NYT- "Why the Far Right Wants to Be the New ‘Alternative’ Culture" How wrong are they?

nytimes.com/2017/06/27/magazine/why-the-far-right-wants-to-be-the-new-alternative-culture.html

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They're correct and this isn't going to change. Trump has proven himself an ineffectual stooge and cannot even attempt to solve the issues of economic vampirism, American imperialism, cultural liberalism, mass immigration or white extinction. As long as all of these problems exist and get worse, so will the new far-right counter culture. As the established political hierarchy and prevailing cultural norm continues trying to crush dissent the more radical we will become. Culture matters more than ballots and we've already won, we just don't know it yet.

They're trying to associate anarchist with us....srsly?!

>in effective
>hasn't even been in office a whole year
Really diddlys my doo.

did you really not expect this when you all voted for Trump?

Are commies mad they are not edgy any more? They still look like a bunch of freaks to me?

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Yes

the left/BYT are actually Neoliberals, as opposed to the progressive wing a la bernie sanders and green politics

true communists are scarce as hens teeth

Stop making excuses. I voted for results. DACA is a good example where he had the power to take action in his hand and floundered. So far he's no better than any other israel-worshipping warhawking Neo-con.

His campaign strategy was fresh and he was easily the best candidate to choose. I rolled the dice. More and more I realize that we're going to have to wait for an armed struggle to get anything real done.

You think destroying the democrats an the media is impressive.

Wait till I get started on the Muslims. You're going to love it. Believe me.

>anarchists
>punks
>alt-right

Wut?

>le anarchist meme

your just sexually frustrated hedonists, nothing more

These people are pretty devious. Using every trick in the book to avoid the fact that the "Far-right" is synonymous with "avoiding own genocide."

It even looks schizophrenic in writing. Good lord.

>let me tell you what to think goyim
>click my ads

go away clickbait jews

Eh, it was overwritten humanities undergraduate blather which is pretty much what I expected. He has a couple of points to make that aren't wrong but buries them. Standard NYT fare.

>Or there’s the politics community on Sup Forums, which has long been the de facto ‘‘alternative’’ to other online communities, serving as a lawless exile, a base for war with the rest of the web and, in recent years, a shockingly influential source of political memes — the closest thing the new right has to a native culture.

pol is the reincarnation of the vienesse coffee house and French/ British Salons

or in modern times, the Edgy pub or wild west saloon

or it could be conisdered a pirates tavern in the carrabean

or even mos eisley space port

some on here would probably prefer a club so they can fuck off and do drugs and fuck sluts, but then no politcs would ever be disscused, that is b

>wants to be

It already is and has been for years.

>pol
>b
>plebbit spacing

You need to go back

>muh reddit memes

great contribution to the thread, you sure make a difference in defending pol from the left

Removing the invasive reddit tumor is instrumental in preserving this board, its culture and its ability to influence mainstream culture. It doesn't matter how "woke" or "redpilled" you think you are my little ledditor, your mere presence here is destructive. Lurk for a year, purge yourself of leddit culture and then start posting. This is what people normally do when they come here anyways. Don't think you're special.

>pol is the reincarnation of the vienesse coffee house

Eh, a pity that all they serve here is the wrong kind of teabag and shitwaffles.

except i have never posted on reddit you paranooid fuck

uhhh I was told multiple times Trump was Hitler. I was expecting dead media Jews and fun camps for the commies.
WTF!?! Disappointed, Now I'm a Hillary supporter.

You're not fooling anyone. If not reddit, somewhere else. You're new is all that matters.

This is correct. Have a (you) cos you put it well.

>American imperialism
Nice job ousting yourself as a leftypol cocksucker.

IMAGINE

NIEW KONTOR KULCHER

>I like Coca Cola, McDonalds, liberalism and nigger music influencing my culture
The accusations of a limp-wristed pushover who is content to be a vassal don't matter to me.

>progressive wing a la bernie sanders and green politics

Complete corporatist stooges, if there ever were any. Every single one of their platforms serve to a direct corporations interest and benefit.

So posting content without needing credit/upvotes/likes or risking some commie calling my boss happens to spawn the best propaganda.

Cronyist, not corporatist. Cronyism is a system in which the corporations and the state exchange favors and kickbacks resulting in a swirling quagmire of corruption in both avenues of society. Corporatism is a system in which the corporations are subjugated to and collaborate with the state to maximize organizational efficiency and to allocate resources where they are needed most to improve the nation.

Dude we've exported negro culture and globalism all over the world, its time to stop.

This kind of shit is the reason why (((journalists))) get compared to terrorists so often.

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>linking jew york slimes
Did archivebot get banned or something? I havent seen him in a long time

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>Why the Far Right wants to be the new Alternative Culture

Other articles written by this guy include a diatribe about 'snowflake' as insult, which probably started here. "well fargo and the scam economy"..

we already are the emerging counter culture, all this faggot writes about is what people say on Sup Forums

Hillary is to be flayed and Obama is to be hanged.

Anarchists want a small governments Just like alt-righters, conservatives and classical liberals.

Modern liberals want a big government.

those are the neo liberals

the progressives are the break up the banks/ wallstreet types who stayed home with Hillary as candidate

Except we already are and have been for years now

Couldn't agree more. Afterwards all left-socialists are to be shot.

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>alt-righters
We want a white authoritarian ethno-state. Small government won't fix anything.

People take memes too seriously and have since the dawn of mankind. Look at how people treat god and religion for example. The far right are trying to be a counter culture to the sjw pc culture. Kekistan is essentially that with humor. What's funnier than anything is when people take them too seriously and overreact to something objectively benign. Then again there is a lot of that going on acrkss the board. If we can laugh at kekistan then we should absolutely laugh at leftists and give them no additional attention. Just laugh at them until they fuck off. We are not obligated to let them abuse their privilege of us listening to them anyway, when what they have to say is just misinformation and/or name calling.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union#Military_losses
youtube.com/watch?v=kWhdrzHYcYU

>This kind of shit is the reason why (((journalists))) get compared to terrorists so often.
??
You mean how the piece was so polarized and up it's own ass? This is the magazine, it's written for people who share a very strong consensus.

thanks user

>lose the game because you don't play objectives
>m-muh KDR ;_;
Unlike the Nazis, people actually miss East Germany.

Um, no sweatie. Far-right politics are more popular and relevant now than they have been since 1945 :) nice try though

I'd consider it more like Freemasonry in the 18th century. A place where everyone from common folk to renegade aristocrats could rub elbows in near-complete anonymity and discuss the pressing issues of the time with a degree of honesty and reason that would have been considered dangerous if uttered in the real world.

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/afd-germany-anti-immigration-party-support-lowest-level-refugee-crisis-alternative-fur-deutschland-a7655601.html

The more you research the Jewish involvement of the manipulation of the world and the people on it, the more you read in the TALMUD, the more you will understand that there is no alt right, just nerds who read and have seen the clear connection of influence and degeneracy on all levels of society.

The progressives are a perfect tools for big banks and corporations, I don't mean neoliberals, mean progressives.
Why do you think all of those big corps jumped right on the running diversity and feminism train and increased the speed, unanimously, just within a span of a single year?

Hmmmm, I am almost starting to see the difference between Gibmonism and National gibmonism.

>SJWs are progressives
You're a retard.

The social problems that caused the party to become relevant in the first place are still accelerating. Ten, twenty years ago none of this would even be a discussion. We were an absolute fringe. Now we're on the forefront, rocketing ahead of you and there is nothing you can do to stop it. As the arrogance of the political and economic elite classes mounts, as the middle class shrinks from their own neglect of duty, we grow. We are the true champions of the working class Western man. The left is the side of the invaders, the bourgeois college-age latte sippers. You and I both know they're not real Marxists, but they're all you have. I'd hate to be as lonely as you.

>Now we're on the forefront, rocketing ahead of you and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
dat delusion tho

Your link is completely irrelevant, AfD are clons, not in any way right wingers.

Here is better link

http:/www.communistswines.co.ck/nottinnew/why-are-most-commies-upper-class-trash-5uckd1ck.html

>counter culture conservatives

I coined this like 6 months ago
And it's true
Welcome to the new 60s

How many times did you hear the media mention the term 'alt-right' during the election cycle?

that gay fucking flag though
>dat delusion tho
your nigger is showing

double digit IQ cult of personality subhuman detected.

he could have repealed DACA 1 minute after being inaugurated, instead Paul Ryan was on CNN townhall telling crying spics they didnt have to go back

even "cuckservative" number 1 Ben Shapiro called for DACA repeal so you can't hide behind your usual excuse

>only spencerfags neonazis care about DACA xd!!!111

There is not a single progressive who isn't SJW moron who constantly shits on the working class.

You can have social welfare systems that don't reward and incentivize parasitism. Believe it or not, a man can be poor out of victimization or forces beyond his control. The people destroying our countries aren't a scheming underclass of disgruntled workers. They're CEOs and big name politicians forming lobby groups and NGOs.

>gibsmedat (for whites only)

he's getting the scum out first, ICE isn't gigantic (yet)

>which probably started here
"Special snowflake" is older than Sup Forums.

>WANTS to be the new alternative culture
Motherfucker we ARE, and precisely because Jew snakes and CIA operatives like the ones at the New York Times had so thoroughly censored and filtered out our viewpoint and politics from American discourse for damn near 100 years. The anger, resentment and rage built up and reached more people until it boiled over. The Internet has ruined these propaganda artists and it absolutely needed to happen. We are at the brink of disaster already because of hyper-liberal idiocy, namely 14th Amendment/forced multiculturalism and the looming demographic change.

>referred to as the ‘‘pro-Trump media,’’ or in the formulation of the BuzzFeed News reporter Charlie Warzel, the ‘‘upside down’’ — a reference to the nightmarish parallel dimension of Netflix’s camp horror series ‘‘Stranger Things.’’

Everything is related to some bullshit fiction. It's an obsession.

He's gotta do it fast.

Can't have it both ways, establishment faggots. We own the counter-culture until we become the establishment (after our march through the institutions).

That's just "native advertising". Look at how many names he drops, the entire piece reads like marketing because they can't understand the world any other way. They certainly don't want it to *be* any other way.

>Why the Far Right Wants to Be the New ‘Alternative’ Culture

The far right IS alternative culture. It's outside the mainstream, hated by the establishment and getting more popular among the youths as a sign of rebellion.

I know MAYNSTREEM MEYTEOR tried to make this point and he's a ridiculous cunt, but Sup Forums is a good bellwether because it's always contrarian to mainstream, it used to be heavily left, then heavily libertarian and is now far right for the most part.

Right wing memes and ideas hit the mainstream hard, people get outraged but they have no good rebuttals other than rejection.

If you're older, it gets to be really funny watching this. When I was young people were still in a left wing punk kind of ideal, fighting conservatives, fighting christians.. but they don't seem to realize they won this fight long ago. They've been in control for a good while. They just haven't produced jack shit and they've shown themselves to be just as bad as the people they replaced.

On and on the pendulum swings.

>pic

They took leftism to it's logical conclusion.

>wants

Or you could get into local politics and start making shit happen. Get on the local schoolboard and uncuck the curriculum.

THIS THIS THIS

god dammit even just volunteering for environmental clean up/ handyman work would help the country at this point

>get into local politics and start making shit happen

This is the most effective thing you can do. In fact if you follow political podcasts they're talking a lot about how successful this has been for Republicans and how Dems are so far behind on local politics they'll have trouble winning in the future, despite having demographics in their favour.

This because gerrymandering and local politics have huge effects in the macro scale that defy the demographic trends.

And if you hate both Republicans and Democrats as you should, the only real way to get jack shit done in the US is on a local level. Do the Ron/Rand Paul thing and adopt the mantle of a party if you must, but as far as enacting policy, the most freedom you will have is at lower levels.

>it used to be heavily left, then heavily libertarian and is now far right for the most part.

As an old old Sup Forumstard I don't understand why people don't understand. Sup Forums was never any of that. It's just a meeting space for people, and all of the groups have always been here. The problem is that you think it's contrarian because that's the only place you'll see unPC speech made when it's censored everywhere else. During the Bush years it was the only place to be really far left, so you think that's what it is, but there were people bitching about niggers and the gold standard and jews then too. Then Ron Paul runs and is shut out of the media entirely, they refuse to mention him, so his fans have to come here and you think Sup Forums is libertarian. Now far right rhetoric is being shut down across the internet so they can only come here, and now you think Sup Forums is no longer anti-war left or libertarian.

The Jordan Peterson video about KEK, particularly the end, is very accurate.

>Being a straight white nationalistic male is that same as being a degenerate anacho-faggot was a few decades ago...
I can't tell if this is a good development or a sigh of the end times

In fact, it's about time the "alt-right" infiltrated both parties and started bringing them back to reality, or at least disrupted the worst of their shitty plans. Why make our own brand when we can easily steal their brands? It worked well enough for the marxists.

The best part of local politics, too, is that most elections run unopposed or even without any candidates. It'd be trivial for even ugly Sup Forums nerds to get elected and start pushing sensible policy. The only thing that's missing is organization, and that WILL NOT come from the popular alt-right figures because they're all coopted anyway. It'll have to come from the bottom up.

People aren't allowed to miss the Nazis or they go to jail. People are brainwashed into missing East Germany because the Stasi took over the government and media.

its not even the parties

its this consulting class in washington DC, the big money, the think tanks, the donors and academics AND THE MOTHER FUCKING MEDIA they live in elitist bubbles

lol they're mad and shitting it. they know they're losing

youtube.com/watch?v=cF3Eb5ReGSA
Fucking jews

Sign of the end times

We're really in agreement with each other. Maybe I didn't make it clear.

>Why make our own brand when we can easily steal their brands?

Indeed. In fact the media were the big push behind the "alt right" label and they continue to be. They want a convenient sticker to slap WRONGTHINK on all dissenters.

You see this in practice when they label people who openly proclaim to be liberals and want liberal things as "far right/alt right". The media lefties don't want people to realize that the defectors are coming from all over the spectrum. They need the left/right, good/bad dichotomy, because they can't defend their positions with fact or argument.

>The only thing that's missing is organization, and that WILL NOT come from the popular alt-right figures because they're all coopted anyway.

This is very true. Anyone suckered in and calling themselves alt-right is furthering the mainstream agenda and narrative.