Christ was a Leftist

Is Marxist thought the logical outcome of Christian doctrine?
>freedom
>equality
>slaves becoming the masters
Defend yourselves, Christcucks

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Yes, as a christian, communism makes the most sense.

Christianity is entirely based on voluntary action so no.

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Is this bait? Pick up any of the great Russian Christian writers even once and you will know exactly what they thought of communists. Communism isn't an extension of Christian thought, it was an attempt to create a purely rational doctrine.

what denomination

I should have specified in the OP that I'm referring to Roman Catholic doctrine, specifically.

>freedom
Freedom from determinism, nothing else. Give to Caesar what is Caesar's.
>equality
Not material equality, Christ was against absolute equality in his parable of the Talents. He championed the inequality of man as being a virtue in its own right, different opportunities at different levels of existence.
The equality of Christ is a spiritual one, that no man is barred from freely choosing a moral existence, that's not a bad equality, its fundamentally the most good type of equality.
>slaves becoming masters
This was never a thing. Nietzsche was as autistic in this critique as he was when he said Socrates was a fool because truth doesn't exist. It's pure autism. Christianity doesn't have slaves becoming masters it has men obeying the natural hierarchy of their lives. Kings have a divine right to be kings, servants have a divine right to be servants.
If you think this limits your mobility and makes Christianity a slave religion then tough nuts, nature limited your mobility, your parents did, you yourself do every time you choose something other than the hardest most difficult thing you could do.
Nietzsche was insane and pro-Jewish,

I meant Roman Catholicism, not Christianity in toto

Obviously (most) Protestants are devout capitalists

"give unto caesar what is caesar's"
Jesus explicitly avoided any political activism despite everybody's expectation that the Messiah would overthrow Roman rule of Jerusalem. Pretty sure it isn't my dude.

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>Yes, as a pagan, communism makes the most sense.
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Communism was against Christianity. Christianity didn't create its own demise, the free will of men created the demise of Christianity and its son the West.
We've no one to blame but ourselves. You want to fix it, it starts with yourself.

>Christ was a Leftist

Using leftist/rightist in situations prior to parliamentary democracies is retarded.

>defend yourselves against these baseless assertions I'm making

nope

Yeah but things were extremely right on the political spectrum at that point in history. There had never been "leftists" before.

You do know what a political spectrum is, don't you? How about perspective? Do you know what word too?

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>>freedom
>>equality
>>slaves becoming the masters

implying that leftist have something to do with actual equality, actual freedom, actually being for 'the workers'

quite the opposites. leftists are the worst oppressors of them all.

Leftist is degradation, "Demons" are degradators. Jesus expeled them because He was the grower. Curing is anti-degradation.
He didn't come to (((order))), He came to serve.
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Futhermore, sage.

In a way yes, but at the same time no. It palces an emphasis that the weak are more valuable than the strong, and that ultimately, the strong are evil. However, christiantiy does not say it is impossilbe for a rich man to get into heaven. He just said it was really improbable. That being said, capitlalism, as communism, requires a strong moral system to back it up. How that system is done is dependent upon the role of the indiviudal. And in this sense, christianity more aligngs with capitalism, but not greedy capitalism. And not commuism, because sloth and not working for your own shit is a sin.

>pay your taxes to caesar
>Share freely with your brothers.
The Kingdom of Heaven is not a material kingdom (a political system).
sage

>It palces an emphasis that the weak are more valuable than the strong, and that ultimately, the strong are evil.
How does it place the weak above the strong? Meek and Mild denotes Wisdom not cowardice. Read what the Pagan Saxons thought of being Humble in old age. Only fools are prideful when they grow old. Thus are the words of The Wanderer.
Christianity places Strength and Weakness on multiple spectrums, not just the physical one. To be physically strong while morally weak is useless, just as it is useless to be morally strong and physically weak. Christianity impels men to make themselves hard of body, mind, and soul.

Neitzche has a lof of good criticisms about christiniaty. I get there is some shit and that people may not nessicarly argree with him, but that's okay because he does bring up valid points.
Mainly:
> Christiantiy gives an exuscuse for the weak
"belssed are the weak and poor"
> It is nearly impossible for a rich man to get into heaven for their attachment to material goods
communists would agree

However, where christianity seems to be along with capitalism what you said here
"Christianity places Strength and Weakness on multiple spectrums, not just the physical one. To be physically strong while morally weak is useless, just as it is useless to be morally strong and physically weak. Christianity impels men to make themselves hard of body, mind, and soul."

but again. It isn't completely far right capitlaist menality because if the strong don't take care of the weak, they are useless. Neitzche completely disagreed with that and thought that it was along the lines of socialist thinkers.

also. He thought there were similarities between socialists and Christianity. He thought christianity as well as socialists, resented life. He thought that they hated the idea of pain and struggle so they thought to releive it in others as a projection of their hatred of the world. For Nietzche, this was the worst thing you could do. But rather, you are actually keeping down the weak because you aren't helping them rise up to the best they can be by going beyound good and evil and taking on your pain. Accepting the will for life even if that means taking pain to get what you want. It doesn't mean live without morals, but to move beyond the notions of good being pleasure and pain being evil. Both are nessicary to be accepted in order to affirm life.

Christ said "if you have 2 clothes give one to the man in need"
He didn't say "make a system that forcibly takes shit from people who don't want to give it and redistribute it"
You fucking retarded commies.
It's about free will and the individual choice to help.

I agree. He could be seen as a centrist or like an extremely moral capitalist. You know. Like a capitalist society that promotes charity whenever possible and reasonable.

He wouldn't be a commie because he nows people are lazy and willl leech off of people. But he may not be entirely capitlaist because it can promote being overly selfish. He had a lot of cricisms about holding a lot of material goods rather than looking forward to the kingdom of heaven.

>Jews are the forefathers of marxism, communism, and the left in general
>(((christianity))) is communist

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