Employers can't figure out why Millenials job hop

>Millennials have a reputation for job-hopping. Unattached to organizations and institutions, people from this generation -- born between 1980 and 1996 -- are said to move freely from company to company, more so than any other generation.

>The data support this. A recent Gallup report on the millennial generation reveals that 21% of millennials say they've changed jobs within the past year, which is more than three times the number of non-millennials who report the same. Gallup estimates that millennial turnover costs the U.S. economy $30.5 billion annually.

>Why are millennials so likely to move around? There are many potential reasons, but one could be their low engagement in the workplace. Gallup has found that only 29% of millennials are engaged at work, meaning only about three in 10 are emotionally and behaviorally connected to their job and company. Another 16% of millennials are actively disengaged, meaning they are more or less out to do damage to their company. The majority of millennials (55%) are not engaged, leading all other generations in this category of worker engagement.

>Not engaging millennial workers is a big miss for organizations. The millennial workforce is predominantly "checked out" -- not putting energy or passion into their jobs. They are indifferent about work and show up just to put in their hours.

>gallup.com/businessjournal/191459/millennials-job-hopping-generation.aspx

Why don't millenials want to work?

>do what they get paid to do
>why don't they do additional work for free???
fucking boomers, die already

let's see. I don't need to spend money to feel good. also I will not fund third world niggers to replace german population. Let normies work, I've been living the life of a 16yo on summer break for the past 8 years now.

Millennials figured out that there is no point in working. Pro-asset price inflation policies of the past several decades now make it mathematically impossible to gain ground or even tread water.

Only true hope is for an economic reset that deflates assets and brings a new equilibrium to form a stable basis for the new generations to grow.

>55% not engaged

Wait until they find out that we aren't coming back to change their adult diapers or finance their retirements either.

We have this fucking thread everyday. It's simple.

>I want my job to be about myself
>This job isn't about myself
>I'm leaving

>Joel ((((Stein)))

like clockwork

Hmm, I wonder why people don't care enough about making other people rich at a company they have no stake it...

Caring about my job is above my pay grade.

I've job hopped since I was 18. In the past 5 years I've had 9 jobs. Got laid off once and fired in another because I was having bad reactions to the chemical that I used (pest control.) Every other one I've quit due to low pay or low/no hours. The longest I've worked in a company is 1 year and I quit because I was promoted to a position that gave worthwhile experience (ICP machine for analysis) but I was treated like shit, given no help, and 2nd shift (I was on 3rd) cut corners and I suffered due to it so I left. Doesn't help that my shift supervisor was transferred and the new one I got was bad. 2nd is half a year as a security guard and I left because of management, again. Got a job recently as a CNC operator that'll do some welding so I'm looking forward to that.

The problem is that a lot of people are doing jobs they dislike and the supervisors/managers aren't doing their jobs to engage and retain their employees and instead treat them like shit. It's easier to job hop and hope for a better staff than it is to get a new supervisor or replace management.

>Being engaged with your job
Try being engaged when management are fucking retards and you can see the train wreck they're causing a mile away. There's a major problem in quality of supervisors, managers, and corporate. It's not a surprise that this is never reported on and instead it devolves to "It's the employees fault for not dealing with bullshit.

Its the catch 22 of employers needing everyone to have "5 years experience" for their first job.


I've read an article recently about the skills shortage in the workforce and the cultural shift from training employees to expecting to hire people will a full skill set.

Millennials are disengaged with their jobs because its becoming far more unusual for an employer to train an employee. Baby boomers started at the bottom and worked their way up, they got training on the job and had the support of their employer.These days employers expect you to have 100 of the skills needed to do a job before you apply. University has never given anyone a full skill set. There has always been a need for on the job training but employers have forgotten this.

I think the recession has played a role in this too. When a company is doing well its a logical choice to invest back into training a workforce, but if you have a struggling company it can seem better to get a quick fix for immediate results by employing someone who is overqualified for a position because you don't want to spare the time and energy on training.

Hard to be "engaged" when you are slaving for retard boomer managers & owners who fuck up left right & center and would sell you out for an extra dollar and not even feel remorse

I mean I'll do it for the bread but I don't know how I could possibly be expected to care

>be told you will jump through 5+ careers in your life and this is normal and fine so be prepared for it
>also told to stop being selfish and just stick to one dead end work station and put some effort into it you uppity serf

The printing press was a mistake

Cause I don't care about my job whatsoever. It's there to pay rent and pay for food, and occasionally some weed or smokes. I don't give a shit about my company, nor do they care about me. I will not go above and beyond for a company that doesn't give a shit about me, nor should the expect me to.

i can't even get hired for one job. fuck these people.

>force you to put in overtime completely unpaid
>expect you to have at least a decade of experience by the time you get out of college
>job training is non existent
>people are hired and fired constantly
>employers have zero loyalty to their employees

huh, really makes you think...

Care to link the article? This seems like the most logical explanation I have heard yet.

You're worse than a third world nigger.

>Another 16% of millennials are actively disengaged, meaning they are more or less out to do damage to their company

based

Really the whole thing is just insulting at this point. It's nothing but boomers and the angry Gen Xers trying to shift the blame for absolutely everything. You want a real reason why people job hop? Because companies made it clear a long time ago that they don't give a shit about retaining employees and think that 'Careers' are reserved for family members.

I once negotiated a shit ton of basic things with one of my first employers during my final interview that were all agreed upon - 2 weeks vacation, overtime, pay for any additional training that's needed and pay for recertification as necessary. They said that was fine, but couldn't meet my price point initially, flat out told me 'We can't do that now, but within a year we'll bump you up until you're at that point." Year goes by, I then bring it all up again, even go so far as to write out everything else I've done that's above and beyond the scope of my job, point out savings and growth in everything I had a hand in. They flat out told me "I see that and if I could I'd give you this amount that's over what we negotiated, but we just can't do that at this time. all I can do is 5% raise." I knew he was trying to get me to negotiate, but FFS, I already negotiated a year previously. I told him thanks and that I would use up the rest of my vacation time and then work for the next two weeks as a professional courtesy. I already knew that they were paying a family member far more than me for less work and I simply wasn't going to play that game.Call me stupid or whatever, but at some point you have to stand up for yourself and I don't take kindly to being jewed.

At least I had a nice title to put on my resume.

>Joel Stein
Good goys here belive it's the boomers/genX/millenials fault things are fucked up and dont realise ((they)) just distract you to hate other generations.

>WHY YOU NOT WORKING FOR ME GOY? DONT YOU REMEMBER 666 GORILLIONS?

Probably because my wage is capped, so I either need to curry favor among my bosses so the promote me over some fag who probably doesn't deserve it, or find another job where the income ceiling is higher.

Bearing in mind that I did spend almost a decade at one job who refused to not just increase my wage, but also refused to give me more hours so I could have more income. Now I'm at a job of 3+ years and it's more of the same.

Invest in small companies in the stock market whose stock are around a dollar or less. Live off yhe dividends when you're older, for now live off Govt gibs.

There's going to be a natural boomer genocide in less than 10 years, just remember that when you read what these people say about you my friends. When they are gone, we get to write the history books and we get to choose how they are remembered, this is why the slander us now hoping to get the jump on us.

FUCK BOOMERS

I don't know man. It was titled something like "The workplace skills deficit" but cant remember where I found it.

I'm a millennial with a white collar job and I plan on leaving after I hit the one year mark. This study means nothing because millennials are just starting their careers and are hopping jobs to get to the line of work they couldn't get straight out of college. And fug what employers think, I'm a mercenary. If I can make $20k more by switching over to a more exciting job you're Damn right I'm gonna do it. Luckily I think that most people in my industry are mature enough to understand that it's nothing personal, just business.

It's another millennials are useless entitled shits episode.

Companies aren't loyal to their employees.

Why would you expect the employees to be loyal to them?

My grandfather got a gold watch from his company after ten years of working there.

Where he worked you could easily expect to have the job for the rest of your life if you wanted it.

If you want loyalty from your employees be worth being loyal to.

>I don't give a shit about my company, nor do they care about me

This here. I've only ever worked for one company that did not treat me like a disposable robot, and I'm still working for them years later.

Employers these days don't want to have to deal with human beings at all, and it shows.

>Doing more than what you're paid to do

How cucked can you be?

>spare time and energy on training
They barely put any energy into training you at all, considering that they have idiots that do it for them.

Here is my experience my fellow Anons

33 year old IT guy here. I have done it all from Helpdesk to Systems Admin to Network Admin.

Why do I job hop as an older millennial? Simple... because the baby boomers will not fucking retire. They stay at their jobs until they are 70 like jaded fucking cops just maximizing their retirement portfolios and social security while making life miserable for everyone.

I didn't get the managerial position I was finally reaching for until I was 32 because the baby boomers never fucking leave/die.

Loyalty is for dogs

>I'm instantly replaceable, why does nobody respect me or give me a gold star for doing my job?
Face it most of you need employers more than the employers need your ass.

I was just promoted to management today. I'm looking for ways to keep morale up while getting the job done faster. What do you recommend?

That's not what that said at all faggot.

But being a souless german i wouldn't expect you to understand passion.

Fire everyone who isn't white and male.

Who cares if millennials job hop?

It's good for the capitalist economy.

It's bad for socialism.

Socialists are pissed off that freedom and liberty is still recognized in the U.S.

The socialists will learn when they dip to new lows hiring the worst of the worst people at minimum wage.

Shitty workers can destroy your business, all it takes is one unsanitary nigger to wipe the poop from his ass and not care to wash his hands while fixing up a meal for the customers.

All it takes is that one drug addicted illegal to run over a customer at a car wash.

Don't micromanage is all I can offer

I work with minorities so that's a no

>Enact right to work laws in most states.
>Employers get pissed when their employees leave without notice, as right to work laws permit.
>Employers think they are in the right when the fire people without warning after they worked for the company for years.
Loyalty to a business stopped being worth it about 20 years ago, there is no point in being loyal when businesses do not reciprocate it.

I worked at my last job for 5 years. Got promoted to supervisor even.
They kept fucking me over, so I left. Then they got all mad about it. Fuck them. You reap what you sow.

>Face it most of you need employers more than the employers need your ass.

Apparently not, judging by all the crying of these articles.

>>Not engaging millennial workers is a big miss for organizations. The millennial workforce is predominantly "checked out" -- not putting energy or passion into their jobs. They are indifferent about work and show up just to put in their hours.

Where do they get this stuff? Most people in my age cohort I know are very motivated people, they volunteer, etc. Of course there are stoner losers in every generation but millennials are pretty dedicated compared to those shiftless gen x'ers.

>Make it so the very concept of "working your way up" is a fantasy
>"WHY DOES NOBODY WANT TO WORK THIS DEAD END JOB FOREVER REEEEEEEE"

Don't be a fucking dick and reprimand the slackers. Few things are more demoralizing than busting your ass off and seeing your coworker doing jack shit. Also don't micromanage unless you absolutely fucking have to. Don't be passive aggressive and let people know when they're fucking up.

26 here, been with my company for 5 years. Not planning on leaving any time soon, I've built up 5 weeks of PTO and it'll max out at 6 weeks/year once I hit my 10 years. Shit is cozy.

you can't get a raise until you tell them you've found a new job in my experience, it's the only way they open the checkbook

Quit immediately.

Then why do you fucktards keep hiring them over me

Exactly true.

I'm in a very similar situation. My workplace is packed with people aged 60-70 who are so far out of touch with modern tech they contribute nothing and in fact slow us down because we have to keep trying to teach them the same thing over and over, and fix their mistakes. Yet they just hang on year after year -- earning close to $100K with six weeks vacation -- just fucking parasites. But because it's a union shop they can't be forced out. The company keeps offering them buyouts and they're very rarely taken because the seniors know they've got a sweet gig. Most of them are set for life --
it's not about the money. They're destroying the company and younger peoples' lives just so they can have somewhere to go every morning.

I hope to fuck I'm not like that in a few decades.

>1980-1996
>born in 1998
>been self-identifying as Millennial

Am I not?

This.

>t. pretentious faggot neet

>remove pension programs
>remove training, replace with sink or swim
>offer 3% COLA raises yearly
>if you're competent recruiters banging down your door offering 20%+ raises per job hop after a 2 year stint at a company

Wow, really hard to figure this one out. Turns out when you treat your employees as replaceable 'resources' your employees who aren't mongoloids will treat your company the same way you treat them. Economics in action. Fuck you, pay me.

The older generations had pension plans that incentivized an employee to stay with a company. Now most retirement plans are private except for government ones. It's easier to job hop and get 10% increase in pay instead of waiting for dumbass HR to (maybe) approve a raise for an existing employee.

At the same time, management really looks at employees as expendable and only focus on increasing the value of their stock holdings.
When my grandfather died the company executives flew in a private jet to his funeral. That would never happen now. Bosses barely know your name, so fuck em

They leave because they don't get a raise or they got fired.

When there's no path to moving up in a business so you can make a better life for yourself, there is no reason to become attached to an individual business.

Also:
>Not engaging millennial workers is a big miss for organizations. The millennial workforce is predominantly "checked out" -- not putting energy or passion into their jobs. They are indifferent about work and show up just to put in their hours.
What are they expecting? That these people would work the entirety of their work hours and then decide to do extra work for free? If businesses want you to work extra then they are supposed to pay overtime, as in the time that goes over the allotted time they were meant to be working which in turn is meant to be paid for. People don't do shit for free.

I run the line and make sure my workers are moving quickly. Some of the things I do is offer then water or help whenever they need it. Even though I'm management I was a line worker just yesterday

That is pretty below average desu. My wife gets 2 weeks paid vaca per year as a teller at a bank.

Pizza party every month.

here's why I want to job hop - because the quality of work environments is piss poor in large companies and engage in banal double speak in which they say how much they value your input and efforts but really they want you to shut the fuck up, follow orders and never say a word

Right now we're seeing a exodus of employees who have been with the company for 20+ years because they are sick of being micro managed to death which never used to be the case. Sure, this has opened a ton of opportunities but we're bleeding experience fast and no succession plans are in place.

It is the boomers fault for allying with the jews though. I suppose you could also make the case that is was the silent gen's fault for fighting Hitler.

It's an inconvenience and an expense finding someone new, yes but none of you do anything particularly crucial.

In about 10 years you'll all be automated out of a job anyway so I don't know why you're celebrating.

Nailed it. My dad walked into his boss's office, fresh out of college with a pregnant wife and basically zero experience with programming. The company took a risk on him, trained him, and within five years he worked his way up to head of network security in an era where most people were still wrapping their heads around computers.

Today that same company doesn't even offer employee training.

It's a range, but 2000 is the hard cutoff.

>get job
>expected to do 2 people's worth of work for one person's worth of salary
>bunch of older employees who are incompetent but stick around because everyone works until they're 70 and they're hogging up all the normally 20-something entry level positions
>get more responsibilities tacked onto job
>expected to take a pay cut despite working triple what was agreed upon when hired
>job hop
>rinse, repeat
>get called a lazy/unambitious/X millennial for not wanting to do what is basically space labor after taxes and insurance chews up each paycheck

if employers aren't loyal their employees, why should the reverse be true?

I do the work of 7 people.

You can't find anyone who has the efficiency I do.

Being an older millennial that manages younger millennials I will say that it is about 50/50. In my experience millenials are good about asking questions and I love that. Our clients are mainly baby boomers and they are always very intimidated by technology and will break shit before asking us to put out the fire.

I have positive and negative feelings about both generations. I don't particularly identify with either. I guess if I was pushed I would say I would prefer to work with an intelligent boomer if not only because of the innate shortcomings of youth (those under 25 approximately) but that has nothing to do with generational deficiencies.

i blame social media. It's responsible for normies.

The money is shit.
Adjusted for inflation in the 1950s the minimum wage was around $20 bucks an hour. In reality you got paid about a dollar but with a dollar?
One hour of work?
You could EASILY take a girl out for a really nice date. Dinner, movie, maybe something else.
Today? You have to work about 6-8 hours minimum wage to take a girl out on a date.
That's ludicrous.
Everything has gotten more expensive and the value of the dollar is such a piss poor thing that kids just don't get that motivated.
Money motivates in capitalism.
Thanks to boomers our economy is entirely wrecked. Thus? Millennials just aren't too keen on busting their ass for potato chips.

Same. Job market sucks ass right now.

>Why don't millenials want to work?

Entry level jobs just don't pay the bills, without a bachelors or a technical mastery. I job hopped up until I was 26, and had enough experience to get a job that paid $18, 4 years ago.

Yep, my immediate boss (VP level) is a Boomer in his 60's. I'm in a management position, and a Millennial, but there are several other managers on my level who are Gen X who can't move up unless some of the other Boomer VPs retire. We recently had some layoffs and restructuring, which helped the Gen X folks, so that's a bonus, I suppose.

>In about 10 years you'll all be automated out of a job anyway so I don't know why you're celebrating
Holy fuck he actually bought into the automation propaganda, kek

This. And there is no loyalty from employers anymore. Our parents and grandparents were able to take jobs woth little or no experience or eduaction and receive steady promotion amd pay increases and receive pensions.

Now employers want masters plus 5 years experience for entry level postitions where you work 50-60 hours a week for a salary. They offer shitty retirement plans and as soon as the company sells out or is aquired all the employees get shit canned and receive a pat on the back on their way out the door.

Boomers are not retiring to make room in upper level positions. They are a cancer and need to fucking die already.

I keep changing jobs because I want to be paid more. I don't even want alot, I have a good resume, a degree and 8 years of military background. I work 2 jobs, 7 days a week, roughly 55-60 hours a week and I don't make 30k after taxes, or even before for that matter. I don't really mind because I live in a great town and I'm happy but most jobs don't pay shit. My main jo I make 14 an hour, no benefits and my weekend job is minimum wage. I'm always looking for something better because I'm not asking for much. 30-33k and a 401k would be nice. I don't need benefits because I can go to the VA.

Boomers refuse to die/leave the workforce and business owners expect people to love within their measly existence while working at a level in which the owners profits expand, all the while the owner doesn't live within their means. I'm a capitalist but older people are greedy as fuck.

My generation isn't without its faults but I think the ones who are active in the workforce are extremely active and work hard and receive very little for it.

American BTW.

Good call on all those, just be straight up with those working under you, don't bullshit (or bully) them and don't promise them anything you know you can't fulfill, IE everything you should already know.

> Face it most of you need employers

If that was true, why is job hopping so easy?

There are no shortage of jobs.

I can work for overtime at 60 hours a week for 8 months then afford to work part time for 4 months as a big vacation.

Socialists are going crazy because they realize their liberal dream of authoritarian slavery is falling apart as it has no substrate to grow roots in such a system in America.

Not my fault lazy ignorant wannabe elitists need 100k job to buy an automatic transmission corvette in order to feel special.

I just buy a older WRX, do some mods and my street car still has a bigger dick... wut?

Do you work in a factory? Sounds like Chrysler in my town. I'm also part of a union and in the next 3 years there will be a large turnover. Our pension has something called a drop program where it freezes your pension and forces you to commit to retiring in 3 years. Every percent you accumulate until your retirement date is paid out in a lump sum. It makes it so the city can plan a little easier.

>2 weeks
vs
>5 weeks
What do you think the average vacation time is in the country?

>work at company
>another company will pay more or is closer to home
>person uses experience from your company to get that job which the employee sees as better
>complain that people don't have loyalty
What these companies won't admit is that they offer shit or a low minimum and expect people to slave away 30-40 years of their life for the companies financial gain.

FUCK YOU
If someone offers me a better deal than the scraps and bread crust you offer then I'm taking the deal that at least gives me a paper cup of water included

>Why don't millenials want to work?

They do want to work. What they don't want to do is implement solved problems. Busy work, the kind of shit that can be automated by machines, is toxic to millenaisl. They want to solve new, original challanges that haven't been done before instead of breaking themselves over stupid fucking assembly line work that machines should be doing.

kill yourself if you disagree

Mandatory crazy hat day everyday.

I too can make up shit on the internet.

>Propaganda
My little syrupnigger can't be this retarded!

> Don't micromanage

How about don't be a nigger and stop being a lazy shitty business relying on writing off losses so the government can give you welfare checks for being in the red every year.

;)

Oh, nvm I read that as you got 5 weeks over 5 years my bad.

Only way to grow your wage is to job hop. What's hard to understand.

I worked for a company for 3 years (loyalty since they gave me a job after 4 years of NEEThood), no promotions, no raises aside from inflation adjustment, more and more responsibilities, so i used all the shit i learned at work to get a junior management position at another company, after a year and a promotion i went back to that first company and got an extra 30 fucking grand a year doing LITERALLY the same job i was before with better hours, better benefits, better everything.

Laughed about it with my boss who was now my colleague how they could have saved themselves replacing me and spending 6 months looking for the position i just filled if they straight promoted me.

>white collar
>exciting

Explain what you do please. I have a white collar job right out of college as well and the most exciting part of the day is when I leave.

Maybe they would if they offered pensions

You don't have to work with them if you fire then

I warn the slackers. Where I work the other managers are to friendly to the line workers and let them slide with everything. On my first day I had to write up one of my workers for not meeting quota. Now people respect me even more but tell me I'm changing to quickly

>soulless corporate harpies and white collar nu male cucks dominate big companies
>they will suck your soul out and make you like them
>they will make you police your own words and your own thoughts
>they will pretend as though they have given you the greatest favor in the world by giving you employment
>they will hold the threat of unemployment over your head in subtle ways to make you always uneasy and nervous

Fuck it all I should've stayed a NEET. Also FUCK THE GOVERNMENT for taking 1/3 of my already shitty paycheck and giving it to worthless niggers and other minorities

There's no training because their wages are too high to stack on top of training. I wouldn't want to pay someone minimum 15 plus tax and benefits and then give them classes to boot. Lower or remove the minimum wage and suddenly non minimum wage jobs feel like they pay enough with related price drops, and employers can afford to train their employees.

The Creature from Jekyll Island

>I too can make up shit on the internet.

When I worked in Medicaid for Hewlett Packard (Why is this allowed anyway?) I was entering and adjudicating ~250 cases a day.

I was doing the work of 4 departments by myself.

I left after 2 years because I never got a raise, and their protocol was soul-killing.

Millennial is a catch-all term for 3 distinct generations. Those who grew up without the internet, those who grew up with he development of it, and those who grew up into it. It's why I think it's pretty fucking stupid.

>Why don't millennials want to work?

1. Facebook and keeping up with the Joneses also because of stuff like linked-in ,the grass is always greener.

2. If you're working for a company that actively outsources to the third world it destroys morale. Your job could go to India at any time.They company is not even loyal to the nation let alone you, why do they expect more in return?

3. "Muh diversity" destroys morale as well, the Putnam study showed it lowered trustworthiness in neighborhoods even between the melanin un-enriched.

4. The PC minefield wherein you can get fired for telling the wrong joke. In industries with high turnover it can be used as one of the many excuses to get rid of employees that have hung on too long.

All of this makes employees feel like disposables and replaceable cogs rather than members of a community (I for one have witnessed people getting pushed out of a company and screwed out of their pension for almost non-reasons). Boomers move around less because they a.)have formed relationships before the current workplace culture came to a head - so the rules don't really apply to them, they either are management or have strong ties to it so don't feel threatened as much . and b.) have less opportunity to move around because of ageism (ironically).

99% of milienials articles are from people complaining why they are willing to be cucked by their gf but not their employer, housing market, cable company, etc