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>The Russian military mocked Britain's new aircraft carrier on Thursday, saying the HMS Queen Elizabeth presented "a large convenient target" and would be wise to keep its distance from Moscow's warships.
SHOTS FUCKING FIRED
RUSSIA CALLS HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH "AN EASY TARGET"
Eli Campbell
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Michael Morales
Are carriers useful in a major war?
Owen Baker
If you're an island, yes
Alexander Russell
is your brain not switched on?
Gabriel Moore
A
FUCKING
RAMP
Henry White
>a fucking ramp
Jordan Thompson
Of course they are retard, fucking read a book.
Matthew Gomez
>Russians
>talking shit about carriers
They claim to be a "superpower" yet have to buy ships from France... And they can't even get those because they got BTFO by sanctions.
>mfw Egypt has a larger carrier fleet then slavshits
Noah Bailey
How come I Russia always says shit is a sitting target or just a sitting duck or easy target or any of that shit? Do they not know that their shit sucks worse?
Alexander Allen
if you're imperialist yes, otherwise it's better to just use the money to bribe weaker powers in whatever area is of interest in exchange for military bases. Look at Russia and Tartus
Aaron Ramirez
I dunno if there ever will be another major war. If there was then it would be over in minutes anyway.
They must be pretty usefull when it comes to suppressing revolutions and shitty countries though.
Luke Turner
They are essential in offensive wars away from your own borders
Kayden Rogers
Carriers help establish air supremacy, which allows you to fuck up supply lines, which is what wins major wars.
Jacob Myers
Dog who barks loudest looks fiercest
Russian saber rattling is nothing new, it is part of their culture
Logan Murphy
RUSSIA STRONG
Carter Flores
What's so funny about ramps guys. I don't get it.
Cameron Fisher
>tfw your missile cruisers are so badass other nations call them "carriers"
Xavier Reyes
>brits sperg out with Russia will be jealous about their carrier
>our military than proceeds to sperg about "easy target"
When we will be able hang all these idiots?
Colton Gonzalez
okay, since the carrier is probably not hooked up to the net
I don't think XP is going to be that much of a vulnerability
Asher Gomez
Russia's power projection is on par with fucking Italy. KYS slavshit.
Jaxon Ortiz
That's a Big Ship
Ryan Lee
>Missiles can hit a square metre
>Implying a big boat is any diferent to other boats
>Literally just had to solve 10 captchas even though I did all of them fine
Liam Martin
Russia is a pretty big fucking target too.
;^)
Colton James
>translation
There are only subs and targets in the blue water.
Josiah Brooks
Against inferior foes, yes
Against capable foes with hypersonic anti-ship missiles, no
Jaxon Ross
>They claim to be a "superpower" yet have to buy ships from France...
So?
You'd have to be retarded to buy from the Jew owned US military industry
Ayden Jackson
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good one ruskies, holy shit, top notch banter but in all seriousness your Aircraft carrying missile cruiser is a joke that needs to be put out of its misery
Nolan Lee
Bring back the Lun you faggot.
Justin Collins
Just enable legacy captcha, britbro. No more clicking minigames and shit.
Hudson Johnson
Only if you can defend them.
We must never forget what happened to all those badass navy ships that became redundant in WW1.
Sebastian Green
>27 Oct 2016 - Russia's only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, has set sail for Syria. The vessel is leaving a long and unhealthy trail of smoke in its wake.
popularmechanics.com
>Russian MiG-29K from Adm. Kuznetsov aircraft carrier has crashed in Mediterranean sea
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>A SECOND Russian jet has crashed into the Mediterranean as it attempted to land on aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov, it is claimed.
thesun.co.uk
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the world quakes at the mighty record of the russian navy
Jeremiah Garcia
I'm sure we could just take a page out of Russia's book and keep deep water tugs near by to tow her to safety
Cruiser*
Thomas Barnes
But wait, there's more.
>according to new satellite imagery, Admiral Kuznetsov, the Russian aircraft carrier sailing off the coast of Syria, has dispatched nearly its entire fighter jet inventory (eight Su-33s and one MiG-29KR) to Moscow-controlled Hmeimim Air Base in Syria. The move comes after the loss of a new MiG-29KR — one of Russia’s most advanced fighter aircraft — as it was waiting to recover aboard the carrier following a mission over Syrian territory. The Admiral Kuznetsov had just been on station for just a few days before the loss occurred.
>Can Putin’s Aircraft Carrier Stay Afloat on Its Syria Mission?
foreignpolicy.com
>Russia begins military withdrawal from Syria
Admiral Kuznetsov carrier and other ships will be first to leave, says military chief, in line with reduction ordered by Putin
theguardian.com
Spends 2 months sailing there, gets there, two ships crash into the fucking ocean, offload all the other jets then go home.
Gabriel Gomez
You're trying too hard. Russians, like nobody else, knows that Kuznetsov is useless junk and our Navy is a joke. But same can be said about modern Royal Navy as well.
Anthony Phillips
bants
Daniel Nguyen
The Russians say a lot of things
William King
Except that the Royal Navy isn't a joke, is modern and is building constantly.
Currently we're building TWO aircraft carriers, the most advanced outside of the US, a new fleet of Ballistic missile submarines to replace our last ballistic missile submarines that were already very modern and built in 1994, world class Attack submarines that are on par in some and superior to the Virginia class in many ways and a brand new fleet of 13+ frigates to go with our already incredibly advanced AA destroyers.
On top of that we're the only class 1 partners of the F-35 program in the world, buying 140 of them so far with more planned.
Owen Hughes
>Russia talking shit about other peoples' navies
Austin Scott
>Britcuckistan Stronk
Kek
Do you sincerely believe you can take on russki?
Eurocuck are absofuckijgly hopeless and will never learn until they are in nuclear ashes, since apparently they didn't learn up from the middle ages.
William Smith
Russians are making it really hard for anyone to defend them.
Hopefully they get so full of themselves that they starve to death.
Dylan Perez
The UK would not loose a war against russia, they have no means to attack our island or land troops, there navy and air force would be destroyed.
Angel Green
>not having a ramp
How would the planes even take off? lmao
Justin Foster
You're *
Justin Lopez
I've got no problem with Russian's rattling the proverbial sabers at us, it's all fun and games in global geopolitics.
Quick question though; How do you make an aircraft carrier that ISN'T a big target?
Parker Cooper
Steam powered slingshot
Adam Hall
>Do I believe Uk can take on Russia
I don't believe anyone can take on anyone with any credible Nuclear armed delivery systems.
Russia has the most nuclear missiles on the planet, attacking russia seriously would end the world
America has enough to do the same
France has enough to at least wipe out any country on the planet
UK has enough to do the same but does not have as many delivery methods although her SSBN's are superior.
India is working towards it's own SSBN but for now she can annihilate cities of any country within it's considerable range.
Pakistan is the same as India
Israel is the same as India and pakistan
I'm not sure about China but I'd assume she is on par with at least France if not closer to America.
Stop thinking in stupid terms, nuclear weapons have ended serious warfare between nuclear armed states as we've known it before.
Lucas Cook
i think russian airforce is fine tho
only their navy sucks.
Jackson Richardson
Alien predator style cloaking device, gooduck with that
Oliver Price
Make one into a giant submarine. That would be fucking awesome. Surface, catapult a few jets/drones out of your launch tubes and disappear.
Josiah Evans
Yes but they would not be able to field it in large numbers in British airspace.
Josiah Carter
>I dunno if there ever will be another major war. If there was then it would be over in minutes anyway.
Never heard this one before.
Parker Wright
>They must be pretty usefull when it comes to suppressing revolutions and shitty countries though.
This.
If you don't have serious missile tech then the Carrier Battlegroup is the weapon platform of choice for imposing your will, either diplomatically, logistically or with bombs n shieet
Lucas Robinson
>the craps ripps of its claw cuz i will be regenerated
nature is sure scary
Brayden Stewart
Russia would get obliterated if they ever went to war with the UK. For a start they would need to get across Europe to actually get to Britain, and that just isn't happening. Even in a straight war between UK and Russia, the UK are far more advanced and much better trained. The Russians would get dominated.
The Russians have no way to mobilize their army in time, it would be a slaughter.
Austin Reed
lol even though i'm from an EU, you are like aggressive little boys Ahmed, you are lucky to have your stronger (but cowardly cucking) big brother - otherwise you are like ... two days of work bitch
Leo Murphy
They only have 1 aircraft carrier, so they would need to sit that off the coast of Britain to do any air attacks. And it would get sunk.
Nolan Perry
WHO said it? Sources say someone said something or other
FAKE FUCKING NEWS
Lincoln Watson
Mate there is a single nation on this earth who could actually invade the UK and they would take horrific casualties. the UK is a fucking fortress your only chance is to starve us out and hope we cant grow enough food for our people.
Wyatt Reyes
Who is our cowardly big brother? If you mean the US they're technically our son.
Hudson Davis
that's a good point, they also are kinda broke with all the sanctions.
but atleast their territory is very safe against foreign invasors.
Ryan Taylor
50 years ago they were. Only the next war will tell. like someone else said in WW2 most countries still thought battleships were the most important part o a fleet.
Josiah James
As if we would ever be stupid enough to leave it by itself with no destroyers or submarines
Sebastian Hughes
No, get rid of it immediately
Anthony Powell
so how many USA crashes do I have to list before you acknowledge this is normal?
Jose Ward
STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT
STOP TALKING ABOUT MODERN WARFARE AS IF IT DOESN'T INCLUDE MODERN INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILES!
This isn't 1918 anymore, we don't march anywhere. If there was every a reason to go to war with Russia then the ruskies could put 1000's of nuclear armed warheads on every one of your cities dozens of times overs
Stop roleplaying it would be like ww2 faggots, even India could lay waste to any city from anywhere in asia, including moscow.
Robert Cruz
Don't respond to larpers lads, they're bottom of the barrel posters
Jackson Nguyen
More than zero and at least two on a current deployment, within the last 6 months and within two weeks of each other.
Blake King
Oh look a Chinese junk boat
Jaxon Morris
I'm waiting for this war with Russia to start for 4 years.
Enough of waiting
Grayson Brooks
The UK has enough nukes to lay waste to any strategically important city in Russia anyway. They also have trident so even if Russia got first strike they would be fucked anyway.
Anthony Jackson
I like a video that BPS did on the subject.
While they are very useful in theory for their abilities to establish air superiority, they would very likely never actually be deployed in a war scenario, due to the massive amounts of cost needed to build and maintain them. Loosing one would be devastating for the navy, so the ones in command would never truly commit to utilising them, and thus they loose a lot of their value. And that's not to mention the 3000 sailors and pilots who would go down with the ship.
And for nations other than the US this is a lot more relevant, since they don't have many carriers and loosing one when you only have 2 would mean you have no replacement.
Kevin Rogers
Only against un or underdeveloped countries for force projection purposes. Carriers are super vulnerable against anyone on equal footing.
Bentley Hernandez
> modern and is building constantly
> most advanced outside of the US
> borrowing SLBMs from US Navy.
> buying ASMs and cruise missiles from US
> Britain’s Harpoons will be withdrawn soon with no replacement in sight
> theregister.co.uk
> HMS Dunkan sent to intercept Kuznetsov
> got broken and has to be towed to base
telegraph.co.uk
> Royal Navy's entire fleet of attack submarines out of action
> independent.co.uk
> Currently we're building TWO aircraft carriers
> none of which would have defensive weapon whatsoever
> no angle deck
> STOBAR
BRITANNIA RULE THE WAVES!
Gavin Jackson
I agree.
See
There will never be a real and actual war between the nuclear armed countries every again unless there is a sure 100% way to stop Nuclear armed missiles.
The only thing left is posturing and proxy wars with shitty arab countries.
Jose Miller
Revolutions can't be suppressed from the air. You need boots on the ground.
Having a bomb land on a bunch of revolutionaries would make amazing propaganda and martyrs for the revolution.
Jason Nguyen
Our entire history is continental powers underestimating us as an isolated island, they never learn until it's too late
Wyatt King
What have Russia ever actually done? Apart from an annoying smelly piece of shit land mass to the East of modern civilization.
I really fucking hate Russia.
Evan Reyes
>They claim
i would need a proof on that, comrade
Carson Taylor
>UK navy
Adrian Johnson
Well, they are right.
Aircraft carriers are obsolete when it comes to war between major powers - they are massively expensive, have huge crews, and the loss of one would be an instantaneous national tragedy.
Aircraft carriers continue to be built because they let you bomb 3rd world shitholes with virtually no risk.
Colton Walker
>US watching 2 midgets fight each other.wmv
Hudson Davis
>1488
Nice
Aiden Taylor
Wow, that's sure is a load of nothing you posted. Hope it didn't take too long to gather.
The Astutes are world class, the Trafalgar are being replaced.
The Harpoons are being replaced in a program with France, each ship carries Harpoon launchers with their stockpile of missiles, NO NEW MISSILES ARE BEING MADE is all that means.
HMS Duncan is currently on deployment, not sure what you mean she is broken.
The aircraft carriers carry aircraft and have CIWS with enough power to warrant any future upgrades, but as anyone with a credible knowledge of naval matters knows the power is in the support ships to defend the carrier.
No angle deck (it's not needed)
I don't think you know what a STOBAR stands for, but I assume you mean arrestor wires, which again isn't required.
Jackson Hernandez
Its volatile when the worlds only superpower is on the verge of becoming south africa tier and killing the boer.
Nicholas Jackson
It doesn't have combat planes yet.
Brody Sanchez
Carter Garcia
Are you talking about US that was put in their place by glorious NK?
Jason Phillips
against a lesser threat say with little to no navy or airforce they are infinitely useful. against a country with long range missile capabilities advanced radar and powerful navy, not so much.
Ian Davis
A FUCKING RAMP
Gavin Allen
kek it's actually true, fucking aircraft carriers are nothing but drains of money
You wish mate
Angel Cruz
>memes
231 F-35bs have been made, the UK has taken delivery of 12 of them so far
Gabriel Ramirez
>Queen Elizabeth has two super structures
What happened to your two towers burger?
Aaron Ward
>Royal Navy isn't a joke
American here, I beg to differ
Your entire nation is a joke, the only value you have is the military bases we put on your soil
Ethan Lee
Still being piloted by brits though.
Julian Gonzalez
no
Ryder Powell
RULE BRITANNIA, BRITANNIA RULE THE WAVES
lol jk
Nicholas Ortiz
...
Cameron Thompson
>Against capable foes with hypersonic anti-ship missiles, no
>hypersonic anti-ship missiles passing through a 60 mile radius without adversary
Yeah, no.
If you have a lone duck carrier you might be able to take it out with a few dozen missiles but a high-tech fleet is a completely different story.
Jaxon Collins
That was directed at the Queen herself. She's sitting at Buckingham palace.
Nathan Kelly
If some 3rd rate barely even regional power decides to invade one of our dozen or so islands dotted around the world, yes. If we're fighting WW3, no.