These are the only books ive read that I feel specifically pertain to economics/politics (beyond syllabus-material)
What other books should I read?
Also, general "books pol reads"-thread. Let's see if most of pol still reads books, or if this board has been infested with complete morons
ok confirmed pol is dead
Read the new testament
"The Road to Ruin" by James Rickards is a good one.
sounds interesting. far more interesting than all those 1000 year old books that everyone recommends.
can you tell me abit about the dude who wrote it, or whats the deal? like, how i know the guy is "legit" or whatever?
moron
also, i did
it made me agnostic
gulag archipelago
>GG&S
okay, now read "Why Nations Fail" and "The Wealth and Poverty of Nations"
He's very similar to Peter Schiff in his views - a free market and sound money proponent. One of his major predictions is that the coming financial crisis will lead to the end of the Dollar as the reserve currency and the IMF's SDR basket will take its place.
Guns Germs and Steel is meme reddit garbage
i mean it sounds neat, but... is it long? it sounds kinda in-depth on something very specific
>"Why Nations Fail"
its there in my OP, senpai. i just finished it, actually
>"The Wealth and Poverty of Nations"
noted, thanks
>similar to Peter Schiff
sold
thanks dude, ill check it out. probably would never have heard of it otherwise
I recommend the following
Antifragile by Taleb
1914 the year the world ended- Paul ham
Kissenger and the ascent of money by Nail Ferguson
A conflict of visions by Thomas Sowell
Read Samuel Huntington's "The Clash of Civilizations" one giant red pill on international politics.
Also, "Guns, Germs, and Steel" is an empty shell of a work. It's over simplistic and incredibly biased in favor of a Leftist view of the world. Diamond seems to ignore the issue of race at all costs in favor of his thesis.
This. The author is probably a kike who kept saying it was racist to say papua new gunieans were dumb but in the next sentence spoke about how white people were dumb because they dont know how to survive in the forest.
im not dismissing what you guys are saying, but i am curious as to whether or not you guys have actually read it?
>"The Clash of Civilizations"
ive read large excerpts from it, and its interesting, but i feel like ive gotten the shtick? im writing it down on my list, anyway. thanks
alright thanks dude
>Jarred "Lechaiem" Diamond
>mfw
another similar, but slightly older, one is Mike Maloney's "Guide to Investing in Gold and Silver" which details much of the same instabilities with the current economic system and also gives tips on how to protect your wealth. A free PDF copy can be found here:
goldsilver.com
And he covers some of the recent developments in this video:
Being NatSoc, I'm big into biology. So I recommend
>Before the Dawn
General history of humanity
>The Ten Thousand Year Explosion
a look at the measurable evolution of man in the Holocene, including an interesting analysis of the Jews
>The Selfish Gene
A great way to understand one form of evolution beyond Darwinian natural selection (which actually does not occur in sexual species) and to understand the roots of altruism, ethnocentrism, and general biology.
>Any book on Game Theory here
Game theory is very necessary to understanding quantifiable strategic thinking, and is important for understanding many phenomena in competitive systems.
>Evolution and the Theory of Games
Another mathematical primer, but also good for understanding why natural selection doesn't always mean survival of the "fittest"
>Frozen Evolution
An incredible (thought contested) book combining the theories of Dawkins and the theories of John Maynard Smith into a cohesive understand of how evolution progresses.
>Separation and Its Discontents
Just a good book on Jewish evolutionary strategies and how Nazi politics mirrored them in many ways. Uses outdated theory but is still largely applicable.
alright, i downloaded the pdf. seems like a fairly quick read. cheers!
whoever seems as redpilled as peter schiff is worth listening to, in my opinion. i just feel like people like him lack "promotion", because of their anti-establishment financial ideology
alright ive written them all down. cheers dude
I have always thought that nat socs put to much emphasis on biology and not enough on culture. I am not saying that biology has no affect but I think it's more intertwined with culture .
Trend of Economic Thinking - Hayek
i agree
you should maybe consider reading "why nations fail" and some other stuff in order to gain a more nuanced perspective on global inequality. not that what ive read is "better" than your suggestions, but if youve tended to read books that fit within your confirmation-bias, then maybe you should read something outside of it as well?
Starship Troopers should be considered mandatory redpills reading than famalam
Any of these.
>i mean it sounds neat, but... is it long? it sounds kinda in-depth on something very specific
It's very long but the abridged is only like 600 pages. It's about the gulag but it's actually about human nature uses how people are under authoritarian systems without rhe rule of law to explore the concepts of doing good and the struggle between the good and bad part of yourself.
It's insanely well written and I was reading 150 pages at a time when I read it the first time, absolutely ridiculously good book.
it's three books i think, but there is an abridged version
The books I recommend don't really deal with those issues and are more to do with economic developments and history, should also add paper promises to the list now that I think about it
ok you made it sound interesting. ill probably read it then. cheers
>fiction
i dno, man. i feel like the movie kinda got the message across sufficiently?
A lot of people recommend The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer. Although it's very thorough, Shrier's bias are fairly evident. If you have ever read his Berlin Diaries, you can see his disdain for Hitler and most Germans during the period. Read Toland's Adolf Hitler instead (in the pic). It's 2 volumes, but a good read. Probably the most objective you are going to find.
i wasnt talking about your list, i was talking about
>Guns, Germs & Steel
Come on mate
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ok i get it, and why nations fail is actually a decent retort to it, and i get that guns germs & steel goes against the general ideological wave found on Sup Forums (and im not entirely sold on anything i read in any books), but has anyone here who criticizes the book here ACTUALLY READ IT?
And I've read Guns, Germs and Steel and I would say the biggest mistake that Jared Diamond makes is disregarding the evolution of mankind following the exodus from Africa in 75kya.
Also, his points regarding the uncommon domesticability of European fauna is silly when you realize that the species that he is referring to are the already domesticated species. Wild horses such as the Tarpan and the Przewalski's horse do not exhibit docility and are highly analogous in behavior and ferocity of Zebras. Aurochs in Europe, too, are violent and deadly. What made them so docile following breeding is the breeding they endured after being tamed and kept.
Regarding the completeness of protein in various diets extractable from agriculture, there may be something there, but I find it hard to believe that a geographical region can support a human population (protein completeness and calorie-wise) but that those flora and fauna that provide for that population are not modifiable or farmable.
Regarding his theory of "expansive connected agricultural zone", there is actually likely something to that, but I would say it is not the ideas of agriculture and animal husbandry (and eventually civilization) but the genetics and tribes responsible for those innovations that actually spread. (For an example, only 9000 years ago, the majority of Europe was populated by dark-skinned and black, curly-haired (but blue eyed) hunter gatherers. After the agricultural revolution in the middle east, we see the rapid spread of pale-skinned (due to a lack of vitamin d in their diet) agricultural people across Europe and Asia. This was not a spread of ideas of farming, but rather an invasion and replacement by the children of those farming peoples into the territory of the hunter-gatherers. This is evidenced in genetic testing of ancient European DNA and is a well known phenomena that Diamond completely ignores, chocking up the differences in the phenotypes of man to "sexual selection".
Is Why Nations Fail any good? I'm also looking for something to read. Just picked up adderall supply for a week.
CHARLES MURRAY
>BY THE PEOPLE
LARRY SILVERGLATE
>THREE FELONIES A DAY
GENE HEALY
>GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL
RICHARD EPSTEIN
>HOW PROGRESSIVES REWROTE THE CONSTITUTION
These books are about all American law and specifically how lefties screw it up, but a Euro will find much that is relevant and amusing.
>the author is probably a kike
His last name is (((Diamond))) he is a lying kike who thinks zebras can't be tamed.
It's been debunked a hundred times here. I don't have the caps though. Someone might.
alright, fair arguments. its been 3 years since i read it so the whole "gist" has kindof just been absorbed into the back of my head, but ill see if i can find some article that goes even further in-depth about criticizing it, because its interesting. as i said in my previous post, "Why nations fail" does touch on that criticizm somewhat.
id say yes
it gets its point across in the first 100 pages, and then spends the next 400 pages really nailing the point home, but its an important thing to really understand in any form of politics and economics (the point being that individual societal members need sufficient incentive for manufacturing capital, otherwise the country doesnt produce shit, and goes to shit)
GgS is what happens when lefties depend on rhetoric, let alone logic, to rein in their own data.
I read GgS. It's shit. Guy literally admits in a critical passage that about twenty Spaniards cut off from any support (and without the celebrated native allies) viciously owned the united host of a continental empire greater than any contemporary European nation.
If that's not superiority then nothing is.
of the 8 books in my OP, i would actually recommend "how an economy grows and why it crashes" the strongest. you might feel silly reading it (its sort of a big metaphor), but its... complex economic understanding made very understandable
>oy vey goyim read my book
Sorry, Moshi. Niggers are just retarded and couldn't learn to domesticate animals that whites could easily tame and ride.
Have you read John Perkins' "Economic Hit Man" or Ha-Joon Chamg's critiques of capitalism?
I can't really into philosophical texts. I lack the critical thinking. It sucks because I want to get into that sort of work, think I might just stick to historical texts.
>"Economic Hit Man"
ive been recommended that one before, but it got lost in the back of my mind because i think theres some questions as to whether or not its all bullshit? otherwise, it does sound very interesting
>Ha-Joon Chamg's critiques of capitalism?
nope
i wrote down the books from your previous post btw
but ive gotten a long-ass list now. what do you recommend the strongest?
>WNF - Worthless Drivel
>(((Peter Schiff)))
>(((Peter Schiff)))
>(((Jared Diamond))) (check archive for GG&S criticism)
>Machiavelli - Good and practical, much about not being a trusting fool.
>R4R - Know thine enemy, valuable read
>Heyek - Never read it
>$arnegie - How to Spend money and time on people and keep copious notes so you can buy influence; surprisingly worthless book
Buy a book on options trading of stocks and options trading on futures.
Well, I look to biology as a direction for where culture should head. If the strategy of your culture diverges from the direction biology demands, than your culture is doomed to be replaced by cultures more in line with biological demands.
I don't read biology to look for reasons why the my people is superior, I look to biology as a way to understand how my people can become superior, if that makes sense. I don't love my people because they are the better people, I love them because they are my people, the same way I love my little sister even though she's kind of an airhead, and I love my brothers even though they take too many risks. Biology is a means to long term (on the scale of millenia) success.
I'll check out "Why Nations Fail". As far as confirmation bias, the books I've listed MADE me a national socialist. I was not a National Socialist until I read Frozen Evolution (though the inkling was there after reading Dawkins, in fact, I read Frozen Evolution on the hopes that his theory would be *against* ethnocentrism and exclusive breeding, as it has been said to overturn Dawkin's Theory in some ways. However, that is not the case).
I just really love biology. I don't find economics nearly as interesting.
The Black Swan by Nassim Nicholas Taleb
i have a job with a high salary. im probably never gonna be bothered to invest for shit, i just want to win arguments (which is also necessary for my job). but the first book of all the ones suggested here im gonna read is probably gonna be "The Road to Ruin: The Global Elites' Secret Plan for the Next Financial Crisis", which sounds like it fits within your suggestion
fair enough
Perkins Perkins Perkins read Perkins read him now
tldr
>be Harvard-educated economist
>get a job with the IMF and World Bank
>go to third world dictator's office
>it turns out he's actually a pretty good guy, he doesn't just want to parasite off of his people, he wants to improve standard of living
>nope
>take this IMF loan and buy yourself a dozen Ferraris
>but I don't want go do that, my country cannot pay those loans back, I said I want go help--
>what's that? You said you want to help your al-Qaeda kill Americans?
+ Antifragile and any articles or tweets you find from this guy
/thread
Joon is a bit of a hack through, he states that the washing machine has had more effect on the world then the internet. Also he overstates how much regulation existed in the past by quite a margin
I'd recommend anti-fragile before fooled by randomness before the black swan. The black swan is interesting if you are into financial markets and statistics but it's effectively an appendix to Talebs thinking laid out in Anti-fragile.
ok Economic Hit Man is now second on my list. Its not long either, so ill probably read it soon. Thanks, dude
noted, cheers
The Elite use banking and investment strategies to continue to tax the world economy. Knowing how FOREX, options, futures and all the ways money can be invented from nothing opens your eyes to that world.
I don't care how big your income is, you can't stay rich without knowing how money moves.
Taleb really is the motherfucking living red pill. It is hilarious to watch him roll Nate Silver.
well, any specific recommendations then?
if peter schiff had any more books, i wouldve read them already. the problem is figuring out which authors to trust BEFORE giving them my money
The Death Of The West - Patrick J. Buchanan
Capitalism & Freedom - Milton Friedman
Economics In One Lesson - Henry Hazlitt
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>I don't care how big your income is, you can't stay rich without knowing how money moves.
This isn't true. You can make it a lot easier for yourself with greater knowledge but having a high income and putting a substantial amount aside for obvious and safe investments can make you wealth rich and stay rich perpetually.
It depends on how rich you want to be and how much risk you are willing to take.
"Leviathan" by Hobbes, that shit was my first step into the redpill... thank god is required reading on the first year of International Studies
get on my level you plebs
It's very good, a little bit complicated if you don't have any notion of political science/international relations but I know you know your politics (well atleast I want to think so, you are on Sup Forums after all) I recommend it alot,I still don't know why it isn't required reading in many social sciences schools
>DoTW but no CofC
why?
If you liked Leviathan you might want to check out the modern Michael Oakeshott. He edited the most recent edition of Leviathan and is a widely respective philosopher of conservative ideology.
cofc?
>all those uncracked bindings
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>Lost Victories, Erich Von Manstein (most competent German General from WW2 imo)
>Enemy at the Gate. (Battle of Vienna)
Working on Reading Law right now by Antonin Scalia.
That's nothing to be proud of unless you're like 16-17 or just only started reading recently, just a collection of mostly meme books (many of which are decent)
I've been reading heavily for a pretty long time and have upwards of 400-500 books that I have read and I still own, and I've given many away to friends or second hand stores if they weren't worth keeping.
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I keep seeing that book being shilled on Sup Forums
I ordered it a while ago but it's taking forever to ship.
Going to read huwhite power by george lincoln rockwell soon though
i want hitlers war but can't find it in any bookstores in syd
a lot of "typical" older, somewhat outdated, theoretical stuff, it appears to me
also, you clearly havent read most of those. they all appear to be in perfect condition
not to say you HAVENT read a lot. good for you, i wish more people on pol had that collection, but... well, i have a fuckton of books, but i recently started having a specific section for the ones ive ACTUALLY read
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Sup Forums doesn't really read books. All these people know are 20 hour documentaries on YouTube from 1980.
Yeah i haven't read most of them, as I've just ordered them recently.
/lit/ & Sup Forums is what got me into reading.
I've only picked up the hobby since last year
It's literally a fully study on Jewish influences and behaviours in the modern world citing sources, its a full comprehensive study. Literally shows the whole "Jews are behind everything" thing to be true.
im betting my left rib that you havt read the whole wealth of nations
Thomas Sowell
>I keep seeing that book being shilled on Sup Forums
dude which one are you referring to? im curious
written down, cheers
..really?
I look forward to reading it then
also to OP, here's a massive collection of Sup Forums related books:
same here, in a metaphisical and metapolitical sense, so much biology IMO gives you a very deterministic view of the world
also on the topic of Biology vs Culture, I recommend Beyond Good and Evil by good ol' Friedrich Nietzche, I'm currently reading it and fuck this bastard knows how to make me laugh, think and be sad about the ultimate realizations of human kind at the same time.
Also obligatory Thus Spake Zarathustra recommendation
Checked
CoC
I still never read Leviathan. Studied about the book in a couple courses though.
between toland and irving, which one would you recommend, considering toland is far easier to obtain
dude i tried reading all that stuff, the older shit... wealth of nations, etc. the "imdb top 250"-equivalent of political books.... i stopped reading most of them after a while. maybe im just a moron, but theyre all really abstract and philosophical and seemingly somewhat outdated. the only one of them i really liked is The Prince. i would maybe try some more recent shit, like a lot of whats been posted in this thread
still, your collection is dank. power to ya
cheers
Haven't even started it yet. It's like 1000+ pages. I'll read it eventually though
After reading this I can't tell if stoicism is a virtuous way of life or glorified detachment from the world. Either way I've picked up some good lessons from this book, it's a regular recommendation by Sup Forums.
fuck you I'm trying
It's a pretty good read. I also have these two but I haven't read them yet. I got them all at a local book store, Half Priced Books. I'm pretty sure I got them all for $9.
My brother studied philosophy & psyche in uni (in b4 meme degrees) & he has the entire collection of plato's & aristotle's works. Easily two of the best books i've ever read. If you read those two books in their entirety you're basically already redpilled. No amount of postmodern relativistic thinking can phase you after that
The wealth of nations is actually a fantastic read and I really enjoyed it. Led me to reading A theory of moral sentiments as well which was great.
I read it whilst travelling nearly 4 years ago and I ended up having a chat with an economics PhD who was working with the IMF on Greece's debt crisis at a cafe because he was impressed I was as far into it as I was. He was a lot smarter than me so I'm surprised he struggled to get far into it.
Leviathan Thomas Hobbes
Really excellent discussion of Jews (with many book recommendations) here
>detachment from the world
That's not really what stoicism is. Stoics believe in a fulfilling life that includes one's participation in social and civic duties.
If the ideology interests you go beyond reading just Meditations. It was never meant as an introductory text, and can be better appreciated once you have the fundamentals.
damn thats a fantastic deal. jealous. amazon is runnning for 80ish. have been fascinated with irving recently, he's coming out with a churchill and himmler bio soon too
That bookstore is redpilled as fuck if they're selling Irving
Very important point. Consider the black coffee in Twin Peaks. Surely heavily sweetened coffee is more "detached from the world"?
>Germs Andy steel
>The Bell Curve
Pick one faggot.
Once I actually read an Irving book I stopped questioning how he was a bestselling writer. The guy was born with a typewriter, he can just crank it out, you look up and three hours have gone by.
You're right, I worded my post horribly.
Also thanks user, I'm going to read Letters from a Stoic tonight.