Why don't the Celtic nations believe in freedom and sovereignty anymore? Ireland is cucked beyond repair, they let the Anglo's steal the north and gave the republic up the EU. Scotland are too scared to go independent and the one's that do want independence would hand themselves over to the EU. There are small independent movements in Wales but 70% of the population enjoy being England's bitch. Cornwall have just given up and are happy being referred to as English. Brittany like Wales has small independent movements but majority are happy being a lap dog for the frogs. And dare I say it the fucking Manx are probaby the least cucked out of us all despite being dependent on the crown for almost all funding. Why is Celtic culture dying slowly in each nation? Why don't we follow in the footsteps of leaders like William Wallace and Owain Glyndwr anymore? Why can't we be more like the burgers when it comes to freedom and liberty? Are we all doomed? What does Sup Forums think?
Why are Celtic nations so cucked?
Our time was before the Romans. It is the time of the Germans now, with the time of the Slavs on the horizon.
You might as well ask why the Italians or the Greeks are so cucked.
astute observation, sure you are a leaf user?
Bretons are big fucking leftists too, they deserve a big shipment of africans like the east had.
Because celts are a naturally weak race that rely on others for protection. To be fair when they are apart of an other nation they tend to do quite well because they are naturally submissive and are rave destined for servitude and work well with the dominant ethnicity even if they do get a bit antsy now and again. That's one of the reasons why the UK got as successful as it was. This is also why Ireland is so shit without Anglo control and dominance
It wasn't too long ago that militant groups were being set up in Ireland, Scotland and Wales, IRA being the most successful. So there is still hope. It just seems that everyone from the older generations are pro UK and the younger generation are pro EU. Neither are true freedom.
>rely on others for protection
Yeah, just like England was forced to make a political deal with the IRA because they couldn't stop a bunch of Irish gypsies with AK47s.
I'd say the time of the Slavs started with the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth and is still going. Hopefully it will end soon and we'll see which ethnolinguistic group will dominate next.
I bump every separatist thread
Well at the time of the independence referendum in Scotland the Brexit vote hadn't happened. So if we voted for 'independence' only to immediately try to join the EU, we'd be governed by the same cunts anyway. We'd be even more cucked that we are now. We'd be turned into Sweden 2.0, whereas if we stay with England, Mohammad lives there instead of up here ;)
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You could always have voted to be free from both the UK and EU.
The only political party advocating Independence in Scotland is pro EU. And the SNP can justify it with the EU referendum, they love to tell everyone how "Scotland voted remain"
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also individual British nation flags when? the Irish get too much stick around here so I feel we need to take some of the bants
Exactly the SNP are pro-EU so we had no chance, there wasn't even a question of whether or not we'd join. It was 100% "We're seeking membership" so fuck that. I got what i voted for though, stay in the UK and get the UK out of the EU so i'm happy.
The SNP are absolutely not a nationalist party despite their name, they're socialist, liberal lunatics hellbent on turning us into some kind of backwards LGBT, pro-immigration shithole.
Nationalist put their country 1st. The SNP if they gained independence would immediately hand the power to Brussels so it'd be a completely pointless exercise.
Though if they did turn us into Sweden i wouldn't mind being able to say "I fucking told you so" to all of they wee teenage Braveheart fans - Pricks.
>also individual British nation flags when?
Fucking aye.
In the meantime at least St Andrew's cross is represented on the union jack. Wales is represented by bloody England's St George.
Fair enough, I can understand the motive for voting no in that case.
But if there was a true nationalist party advocating an independent Scotland outside both EU and UK, would you vote for or against it?
God punished them for their sins back in pagan days, when they were the greatest but also sacrificed humans in bestial ways on an Aztec scale. So in a sense our Lord turned them into the Mexicans of Europe.
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Are galicians celtic?
I'm an Irish catholic immigrant in England taking an Englishman's job and fucking his women. Who's the cuck now? :)
I didn't even know there were any Galicians who still considered themselves Celtic, are there many in Galicia that do?
The thing about Scots that actually does need saying:
They're not all that celtic. They have huge amounts of Viking and Anglo-Saxon blood.
Sure the Scots Gaelic people in the corners of the country are probably pretty Celtic, but your average population-belt Scot has a similar genetic makeup as an Englishman.
If you think I'm talking shit... then why is Scots almost entirely mutually intelligible with English:
Many of us do, not in a muh heritage way but you can tell from our language to many 'weird' pagan festivals and traditions we have here.
You forgot to mention they let their languages completely die out and become replaced with english.
And in terms of the Cornish. There are no ethnic Cornish left.
Most emigrated, those that stayed interbred with Anglo-Saxons.
The last monoglot Cornish speaker died in the 1700s.
Those émigré Cornish intermixed with their new cultures also.
There's a similar effect with those in South Wales. There are Welsh-speaking communities in Argentina that are more genetically "Welsh" than the people in South Wales.
The only true original Celtic Britons are probably those in the Welsh-speaking corner of North Wales.
Even the Irish have a tonne of Viking blood in them, that's where the propensity for red hair comes from, arguably the most "Celtic" trait.
Is there an independence movement? I'll have to read into Galicia a bit more.
Probably still against it mate, i'm pretty proud to be part of the UK.
>i'm pretty proud to be part of the UK
pathetic
It's rare to find a pure breed of almost any ethnicity anymore.
The culture is still here in our countries though. All Celtic languages are undergoing revivals but they'll never truly increase in large numbers unless people become patriotic.
Are you a proud yank then?
Lol what a cuck. You aren't a real Scotsman. I voted Yes to Indy and Leave in Brexit, git gud son.
Even the English are starting to hate the concept of the UK. What will it take to change your mind, Scot?
Yes to independence haha - Faggot. You just voted for nothing. Read my previous posts and get your shit together.
Maybe a government like Poland's. Not some bullshit socialist shit
I just don't see the point. I'm a Yorkshireman. Only 10-20 generations or so ago my ancestors would have recoiled at the idea of being "English" (i.e. Anglo-Saxon, they were "Danes") and the idea of "British" wasn't a thing that existed.
You're proving your point for me. I'd rather have regional flavours of Britishness then the weakness of every county deciding its a distinct ethnicity.
Brits ruled the world because they weren't (too) divided by petty regionalism.
And it's not just cos I'm English, I identify more as just a "Yorkshireman" or a "Northerner". To me "the English" are southerners and people from the home counties. I don't feel like the same "culture" as them.
Doesn't mean I wanna infinitely weaken the country in every way (especially economically) by breaking it like a mirror.
Germany used to be like the regionalists want now: a patchwork of tiny regional nations.
They didn't start to have any kind of clout in the world until unification.
It is like a background thing. Nobody calls himself "celtic" but it is embeded into popular culture.
The landscape, the climate and the historical background of the regision really lends itself to it.
Racially, not all galicians look like irishmen. Some of them don't look like the celtic stereotype at all.
Nevertheless, I have always thought that there is a lot of spiritual, cultural and genetical material here to create a right wing nationalist movement.
Unfortunately, the only attempt to do so where the autists of MRA (Watch the video and pic related). Poor guys ended up in prison or paying fines the moment they became just a bit more than twenty clowns playing dress up.
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Some info about Galicia/northern Portugal (pretty much the same):
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Why do you want to have any clout in the world? What good does it bring to any country? I'd much rather have a country that focuses on improving living standards of it's people rather than focus on trying to be the most popular.
Well, one thing that could really, really lower living standards within what's currently the UK would be all of the "nations" having protectionist policies against each other and immigration restrictions that restrict the movement of talent from where it is, to where it's needed.
Clout also gives you a better ability to negotiate trade with other countries.
It also stops you being bullied (or even conquered) by large unified states like Russia.
>Well, one thing that could really, really lower living standards within what's currently the UK would be all of the "nations" having protectionist policies against each other and immigration restrictions that restrict the movement of talent from where it is, to where it's needed.
Well, yeah short term but in the long run having a good educational system would fix this. Free movement of people between countries should never be a part of any union.
>Clout also gives you a better ability to negotiate trade with other countries.
That's true to a certain degree but if a country like Iceland in the middle of nowhere and a population that barely reaches 400k can negotiate trade agreements between all EU, China and America there's no reason any other country can't.
>It also stops you being bullied (or even conquered) by large unified states like Russia.
Good point but are we supposed to make our decisions as a country based on fear of others rather than passion for our own?
If they dropped the white supremacy stuff they could have probably gained some support.
>Free movement of people between countries should never be a part of any union.
Define "country". It's totally arbitrary.
Even if you think protectionism works at a certain scale, it couldn't work at the level of town to town, or street to street.
So you have to persuade me that restricting people's free movement around what's "the UK" would be of any benefit.
Not all of the sub-countries would have the same industries as each other.
A Scottish genius for an English industry might be lost to border enforcement. He might never make his advances.
I have no problem at all with free movement in the EU. I'd be a hypocrite if I did, I'm a Brit living in Poland married to a Polish woman who was born in London.
Whites should be free to move around other white countries as they see fit.
Our patchwork of distinct cultures in Europe makes us poorer than the US. With or without the EU, in 500 years all of Europe will speak a dialect of English. I can see it happening already.
When that happens we'll be much more able to compete with the economic clout of North America.
I'm not anti immigration, I just think a country (A nation that has it's own government, language and culture) should have control of it's borders. Having control of our own border doesn't mean we'll suddenly start rejecting every Englishman who wants to come to our country. If an industry needed skills that can be provided by a foreigner then there's no reason to not allow that foreigner to immigrate.
A true Irish nationalist wouldn't leave his country
Since the St.Patrick's Saltire represents the island of Ireland, I'm literally more represented than a Welshman on the Union Flag. Why is this allowed?
if there isn't one you could always meme one.
I'm only gonna make one last point really, cos I gotta go to bed.
I have empathy to that idea. But I Englishmen moving to Scotland and breeding there isn't really going to change how the scots "look" in any meaningful way. And those kids grow up feeling Scottish. Even if they don't, their kids do.
It's not like with non-white migrants where they're always obviously "different".
Borders serve a purpose: to protect from threats and invasion by hostile cultures. Just because you're a distinct culture from the English, doesn't mean you need a border.
Our whole idea of "the nation state" is only a couple of hundred years old:
en.wikipedia.org
Poles and Germans still argue about whether Copernicus was Polish or German. The truth is, Copernicus himself probably wouldn't really have understood the concept particularly well.
In the past, there were no immigration laws, and the countries we feel such allegiance were just areas of land ruled by a particular monarchical dynasty. It only slightly had a relationship to ethnicity.
A Lombardian would have understood himself to be an Italian as much as a Venetian, but they were different countries.
A Pole and a Lithuanian would have considered themselves different ethnicities/nations but were part of the same country. The idea that nation and state shoudl be one and the same is a recent invention.
Just because we recognise the reality of race and ethnicity it doesn't mean we should fetishise borders for their own sake.
Europe absolutely should have external borders. There aren't really good arguments for having too many internal ones.
Bavarians are still Bavarian even after nearly two centuries of unification. Scots are still Scots after 300.
Cultural identity isn't threatened by immigration of people who will produce children who don't stand out from the natives.
Ethnicity is a fuzzy idea anyway. Most Poles have German ancestry. Most English are part Scot.
the time of the slavs is so fucking far in the past that scientists needed to invent a new unit of time to find it
Na, the Visegrad 4 are the future of Europe. You don't know shit yank.
>In the past, there were no immigration laws
What was sakoku in Japan?
a pole hiding behind a flag no doubt
slavs don't have a high enough IQ for the Jews to give a fuck about what they do
I'm talking about Europe. I don't want uncontrolled immigration from outside Europe.
>I have no problem at all with free movement in the EU. I'd be a hypocrite if I did, I'm a Brit living in Poland married to a Polish woman who was born in London.
Literally said what I was in this post.
lmfao I can't believe how hard I called that
you fucking cucked yourself by ringing up with a subhuman identified as such by the last honest empire to ever grace the earth, and you are now retroactively justifying it by way of Sup Forums stereotypes
That's why I use a flag. Literally 90% of my posts were explaining to idiots the concept of not living in the country you're from.
> called it
> not a pole
your children will be poles, you're posting from poland, your wife is a pole
Oh no, a 99.8% white country that's anti-Muslim, pro-capitalist, has a long history of defending the continent from Turks and Russians and has the same average IQ has Britain. How will I cope.
>has the same IQ as Britain when Britain has millions of niggers in it
White people have an average IQ of 100. That's true of Poland and Britain.
You know what though, I'm not even gonna bother shilling for Poland on here. Poland is great. I don't want people figuring that, moving here and spoiling it.
idk why i expected you to be able to do basic math
>the average IQ of Poland and Britain are the same
>There are millions of niggers in Britain
>There are hardly any niggers in Poland
Ergo, since the average IQ of Britain is being dragged down by Niggers, the Average IQ of actual Englishmen/Celts is higher than the Average IQ of Poles
All it would take is another Padraig Pearse for Ireland to be saved.
I dunno why I'd expect you to understand a basic point:
1) those blacks don't take IQ tests.
2) there are also plenty of east asians in the UK, who have higher average IQs than whites.
2) the average white British person has an IQ of 100. The same as the country itself.
3) Poland has an average IQ of 100.
4) Poland is nearly Finland-tier in terms of educational outcomes.
Willing to bet you know nothing about anything here, haven't looked at any statistics, have never been to Poland (or Europe at all probably) and you're just spouting your opinion because you think that your flag means people give a shit. They don't.
I'm from Norway you racecuck and have been to England, and let me tell you first fucking hand that you're delusional if you think that there are enough Chinks to balance out the pakis and niggers in England
>blacks don't take IQ tests
lol I guess we're just guessing on the IQs of African nations then huh bud
Ignores the bit about educational outcomes.
Cool. Nighty night.
>more educated
>same IQ
>a good thing
you've been around poles too long my friend
There is very little Viking blood in Ireland
Portugal present, we dont speak celtic language anymore, but our forgotten roots are deep.
>Since the St.Patrick's Saltire represents the island of Ireland, I'm literally more represented than a Welshman on the Union Flag. Why is this allowed?
Because English royals past and present think Wales needs to be represented by England. To be fair, most Welsh people don't want to be on the union jack. We've got the dragon.