them to work only three days a week on his land. The rest of the time is their own.

>The master allows his slaves to go off and work in the city (or anywhere they wish) for wages. He requires only that they send back to him three-sevenths of their wages. He also retains the power to recall them to the plantation if some emergency threatens his land; and to raise or lower the three-sevenths amount required to be turned over to him. He further retains the right to restrict the slaves from participating in certain dangerous activities that threaten his financial return, for example, mountain climbing, cigarette smoking.

>The master allows all of his 10,000 slaves, except you, to vote, and the joint decision is made by all of them. There is open discussion, and so forth, among them, and they have the power to determine to what uses to put whatever percentage of your (and their) earnings they decide to take; what activities legitimately may be forbidden to you, and so on.

1/2

>Though still not having the vote, you are at liberty (and are given the right) to enter into the discussions of the 10,000, to try to persuade them to adopt various policies and to treat you and themselves in a certain way. They then go off to vote to decide upon policies covering the vast range of their powers.

>In appreciation of your useful contributions to discussion, the 10,000 allow you to vote if they are deadlocked; they commit themselves to this procedure. After the discussion you mark your vote on a slip of paper, and they go off and vote. In the eventuality that they divide evenly on some issue, 5,000 for and 5,000 against, they look at your ballot and count it in. This has never yet happened; they have never yet had occasion to open your ballot. (A single master also might commit himself to letting his slave decide any issue concerning him about which he, the master, was absolutely indifferent.)

>They throw your vote in with theirs. If they are exactly tied your vote carries the issue. Otherwise it makes no difference to the electoral outcome.

The question is: which transition from case 1 to case 9 made it no longer the tale of a slave?"

They are slightly lower than say the average European social democracy, but not much. It's just that they are hidden away far more, because Americans wouldn't accept it if it was plainly taken away from them to that degree(like a 21%VAT tax in Europe, we have a 5%-10% sales tax). It's just broken up and hidden in more ways and most Americans aren't smart enough to realize it.

Yeah I went to buy a mug from Mark Latham who was the leader of the opposition when they brought the tax.
>$20 for a mug? I'll buy 2
>get to checkout
>$44
Wtf!
>realise the history
>he did it deliberately to demonstrate how much you're being jewed

If all businesses did that I'm sure people would be furious.

>They claimed it was a "temporary measure"

I'm not sure how people keep falling for that. If the government "profits" from a temporary measure then it is not temporary. Even if what they wanted the money for is eventually done and the budget is freed up, they won't lower it again, they'll just spend the money on something else.

how would the IRS and government react if literally millions of people decided they had enough, and werent going to file their income taxes? all it would take is the internet, some viral marketing with a catchy webpage and slogan and memes.......

Obviously, only retards brought the "temporary measure" line. Every temporary tax has always become the new baseline to raise tax from. Government does not and never will willingly give up power or money it has taken for itself.

They'll arrest you long before your movement reaches critical mass.

If you'd somehow manage to pull it off it would work. Jut look to France and their strikes culture. They can prevent any kind of reform because people are quick to participate in a strike and that immediately cripples the government. It has no (or barely any) money of its own so the moment people stop paying they are out of options. Even your anti-riot troops won't go in to solve the situation if you cannot pay them.

They couldn't possibly enforce it. The IRS is far, far too small to enforce the scale of taxation it's tasked to deal with. It relies heavily on self-compliance.

>be canadian
>buy a house
>it's cold weather 60% of the year
>try to heat your house
>government bans wood stoves
>freeze to death
>can't riot because dead

can you add a third column for people who served their country honorably and get tuition payed + cost of living allowance (which can get fucking huge depending on where you choose to take classes) + book stipend + pell grants + 70% service connected disability for PTSD? I feel that I'm not being represented here...

people dont react because alone they are weak and easily bullied by the IRS and govt jackboots

but when people all band together and collaborate to make a raucous, then govt is forced to obey. take the black lives matter faggots for instance? how much appeasement do their little dindu families get every time one of their criminal dindus gets shot assaulting a police officer or robbing a store?

if everyone collaborated and worked together on this we could succeed in getting change

>They'll arrest you long before your movement reaches critical mass.
But this also. They squelch any type of movement before it gets off the ground because they know it's impossible to deal with once it reaches a certain point

>The IRS is far, far too small to enforce the scale of taxation it's tasked to deal with. It relies heavily on self-compliance.
exactly. i wonder why nobody charismatic has capitalized on this yet...would anyone on Sup Forums be willing to give it further brainstorming and thought in future threads?

Not just taxes, any kind of social policies, too.

>want to make some change people don't like
>say you are willing to make a compromise where you only get 10% of it while the people get none of their demands
>retards stop protesting because those 10% look a lot less worse than the 100% did
>wait a couple months
>push the original idea again
>then implement the next 10%

We even have a word for it in German, it's Salamitaktik.
Yet people keep falling for it.

>abolition of all rights of inheritance
why would you work hard if you can't create a better future for your children?

Nowadays they might also just send you their special forces, i.e. minority idpol groups. They'll make sure to fuck your movement beyond repair with their retardation and if you speak out against it the media will just label you as bigot. Works even better than just crushing it through law enforcement because it robs you of the status of underdog.

We kinda reached the point where the government learned so many dirty tricks to avoid the mistakes of the past that only pure stupidity on their side could make them lose.
Luckily, a lot of them are fairly stupid.

dailywire.com/news/12309/9-ridiculous-things-government-wasted-money-year-aaron-bandler#

>7. The famous Jaws music causes people to view sharks in a negative manner. The National Science Foundation spent $3 million on a study that concluded this, even though it's self-evident that the intense, growing sense of danger the music instills easily causes a negative association with sharks. A $3 million study on it seems a little unnecessary.

Their hope is that you'll continue working hard but instead of putting the money into assets that they have problems getting their hands on (to the same degree as for money spent on consumption) you'll just keep living paycheck to paycheck, allowing them maximum taxation by keeping the money in constant circulation.

The rule of the "people" turns out to be harsher and more exacting than the rule of any king.

welfare isnt work.

YFW when you realise the IRS is like Uncle Pauly.....Fuck You PAY ME

Socialism and democracy are inherently incompatible because people can just vote for taking other's money away/politicians can just buy votes with other people's money.

The moment you introduce socialism into your democracy you doomed it because the costs of it will only ever grow till they tip over the threshold where people riot.

B-BUT GOYI-..GUYS! Capitalism is what the Jews want! Silly goy-I mean guys. Don't you want old Schlomo to pay his (((fair share)))? Oy vey, we ought to imprison those pesky ancaps for being degenerates, right goy?

well said

Its working

Weve effectively redirected the entirety of first world economic inputs away from quantum science and genetics into smart phones and social media

What is your job

I wouldn't say "it's working", rather that the downwards trend is slow enough that they might be out of office before shit hits the fan.

If you take a look at Germany for example, we already have 16% of pensioners living below the poverty threshold. And that is predicted to increase quite dramatically in the next years, especially with the baby boomers being not too far away from retirement. And that's just one point.

Just because the system hasn't fallen apart yet doesn't mean it's sustainable. I could overspend by $300 per month for quite a while till I run into problems, and even then I could delay it a bit further by cutting expenses for maintenance on the house and so on.
That does not mean that it won't eventually fuck me over.

>welfare
>a scholarship to get a degree at a university
>that i earned serving my country sailing around the world
>on the flight deck, working nights, one of the most dangerous jobs to ever exist
>and in iraq, which in my opinion was safer than the work i did at sea

are you retarded

The goal was never production and efficiency. Productive activity can be taxed or siphoned.

Phones and social media make momey via monopolistic control and state sponsorship. It is a process that profits its owners by owning nodes of control. Their goal is to own the nodrs. Not to crrwte prosperity.

It is working as intended.

In the soviet union the soviet congress would intentionally starve towns. When the town starved it crrated a "moral mandate from the proplr" that the party muat be given more power.

Any time their power waned they created a new famine

It is working as intended

Nothing is stupider on its face than the idea social media can make money

Realistically army work is a wealth transfer because the existence of welfare pushes up the price of low level work, for example, the armed services, most of which could be done by a trained monkey.

Veterans benefits should only exist for people exposed to combat.

>salami tactic
only the Germans would have a name for sausaging someone to death

>t. Welfare queen

why don't you tell us and link it faggot

>Realistically army work is a wealth transfer

You're a retard. Civilian contractors who do 1/10th of the work of a grunt in Iraq made ten times the salary and didn't have to pay a cent of income tax.

On my side of things, we fueled our own aircraft back home and could have easily done so in the combat zone but for some reason the aforementioned civvies got this job and again were paid (in some cases literally) 10 times the amount for 1/10th the labor that a line rat/PC could have easily performed.

Dick Cheney's Halliburton, called KBR at the time, got ridiculously huge contracts to set up living quarters and infrastructure for our bases. Look up some of the problems with electrical wires frying guys in the shower and such. Why didn't the Navy Seabees and Army Corps of Engineers just do this shit?

Your ideas about what constitutes military work are not based in reality, they're based on the chip on your shoulder from having never served your country. In practice, when you privatize the work performed by enlisted personnel, the cost goes up astronomically the quality of work performed goes down because he may or may not have any sense of community or patriotism with the people he is working with out there.

I'm not trying to paint enlisted personnel or our life and work as all perfect sunshine and roses, but by and large they are good, hard-working people who are making much less than they deserve.

Yea working hard for the Jews. I laugh when you faggots claim "we served honorably" and it was hard defending our "freedom". You're just another cog in the zog machine.

Folipino fishermen do dangerous work. Why are they paid pennies? Because what they do is grueling but literally a monkey could do it.

Contractors are actually cheaper than enlisted personnel to hire because they dont get government bemefit packages, which are more expensive than they seem.

You are overpaid. I never called you lazy but you are overpaid unless you somehow believe filipino fisherman also deaerve 70k a year in package benefits

he works in product testing at the godzilla but plug factory

Of you're complaining about paying too much tax then you don't have a good accountant.