What's wrong with communism?

It's obviously not perfect, but it seems more fair than capitalism, which is based on greed.

humans are based on greed.

Both are jewish

Sounds like something a nigger world say

>communism
>a global society where EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL decides to provide for every one else, eliminating the need for money, state, and social hierarchy, and everyone just live peacefully together

It's OBVIOUSLY the perfect. How the fuck is communism not an utopia? It's exactly because it's so fucking out of touch with reality, that it's just not practical.

it could work but would take a lot of careful consideration to be successful. maybe far in the future when most jobs are automated

yes, it really is a much fairer life in the best korea than in the us

>turning 95% of the population into a disposable slave worker for the benefit of the (((state)))

Gee, I wonder what is wrong with communism.

the only thing that communism and socialism do is make the rich poor

and the poor starve to death, all the while making the people who run it insanely wealthy.

people are naturally greedy. therefore to have communism all the people must give up their freedom to the government. and because people are naturally greedy, the people running that government fuck the people over. add to that the fact that when there's no incentive to work people aren't motivated to. so you basically have to enslave people and force them to work for next to nothing or send them off to the gulag. so people only put in the bare minimum to stay alive because there's no incentive to do anything more. capitalism isn't perfect, but it's infinitely better than communism. because communism is for retards.

Supply is limited. Markets and prices allocate limited supply.

look at that fat fuck and tell me his life is more fair than that skinny worker next to him

That korcean on the left certainly looks happy his murderous overlord/quasi deity came by to inspect the job he's doing. "Zug Zug!" as they say and what not, stiff spine under the lash cheerio pip pip.

north korea is far, far from communism. it's literally more fascist than communist.

>Hiding your flag
>Making these threads
>Sage

Show me an instance of fair communism and you'd be less laughable.

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Fair in a sense that everyone is poor. It's the lazy man's ideology.

Kills too many people. Good for the upper elite, bad for the people. But call it "people's" Republic, army etc. and they sometimes fall for it.

>b but that wasn't real communism.
We get these threads every few months when the indoctrinated kids graduate.

It never becomes communism.

>fairer

The world isn't fair, nothing about it is. That's what many leftists don't understand. Every time they attempt to enforce egalitarianism, they say "We're trying to even the playing field" and claim that they are elevating the weak to the same level as the strong. Only issue is that it's impossible, evolution made sure of that. It starts with "fairness" and "equality", and when they realize that they can't achieve that without taking the lives and livelihood of the strong, the only remaining action is pretty straightforward.

No two humans are ever equal in any one task. The sooner you realize that, the sooner the strong and capable can create new technologies, new methods and new works that make the lives of the weak better than any life that can be created by tearing down the strong and in that action: dooming themselves.

what the hell is that?

The worker on the left wishes he could eat that. That's communism.

Look at the weight of the clearly malnourished worker and the plump benevolent "leader". Communism in theory is an intention to give ownership to the worker but everytime has been used as a method to dispose of intellectual resistance and expand government into a class divide far greater than capitalism could ever conceive.
Does capitalism have flaws? Of course but capitalism does not exceed government, the ideal of capitalism is strictly economic theory with as much as the government allows, the ideal of communism is government theory with so much as the economy allows.
When chambers of commerce got together in the SSR do you believe they discussed the tenants of Marxism? Of course not, they discussed profitable transactions on a price cost probability and what would deem most useful to a world market, when you understand that communism is simply used to distance government from the peoples and "seize the means of production" as Karl Marx put it, is when you understand that Marx was nothing but a mouth piece for the Rothschild political gambit and the "workers" revolution was used to sew the largest economic disparity in human history but those poor saps didn't know any better, the fruits of their labor stolen from them for the growth of an all controlling government entity that went nation to nation dealing the most wicked venom as a cure all to the least of men, only to be slaughtered in the oncoming purges when the corporate and state became one entity completing the Jewish god of Mammon for the whole world to bare witness.

It's grease, have you never worked on something mechanical?

>no individual freedom
>no personal properties
>everybody is a literal slave to the system
>it's totally against human nature
of all retarded and non humane political systems it's the most retarded and cruel by far

I'm not interested in mass starvation or mass genocide.

>the only motivation to become a commie isn't greed and envy
keep telling yourself that

>What's wrong with communism?

Everything.

yes but i dont think i ever did see grease like that more like dark orange

OP is clearly dumb and uneducated

>you aren't satisfied with current situation
>you work harder
>gov't takes away your money
>you worked harder, but got nothing out of it
>nobody works hard
>nobody works, because government will help you anyway
>eternal worldwide nigger ghetto

couldn't have said it better

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Sounds like capitalism

Posting another redpill for good measure.

>rich guy left the country
well duh, then we should have murdered them all to get their monies.

>rich fag dead
>== monies + another psycho gone
win-win

Fine dumbass,since you are obviously to much of a mouthbreathing retard to understand why your failure of system will never work,I will very carefully explain it to you.

Imagine this: You & your hypothetical coworker Dan are working the same job at the same company.Since this company is highly successful,employees can potentially get paid very high amounts of money.Because you are very good & efficient at your job,you get paid 125$ and hour,you also get lots of benefits,paid leave,and all sorts of financial security nets that the company pays for. Dan,on the other hand,is lazy,unproductive,terrible at his job,frequently shows up late,and is a huge cunt to other employees,including you. Because of this,Dan only gets paid 25$,no benefits,no paid vacation,and constantly works overtime to make up for his lost hours.

Under a capitalist society,this is what would happen,but under a communist society,which is built on economic equality,this is what would happen: First,your salary gets cut by 50$ and is added to Dan's salary,bringing both of your salary's to 75$ an hour. But thats not all! Oh no,Dan ALSO gets to have half of your benefits,because this company is now under communist rule,and everything must be equal.

Do you think its fair that Dan gets a big increase in wages and some fancy new benefits,even though he causes the company more harm that good? Do you think its fair that Dan should receive those benefits even though he did literally nothing to deserve getting that money? Do you think its fair that you should be brought down to a lower level simply because of people like Dan,a bottom feeding parasitic subhuman who treats you like dogshit,even though YOU'RE the reason he has such high wages in the first place.Do you think that is fair? DO you think that's right? Do you think that innocent people should suffer simply because you think you deserve more?

Commonism is fine if it's patriot communism like north korean, cuba, vietnam and greater kurdistan. If it's CONQUER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ABSORB EVERYONE, KILL ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSE US communism then it's shit tier.

Communism is for the people, not the communist

It's not fair to take from the smart and hardworking to the poor by force. And because there's no incentive to do more than the state mandated share it all goes to shit.

Also, funny how the millions of communists on reddit defend their retarded ideology by saying how capitalism has starved over a billion people worldwide, as if a child eating desert is killing a starving child on the other side of the world, while communism can't even save starving people from other countries because they're too busy starving themselves.

OP, you clearly have more privileges than a homeless person in Congo, if you really want to help there's plenty of ways to do it that don't even involve the state or an angry mob taking your belongings at gunpoint. Stop being a nigger and go help them out with your own time and effort if you really care that much, don't threaten others to do the same.

>putting the starving guy on the edge of the picture frame to try and hide his skeleton arms.
There is no peace and happiness in that guy's life, if he's even still alive by now.

Humans are not equal.

That's where you falling for it, kid. It's just words. The people actually are killed or impoverished

I liked it, user.

>put a tyrant into power
>ruin the economy
>kill millions of people
>what's so bad about communism goys?

OBVIOUS JOKE THREAD

The scariest thing about communism is that it doesn't work and always inevitably deteriorates.
The scariest thing about facism on the other hand, is that it works too well. People don't like to be reminded that their obedience is what helps create greatness. It takes a grand leviathan. Not an egalitarian commune. The strong will always prevail and the hierarchy benefits our nature.

>flag checks out
Also look at how tense that worker looks, like he knows that if he smiles he's done for

Basically, if we get rid of the president and let the supreme court run everything, it would be fine.
They would need term limits though.
15 years, elections every 5, via Congressional votes but Congress needs term limits, too. 8 and 12 years, House and Senate.
Nothing shall override the length of term or its limits unless governing power is to be given to the generals.

Crazy thing is you don't actually have to kill the people to kill them. You do something "good" like kill all the sparrows who are "eating the grain". Old farmer warn you they eat bugs, you brush off silly old cout. Next thing you know got 40M+ dead from famine. Oh well you tried. Shrug shoulders, remain communist hero, move on.

>communism

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>The scariest thing about facism on the other hand, is that it works too well. People don't like to be reminded that their obedience is what helps create greatness.
That's probably one of the truest things I've ever read. Fascism just sounds mean, it purposefully includes an authoritarian state, expects absolute loyalty to the nation, takes away democracy, and enforces hierarchy. Very few people think that fascism sounds as pleasant as communism.

Yet you look throughout history at what has actually worked, and its clear that fascism is the tried and true system. Hell, half the reason fascism adores eagles and fasces so much is because much of it is based on the Roman Empire, one of the greatest, most influential, and longest lasting empires to ever exist.

Its true, If not for greed, we wouldnt exist

Communists are fucking insane psychopaths that killed millions of people.

They claim to fight for the working class, when in reality they are all the children of rich upper class people with no connection whatsoever to the working class (which is overwhelmingly right wing by the way). These are extremely dangerous individuals with strange unhinged ideas about the world.

For the good of everyone, we need to stop them from taking power by whatever means possible

No incentive to work hard, manual labor gets paid equally as a scientist, why should the scientist work as hard if his labors are equal to that of a toilet cleaner, who could be half assing his job.

Communism is system that is designed to allow scum-suckers,parasites,the homeless,the worst that society has to offer to usurp the throne from people who worked hard to live the lifestyle that they did. It defies human nature,the desire to better than other people,to win,to have called yourself the victor. This is why Capitalism works,because it takes into account human nature & builds itself around it. It allows people who come from the middle class or even the poor to get rich if they have the intelligence & other desirable traits. Communism undoes all of that,it promotes the idea that you shouldn't try to be better that anyone else,even if they in reality aren't better that you.

Lets not forget to mention the fact that Communism,& by extension,socialism,is a born nation wrecker,name one country that has adopted some form of socialism or communism & not turned into a third world shithole. IF YOUR SYSTEM REQUIRES KILLING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WORK,THEN IT IS A BAD SYSTEM.

No matter how badly you want it,Communism will never come to power,it will always fail because of human nature,it will destroy any nation it seeps into,it will always require killing people in order to make it "work".Get it through your thick skull you subhuman filth.

Paying people for their work isn't greed.

I don't give a shit about my life I'm tired of working 10 hours a day 6 days a week just for a two room apartment so fuck it I wanna try a communism again.

Communism has been proven wrong so many times in history and explained how and why on this board as well, that Marx would shave, get an haircut and change his name.

>Those trips
Thank you Satan.

You can thank the individuality meme for the widespread fear of facism despite its obvious utility. When you convince people that everyone is special, we begin to worship mediocrity and decay. The reality is that only a select few are strong and the rest are weak, subordinate to what should be a grand principle that cannot be denied. God and nation. Every civilisation tv at has denied a foundationalist principle and the dominance hierarchy will burn, it is tested time and time again.

No incentive to create. This is why Russia has such a poor economy; they're reaping the rewards of 100 communist years.

If people can't benefit from new ideas and products because the 'state' is the beneficiary, then why create anything at all? Capitalism creates opportunity because people are allowed to benefit, thus driving the movement. Communism has the state steal all profits.

Because things couldn't get any worse right?

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So you can work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week for a studio apartment?

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Pretty close to subsistence living, really.
"You pretend to pay me, I pretend to work."

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>More fair than capitalism

TOP FUCKING KEK

In communism, you would be working 12h a day 7 days a week with 10 people in one room apartment

there's nothing wrong with communism

most so-called communist countries are actually totalitarian military oligarchies dominating serf communes

that's the problem

communism is based on stupidity of the masses. As soon as one citizen realizes freedom allowed by capitalism then communism dies. Who wants to be delegated a piece of suspect meat when you know the party leaders are getting steak? Brother Josef used to say "All men are equal, some are just more equal than others."

...Mix gender?

>most so-called communist countries are actually totalitarian military oligarchies dominating serf communes
Why is that do you think? Is it because the communist society which is envisioned is actually an impossible utopian fantasy, and when structures of power are destroyed strong men seize control to make things work again?

How many times have we done this dance

>What's wrong with communism?

Well, apparently it's "never been tried".

So either it's very difficult to set up or utter shite and dissavowed every time it fails.

The calculation problem makes greed irrelevant. Even if all people were subservient to the communist state, there's no way to figure out what to produce and in what quantity without markets and prices. The Soviets figured this out very quickly. Soviets tried what has been called "war communism" right away, which was basically full 100% communism and it was beyond disastrous. The reason why the Soviets were even able to survive somewhat as a communist country is because after abandoning full communism, the government would set prices and wages based on what prices in the west were.

thats some good lookin' goo

lol

Fair. Fair. Fair.

In other words, luzers don't like the fact that I kick their sorry asses daily and want a powerful state to make it stop.

It's actually the other way round.

Capitalism is not perfect (elites and nepotism), but it's way better than communism in fulfilling human needs.

Trips of truth

Wut?

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Its extremely wrong cause it is based on a setting where people know how they cheat the system and they dont do it.
Nobody is motivated to work at all let alone to excel at something.

ask people who live or have lived but then escaped from communist countries. you fucking piece of shit.

That's what happens with communism though.

It's like people arguing for communism forget that people do not uphold every principle that makes a system work. And if they did who's to say the next guy will?

The real problem with communism is the lack wiggle room you have to fight against it when it becomes corrupted, at least capitalist countries allow for some agency with their currency and class systems.

Make an estimate of the total muscle weight of the guy on the left and then make an estimate of the total weight of the guy on the right. If that doesn't give you a compelling argument against socialism. No amount of augmented brainpower will remove you from the delusional bubble, you are currently residing in. But then again you are just a fiat shill. saged

>communism has killed millions of people
>that was state capitalism, that doesn't count!
>what does a true communist economic system look like
>forget what I said I LOVE state capitalism!
I'm starting to think """communists""" are all just edgy teenagers who want everybody to starve to death

I really cant forgive the guy for killing qt asian Waifus

Fake news

Greed is a motivator. Greedy people always get to the top. The difference is, that those greedy people can't do as much once at the top in capitalism, as opposed to communism/socialism, where they can do anything.

I know i know
North Korea best korea

>communism is so good they build walls to keep people from leaving

The cuban navy works overtime keeping those american migrants crossing the sea in their rafts away from communist paradise

>fair
>go to prison if you quit your job
OP = faggot

Notice that fat guy on the right is happy?Now take a look of that skinny guy on the left who is not happy.Reminds me of capitalism....really gets the almonds activated...

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Better than based on laysiness.

>authoritarianism
>fair
Well yeah I guess if everyone is eating 200g of rice a day then we're all equally human livestock. But your advocacy is i take away my freedom, which isn't fair, because you didn't use your freedom to its ultimate potential.

Every man has the natural right to freedom, self-defense, and private property. Communism is a usurpation of natural law under the context "he used his free time to find more berries than you and he's not even going to give you any, isn't that just unfair?"

That's the fucking point, they are both the same thing.

It's based on competition, opportunity, and hard work you stupid pinko