I've hears that one of the reasons that the EU is forcing the "cultural enrichment" is to support a dying pension...

I've hears that one of the reasons that the EU is forcing the "cultural enrichment" is to support a dying pension system. Is there any truth in this, and if so then how does that work when almost every refugee is a net negative on govt money thru welfare?

It's a lie justification/propoganda.

They show a graph showing that populations are heavier older than young, that people aren't reproducing enough.

They don't tell you that keeping an old person alive is fucking cheap and easy, and has been managed for thousands of years.

They don't explain what will happen when the new population ages and needs more people to sustain it, and that this is literally the definition of a ponzi scheme: that the old are constantly paid by the new money coming in - but eventually new money runs out/population hits a critical mass where you're living in Indian/Chinese people per square metre.

The narrative is changing constantly
>Syrian fugees
>declining population
>humanitarian reasons
>the pension system
>multiculti is good for economy
>climate change
>chemtrails

I don't think our politicians or media really know why they are genociding us, the just obey to orders from (((above))) while trying to be reelected

Nah m8. Occams razor. They want us whites gone. It is a passive-aggressive genocide.

That's how capitalism works. the companies develop so much they don't need workers, they just need a bunch of specialsts and machines to do the work. They only need people to consume their producs. That way they spend less on inventory costs and on salaries. What Sup Forums needs to understand is that this is the end game of capitalism. The machines produce so much the product can't be stocked or it would take much money. That's the explanation for the EU and the migrant crisis. The end game is not destroying whiteness, that's a side effect. The end game is mantain capitalism as it is.

Nope. Just more bullshit excuses to keep the dummies asleep as they hold open the gates for hostile invaders.

Your Communist Manifesto is showing.

When even the media-trusting people figure out the reason given is bullshit, they're presented with a new reason they trust right away until public discourse eventually makes them realize it war bullshit.

Rinse and repeat

having state pensions is basically nuking yourself

She'd be perfect if she were pure. As it is, she's trash.

third worlders don't work, they only make the problem bigger.

Like most things that corrupt politicians advocate for, it solves a short term want at the cost of long-term well-being. Some corps and their corrupt crony politicians want to get rich now on the backs of cheap labor that won't advocate for worker rights, higher wages, and won't leave the company for better prospects. The price, as always will be payed by future generations. But before that happens, the globalists plan for a world govt. Who cares about national debt in a one-world system?

Just because you can't refute me doesn't mean i am communist. Please point me were i was wrong.
>Ancap flag
Of course you don't know shit of economics.

Do you think that uncle Soros and his bros really give a shit about dying pension system?

Thinks (((capitalism)))isn't at the heart of this.

You mean corporationism

>Over production
>need more migrants to buy

Ah, bc it has nothing to do with the democratic plantation, more support for "democratic" socialism, just that the overstocked Amazon warehouse is a bad thing. When something is over-produced, cost goes down to encourage buying. No need for migrants here.

>>Ancap flag
>Of course you don't know shit of economics.

Teach me, senpai.

I'm over 30 years old and saw the narrative change so many times, it's just sick. They told the pensions will be dying since I can think, abandoned it when they got called out just to bring it again a few years later.

>need more immigrants for our aging population, so the Balkan war refugees are a godsend
doesn't work?
>oh well global cooling, we need to accept africans and other shit ASAP or Europe is done
get busted again
>oh it's our humanitarian obligation to take in millions of incompatible apes you know they have a big famine and we need to import them
oyyyyy veyyyy
>we need a more diverse workforce, those are highly trained professionals, doctors and engineers !!!
illiterate niggers on welfare oy vey busted again
>muh pension, omg goyim buy this shit finally !!!!
ffs fucking goys
>those poor iraqis and africans, we bring the war we have to take care of their refugees in our homeland
that will work or well shit
>remember the global warming, those are climate refugees !!!!
>okok, we call it just clomate change goyim, now provide for those niggers!!!!
welp
>back to muh pensions again...

THAT chick needs an asian D.

>I've hears that one of the reasons that the EU is forcing the "cultural enrichment" is to support a dying pension system. Is there any truth in this,

Yes.

> and if so then how does that work when almost every refugee is a net negative on govt money thru welfare?
The people who are responsible for this are morons prone to wishful thinking. They think they can do better than others in the past. They'll end up turning all of western europe into the Balkans.

>The end game is not destroying whiteness
I agree. If whites would breed at 3-4 there would be no immigrants. The USA hit a low birthrate problem in the 60s and we all have adapted to the brownies everywhere sense then. Europe is having trouble because on or more of the following.
A) They just need time to adapt the the brownies and bombs
B) Their Socialist system is collapsing under the weight of the migrants.
C) In the 60s the truth could be hidden, cant today.
D) No freedom of speech will prevent natives from blowing off stream, leading to repressed rage (finsburry park).

Europe just wants to be successful like the USA is. Its too late though, the truth will always get out and people will become violent because they cant vent to friends family and neighbors. Europe will destroy itself in an effort to save its culture.

TL;DR: Europe wants to be like the USA but cant be cause they more socialist then the USA and the system cant support uncontrolled migration. No freedom of speech will prevent people from venting off anger with words.

>model t-fords will obsolete assembly line workers entirely! machines put the cars together, they'll only need a handful of technicians!!!!
you've got a really bad case of it

I'm in my 30s and I remember when they were talking about population control in Africa and the 3rd world. But now they have total control of all our main institutions so now they do not give a shit - they are just bringing them here by the millions and silencing dissent so they can do exactly what they always wanted - to destroy the west.

I will be honest - the left scare the shit out of me. it is going to get way way worse.

This
Every other year it changes
Funnel the shekels into the NGOs so they can manage the problem, Instead they bombard our population with propaganda to softer the well intentioned christian.
Then every now and then another crisis, another war, another famine and people are already predisposed to accept whatever new bullshit they sell.

Same with the holohoax about every 5-7 years a mayor holywood movie appears.

That's an excuse we were given, but logically it doesn't make sense. With young euro's it's fine, but unfortunately certain groups, somalis etc cost us far more than they'll ever produce.

Corporations love static wages but grandma wont benifit, they'll make her sell your inheritance to pay for her care and house nogs.

Personally I think nato wants us riled up for a war in the middle east. After Iraq and 911 going to war is a hard sell

>The end game is not destroying whiteness
>I agree. If whites would breed at 3-4 there would be no immigrant
Absolute bullshit. Higher birthrate can be implemented through policy changes and tinkering cultural institutions. They do not care because they want us whites gone.

>Is there any truth to this
>Stupid meme flag
Go read a fucking book and practice critical thinking instead of getting spoonfed meme lines by pol

>it is going to get way way worse.
You notice when the USA wants more immigration they destabilize a nation to get its people. Mexico in the early 1900s and Venezuela today. When EU wants more people they destabilize (or get Obama to do it) the mid east. The main difference is that Latin Americans and Mexicans are catholic usually and share values with us (except work ethics).

Italianon, the main reason is (((debt-servicing))).
since we are already indebted over our possibilities, we need to import debt-free shitskins to take new loans on cars, housing, and student debt.

Debt Service
The amount of money required to make payments on the principal and interest on outstanding loans, the interest on bonds, or the principal of maturing bonds. An individual or company unable to make such payments is said to be "unable to service one's debt."

>Overprodiction
Who said anything about overproduction? What i said is cost reduction. Companies can make more of the same item but with less unitary cost. That's also part of developing of the companies. Companies grow so much they need more population to sustain the game since companies want profit. You don't even know what capitalism is about.

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>through policy changes
Yes keeping women having children somehow instead of working would totally fly. Im all for keeping women pregnant and not working but women are cunts.

You are so fucking dumb it does not even deserve my reply.

Welfare leeches are "beneficial" because they take the money out of the state and give them to banks (through loans) and to bussinesses.

>Overprodiction
Who said anything about overproduction?

>The machines produce so much the product can't be stocked or it would take much money

Cant even read your own post, yet educate people about the big bad capitalism.

>depress the cost of labor
>expand the reach of gov't
>establish a left-wing voting bloc.

Don't know about the pension system. If they're on welfare, they're not paying in to it.

The end game of capitalism is to make the base of the piramid as wide as possible
People at the bottom pay 20-30% tax goes to maintain poor retaired unenployed and migrants, the bottom of the piramd save almost nothing, living paycheck to paycheck
The witer the base the taller the piramid

It's a consequence of finance-dominated capitalism.

Most Western economies, in some way or another, run on debt. Whether it's debt to fuel the consumption required to prop up a flagging manufacturing sector, like Germany/US, or a services sector, usually financial/educational, debt has been the key driver of growth in the First World for about thirty years.

Most Western populations became saturated in household debt in the late 1980s, during the deregulation of the credit market. The groundwork for mass immigration from a cultural/propagandist point of view was laid in the early 1990s, then it was after 1997 that the UK started getting annual immigration figures of over 100,000. It had never exceeded 50k before Blair's government, and most of it was non-white, despite people shitting themselves over EU immigration.

Similar in Germany, which started taking in refugees, and then regular immigrants en masse after the Yugoslav Wars proved to be a propaganda coup for the government in 1993.

Immigration to the US also really ramped up after 1992. The number of people coming into the States reached heights which had only been seen during the previous European immigration waves during the 1910s and 1920s.

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Why are immigrants a good thing for a debt-based economy? Because immigrants take out mortgages, car loans, credit cards, and funnel government funds into either paying for that debt, or buying useless shit that they don't need ie Nike trainers and smartphones. Down the line, their kids will take out loans to pay for a university education, plus more mortgages, car loans, credit cards. At the same time, a greater population increases demand for housing, electricity, water, gas, and all kinds of basic necessities. More for large multinationals to sell, hence why they are almost universally in favour of Third World populations moving to the West, where a higher rate of consumption will be happily funded by a guilt-ridden white government.

This is not to say that open borders politicians and activists are thinking of the bottom line when shilling for immigrants. They also do so out of white guilt, social pressure, because it makes them feel good, etc. However, I think there's an underlying belief/assumption at the very highest levels of international government and finance that, if the flow of new human flesh into the West were to dry up, our financial system would come crashing down on its head.

I'm sure I also don't need to point out the common link that could connect the world's banking/business elite to academics and politicians that are pro the darkening of Europe, spreading their anti-nationalist, anti-natalist, race mixing propaganda among target populations whilst simultaneously encouraging Third World immigration.

The bottom line is, it's not as simple as "traitor politicians", or "white genocide", although both are undoubtedly very important to understanding the psychology and cultural factors that caused mass acceptance of open borders in the West in the first place. It's a consequence of a globalist, finance-oriented capitalist system that is incompatible with the notion of economic, national, or spiritual borders.

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This guy got my post. We were fucked by our birthrates. We either take migrants to mantain this current system or destroy ourselves economically. I hate how you are a communist if you dare criticize capitalism in a any way.

Damn I wish I can fuck Jennifer Lawrence

Sure, that's the left wing argument. Thing is though, isn't it coherent with the "other side"?

To a person who is actually politically minded and not just one of the many stripes of us-vs-them zombies, the problems and solutions, the grievances are essentially the same. It doesn't matter whether you call (((them))) globalists, capitalism, elites, if you think it's jews or whatever, it is crystal clear to any slightly sane angry young man anywhere on the planet, with any set of allegiances, that a cozy cabal of corrupt, connected characters controls the top level of a socioeconomic bronze age palace class; and that only through violent means could they possibly be dislodged from power.

Anytime you see the crap that floods this board, really the majority of the content here seems to be generated by people who hate the people who are supposed to be on /pol, you see this mechanism in action. It is all hateful us-vs-them, all absolutely obsessed with pitting one group against another. It is no different than how my little sister would try and goad her way into some situation where she believed our single mother would punish me for some crime against her. The irony is, that victim mentality-emotional violence and inciting behavior is probably responsible for a tremendous share of the actual violence people perpetrate in this world.

The thing that makes western society incompatible with the multicultural ideology it wishes to pretend it has is the root of its economic model in pushing individual selfishness. It is designed to erode all collective behavior by communities because that behavior is a threat to the unified hierarchy of wealth. There is no black community in america, no communities of any kind except for class identities based on wealth. The goal, really, if there is one, is to exploit the desire of those who have means to escape from the desperation of those who do not, and to exploit those who don't by pitting them against each other.

Not that you would understand anything anyway.

By the time the children of refugees join the workforce, a ton of shitty jobs will already be automated.

I don't believe that they wouldn't take this into account, even if there's no solid timeline for this progression. So there must be another reason they're doing this. ;)

If maschines really make the workforce obsolete, why would capitalists need costumers paying with paper money for their products doing nothing productive? They could just produce for each other.

Preach

How will the muslims pay for White people pensions when they themselves are net tax-receivers?

Did it take you this long that there is no actual legit reason why refugees should be accepted? It's all bullshit, every single reason is wrong. If they will ever admit it to this, it will be too late, and it'll be something like "oopsie daisy, we made a mistake, but now we need to fix it, vote for me, teehee".

Because of the population growth and the way companies develop. They can make more profits that way. They don't need to raise the prices to make profit, reducing the costs of production also work. This is something i could explain better if i had my graphs at my pc.
The migrants use that money buying products. That way the money keeps flowing.

(((They))) believe that second/third gen rapefugees will become productive members of society. However, this will not happen. Societal integration only happens when the immigrant is forced to learn the language and adopt the general societal norms. In the case of Europestan, the nogs are allowed to live in their own enclaves with their own language, on culture and own Sharia courts. They will simply go on the dole and drag down the EU.

Also, read up on Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi - the ideological founder of the EU. He was a Jew happa who saw the need to remove ethnic and cultural identity from native Europeans. Oh, what is going on now is all part of the (((plan))).

Maybe so they can take more debt. Banks could be projecting that they'll not be able to pay back debt and fuck their credit rating. The immigration makes the formula work?

it did though
they only need a fraction of the workers per car produced than they did before
it doesn't seem as bad purely because production was upscaled so much

THE KIKES WANT TO DESTROY THE WHITE RACE!
THE KIKES WANT TO DESTROY THE WHITE RACE!
THE KIKES WANT TO DESTROY THE WHITE RACE!

>blaming women
go home /r9k/
whites do not have children because it's prohibitately expensive to do so, intentionally so
it now costs absolute fucktons to have but on child, so most decide to abstain until they save up money, and either go sterile or have retard babies
that's why autism rates have skyrocketed, because their parents had them at fucking 30

The "third gen migrant doctors" is not even necesary. It's just a way to push their propaganda. Of course, liberals believe it like this
>If we save all the Afrikangs kids and bring them here one of they can be the new (((Albert Einstein))) with 6000000 IQ and guide us through space and shiet!
I've met liberals who though this way

>the children of refugees join the workforce
It isnt about their children, it´s about them. Also they dont even really need to work en masse, they just need to consume. Thus getting more money flowing.

If you havent realized it yet, our whole monetary system is a scam if you look at the national/international finance system.

That's because of women though. Women entering the job market doubles the work force, lowering wages. It's nothing /r9k/ related.

And what if they dont give a single fuck and all that matters to them is that they get their cash?

>but women are cunts
while suffrage and right to work fucked shit up, that post was very clearly just whining about women in general, and not the underlying reason

Go ahead and bury your head in the sand coward, meanwhile you country and people will be destroyed by kikes and their mudslime slaves.

So the plan is to borrow money, give it to people to spend on mostly consumables, and somehow the economy will thrive and grow. Right on.

They wanted more moonies so they raised the prices till a maximal income was reached.
I.e. so much that it doesnt make the general population too unhappy, they still can buy toys for themselve.

The consequences were that people had less children, which ((they)) didnt care about at the time. Thinking too small.

Now they need to change their ways because the populations retirement becames unsustainable but without reducing prices.
For one because they dont want to cut their profits and for another they dont want to make it obvious.
So they import new consumers who can shit now even more consumers and thus stabilize the system for another short few years.

It´s the last try to scoop off as much money as possible before everything goes down.

In the meantime, more conservative parties will gain power and can be blamed when SHTF for destroying our "perfect" economy.
Thus they can start directly were they left 10~years after SHTF and begin the cycle anew.

>Go ahead and bury your head in the sand coward, meanwhile you country and people will be destroyed by kikes and their mudslime slaves.

Yes, that´s true. But you still dont understand their motivations. The WHY is even more important then the realization that they actually do it. Otherwise they can start it all over afterwards.

The pension plans are a meme. When they becone unsustainable the oligarchs will simply refuse to pay them out or hyperinflate them away.

The plan has always been to ethnically cleanse white countries and replace their peoples with apes too stupid to rebel.

The why is clear, they have laid it out many times.

((Their)) end game is to rule over a mixed race mud people with no culture and history. ((They)) want their to be only 2 races, Kikes, and the slave race of mud people.

What you gonna do?

Pension collapse will bring down the world economy, will make 2008 look like a cake walk.

The migrants are being brought in to replace the labor force, going to be the new sheep

>the oligarchs will simply refuse to pay them out or hyperinflate them away

Surefire way to create a civil war or at the very very least people refuse to work/pay taxes.

Apart from a few cringy fringe elements, why should they want that? Out of malice? Jealousy? It´s fucking stupid, they already got a perfectly working slaverace in the western countries were everbody is constantly online, looking at his smartphone and similiar shit.

It´s the most obvious honeypot, created to shut up all people that could get really on their trails and shift them into tinfoilhat territory.
Only thing that makes sense.

>to replace the labor force
Again. They dont need to actually work. For that we still have more then enough natives.
They shall just consume and get the money laundering to overdrive.

On top of that, you have tons of NGOs and the churches pushing for continued opens borders because it makes them tons of money.

>house a couple hundred illegals in a building that should house maybe half of them at most
>provide zero services apart from some shitty food twice a day
>bill the state as if you were housing them in a 5* hotel

It's not what I will do kike, it's how the cycle of history works. Eventually the kike party will end and the mass genocide and expulsions will began. Unfortunately kikes are like cockroaches and some always survive to spread the kike parasite once again.

>Pension collapse
Yes, but when? I am waiting with baited breath for the US to look like 90's Argentina.

It is just a claim by the EU - it won't work. Their justification is that if there are more working people supporting the older generations' retirement needs, then the EU will not have to go back on their promises to the older generation about their retirement benefits. Basically when a politician wants to get elected s/he will promise more retirement benefits in order to get elected. These promises keep building over time as politicians can't figure out another strategy other than gimmiedats, so the amount of income taken from the working population to the retired population gets to a ridiculous level.

Here is where the migrants come in: politicians will use the immigrants as an excuse. Externally, they will say something like this to the public: "oh! these are the 'workers' that will help us pay for the retirement benefits we promised - support us bringing them in!" However, it is only just a lie and they want to bring them in for other reasons you've seen.

TL;DR the pension excuse is just that: an excuse to make a financial claim that mass immigration is good

Can nazi rats even type?

tfw voting was a mistake

Well, as Illinois falls into shit, and a few cities in Texas (including dallas) are already pension fucked, it will start a domino effect.

I think mid-2018 will be the great reckoning