/Christ/chan CHRISTIAN GENERAL - JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE EDITION

>God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (John 4:24 KJV)

DAILY BREAD
Know this first, that there shall come scoffers in the last days who walk after their own lusts, and say, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things have continued as they were since the beginning of the creation.” For they willingly ignore that, by the word of God the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed standing out of the water and in the water, by which the world that then existed was flooded with water and perished. But by the same word, the heavens and the earth that now exist are being reserved for fire, kept for the Day of Judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

But, beloved, do not be ignorant of this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slow concerning His promise, as some count slowness. But He is patient with us, because He does not want any to perish, but all to come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:3-9 MEV)

READ THE BIBLE
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LISTEN TO THE BIBLE
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WATCH THE BIBLE
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CHRISTIAN NEWS
>Christ's Internet
christsinternet.com
>Hal Lindsey Report
hallindsey.com
>Z3 News
z3news.com

PODCAST
>Josh Coen
youtu.be/imzZOTCzVlI
>Lyn Leahz
youtube.com/user/LynLeahz
>TRUNEWS
youtu.be/BFuIUQ_7b_w

TESTIMONY
>Critically Injured Cop Sees Vision of Jesus During Shootout
youtu.be/1lv7tOh-8oY
>Secret Message in the Bible Converts Orthodox Jewish Woman
youtu.be/7MkJjLxZai8

MUSIC
>Light Up The Sky
youtu.be/X1IPYipEw-Q
>He Knows My Name
youtu.be/1NHQJWdXfFE
>This Man
youtu.be/z8sx6-wj9kQ

PRAYER & WORSHIP
>IHOP
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"Our Father dwelling in the heavenly realms, may the glory of Your Name be the center on which our lives turn.

Manifest Your kingdom-realm, and cause Your every purpose to be fulfilled on earth, just as it is fulfilled in heaven!

We acknowledge You as our Provider of all that we need each day.

Forgive us the wrongs we have done as we ourselves release forgiveness to those who have wronged us.

Rescue us every time we face tribulations and set us free from evil.

For You are the King who rules with power and glory forever!”

Amen.

Matthew 6:9-13

Daily Communion

(1) Read scripture or Pray.

(2) Repent sins.

(3) Break Bread (The Body of Christ Jesus) in the Name of the Father Jehovah, in the Name of the Son Jesus Christ of Nazareth, in the Name of the Holy Spirit the Counselor.

(4) Read scripture or Pray.

(5) Drink Wine or Grape juice (The Blood of Jesus Christ) in the Name of the Father Jehovah, in the Name of the Son Jesus Christ of Nazareth, in the Name of the Holy Spirit the Counselor.

(6) Read scripture, Pray or Sing.

if god is real, then why did he create Satan? can't he get rid of him since he's all powerful? and why did he let his son get bullied to death? and that's ignoring the fact that there was a four headed mister and a talking snake in the book, but its adorable to see people so desperate for a reason to live like awwwww you're not capable of dealing with reality and the lack of an afterlife, so cute!

Perry Stone shares visions he has received about coming tsunamis.

youtube.com/watch?v=oAq1NTM3Vvs

Perry Stone: "I was right outside of Charleston South Carolina and in this vision I was in a duplex and there was a woman taking pictures at the bottom, I could see the city, it was a real clean, nice city, clear day and I looked over to the right and I saw a bridge in the bridge had a big interstate sign that said Charleston and I knew I'm near Charleston South Carolina it must be across the bridge, well I didn't know there were bridges connecting there, I had no idea because I had never preached in Charleston… and all of a sudden I saw a dark cloud forming I said “oh my goodness is trouble coming and this lady is out taking pictures and I'm trying to hit the window saying get to safety, get to safety."

Amen bro!

>Visions
McChristians, will they ever learn?

>In 2003 Joseph Atwill discovered that the Roman emperor Titus Flavius, working with Flavius Josephus and other authors in his patrimony wrote the New Testament. Atwill deduced this by comparing The 'Judean War' to the New Testament. The 'Judean War', written by Flavius Josephus, was originally part of the Christian Bible, and was removed around 1100 CE. 'The Roman Origin of Christianity', released as 'Caesar's Messiah' by Joseph Atwill documents the creation of the New Testament as a Roman satire devised to win over Judean dissidents by deceiving them into believing that the emperor Titus Flavius Vespasiani was Jesus! I know, it sounds strange, but that seems to be the way it was. Titus took great pleasure in calling himself "the greatest forger in history."

Discuss please.

For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts. (Isaiah 55:8-9)

There is an afterlife and there is a spiritual realm. You can either listen to your own thoughts or you can listen directly to Jesus Christ and listen to what He says. This is your decision: divinerevelations.info/documents/bible/esv_mp3_no_ot_2ndversion/?dir=New_Testament

>guys why doesn't God do these things that i inferred were important by interpreting my extremely limited knowledge of His scripture as if it were one of my harry potter books

>someone wrote it in a book so it must be real

I see, so the Harry Potter series is a documentary? that's so cool! you're right, it IS fun to lie to yourself into thinking that life has meaning!

Christian rock is faggot shit literally crafted by Jews to trivialize and mock God.

Look into the genesis of it. Same record label as the niggers from "death row" 2pac, snoop dog, NWA. Christian Rock and Rap. One to make whites look retarded, one to make niggers look cool.

If you've even taken the time to read your Bible, you would realize how foolish your statement is. The Old Testament prophets and New Testament Apostles also had visions.


And it will be that, afterwards, I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; then your sons and your daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, and your young men will see visions. Even on the menservants and maidservants in those days I will pour out My Spirit. (Joel 2:28-29)

so getting rid of Satan isn't important to him? I see, maybe he's just way too entertained by seeing us shoot each other in the face with bullets and fucking with chemical warfare.

Earth is your test, not salvation/heaven

the world is older than 6k years

jesus didn't rise from the dead and his teachings were influenced by buddhism

god of the hebrews isnt god of the universe and their stories are archaic exaggerations (very common for the time)

I'm not here to convince you what is Truth. That's your job. I'm just here to deliver a message. You can either listen to Jesus Christ, or you can listen to the thousands of other gods, ideas, and -isms out there in this world.

‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’ (Luke 16:31b)

>the world is older than 6k years
True, but all life on this Earth is 12,000-6,000 years old.

>jesus didn't rise from the dead
Jesus did rise from the dead and He ascended into Heaven. He is alive.

>his teachings were influenced by buddhism
No.

>god of the hebrews isnt god of the universe and their stories are archaic exaggerations (very common for the time)
No.

Read your Bible in the Spirit and stop taking false ideas from other men and from the devil. The blind leading the blind, they both fall into the _______.

So I'm supposed to convince myself that god exists? That's what I've been saying this whole time, you've manipulated your way of thinking, and the only evidence you have is a book. A fucking book. I guess ill grab a wand a broom because books are always right and they're a source of evidence

>it says that it's real therefore it is and it isn't wrong.

I'm actually a cat typing this, I promise I'm telling the truth

Fixed

Life began 14 million years ago, are you retarded or are you implying that humans and are the only thing alive in this world?

you Christians are so dumb, it's adorable

To give you a choice.

Yeah, it's pretty bad. Most attempts to be like the world to draw people to Jesus are pretty bad.

Daily Reminder

>Christian for over a year now
>dad grew up under socialism and hates Christianity
>doesn't just dislike them, but strictly opposes it
>thinks they only cause trouble, oppress people, cause war and get in the way of progress (as in liberal/regressive "progress" such as gay rights, abortion etc.)
>haven't told him I'm christian
>had to order a bible to my friends house and hide it from him
What should I do? I don't know if I can keep it a secret forever.

Jesus was called Emmanuel, he was a spritual man who traveled the world and died peacefully in India.

Satan will be dealt with when his time comes. Relax. Be patient.

What is Truth?

God used the power and force of the Holy Spirit to put together the Bible over centuries. Back in those days of the 1st century Christians, they would receive their New Testament Scripture either though a prophet or an Apostle in their church. The Christians of that day were in the Spirit, unlike many so-called Christians today which require no faith or sacrifice.

This is all moot if you don't believe in the spiritual realm and the Words that Jesus Himself spoke and accept them as Truth. You can believe anything you want, the devil is a liar and a deceiver.


Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. (Hebrews 11:1)

Blessed are those who have not seen, and have yet believed. (John 20:29b)

It's not.
He did.
He is.

>Jews from biblical times will receive visions
>Therefore modern goyim will receive visions even though Jesus is the final prophet

You can figure it out on your own, yes. But maybe you're too busy trying to figure out how and why the universe exists without saying "God did it". In that case, you'll never figure it out.

>True, but all life on this Earth is 12,000-6,000 years old.
then why do we have hominid skeletons older than that

>Jesus did rise from the dead and He ascended into Heaven. He is alive.
He's dead. God is alive but he's not yahweh god of the jews nor are they his chosen people

>his teachings were influenced by buddhism
>No
yes

>god of the hebrews isnt god of the universe and their stories are archaic exaggerations (very common for the time)
>No

Read historical documents from the same era, it was very common for kingdoms and tribes to write glorious exaggerations about how their god intervened in the battlefield.
The reason NT is so disconnected from OT is because Jesus was influenced by non-jewish thought during his 30 years before his ministry. This is why it's so absurd that Jesus would be portrayed as loving if this was all a part of the same framework where if you don't bow down to the god of the jews you will be tortured forever

>Read your Bible
already have
> in the Spirit
what christians call "holy ghost" is an evil jewish spirit that whispers in the ears of retarded goat herders that then go and make a mess of the middle east (this happened 3 times, islam is just the most recent one)

Were you there to witness that event? No? So, it's just like, your opinion, man.

God created all life on this Earth.

Even your idol Richard Dawkins an adamant evolutionist and atheist admits the possibility that life was seeded by an extraterrestial race from another star system.

You don't even know your own 'religion'.

>god lets cancer and terrorist attacks happen to innocent lives because you have the freedom of choice.

and even if that were true, it says on the bible that god knows what I'm going to do before it even happens, is it still freedom of choice if he has already planned out your actions?

if he created Satan on purpose to give us freedom of choice, then why did he "fight" against him in the heavens? Your words are contradicting, but so is the bible so I can't blame you

He's right. Christianity does cause problems in Socialist countries, because the god of Socialist countries is the State, and the State brooks no interference from God.

If Jesus was called Emmanuel, God With Us, then He is God, and though He died on a cross outside the city of Jerusalem, He also rose from the dead.

He never went to India.

>What is Truth?

Pilate's question to Jesus, Who is Truth. "Who is Truth?" should replace "What is truth?" in every instance.

But Jesus was silent, and Pilate did not pursue his own question.

In the end times, old men will dream dreams, and young men will receive visions.

Or vice versa. Can't be arsed to check it out. But it does confirm visions in the end times.

>>Read your Bible
>already have
>> in the Spirit
>what christians call "holy ghost" is an evil jewish spirit blah blah blah

The universe created itself because matter is never lost, it creates itself again and again because as it expands infinitely, it will warp into itself because of the conservation of matter. that's why the big "bang" was super hot, because all the matter that created the universe expanded rapidly across all directions.

But of course you don't care because your way of explaining the unexplainable is by simply saying, "because god made it that way."

You Christians are so ignorant of everything

There's nothing demonstrably older than 4800 years on the planet. Nothing. What you think is older is due to the asinine radiometric dating methods that reproduce similar numbers given similar tests on similar substances using similar techniques.

Yes, because you don't know what God knows.

There was no fight. Satan was just kicked out. The war you're referring to is in the future, and again satan will just be bound.

satan is not God's opposite; satan is Michael or Gabriel's opposite.

>24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

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>doesn't read about and follow Jesus
>completely misses the point

You can either follow some long text message some guy typed out on his iPhone while taking a dump in a toilet, or you can listen to the words of Jesus Christ the Son of God manifest in the flesh. Your decision.

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>There's nothing demonstrably older than 4800 years on the planet.
there's trees older than that you absolute retard

>blah blah
you'll be in for a shock when you find out that only people who sold their sold to yahweh the jewish spirit will be tortured for his entertainment

It's your reward for being stupid enough to worship a god that is evil by his own standards - what you want to be done to others is done to you instead. Yahweh is the trickster archetype.

The end times are going on for the last 2000 years now, that's like 1/3 of Earth's age

We have evidence of fossils, we can estimate how old something is by its structure such a degradation and such.

here's your evidence but I guess the difference between Christians and me is that my opinions are based on evidence, rather than faith.

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I don't believe in his ideas, and I'm not atheist either. he's irrelevant.

Since it seems apt to post again:


We've had this discussion years back on Sup Forums. Pic related is the back and forth from anti-theist and Christian Sup Forums and where it is now. It's a crude version of the cosmological argument and layers of back and forth from anti-theist dissenters and Christian proponents. Note that the discussion - and the first part of the picture - warn that we're not talking about causation in a timely sense. This isn't about a "before the Big Bang" - in fact the vast majority of cosmological arguments aren't talking about causation in-time but sustaining causation. In the discussion of sustaining causation there are two major views:

>Divine Conservation: That things ultimately do rely on something outside of itself for its own existence constantly. Details of what that is and why that is are derived from the individual arguments themselves.

>Existential Inertia: That things ultimately move and exist on their own and don't need outside causation. How that works and why that is are derived from individual arguments themselves.

I would say, as would others, that the Divine Conservation position is actually fleshed out and sound, unlike the opposite view which usually has little to no argument for itself but amount to just a denial of Divine Conservation in everything I've read on the topic.

I'll have a formal proof for it in my next post that is the argument in full detail.

Part 1/3

Ruach Elohim is a person of the Trinity.

Agnostic-Athiest here. How can I know that god exist ? What reason do I have to believe the biblical accounts can be trusted ? How do we know Jesus was more than just a man? If you can believe that a being capable of creating a universe appeared out of no where, why do you find it impossible that the universe couldn't come from the same origins? And even if I were to be a Christian, which denomination is the right one? There's over 4,000 that disagree on almost everything. God isn't supposed to be the author of confusion. So many questions...

Matter is never created either.

I hope you know carbon dating is flawed and when specimens are hit with radiation they "age" rapidly, thus meaning we dont know how old something actually is because radiation could have pelted the earth.

There are clonal trees that are carbon dated to be older than that, but of course carbon dating is part of radiometric dating, which is wildly inaccurate.

So you're just going to throw scripture verses at me instead of providing evidence?

I guess i could make my own bible, make up whatever I want, and refer to it as a source of evidence, right?

The "last days" have been going on for 2000 years, which of course is 2 days to Jesus, as a day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years is as a day to Him.

Tree are not an accurate way to age the world
A tree can gain several rings in a year, it completely depends on the species of tree.

All fossils are a result of the Flood about 4650 years ago.

No need to post any of your old posts; they're all worthless, then and now.

Exactly, all matter that exists existed all in one place, that's what created the big "bang" (it was more of an expansion of matter in all directions but it doesn't sound as catchy)

This is a retelling of Aquinas' old format. To show the age.

1. Causation exists.

2. Act and Potency are classic terms we can use to explain causation: When something is in Potency it has the capacity to become something else, but is not it yet. A fertilized egg has the potency to turn into a chick, an unfertilized egg does not. When a potency is realized, it is actual. To actualize a potency is to take a property that something had in potency and make it actually inhere in the thing. The same thing, in this case, for things within an instant. While they are simultaneous they are still essentially ordered.

3. When we find an instance of causation in the world we find some potency being actualized.

4. Something that is only in potency cannot actualize anything.

5. For some potency to be actualized something actual must actualize it.

6. If A is actualized by B, then B must first be actual.

7. Either something must have actualized B from being in potency to be in actuality. Or B is either necessarily actual, having never been in potency before. ( A v B)

8. If the left disjunct “A” is true then premise 7 applies to a new cause C.

9. If disjunct “B” is true there is a “first” uncaused cause that is pure actuality.

10. If disjunct “B” is never the case then there is an infinite series of actualizations. And we can apply 7 to C, then to a new cause D, and so forth. With every being having its actuality derived from another being.

11. If “10” is the case then there can be no actualization, as every being in the series has its actuality derived from another being, but there is no being with actuality on it's own to derive the actuality from.

12. If “10” is the case there is no causation

13. There is causation ( from premise 1)

14. Premise “10” is not the case.

15. If premise 10 is not the case, then at some point in the series “9” is the case.

16. There is a first cause, which is a being of pure actuality.

the problem is that you leap from "There is a god" to "The god of the jews is the true god and everyone else is tortured forever"

This is where the retardation comes in.
There is an "ough" - an elevated ideal that all men should aspire to, but the christian ideal is not it. Christianity sees this world as a useless transit, so it makes no difference whether we destroy all beauty and deny birth control to 3rd world and fill the planet with dysgenic overpopulation (afterall, fertility is a sign of god's favor!).

There is a god, but hes not the god of the jews and i worry for your soul if you sell yourself that cheap

The heavens declare the glory of God, and the earth shows His handiwork.

By attempting to attribute the existence of the universe, and the things on the earth, to someone or something other than God, you will never believe in God because you are in open rebellion against Him.

There is a God.
This is the universe God made.
If you can't figure that out, you're well behind the 8 ball.

How far along in the book of Revelations do you Anons think we are?

Also, does anyone here support "Israels" right to exist? If so, why?

God credits faith as righteousness. This is why Jesus said to become like children and come to Jesus. Listen to the Words of Jesus Himself, you can start with the Book of Matthew (link in OP). People believe what they want, what we go through in life isn't much different than what Adam and Eve had to go through in the Garden if you think about it.

God is Spirit, and those that worship Him must worship in Spirit and in Truth. If you desire to join a church, then the Holy Spirit will guide you. Spiritual Christians are scattered across Christian denominations. There isn't a correct denomination on this Earth, but there is a Spiritual church that you cannot see.

You're right that God isn't an author of confusion, Satan is the one that lies and deceives. Man is stiffnecked, if you read the Bible you will see this repeatedly.

Start by listening to what Jesus Himself had to say, start with the Book of Matthew: divinerevelations.info/documents/bible/esv_mp3_no_ot_2ndversion/?dir=New_Testament

Not to mention C14 appearing in diamonds, coal beds, and virtually ever organic sample ever taken for C14 analysis.

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Yu'll notice that the argument ended with "pure actuality" rather than "God", which is what the argument does in its full form. Aquinas' Five Ways are to get five different results from classical arguments for God, examine attributes necessary of such traits, and then, afterwords, defend rationally that all five results must be the same thing to establish a more complete image of the thing from rational deduction. Afterwords, the term "God" is applied as it's entirely synonymous with how God in understood theologically.

The picture crudely summarizes this whole argument but also goes into necessary attributes at the bottom.

From this we can see how common disagreements are tenable at all:

>God being uncreated is special pleading!

The result inherently leads to an uncreated creator and lays out what of its nature is discernible.

>Why can't it be the universe that's eternal?

The universe cannot be as the initial premise mentions motion within the universe and the end result states a lack of change inherent to it.

>You just call it God out of nowhere!

In abbreviated versions, definitely, but the basis I lay clear in my post here.

Aquinas, along with pretty much all the classical Christians understood God in a sense called Classical Theism, which would view God as a constant ground of being rather than an individual or anthropomorphic type of thing. This is the standard Apostolic Christian (Catholic/Orthodox/Coptic) view to this day. This is opposed to the view Theistic Personalism, which is God as a kind of individual and anthropomorphic to some degree. This is constantly popular between all laypeople for easy understanding and became popular between Protestant scholars since modernity. How God's attributes (omni-stuff) are understood differs between these two branches.

This is not the only bit of argumentation in this field but its an easy go-to example to introduce it. People have discussed DC/EI elsewhere too, obviously.

>Agnostic-Athiest here. How can I know that god exist ?
Natural law wouldn't make sense otherwise

>What reason do I have to believe the biblical accounts can be trusted ?
none, and you shouldn't.

>How do we know Jesus was more than just a man?
He wasn't

>God isn't supposed to be the author of confusion.
the god of the jews is a liar and a trickster, and is in fact an author of confusion

Judaism is younger than Christianity. Jews back then refer to a specific tribe, not religion. ALL the tribes worshipped Yaweh.

It's not your fault you don't understand the parable; it's not for you.

But if you think you can create a writing that will last for 3,500 years, go for it.

The matter you suppose set off the Big Bang.....could not be created by itself.

See? Worthless.

Once you know that there is a God, the next step would be to figure out how many God or Gods there are.

Once you find out that there is only one God, the next step is to find out who that God is.

So logically you would examine the claims of everyone who said they were God, to see if you could determine which claim is correct.

Sorry for speaking out against this macro, it looked like an argument against Christians from glancing at it and I was probably tired. Perhaps you were the one that posted this in another thread.

Christian Rock was never an attempt at the word. It is jew music straight from Death Row Records

>Awesome God
Reunion recpods
SONY MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT
Provident label group
RCA/Jive Label Group
RCA/Jive configuration began as the BMG Label Group during the last year of the Sony BMG merger.
Bertelsmann is a German multinational corporation based in Gütersloh, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany.
>After World War II, the company portrayed itself to the Allied Control Authority as a Christian publisher that was part of the resistance to Nazism and allegedly persecuted.

God didn't just appear, He has always existed and will continue so forever.

We're in Ezekiel 37, sneaking into Ezekiel 38.

The first part of the Revelation, the letters to the church, indicate that we are in the 7th phase of the Church, the Laodeciean phase. The phase where they think they are rich, and well dressed, and have need of nothing, when in fact they are poor, and naked, and destitute.

I do not believe the breaking of the 4 seals that release the 4 horsemen have been broken yet, as the first, the antichrist, will not be revealed until after we are gone.

No problem, it's ok. That's specifically why I named it the way I did. So all those "paganfags" would take a look at it.

Junk. Just junk. What one would expect from someone with zero personal relationship with the living God.

Vast majority of Classical music is Christian music.
Classical music is when you're inspired by God, Christian rock happens when youre inspired by a jew.

this is pure obscurantism and you know it.

Basically what you're saying is "well nobody can know if there ever was a roman empire. I mean sure theres all these books that SAY there was, but then again were you there to see it? I don't think so. All you have is these ruins that you CLAIM are a part of rome, but you can't prove that. Ergo the world is 100 years old. BTFO"

its just silly.

tree rings

yeah and we know at what rate they do, thats how we know their age retard

>I guess i could make my own bible, make up whatever I want, and refer to it as a source of evidence, right?

You can try offcourse good luck so far only muhamad was successful , he also needed christianity

I am not providing evidence of anything i merely gave a biblical answer to your question

>so getting rid of Satan isn't important to him?

Why do I even bother trying to reason with theist. You always avoid my questions and give me these bull shit answers.

>The heavens declare the glory of God, and the earth shows His handiwork.
>look at da skaiii it's so pretttyyyy = god
>How do we know Jesus was more than just a man?
>He wasn't
Seriously? That's your answer?
>God credits faith as righteousness
Why would I take anything on faith? I could easily have faith in the great god of JuJu and it would hold just as much water as your god.

Fuck it, I guess I'll never know if god is real. I really don't wanna go to hell, but I guess it can't be helped.

Might as well be. But again, if young kids like it and turn to Jesus, once again God will have turned what was meant for evil to good.

No i am saying
"carbon dating has blatant flaws that fuck with" age" of a specimen thus can not be trusted".

Roman empire had written documentation and dates on them ect ect. Much more reliable.

>Why would I take anything on faith? I could easily have faith in the great god of JuJu and it would hold just as much water as your god.
This is why we ask you to listen to what Jesus Himself says, you can start with the Book of Matthew and it only takes as long as a Netflix TV show: divinerevelations.info/documents/bible/esv_mp3_no_ot_2ndversion/?dir=New_Testament

If you don't like the ESV audio, then go find another one, but ESV offers the most crisp audio in my opinion. God Bless.

youtube.com/watch?v=nx0886C6eAg

>will not be revealed until after we are gone.

Does this mean you believe in a "pre-trib" rapture?

And the criticism of connecting it to Christian history is a different big argument. The first thing that the Christian needs to do is defend their worldview. Then try to connect it to the Christian historical claim.

>how Christians see the world

Most of Christian Sup Forums is Catholic or Orthodox and they wouldn't at all. The world is good. And Heaven isn't finally a disembodied state but a resurrection of the body.


>birth control

Is not stopping overpopulation in most places. Overpopulation occurs due to poor infrastructure, population density, and intentionally poor family planning. The focus on pumping out kids to have them work.

Bumping for the sake of Christ.

> the next step is to find out who that God is.
the only way to do this is through theology and observation of natural law -and anyone who does, will ultimately reject the god of the jews

Most kids DONT like it, its a tool to brainwash them into the niggers are cool and Christians are lame.

You do realize I'm a former Christian and read the Bible cover to cover several times right? I'm aware what the scriptures say.

Which tree in particular are you mentioning?

Yes, the oldest tree rings are about 4600 years old.

There is one exception, where one man said he took a core sample, and decades later a different man said he found the core sample, and the rings numbered more than 4650 years old, but nobody else ever saw it.

If that doesn't smell like last month's fish to you, I can't help you.

Bump for the faith. Youtube bibletalk.tv and watch the gensis series, done well, each section is 30 mins long.