It is not because someone truly believes that it didn't happen, it is because you hope if proven right your meme ideology of NS would stop being taboo again.
Deep down you want to be able to be normies and yet at the same time be able to stick to your ideology. Spineless.
Nah it's just that all nationalism gets compared to nazism nowadays and all you need is one Jew crying about the Shoah to get people's emotions going.
Can you show me a picture of the gas operator room and not just the classical bathroom?
I mean the gas must come from somewhere RIGHT...
Because the deaths in the supposed holocaust actually came from starvation and typhus when their supply lines were bombed by the Allies. The Allies, being the cowards that they are, never wanted to take responsibility for getting so many civilian casualties. That's why they got a movie director to mold the holocaust into their perfect narrative to blame on Germany. It's the ultimate story of "The Allies wur da gud guys we dindu nuffins".
actually it's a foot-in-the-door tactic to make people suspend their disbelief for just long enough to instill them with fringe right-wing beliefs
Sup Forums's """satire""" serves the exact same purpose.
top being such an intolerant bigot and reprehensible naziphobe
>Because the deaths in the supposed holocaust actually came from starvation and typhus when their supply lines were bombed by the Allies.
Did the allies put all these people in concentration camps in the first place too?
answer just one or two of these 46 questions
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i dont expect full answers since they are difficult and complicated questions. can we have a good faith debate though with no name calling? i am not a neo nazi or an anti semite, but i believe the official holocaust story has serious holes - and the revision of numbers in recent years has justified skepticism (I was taught that at least a million were killed at Majdanek, now the official number is 78,000).
I don't deny the serious atrocities comitted by the nazis, it is clear that many people were taken from their homes and forced into camps. But this event has been shown to be propagandized beyond all proportion. Surely you must cede some of this ground!
Holocaust didn't happen. They were work camps that were starved when trade routes to Germans were severed by allied forces. The emaciated look of the Jews confirmed this. If they were killing the Jews, then the number would be confirmable, but it's all over the place. There's never been damning evidence to confirm the holocaust. It's like a boogeyman, similar to the great big bad trump.
More white people died than Jews in World War 2.
Facts are facts.
He is correct. The work camps were never intended to be death camps but due to war time aggression clamping down on supply routes, emaciation became commonplace in work camps.
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I wouldn't argue who's to blame fo the deaths outright. Passing the blame is just throwing up walls. Start with disproving the gas chambers as the sole issue. Historical fact over propaganda, even concede (i know concessions seem verboten but hear me out) that Germans had to make a decision to stop supplying the camps because they didn't care for the malcontents over their own, and compare it to Japanese and German internment by America. It's obvious Natsoc Germany never wanted these people in their society, but to pretend they hated them so much as to leave an invisible monetary sink to kill them via subversion in the middle of war is silly soviet propaganda.
Really do work the Soviet angle, it opens the jews as communist redpill, shows the divide of nationalist people and communist diaspora and the malice between them. It helps frame jews and their wishes as the other. Optics are important, this has to be about explicitly historical accuracy, let all the implicit nation-state relationship stuff that involves Jews have to be realigned around that seperately.
have you seen the pictures of these so called gas chambers? wooden doors? really?
you expect us to believe they made gas chambers with wooden doors?
wooden doors that open inwards?
Did the gas chambers really have wooden doors that didn't seal?
Just curious
>Asks a question and then proceeds to answer it himself
OP I think you suffer from autistic faggotry , very serious amd needs medical attention.
Saged
>lol fuck white ppl I hope they all die
>OMG how can you be a white nationalist that's hateful!!!!
In America we put japanese into camps.
My goal is to get people to mock the holocaust and not give a shit about some dead jews family
the holocaust is vastly blown out of proportion to keep people scared to criticize the jews... just saying
what's the point in spreading lies about the death count? that's done all the time when people mention the holocaust and in spite of the number of deaths being hugely exaggerated it's "wrong" to question it
couldn't it be a matter of idk... the jews who control the media and many big businesses etc playing on sympathy through lies as a method of control?
seems plausible to me when you look at the actual facts behind the holocaust
Bump
Point out why Hitler never used gas. You know, how he got gassed, changed his mustache and refused to use it on enemies in WW2 because of it. Then ask, if his army had a surplus, why wouldn't they use that instead of delousing agents?
so we don't keep bowing down to jews and their jew demands because poor me we wuz in gasz chambers and shiet
We did the same up here.
you win dumbest thread of the day
>What is the goal of denying Holocaust and gas chambers? Anonymous (ID: F1PGE0Jc) 06/30/17(Fri)15:21:07 No.131883
No retard the Allies did not put those people in concentration camps. But that's not the point. The point is that the concentration camps were not the death camps they're portrayed to be.
the allies just put other people into concentration camps and in places like the us where only pearl harbor was actually attacked the camps/prisoners were safe from military attacks by opposing forces
it's almost like a safer location for a concentration camp causes less problems
i wonder why the nazi camps weren't safe... couldn't have been the allied forces actively attacking; no way right?
sorry should've also quoted i meant to add to your point
A better question is why you retarded leftists always have to talk about muh feelings and muh motives.
You idiots can't even comprehend the concept that someone might be speaking what they're thinking.
Leftist brainlet pieces of shit do this all the time. They never address the facts, they simply look at the person speaking the truth and ask ''oy vey, why is he saying this? What is his motive? What emotions is he feeeeeeeeeeeling?''
These pieces of shit to this every single time.
i'm on the left ideology wise, i still know the holocaust is vastly overblown garbage used by jews (who control the media and big business) to manipulate people
not everyone on the left is the same person, it's not like it's the borg or some shit
And Germans
And Italians
What's the goal?
Truth
This
Define the left and explain how you're one of them
Source?
It's just because it triggers faggots like you OP
the holocaust is the cornerstone of the new state religion for the goyim
it's at the top of the legal pyramid
it is the most sacred victims narrative
we honor their fictional deaths and iignore the deaths of our own ancestors which they perpetrated
it is the spearhead of the white genocide agenda
they use it openly and literally to justify white genocide, in word and in policy
Wanting to "be a normie" and convincing normies of the truth are two extremely different things.
Kikes constantly shit on everything whites hold sacred and ridicule whites as inbred hillbillies, why shouldnt whites mock the most sacred event in Jewish history in return
Economically the left is socialistic. Socially the left values collectivism over individualism.Some may say that National Socialism is actually a leftist ideology.
and a retarded post at that:showing lack of argumentation skill and even of understanding of our position
but we dont care, we still lay down the law and the redpill
i believe that the government (not the current one, that's beyond repair and needs to be scrapped and rebuilt from the ground up) should provide things like healthcare, housing, and education to its people
i see no point in obeying laws and accepting a government that doesn't benefit people on any of the most basic levels people need to survive
serves no purpose as far as i'm concerned
i also think the fixation on money is rather useless though i don't necessarily think it should be completely abolished (i see nothing wrong with small businesses for example)
at the same time i'm pro a lot of social freedoms and pro gun etc because i don't believe a government should have that much power over what should be personal matters or in the case of guns necessary freedoms
>Deep down you want to be able to be normies and yet at the same time be able to stick to your ideology
Or maybe because they want their ideology to become state and throw cuckolds like you out of helicopters straight into the oven (after a fair trial)
But no, it's not a tool.
>asks a question
>then proceeds to tell you the answer
i recommend suicide
>I mean the gas must come from somewhere RIGHT
Holes in the ceiling.
>Because the deaths in the supposed holocaust actually came from starvation and typhus when their supply lines were bombed by the Allies. The Allies, being the cowards that they are, never wanted to take responsibility for getting so many civilian casualties.
Name me one concentration camp whose supply lines were irreparably damaged by allied bombing so that historians can conclude the inmates suffered because of the allied bombing. If you say Nordhausen, you lose because that was not a concentration camp.
first, kindly answer the questions in pic related
>There's never been damning evidence to confirm the holocaust.
Explain the census difference between pre-war Jewish world population (16 million) and post-war Jewish world population based on the first actual post-war census in 1949 (11 million).
>you expect us to believe they made gas chambers with wooden doors?
nobody, neither historian, nor camp authority, is trying to tell anyone the pictured wooden door in your pic is an Auschwitz homicidal gas chamber door.
why is a proper seal so important? the clothes delousing chambers had wooden doors that didnt seal fully. yet nobody in a radius around the delousing chambers was killed...why? because zyklon-b rapidly loses its toxicity when it is vented into the open air.
please tell me what you are trying to say with this image.
btw all this being said i do think when it comes to money citizens really should start considering alternatives since currency substitution is a right and would help crash things in places that need to be taken out
First step to realizing the breadth and depth of the Jewish deception
Spoken like a true Communist.
That's not the point either. The point is they rounded up people to use as slave labour, and they worked them to death in inhuman conditions. Blaming the allies bombing supply lines for their death is beyond unfair. If they couldn't feed the prisoners, they could just let them go
BTW I'm not being sarcastic. This is a Communist viewpoint.
if you'd rather continue to base your life around jewish controlled money i suppose that's your choice, but it's not doing the world any favors
What I don't understand is the same people that say the holocaust is a lie, still support it's motive of extermination.
Yeah I'm sure you've toured the facilities and arent just basing this on a random picture you saw on the internet.
It came from a diesel truck that also emitted carbon monoxide and could kill 70 people in 40 minutes. It's well documented.
What germany did was no better or worse than USA did to japs; only...the Americans were better supplied. Thats why we keep arguing to remove holocaust stigma, its bullshit used to bash down nationalism. Once holocaust meme dies it will help us grow bigly
You are a special kind of stupid aren't you?
What's hard to understand about that?
>What germany did was no better or worse than USA did to japs
Please tell me more about all the back breaking hard labor Japanese Americans had to do from dawn till dusk in the internment camps.
hey (((AAOOROOON)))
do you have any autopsy reports of victims who were gassed?
well i said i was on the left, i'm just extremely far from being an authoritarian
anarcho-communist (not antifa, they're a bunch of poorly organized retards attacking the wrong things/people and striking emotionally, recklessly, and ineffectually) so yeah...
still it's just one tool to bringing down corruption, even if communism wasn't instated after a revolution is still necessary given the current state of corruption in the government/big business/the media
part of hurting those groups would be currency substitution, but obviously there's a lot more to it
devaluing what gives your masters power is part of the process of taking back control
It really is pathetic OP
>GAS THE NIGGERS AND KIKES
>You know Hitler never gassed anyone right? He was the good guy!
fucking NS doublethink.
What's the point in denying the holocaust if you support killing the jews anyway? Why not just embrace what Hitler did to them?
Because the truth is more important than a history I would have preferred.
We do it for the lulz
just because a point in history was grossly exaggerated doesn't mean there's no logic behind the idea of it
hitler wasn't wrong about jews being largely in control of major things and where their loyalties actually lie
of course that doesn't extend to every jew, but let's be real here what hitler had an issue with is still one today
why do you think the us is so far up israel's ass? fighting their wars for their "chosen people" laying down american lives for their bullshit etc
>want to be normies
who on their right mind would want to have anything to do with those plebs, i'm an aristocrat of the soul man.
I don't understand your point or care either. It doesn't matter if Hitler was right or wrong or average or whatever. The important thing is that the holocaust did not happen anything like it's portrayed in history books. Jew's were not gassed to death and there were no gas chambers. There is countless evidence supporting that and literally none suggesting otherwise.
I've spent a long time researching this and made a thread two days ago where we broke down all of the main arguments. There is literally nothing proving it happened and tons of things proving it didn't.
I don't care how you interpret the meaning of that, commie.
the fact is the holocaust is exaggerated to play to people's sympathy towards the jews and making it hard to criticize them
why spread misinformation knowingly and willingly whether you're a sympathizer or not?
of course I do:
holocaustcontroversies (dot) blogspot (dor) in/2012/09/friedrich-paul-berg-yelled-for-photos (dot) html
now can this stale "no autopsy of any gassing victim was ever done" copy pasta die? thanks.
Communism sounds good, but there is a few problems. You use socialism to take down capitalism. However, the goal is eventually take down the state as well. What makes you think a government would give up it's control when you gave it so much power through socialism. I think once people are in power, they want to keep it.
For me it's not about politics but rather the truth and what actually happened. the story we've been fed quite frankly is logistically impossible. I'm not saying people weren't gassed, but the numbers just can not be. It's claimed 6k were gassed a day at Auschwitz's peak. The process of filling the gas chambers with hundreds of people, gassing them, removing the bodys by hand and then cremating them. It's just not possible.
link an archive, or gtfo
The point is not blindly believing that 6 million people were killed while offered no evidence supporting that claim
How is that impossible?
I wanna know why they were gassing Jews with pesticides?
If the holohoax is a hoax, why would they hoax it so incompetently?
People who deny the holocaust are ashamed of it and the criticism that they would receive for supporting it.
If you believe Hitler was right then you should openly celebrate it and be angry or sad that it wasn't completed.
why gas them with expensive tabun or sarin if a pesticide does the same job in 20 mins?
that's the nature and risk of any form of government isn't it?
i'm pro gun and people having access to some military grade weapons as a means of providing a check to those in power (completely support the idea behind the second amendment and think it's extremely important that people actually acknowledge and utilize that right to check the government and exert a form of control)
capitalism is just as corrupt as any other system can be, just look at the state of the world and the us under it
power isn't something that can be taken lightly and there will always be problems, however i don't see that as a reason to keep doing something that isn't working out just because it's what we're used to
Is that a serious question? Look it up on YouTube there's a bunch of videos explaining how retarded the numbers are.
I honestly think it has to do with experience. Ive traveled, im another aspiring engineer. It should be physically observable that killing 6million jews would need 5 trains back and forth with dedicated rail systems more complex than new york. On top of that, walls made of human bones an baseball field sized crypts could only hold 60k people. It makes you question things when you visit Auschwitz. Probably the creepiest feeling in the entire world. You can feel the death, but as you look around you cant imagine that many people. If you dont question you dont think therefore you are a sheep
because they were unfamiliar with the science, and arrogant
if it's true, why are there laws against questioning it?
No, Zyklon was a pesticide developed for farmers.
Tell me how you know these other nerve agents are somehow more expensive to produce instead of repurposing the German equivalent if Raid.
You can't because the Holocaust didn't happen and the Jews are losing moral authority over the goyim.
>giving him a source that actually requires reading and not an infographic for retards
>11 million, or even 6 million people were all killed in the camps
The autism of these memes' maker never ceases to amaze me.
>posting a nazi flag but complains about nazism on a nazi board
supporting an ideology shouldn't come at the price of denying facts
Sage
>someone truly believes that it didn't happen
I believe it didn't happen. I spent a whole month researching and my opinion kept shifting between the two, mostly because Jews are so adept at bullshit and lies
It didn't happen
It doesn't.
They didn't really have a lot of time. A lot was gradually added over time after the fact, but most of the buildings and rooms were already there. They just lied about the purposes of each room.
I'll post links in a minute if you're actually curious
They put their own enemies in their concentration camps, they just didn't get bombed so not as many of them died. They also won which meant they could accuse the losers of whatever they wished.
There are only laws against questioning it in some countries. Is it a hoax in some countries and true in others?
It's mainly because american germ invaders don't want to go to concentration camps like the chinks did during ww2. Not that there is anything wrong with that, i wish we did that a long time ago here.
Oh wow a holocaust thread.
Whenever I make one about debunking all your shit holocaust denying trash, my thread gets instantly deleted by some literaly nazi janitor.
Stop calling it a denial when people question the statistics, logistics, motives, and morality.
Your fantasy story version of the holocaust is a denial of reality already. Questioning those base assumptions is merely a pursuit for truth and accuracy.
Why do you have a problem with the pursuit for truth?
If the facts were solid (i.e. they are actually facts) then we wouldn't have to question them so much.
>I spent a whole month researching
>a whole month
Would you like a medal?
>It doesn't.
Please explain to everyone in this thread why you believe hydrogen cyanide outgassing from Zyklon-B pellets does not kill 1500 people in a room within half an hour.
One really telling thing are the "experts" in disproving holocaust deniers. Meaning they're experts on proving why the holocaust really happened.
Only problem is they don't ever have any arguments. Their "proof":
>people still believe Elvis is alive
>Neo Nazis deny the holocaust
guess what, pale nerd, turns out the """"holodomor"""" is also fake, because there's a law against questioning it somewhere: en.wikipedia.org
Post proof now then. A lot of people are genuinely curious because it's hard to find .