1. Marxism is the most powerful scientific doctrine. It is the only theory that offers an explanation as to how societal constructs arise from simpler and natural conditions, attempts to analyse them in a rational and materialistic fashion.
Because of this, literally every sociological and politological innovation has arose from Marxism, including the criticism of democracy (western constitutionalism), and communism itself (concepts like authoritarianism/ totalitarianism etc.)
2. As Engels coined it, the dichotomy "Socialism or Barbarism". It means that there are 3 ideas about a future of humanity: I. "We must return to the good ol' days and forever conserve soceity like that" II. "Humanity doesn't deserve a future/I don't care about its future" III. Communism as an Ideal and Socialism as a milestone.
That is why it is so resilient. Ultimately, every political and social organisation will co opt it. When the Soviet Union collapsed, it seemed like it's over. But Communist and socialist forces all over the world withstood and pushed back. Catholic Church that used to be staunchly anticommunist now has an unofficial Liberation Theology follower at its' head. Social democratic and labourist parties are returning to their Marxist roots. Socialism gains holding where it was never present.
Chile is somewhat better than the other LA countries, and they enjoyed a pretty nice development. Pinochet's Chilie, however, was a similar political and economic fiasco to Maduro's Venezuela.
China had an economic growth of approximately 10% for more than 70 years, and still provides the maximum growth possible, compared with extremely efficient social and political foresight. It is a fact. All latin American countries face a deep economic and political crisis every several decades or so, since their independence. It is very communist of me to observe and present the facts as they are.
Hudson Harris
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Henry Wood
Humans have short memories. Also, the majority of humans are below the average intelligence required to understand why socialism/communism fails.
Brandon Johnson
>It is a fact. All latin American countries face a deep economic and political crisis every several decades or so, since their independence. It is very communist of me to observe and present the facts as they are. Deflection, deflection... It's "Workers of the world, unite", not "Workers of the world, unite (except those guys, they are failures)".
William Sanders
>making excuses for your failures
Nathaniel Cox
Nope, Marxism was one of those modern inventions that abused the authoritative appeal of the idea of science over substance. Ancient Greeks and Romans have more to say about decent workable government than any of those socialist theorists. The fact they got a few, out of many, conclusions right doesn't validate the faulty reasoning behind them.
Angel Torres
Communism is "so resilient" because assholes like you think there's no way it could be wrong, even though since it's inception it was always about taking from those who made everything and giving it to those who never worked for anything in their lives. Communism is an ideology for parasites who do nothing to further the betterment of their country as it serves to bring everyone down to an "equal" level with no opportunity to allow growth because then they wouldn't be equal in the commune.
Tyler Rodriguez
It's not that difficult. I think socialism appeals most to a certain intelligence level, say like 110iq where you're smart enough to be tricked by complicated ruses that play on your own opinion of your intelligence.
Eli Harris
there is not an atom of logic, evidence, science, beauty, intelligence, in anything joos invented, only aberrations & injustice, no wonder they get kicked from everywhere
Asher Adams
Communism is unstoppable and unbeatable because it is a Jewish ideology and the Jewish people are of the synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9King James Version (KJV)
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Anthony King
Are you trying to outschizo OP?
Brody Scott
The only one who have never failed are the ones who have never done a thing. Like lolbertarians. The theory, however, is justified by success cases. And you fascists, although not at the same pathetic level as Ancaps, actually have none.
Not at all. I don't suggest that LA shouldn't be a part of a worldwide state and society. I merely point out the facts about their own history.
Brody Howard
>I merely point out the facts about their own history. >Latin America will always be failed, no matter the ideology.
Eli Turner
China is also a hive of insect people where if 500 miners die in a mine collapse they simply just bulldoze the hole over. Are you saying that we should become like China? How very, Communist of you.
Dylan Clark
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Aiden Robinson
>which say they are Jews, and are not Sounds like the Judeo-Christians helping build settlements for the Jews. What a massive waste of time it is. They should be out performing charity or doing mission work.
Isaac Reyes
Who won the cold war? ah rigtht not communism
Parker Howard
China has a life expectancy of 75 years, which is pretty high for a country like theirs.
Are you saying that mining accidents only happen in China?
Wyatt Bell
>China >Communist
Haha yeah in name only, faggot
Elijah Foster
Pic related Average supermarket in communism
Wyatt Davis
Communist prosperity
Levi Brooks
>Who won the cold war? ah rigtht not communism
Soviet Union lost the Cold War. But Communism is much, much more than the Soviet Union.
Brody Lewis
AHAHAHAHAHAAHA >Pinochet's Chilie, however, was a similar political and economic fiasco From one of the poorest to richest country in south America in 50 years. >"this will show them capitalism doesn't work" His market reforms weren't reversed when he left office you, fucking moron. lol hahaha
Gabriel Phillips
>All successful communist feats are not real communism.
Same old, same old.
Cooper Hill
Communism was a reaction to the industrial revolution.
We live in post industrial societies in the west.
The third world could use communism with all the factories and manufacturing that happens in India, China, Mexico, Indonesia, Pakistan .
Jordan Ortiz
>SCIENTIFIC anytime a (((marxist))) talks about science he's trying to sell you something
Jack Phillips
>>All successful communist feats are not real communism. Yeah, becoming a for-profit manufacture leader is the best feat of communism.
Christopher Long
See pic related, the only way communism works
Nathaniel Bell
She went from NatSoc to Strasserism to Communism?
Gavin Jackson
lol
Chase Morris
Also, gommunism is resilient because it's the exclusive domain of the 115-130 iq brainlets, the dunning-kreuger crowd, the kind of substandard genius for whom slave religions hold their strongest attraction.
Matthew Thompson
Literally Venezuela right now
Carson Morris
Too bad no ideology can fix her ugly mug.
Kevin Cox
There's no communism in China, just capitalism with the state being the only player alongside the shittier social aspects of commie censorship. Basically California but with infrastructure made out of actual garbage.
Pic very related
Camden Brooks
Please stop posting this shitty image, it was written by a fucking retard with a gross misunderstanding of hegel
Matthew King
But that's not real socialism
Tyler Perez
>literally garbage NEVER CHANGE CHINA
Adam Campbell
It is a shame that noone has so far adressed my arguments in the OP, and the thread has devolved to the standard intellectual level of Sup Forums and same old shitty memes. Checking out for now.
Ayden Sanchez
Which image?
Dylan Collins
If I could go back in time, I'd murder Marx and Engels.
Anthony Morgan
I'd fund it and adopt your family as my own.
Jaxson Rivera
Why do always run away from discussion? It's like they're afraid to defend their shitty ideas because they always get btfo of their own threads
Luke Harris
>my arguments Bringing some shitty statements and claiming that they're true does not turn your faggy post into an argument.
Caleb Long
>Why do always run away from discussion? I Why do *communists always run away from discussion?
Kevin Diaz
nah dude aint real socialism ;)
Justin Gomez
Awww, first time getting BTFO? Here's a cute little anime girl to heal your commie feefees
Communism is nearly 200 years old. In all this time there has not been a single successful Communist state which did not also engage in human rights violations -- the very same violations naive Communists preach is answered and stopped though Communism.
National Socialism was designed and implemented in just 14 years, and until the Allied Forces overtook the Reich, had entirely fixed Germany's economic and societal woes, producing 4 years of absolute utopia.
It's time to stop smelling your own farts.
Dylan James
>anarcho >slave Huh.
Xavier Cook
>not knowing what slave morality means
Cameron James
>National Socialism was designed and implemented in just 14 years, and until the Allied Forces overtook the Reich, had entirely fixed Germany's economic and societal woes, producing 4 years of absolute utopia. Stupid wehraboo does not know about Germany's external debt?
Christian Lee
It's another episode of "Commie gets BTFO and pretends he won". Why do they keep doing this to themselves?
Protip: If you fail to convince anyone that your idea has merit, maybe the idea is the problem.
Levi Flores
You're retarded
Josiah Baker
Sorry, my anarcho-primitivist paradise does not know such words.
Carson Baker
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Eli Taylor
External debt is only a problem if those you owe money too can collect ;^)
Jaxon Evans
found the butthurt communist
Isaac Thompson
The entire war against Germany, as Churchill stated, was that Hitler developed a new system (NatSoc) which threatened to rob the Jews of their money. Post yfw realizing Hitler was the first person to fight what we today call the NWO.
Oliver Nguyen
it literally collapsed on itself when they ran out of food
Carson James
When you don't pay back, you stop getting more money, and then your food rationing turns to famine, and you're forced to try to survive by invading and looting your neighbors
Levi Thompson
Read any communist manifesto and compare it with China's economic policies.
Or, you know, don't. Because we wouldn't want those delusions to stop, you are a source of entertainment here.
Jacob Hughes
>American Capitalism won the war of ideas! >We sure showed those ruskies the errors of Statism by beating them with our largest military and intelligence services in the world, highest national debt of any nation, the highest poverty level among first world nations, and almost complete geopolitcal domination over the Earth!
Wyatt Reed
Sounds dangerously commie if you catch my drift.
>Hitler developed a new system (NatSoc) Yeah, no. His only plan was to go at war.
Zachary Clark
As a Trump Supporter, I love the Russians. Putins a great human being.
Brody Murphy
What distinguishes this from the times it collapsed?
Carter Cox
As a Russian, may I suggest you killing yourself?
Blake Hernandez
even if china fit the communist manifesto to the letter it still wouldnt matter. China is a polluted shithole where literally everything produced is shoddy. 70 million people also died as part of the growing pains of communist china
Liam Cruz
But Trump told me Putin was a great guy. Why would he lie to me?
Elijah Carter
>scientific doctrine >scientific >doctrine
Hudson Hughes
>Why would he lie to me? No (((reason))).
Kayden Fisher
>anarcho primitivist >on the computer browsing the internet k
Thomas Cook
You mean the country with a socialist president who was kidnapped and tortured by the regime ancaps and far right nuts worship?
Nathan Collins
>Yeah, no. His only plan was to go at war. Are you uneducated or simply hoping I am? >pic related
Germany had no intention of going to war.
Blake Gray
No he was bringing the empire back after bolshevik kikes other threw the empire, then went to help Russia to remove their bolshevik kike infestation which overthrew the Tsar's and killed tens of millions.
James Foster
He wasnt kidnapped he shot himself you fucking tard
Sebastian Rivera
>on the computer browsing the internet Umm, what? Are you talking about smoke signals?
Michael Clark
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Poland wants war with Germany >Monaco wants war with USA wew
Carson Sanders
There is no discussion. This is people shouting at each other and failing to form the said discussion.
The point of it is to challenge each other's opinions. However, my opinions are completely unchallenged by all that weak trolling, dank memes and retarded old questions. It seems that my arguments are just the same shot right above youall.
Oh don't you worry. We win where it matters. The academia, the international organisations, the people's minds. You may keep an imageboard for loosers and dropouts.
Oliver Brown
kek
Camden James
>Poland forces war on Germany >Hitler reaches out to the world with peace >Hitler wanted war tho.. wew
Grayson Butler
>my opinions are completely unchallenged I have THE authority to speak for all of the Sup Forums: neither are ours.
Hunter Fisher
quick swedebro what does this mean "Hur Mycket kan du"
Alexander Stewart
Utopians need to be hung by the neck until dead. People like OP are why millions of men have been led to slaughter as lowly serfs under ruthless masters, led by the nose on false promises.
Communism is one such false promise.
Lincoln Cox
>Hitler said a thing Wow, I should totally trust a politician whose views align with mine, that never backfires!
Nathaniel Phillips
Dats right
Fuck jewsa
David Robinson
>Marxism is the most powerful scientific doctrine BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Benjamin Sanchez
Oh don't you worry. We win where it matters. >The academia, the international organisations, the people's minds. You may keep an imageboard for loosers and dropouts.
Might equals right commie we have the military and the police and the working class. you have a bunch of decadent middle class faggots who smoke weed and fuck each other. Also considering the working class is the most conservative you are going to get royally BTFO if you keep pulling your shit
Andrew Bell
> Marxism is the most powerful scientific doctrine. >It is the only theory that offers an explanation as to how societal constructs arise from simpler and natural conditions
In reality it's one of many theories that fail to acknowledge that the most fundamental "means of production" is an INDIVIDUAL's body, mind/will, time, labor and fruits thereof by default of the fact that such is exclusive to the individual and no other within ANY society.
The US constitution is the greatest document on the planet exactly because securing and protecting [wo]man's property is paramount to all other functions of a just government.