Hey Sup Forums just administering your daily dose of anti-confirmation bias
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remember to check those sources and take things your favorite blackpidegonspeaks/stephanmolyneux/sargon/nakedape/krautandtea says with a massive grain of salt
have a good day!
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getting political information from fucking e-celebs is the equivalent of getting political information from comedians
I like seeing e-celebs of all views get btfo desu senpai.
This. Youtube 1488larpers are the John Oliver of the right.
you'd be very fucking surprised how much of this point looks to figures like sargon and stephan molyneux as objective infallible harbingers of truth and red pills
how much of this board* looks to figures
No, but you can listen to what they say and make your own judgement
Abusing statistics? let's see if he brings up p-hacking.
mostly "data cropping" which means taking a portion of data which gives a different impression from the final cumulative data
Fpbp
really, take a look at this image and try to weasel yourself out of it. Official statistic too. Give me one good reason why I should go through some nobody cucks video and waste half an hour of my time.
I think you'd be more surprised at the large amount of people who don't.
Because I don't know what your crazy hinga dinga durgen language says at the top of that chart and you could probably learn a thing or two from the video
"welfare recipients by nation"
kys, shill.
I don't see a source or data collector on that chart so it would be impossible for me to analyze it, let alone take a random claim seriously
but let's say that is all true, okay, the counter argument, which is frankly supported in part by the video if you'd bother watching it, is that many of these collectors stop considering people immigrants after they have been in a place for long enough and actually start contributing. Of course fresh off the boat people from shit places are going to need a bit of help getting off their feet, seems unfair to stop tracking them once they do
and why not try to get some studies on the overall skill level of these immigrants, or how many of them are projected to hold a job.
Do you really think we even respect black pigeon speaks here on the boards? Its all e-celeb trash, though molly is probably one of the best of them who is closer to our spirit.
>muh basic fallacy thing that I just barely learned about
you have no idea even how long we have been in this game and how far we have gotten. Its childs play what you do, op.
>kekistani
your very existence is in a state of perpetual cringe. I bet you were posting "daddy trump is going to make anime real!" during the election
fuck off degenerate r/donald poster
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its dutch, but the chart links to out official government census bureau. Many other nations have similar statistics really.
You arent worth shit faggot.
If you explain who they are, i only watch ave and hickock 45 on jewtube.
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(big immigrant cities)
why not add some additional statistics around these cities
gee I wonder what these nationalities are doing in these cities
Should I go on and try to paste some of the data of other governments? Of official projections of which nationalities can have which kind of jobs? Many of these pieces still. All far away from biased lefty media and politically correct speech.
once again, what does welfare of people considered immigrants have to do with the topic of the thread? I've already told you countless polls stop considering immigrants "immigrants" once they get a foothold and contribute to the economy
rational left-leaning youtube who frequently exposes right leaning youtubers who don't read or misrepresent their sources.
6 minutes in. Lets examine the press release issued alongside the first study. Pay attention to the words used. there is little evidence that immigration SIGNIFICANTLY affects the OVERALL employment levels of native born workers. So we can deduce from this that immigration does affect the employment levels of native born workers but not to a 'significant' level. How are they defining significant?
For the next claim, notice language used. There is SOME evidence that recent migrants reduce the employment rate of prior immigrants.
For the next claim, recent research finds that immigration reduces the number of hours worked by teens. For the next claim again pay attention to the wording. SOME evidence on the inflow of skilled immigrants SUGGESTS that there MAY BE positive wage effects for SOME subgroups of native born workers, and other benefits to the economy MORE BROADLY.
Now on to the positive spin. Immigration has an overall positive impact on the long run economic growth in the U.S.
Then we move on to this doozy
First generation immigrants are more costly to governments, mainly at the state and local levels, than are native-born, in large part due to the costs of educating their children. However, as adults, the children of immigrants are
amonst the strongest economic contributors in the U.S population
Notice how they are trumpeting the benefits provided to the economy by second generation immigrants yet earlier on they mentioned how immigration impacts the employment rate of second generation immigrants (who would be natives), costs the government more, and reduces the number of hours worked by teens.
What do they mean by this?
nigga put it on hooktube. your days of free clicks are over
race, IQ, the basics really
all these fucks basically have to be killed and you are a dumb cuck who is books worth of material behind of us and who has a worthless sense of ego like an inflated ant.
sage
that skull faggot. just no.
i really dislike the fatalistic pigeon weaboo, but this shaun is even less credible.
he failed miserably when he tried to "fact check" the german xy einzelfall map.
I know what it is i was curious to see if he is going to delve into the actual studies and was going to go through the entire video and the sources but after he chose to go straight to the press release i thought i would shit on that and give it a miss.
What would happen if the automation problem came in? With that many people a country couldn't provide jobs to everybody.
What would do a small country like mine. Our economics is not the best.
press release that cites the actual actual study. The studies show that immigration is actually a net gain, the issue is that news outlets twist them with data cropping. Just watch the video, the sources are also in the description.
>1 minute in
>strawman about immigration
Welp not off to a really good start.
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This guy is autistic as fuck
I don't take advice from betas
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Broaden your horizons, you might realize you were wrong about something and avoid potentially looking like a drooling retard
>press release that cites the actual actual study.
What the press release does is tell you someones opinion of it and it is contradictory. The only conclusion you can draw from the press release is that immigration is benficial to the economy, that just means the government has more money through taxes. It doesn't mean it is benefifical to you. In fact the press release even states that immigration is detrimental to some degree for the children of immigrants.
Shaun and jen are consistently dishonest or just embarrassingly incorrect about things though.
You obviously shouldn't take everything the "skeptic" people say as truth but find somewhere better than this spineless idiot to fact check.
This guy is a drooling retard
He's a virgin 100%
>muh hugbox
kys yourself 2x
can something be beneficial to the economy and not beneficial to the individual?
what has he been dishonest or incorrect about?
I by no means think he's infallible, however I'm genuinely curious, what has he fucked up on?
I agree, the guy I was replying to is totally a drooling virgin retard. Can't be bothered to watch a video that threatens his distorted breitbart fueled view of the world and politics.
>Abusing Statistics
pfffhahaha what the fuck does this even mean
At the end of the day the only reason anyone would ever get so butthurt about PJW style punditry is if they're opposed to the stances themselves. I.e. you're an open borders RAPE MY WIFE PLEASE faggot
Terrible channel.
>HURR WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN IM GOING TO MAKE RETARDED ASSUMPTIONS WITHOUT WATCHING THE VIDEO
Data cropping, only looking at select portions of data that give a different impression from the final picture. It's like thinking you can disprove all of climate change by saying LOOK THE TEMPERATURE WENT DOWN 2 DEGREES FROM 2003-2006, ITS OVER, CLIMATE CHANGE IS FAKE
If someone took er jerbs and you end up on welfare do you benefit from it? You can laugh and call it a meme but the press release states that immigration affects the employment levels.
>the press release states that immigration affects the employment levels
which is largely incorrect
in reality there is usually just a short term effect on hours worked for the native population.
long term, with more people means more business which means more jobs
>I've already told you countless polls stop considering immigrants "immigrants" once they get a foothold and contribute to the economy
That is a complete lie. However the question you're asking is very legitimate. This particular poll does it by nationality, so it's possible that people who can get Dutch citizenship (which usually are the people who can get jobs) are listed as "Dutch" and not "Somali".
I'm watching the video, he just ad homs the sources hahaha
Oh golly jee a group concerned about immigration collected this data. Probably biased and racist. Let's take a look at data collected by a group supporting immigration haha
Not to mention the comments
"Wow jeez I can't believe right wingers think we want immigrants as slaves, I just believe in free movement"
Like free movement wow. The very base of your ideals is completely pants on head retarded, why should I care what you have to say about anything?
Not to mention all this MUH ECONOMY IMMIGRATION IS GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY yeah so was slavery, what's your point bud?
I think a lot of you faggots take this incredibly hard line GDP IS GOD stance because you're actually commie socialist retards trying to point out flaws in capitalism to capitalists. Like well gee if you care about the economy so much surely you support floods of inbreds swarming your border
>sure you get fucked in the ass until you die but it'll pay off later in wonderful diversity and marginal economic growth!
>long term, with more people means more business which means more jobs
It also means more competition for jobs. Immigration and job creation isn't a 1:1 ratio. You people hurt my brain.
>Competing with pajeets lowers standards of living while production is increased.
I think this Is this the result of continuously outsourcing labor to third world countries. Eventually they caught up. And now, the West needs to quickly reduce it's standards of living to compete. The immigrant hordes that we see are but the market trying to correct itself.
>some jewish guy said something that wasn't 100% factually correct
>that's why mass immigration into only white countries isn't genocide
Get real nigger, what bunch of dumb cunts commenting
i don't know what's more retarded...the video or the people in the comments taking this at face value
>what has he been dishonest or incorrect about?
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I stopped watching the reaction videos the "skeptics" put up but they usually will do one after S&J make a video about them.
Here are some that TLDR did
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I don't think I've watched either of these but I did listen to someone's video (Can't remember who) where S&J tried to make a german government crime report map or something seem incorrect. S&J's entire argument hinged on redefining what arson was considered and then saying the map must not be accurate because it's only arson if X.
These, the video itself was flimsy bullshit and OP is a massive fucking faggot. You sure you weren't looking for the_donald, ""user""? Because no one here gives a shit about e celebs and you've pruned a perfectly good thread off of the catalog to throw a temper tantrum.
>sargon
>and especially fucking kraut and tea
>our guys
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>tfw when you are an ugly beta orbiter who not only fucked a dindu and continues to betrays his race, but are literally a kidnapper who takes his e-celeb fangirl hostage
Yeah, I guess that's another thing, not a whole lot of people on Sup Forums really like any of the skeptic dweebos. OP obviously hasn't been here very long.
Most people here formed their ideological core way before they found their way here.
Their opinions are formed primarily by real life experiences.
Also dont forget to SAGE
I mean, in all fairness cropping data to make immigrants look only like retarded lazy drains on an economy is dishonest and clearly anti immigrant. Someone more left leaning that I would use the word racist but it isn't that far fetched.
You're not getting fucked in the ass, fresh off the boat immigrants are usually taking low end jobs the native population doesn't have much interest in to begin with. For example in America they offered normal wages to white people to come work the fields to farm produce and no one showed up. White people don't want to clean your toilet and pick lettuce.
Why do these people never try to debunk Jared Taylor or Matt Heimbach or anyone like that?
i agree that shaun goof'd here but honestly I can't find myself getting too riled up over the agenda of some menopausal bitch writing some book about how she wants time off by faking being pregnant.
>we know it's your video, you're trying to shill
>you have no idea where you are
>you are a run of the mill lefty faggot with "arguments" a hundred times repeated and a hundred times debunked
>not worth my time
have a nice day
>fresh off the boat immigrants are usually taking low end jobs the native population doesn't have much interest in to begin with.
I would like to see a official statistic for that. Until then i call bullshit.
You havent taken babby first redpill?
But? Who the fuck are the jewtubers you are talking about?
My opinions come from experience not because a pair of tits said it.
nice digits
However this chart neglects a history of abuse of the people in question. If white people were enslaved and brought to a place with completely different culture and society and kept uneducated for 260 years, they'd probably be criminals too
they are here already, your options are to be bitter and cry for unrealistic "solutions" like genocide or deportation
or attempt to educate them, police their communities more, and turn them into contributing citizens.
LOL have her debate molyneux, you faggot retard shit-for-brains nigger
>You're not getting fucked in the ass, fresh off the boat immigrants are usually taking low end jobs the native population doesn't have much interest in to begin with.
>There is some evidence that recent migrants reduce the employment rate of prior immigrants.
Immigration fucks over immigrants too.
>anti-anti-SJW YouTube faggot
Pure cancer
It's reactionary libshits that are contrarian on YouTube since they lost the culture war online
>Libshit tries to debunk PJW, entire cideo que is shitting on Sargon, pjw , pps, etc etc
Definition of controlled opposition in it's literal sense
>Muzzies dindu Nuffin, bigot
How stupid can you be to parrot MSM bullshit on YouTube and present yourself as an intellectual
Sage and kys OP for advertising your shitty dhannel no one watches
do you really fucking think low skilled immigrants are getting off the boat and being chemical engineers?
Ive went through this thread and even though I havent watched your video, I have deduced from your posts that this video and your arguments boil down to disputing the effect on "muh economy". If that is the case then you just go and fuck yourself right now. I dont give a fuck about "the economy" or how much money the faggot politicians have to waste, I care about not living amongst a 90% non white population. Do you understand this you fucking degenerate? I care about men still being men and women still being women, and not having both sexes utterly fail at their natural roles in society while a sizeable percentage of both men and women descend ever deeper into sexual and psychological degeneracy. I care about prepubescent kids not turning into fucking trannies. I care about Islam not taking root and then conquering the west as it has always wanted to do. I care about whites not going extinct. I care about these things and more, not by how many percentage points some arbitrary aspect of the "economy" went up and how many more tax dollars can be thrown into another asinine "program".
So asians were never abused by white people?
Never ever? Not even while building, say, a railroad? Blacks act the same way in their own countries as they act in ours.
lol, context?
your post literally doesn't make any sense at all. they aren't alike at all. one is a highly-paid corporate mouthpiece, the other are multiple, decentralized random people exercising free speech that you don't like. there's no relation at all. the two are completely irrelevant.
nice try with this whole "brigading" thing, though. looks like you're new. stay for a while, you might learn something about race, crime rates, intelligence, history, etc
then why the fuck haven't you moved to iceland idiot? Whites are literally 60% and falling everyday in America, you'd think people like you would have taken flight by now
you know user, there are people on this planet that dont instantly bail when things are starting to get hard
I see this argument a lot. The difference is that Asians come from a culture that was more compatible with our society and weren't forced here and literally kept uneducated and enslaved for 260 years. C'mon man you know this shit
I don't think most of these people willingly misuse statistics, Kraut & Tea and BPS are fairly smart guys but they just repeat material they find online without seeing if it's from a bias source if it fits their agenda and Sargon and Naked Ape especially are not that smart so just repeat things other Youtubers have already posted without even reading the source material, e.g. Sargon going on about Hitler escaping to Argentina just because he saw another Youtuber talking about it.
Stefan Molymeme definitely does it on purpose though since he literally bans people from his forum who point out if he's repeating something false since he literally runs a cult for money and is fine flip flopping any which way will get him the most donations.
IDK who Matt Heimbach is but what I'll say against Jared Taylor is all the studies he cites into differences in racial IQ don't prove it's genetic, that's just his camp's assumption to the cause. However in his defense there aren't any better or counter-studies to cite since there's not enough people with the balls to study why niggers be dumb.
I don't want anymore non European immigrants in this country. I don't give a shit about easily manipulated statistics, I've seen the damage it's doing to our countries. Enough is enough. I couldn't care less about YouTube bullshit. This is about preserving our way of life, history and heritage.
>there are people on this planet that dont instantly bail when things are starting to get hard
I know right so why don't immigrants stay in their own countries?
I mean, it's also because their average IQs are about 35 points higher.
Come on man, you know this shit.
Do you know what white flight is? White people literally have a history of bailing when niggers invade their communities.
Also if you don't think civic nationalism can work and you are white in America, there is no "saving the country" for you. There will be no policy to limit black births or control the population, there will be no genocide or mass deportation. Seriously these types would just be happiest learning icelanic and moving to iceland which is 99.8% white.
Sometimes, just sometimes, I still get a smile from this place. Thanks, user-kun.
I will not run you fucking subhuman. I am waiting for collapse. I will fight if its the last thing I ever do. Also I am not a fucking Icelander, and will not invade Iceland when I have just argued against my own country being invaded. Icelanders dont need me or want me. Unlike you I have respect for other nations not wanting to take in immigrants of any kind. There is nothing wrong with it. I have no desire to assimilate into Icelandic culture. And you must sooner later pick a hill to die on, so to speak. Simpleminded retard.
Yes, I agree, Whites were fucking retarded idiots to ship over a bunch of low IQ people and then give them the vote.
this
fucking sick of the neolib strategy
>lets narrow down the discussion to this field i´m comfortable with and lets just ignore all other issues that are related/tied to this because i´m just dishonest that way
How many white children do you have?
give the kikes time and they'll ruin that one too.
They weren't considered people. None of our founding fathers ever would've imagined that blacks would become full members of our society. Hell, Abraham Lincoln himself wanted to ship them to Central America.
i wouldn´t have a problem with (actual) refugees seeking shelter in germany...
...to regroup, gather strength and go back to their country of origin to take it back like the french and poles did in wwII
>retard/low t/turkmiaturd/faggot/literally who
Are we done, here Sweety?
0, because I have no hope for america, I know its lost. That isnt going to stop me from fighting when the time comes. The stats are obvious. Whites are not making a resurgence here. The only solution is primarily white states seceding, but that too is unlikely to happen. Only possibility for us now is to fight when the time comes, when the non whites turn against us en masse like it happened in south africa.
Not him, but I have 4 and feel the same way. the minute the feds and police stop getting their direct deposits I am going to extinct you and your Jewish masters.
So is Sargon literally a Cuck? why am I not surprised?
Exactly, they try so hard to steer the narrative when it's already obvious what is happening. It's like arguing over which candle started the fire when you're stuck in a burning building. It's pointless. We need to start fixing the problem, not wasting time with these empty pursuits.