Ask a guy who was on the jury of a pedo rape trial anything

The case: 48yr old guy meets 17yr old on an online dating site and starts regularly visiting her at home for sex.

The problem: she's mentally handicapped, and according to her parents she can't consent to anything. She attends school online from home while her mom works.

The facts: Dude starts sexing her up at 17 (legal in this state). One of her online classmates hears about her "boyfriend" and calls the police to report it. The cops come and roust them, but there's really nothing they can do because (a) she's 18 now and (b) she told the cops he's her boyfriend and she invited him over. The cops call her mom and bricks are shat. Mom wants him off the property so the cops tell him to leave, which he does...(continued)

Not Guilty

>pedo
>17

that word does not mean what you think it means.

Marry her. Only real answer here.

So then what?: The cop (who's a total Chad) won't let it go and decides to interrogate the dude. After a few months of "investigating" they decide there's still nothing they can charge him with so the case is dropped. Weeks later, the mom finds a dvd in the girl's roon showing them banging and blows a vein in her forehead. She swears the girl would've been 17 in the video (making it CP) but the dvd was burned after she was 18. Officer Chad obtains a warrant to search the dude's house for evidence of CP.

It gets better: The cops surround this guy's house and serve the warrant. In a panic he snaps the other dvds he had in half, and take the hard drive out of computer and THROWS IT OUT A WINDOW. Amazingly, none of the cops saw it...(continued)

Your mistakes were:

1. Trying to date someone that is more than 20 years younger than you.

2. Having sex before marriage.

Next time you know what you shouldn't do.

Hang on, I'm getting to that part

What was the "mentally handicap" since I am guessing this was the mothers idea to get him pegged

SO, after the search the cops have some broken dvds that can't be used and a computer with no hard drive. They start interrogating him about where the drive is and instead of keeping his mouth shut HE TELLS THEM WHERE IT IS. Low and behold a few of the videos were of her at 17 and he was officially fucked.

guilty thats a weird fuck

Why didn't you just write this all out in notepad instead of typing for ten minutes between posts

In a panic, he decides his best move is to take the girl downtown and marry her. After that he tries to claim spousal immunity and the cops laugh because they have the videos to use against him. He gets 40+ charges filed against him and then he comes to see us.

AMA

Gail the snail

If he did, faggots would accuse him of using reddit space

Well he's guilty for possessing underaged porn at the very least. What exactly is her mental handicap?

Fuck this dude send him to nigger jail.

They didn't tell us a specific disease, instead the expert just testified that she had the mentality of a 10 year old and couldn't consent even if she wanted to

>Ask me anything
Cancerous reddit styling aside, is the guy in jail now or what?

i got one question, and this really boggles my mind since i just dont understand it:
how can ANYBODY be stupid enough to fuck an underage AND take footage of it AND storing said material on a hard drive/dvd?????

Generally, why do people feel the need to make sextapes of themselves?

His defense was that she didn't tell him about her handicap and he couldn't tell by talking to her. Honestly, I couldn't really tell while she was testifying. She seemed shy, and I got the sense that she didn't want to participate in any of this but her mother was forcing her to

you should have thrown that out

being a woman

Yes. Convicted on all counts, 100 years in prison. They only told us after the verdict that he had a previous conviction for diddling an 8 year old boy

was he convicted?

If only they put that much energy into investigating real pedophile networks, those with real children under 10yo who are passed around and sold.

She just accepted to marry you?

Age of consent is a meme

This actually happened to me, met some girl online, she is legal age, 22 but apparently she lives at home, no job, and her Mom still has legal custody of her as an adult because according to them she is "slow", on top of that they don't let her leave the house or date.

Now having talked to her for a few weeks I could tell she was hardly mentally retarded, she's not going to win a nobel prize or anything but still no dumber than the average burger and it;s clear her mom is lying and gaming the state to get free money, however the girl started talking of running away and coming to live with me and all this shit, I ended it there because the last thing I needed was a rape charge because I "kidnapped" and "raped" a legally retarded girl.

Wasn't up to me. His public defenders never presented any witnesses or evidence to counter the expert.

>he had a previous conviction for diddling an 8 year old boy
Well shit, that turned me around. If it was an actual conviction (not just a charge) then I'm not sure why he was walking free in the first place.

good lord that is depressing

He did time for it, happened in the 90's.

the entire fucking industry of social media is one big brainwash scheme to tell people it's okay to just upload your whole fucking life online or at least store it digitally.

It's only going to get worse, I guarantee it. Sometimes I genuinely think that there's only one small group of people who were born at just the right time to get hammered with the "INTERNET BAD AND DANGEROUS DO NOT PUT ANY PERSONAL INFO ONLINE EVER EVER EVER" idea. The ones preceding are just amazed and confused by the technology and the ones following are steeped in it from birth now that everyone uses it

i dunno. i'm sure this has been said every moment since the first human, but we live in interesting times

Stay far the fuck away man.

why did you agree to convict without knowing? w/o knowledge of previous conviction, seems flimsy as fuck

>met some girl online

want to know how i know you're a retard?

this. OP is a faggot until he answers.

I guess he felt like he hit the pervert lottery and wanted to be able to re-live it at home.

So I doubt it has much to do with the handicap and moreso the fact that he filmed it while she was underage and destroyed evidence. Why the fuck would you even film yourself doing illegal shit? It's what i don't get when I see those idiot black thugs filming themselves robbing gas stations.

>hey only told us after the verdict that he had a previous conviction for diddling an 8 year old boy
lol good riddance

The judge would not allow them to tell us his previous criminal history. We were only allowed to consider what was presented to us.

never mind OP answered

Honestly I'm glad he went to jail. Degenerates who have sex with women decades younger than themselves and aren't going to at least marry them can eat shit.

I said above he got convicted. He got 100 years. Oh, and OP is always a fag.

It seems like many people born 60s-90s could fall into the middle category. My father and uncle were born in the early 60s and avoid putting any personal information online, neither has a normiebook account. I also have a younger cousin that was born in the 90s but grew up in the country and has the same mentality.

good shit

personally, i was fortunate enough to get taught at an early age that uploading personal information online is dangerous. but why did that stop? why is nobody talking about this anymore? i remember when they told us in school to be careful who we talk to and what information we publish online, but nowadays i hear nothing, nothing at all...

was she hot tho?

OP has stated that the sex was legal (in his state), just the filming was illegal

he did marry her you tard

learn2read

then why convict

you previously stated that the sex was legal in your state

The sad truth is that this guy never would've even been charged if he had kept his mouth shut and not told them where the hard drive was. Once they had the "CP" vids he was fucked.

she was probably a unironic sperg

Check out


Brimstone and Treacle

The one with Sting in is ok, truly dark and interesting play about abuse and magic

did they null the marriage?

>He gets 40+ charges filed against him
JUSTICE

>he did marry her you tard
>learn2read
yeah he "married" her in order to avoid going to jail. What I'm saying is that if you are going to fuck a girl 20+ years younger than yourself you had best be prepared to provide for her because otherwise you're just taking advantage of her.

Reverse their ages and he could go on to run France some day. Really makes you think.

What's funny is 1)It wasn't a rape 2)It wasn't pedo. Gotta love burgers, because the 5yo that WAS gang raped in Idaho by muslims didn't see the perpetrators go to jail and the parents were under court order to STFU. Oh say can you see?

I want to ask you what you mean by "a vein in her forehead exploded"
Wtf does that mean?

Why convict? Well, they had him on the CP. The law is pretty cut and dried - under 18 is illegal and the original video files were all dated from when she was 17. It came down to whether we accepted his excuse that he was just some innocent guy who got hornswaggled, and we didn't. It was obvious he was a complete scumbag, and while I didn't think he girl was 100% retarded they had tons of medical stuff to back up the claim that she couldn't consent.

He was retarded enough to fucking record it on video.

The only time you should ever be paranoid enough to record a sexual encounter on video is if its a 1 night stand or * you've been out drinking with the girl.

There is also the fact that he knowingly kept the harddrive around even after they were questioning him

*Even then you've got fucking issues if youre that paranoid about it.

Yes

Dude, fucking a 17 year old is certainly not pedophilia.
I don't know what your laws are, but over here 16 is legal.

It's still shows the guy has no class to fuck a girl that is so much younger, but he's not a pedo, it doesn't fucking matter if she is retarded.
What you actually say is that retarded people cannot ever fuck voluntarily. because at what age will that person be capable of deciding that in your opinion?

hey faggot answer my question

...

If it's any consolation he's almost definitely making it up. Nobody is wasting resources prosecuting guys for banging 17 year olds in consensual relationships .We can barely get all the actual kiddy fiddlers prosecuted and locked up or in treatment.

They fucking piled on too. Kidnapping, rape, child porn, then tampering with evidence and possession of criminal tools for the screwdriver he removed the hard drive with.

She reached a level of mad heretofore unknown

>100
>years

pretty clear that this country has a strange relationship with sex and taboo.

The OP said earlier in the thread that the guy was previously convicted for molesting an 8 year old. If so I could see cops looking for any excuse to put him back in jail, as they should.

Reddit spacing only refers to the spacing between greentext and (you)ing and responses.

i.e. this post I'm making is not reddit spaced. Yours is.

Point is, on leddit, if you do a double carriage return, it counts as 1 line, if you only do one carriage return, it keeps it on the same line. So in order to separate your text from the quoted material, you have to double space. On Sup Forums, you don't double space a reply. That's the difference.

She looked a lot like a young Juliette Lewis

I read it again. I see. The MOM blew a vein in her forehead out of rage.
For some reason I first read it as the daughter blew a vein in her forehead ehile fucking.

hawt

Not LARPing. The town she lived in doesn't have a lot of crime, so the cop had plenty of time to pursue it plus the cop made it clear he didn't like the guy and was gunning for him.

Because people realized that it's better if everyone freely gives out everything about themselves if you want to make money. Doesn't help their algorithms are shit and Amazon keeps recommending me to buy a laptop right after I buy a laptop, and so on.

So we quickly went from "don't let people steal your information on the internet so they can steal your money" to "make sure you give us all your information on the internet so we can monetize it"

I guess? Not my type.

That's a completely insane judgment. You actually agreed that this guy way guilty of something?
Good job, lol

So that's why he got fucked. CP for 100 years sounds off but wholly fuck the DA dropped a nuke over his head
>Rape
Wait was it statutory rape or actual fucking rape?

>Sometimes I genuinely think that there's only one small group of people who were born at just the right time to get hammered with the "INTERNET BAD AND DANGEROUS DO NOT PUT ANY PERSONAL INFO ONLINE EVER EVER EVER" idea.

I'm inclined to agree.
I'm 27 and my friends and I have often discussed this.

I think it's a combination of Britain being a bit of a nanny state and sensational media:
In the late 80's to early 00's there were many highly publicised child abuse cases simultaneously with many alarmist pieces about cyber crimes.

People in their formative years during this period were mostly repeatedly told the things you said: Never put out any personal information online or the pedos will get you.

This has been lost in the intervening years as the spectre of social media and the hunger for data has led to all of the same people who were warning us not to put our personal info online... putting their personal info online.

Whoa, she was retarded AND looked retarded? Nice

Yeah keep in mind they knew his whole history and really didn't like him. We only knew what they were allowed to say.

>Diddled a kid and suddenly wants to marry someone of legal age
That's weird

Yeah the DA even said afterwards they charge everything they can think of to leverage pleas and max the sentences. Seems like bullshit to me.

>a previous conviction for diddling an 8 year old boy
ok, thats bad, but you convicted him of having consensual sex with a legal age girl, and then because he recorded it, piled on a mountain of bullshit over the bare facts:

>It was consensual
>She was legal age
>the retard stuff sounds like lawyer bs

So now he's going to jail for life, and the taxpayers pick up the tab.

Nice job, kike.

>land of the free
>get raped in prison by black men because you fucked a fully developed girl

HAHAHA

>Doesn't help their algorithms are shit and Amazon keeps recommending me to buy a laptop right after I buy a laptop

I fucking hate how youtube safaris are literally impossible now. The whole sidebar that USED to be 'related videos' is now almost entirely populated by videos in the same channel/playlist as the one you are watching, and the rest is shit you've already seen. Sometimes some shit youtube is REALLY trying to push for that sick ad revenue

As for the rape question, the way the law is written it's considered actual fucking rape if she can't legally consent, even if she tells the guy yeah go ahead fuck me.

while that may be true in general I believe that the main problem with giving away all your information online is that a huge number of people is not porperly educated about the consequences of their foolish carelessness. ive heard stories of people fucking themselves over on job applications because their fb profile or any of their account profiles for that matter was a complete mess. its just not healthy to make a glass body online if you have no idea why you should/shouldnt do it in the first place. people are just too dumb to care or think about it for a second.

This must be pne of those maybury towns where lynchings only ended in 1989.
The guy is lucky she was 17, because had she been younger like the boy was, and it was 35 years sooner, they'd have picked him un brine.

How the fuck is he supposed to know? Do we have to consult a fucking psychologist and her doctor for her health history before fucking a girl?
All this "cannot consent" stuff while the women says "fuck me" is completely retarded.

>now hes going to jail for life
Breh, he wont have access to children again. Victimization of the community by said criminal has been reduced to zero.

Lol

Yes, she consented. Yes, he is going to jail. They had doctors and experts that all said she was too mentally handicapped to consent, and as I pointed out he failed to rebuff any of it. Real court isn't like TV, you have very rigid rules you have to follow in deciding.

>As for the rape question, the way the law is written it's considered actual fucking rape if she can't legally consent, even if she tells the guy yeah go ahead fuck me.
Then why wasn't he charged in the first encounter and not after trying to scramble his fucking collection? If the girl was basically not authorized to have consent in the first place then the cop could had arrested them then and there.

ITT: pedos who would rape mentally handicapped children defending a convicted kiddy diddler.
One less child molester on the streets, also he might actually get killed in prison. good job US justice system.

If you talked to her long enough she seemed a little off. They said he should've realized she was handicapped. Plus she was attending school over the internet for special ed kids, which should also have tipped him off.

Keked

>How the fuck is he supposed to know?
Breh, hes supposed to court her for a short period of time, then meet her parents before even holding her hand.

Not a pedo. Hebophile. For fuck sakes. Get it right

Parents collect mad benefits for a tard kid even over 18.

Nonsense, it's en vogue these days for college bitches to claim she didn't consent because of alcohol or something if they feel like a slut the next day for hooking up in a bar.
I'm against this bullshit. A guy picking up a girl cannot know if she has some psychological issue.