For the purpose of this thread "Alt-Right" means the userbases of amren.com, altright.com, therightstuff.biz, and 50% of the dailystormer.com userbase. The Alt-Right advocates for white identity, white separatism, and a restoration of white birthrates through the creation of an explicitly white homeland (not unlike Israel).
In this thread I will group the existing Sup Forums ideology flags into 6 groups, and explain why an alt-right user can't comfortably use any of them. This thread is for archive purposes, please do not bump or reply.
Group I: chanCore flags: a) Kekistani Alt-right users were comfortable taking part in kekistan memes during the great meme war 2016 election. But in 2017 the kekistan memespace has been taken over by Sargon of Akkad (anti-racist and socialist) and Mike Cernovich (who claims the alt-right is a false flag meant to confound the truth that the Democrats are the real racists)
b) Pirate (representing digital and IP freedom; internet anarchy; freedom of anonymous speech)
c) Templar (for Catholic chauvinists, Orthodox chauvinists, and Christchan posters) This would be the flag of choice for a disciple of Common Filth, but has nothing to do with white identity
Lincoln Smith
>alt-right take your reddit labels elsewhere
Lucas Taylor
Group II: White Supremist flags: a) Confederate b) Fascist c) Nazi d) White Supremacist Users of stormfont.org, the other 50% of the dailystormer.com userbase, and most of the users of tradyouth.org can comfortably use these flags
There are three main reasons why an alt-right user can't comfortably use these flags: 1) The alt-right for the most part is a pan-European movement that opposes brother wars between whites. Flags (a), (b), and (c) are emblamatic of historical white brother wars that we would like to overcome. For that reason those flags are outdated. 2) Almost all the users of flags (c) and (d) deny the holocaust, but holocaust denial is merely optional for someone in the alt-right. 3) (a) and (d) are white supremacist which implies the exploitation and/or enslavement of nonwhites. Alt-right users are separatist, not supremacist, meaning we want to be as far away from nonwhites as possible, too far away to rule them. The two positions are mutually exclusive.
Leo Mitchell
Group III: Libertarian flags: a) Anarcho-Capitalist b) Gadsden c) (pre-2015 Sup Forums) Gold Standard flag Disciples of the Mises Institute, the Cato Institute, and liberty.me users can comfortably use these flags Many alt-right users identify as Hoppean Libertarians (for example Christopher Cantwell) but libertarianism is not synonymous with Alt-right. Side-note: the Gold Standard flag should be restored for the sake of Peter Schiff's disciples.
Jayden Johnson
Group IV: Non-white flags: a) Black Nationalist b) Jihadi c) Muslim d) (missing) La Raza e) (missing) Zionist Although seemingly unrelated, these groups will always form a leftist coalition in the white majority nations of Europe and the Anglosophere to disempower the white majority.
Lincoln Campbell
The back of the mercury dime is indeed a good secret symbol for fascism, but the end goal is to openly fly flag related.
Noah Murphy
Group V: Radical Left flags: a) Anarchist b) Communist c) National Bolshevik d) Tree hugger (same as hippie flag, but also encompasses ecoterrorism which makes it unacceptable in the mainstream) Users of these flags include anti-fascists, Marxists, and post-modernists. Alt-right users can't comfortably use these flags (self-explanatory)
Lucas Gonzalez
Group VI: Mainstream flags: a) Gay b) Hippie c) Democrat d) Republican e) European f) United Nations People who can comfortably use these flags include normies, boomers, privileged kids, and faggots An alt-right user can't use any of these flags because white advocacy is still a thought crime in the USA and a literal crime in Europe. We need to push the Overton Window quite a ways further before alt-right thought is acceptable in the mainstream.
Easton Russell
Use your fucking geoflag you globalist niggers. These gay flags just strip you of national identity.
Jacob Bailey
Finally I will explain the significance of the flag in the OP. The white and black bars symbolize our insistence on white separatism as an end goal. The face of mercury is symbolic of the guiding spirit of Western Civilization. The fasces in the center symbolizes white brotherhood and the inspiration we draw from previous white assertiveness movements of the 20th century. The AR of course stands for Alt-Right.
The generic Alt-Right flag of the OP has been displayed prominently at the recent alt-right rallies in Charlottesville, Virginia (13 May 2017) and Washington DC (25 June 2017).
Adam King
Other possible candidates for an alt-right flag include the depeche mode flag of altright.com, the dragon's eye flag of Identity Europa, and the American Renaissance emblem. The flag of the OP should be chosen as the generic Alt-Right flag for Sup Forums, because the other three flags correspond to specific organizations within the alt-right movement.
Liam Rogers
Finally, here is the 16x11 .gif of the OP flag that I would recommend Sup Forums use as the Alt-Right flag option.
If anyone wants to reply to the thread, now you can.
Jack Cooper
So, is this liquidmilk, ben goeringson, Mordecai or kezko? I know it's one of you fags
Landon Bell
Which organizition flies the flag with eagle holding the faces in your Charletsville pic
Mason Hall
Vanguard America
David Gonzalez
Put a crown in there and then i'll be ok with it. Fascism is authoritarianism without the culture europe.
Monarchism is infinitely better than fascism
Mason Carter
If we make an alt-right flag, it's just gonna pop up on reddit and become a cringey meme just like "Kekistan."
Dominic Peterson
Not if it's explicitly fascist. Like the OPs
Nicholas Mitchell
How can an autist claim that Democrats are the real racists whilst holding a flag that symbolizes white separatism?
Jaxon White
I assume all flag posters are Indian. I noticed that as soon as the flags came out, Poo-poo posters completely evaporated.
Carter Phillips
It doesn't really translate too well to miniature flag tbqh
Joshua Morgan
One thing about the Confederate flag, It's more so about Southern Heritage now rather than a reminder of the Civil War. The views of those who fly vary greatly but are right leaning.
Kevin James
I think the black and white bars are recognizable enough, just like you can always recognize a Mexico flag by the bars without being able to resolve the shit in the middle
Ayden Carter
alt right can't decide it's flag for two reasons reason one it doesn't really exist, it's a made up party to clump fallout republicans together reason two those fags can't decide their politics at all one half is pro diversity and pro gays and not anti musllim/mexican, just against terrorists/illegals the other half argues against white genocide, and wants an ethno state there are a few minor other contradictions but those outline the different mindsets the most it's mostly fallout democrats that voted trump, but still hold their stupid progressive opinions that they were indoctrinated with like idiot libs that move out of california because they can't afford to live there, but continue the policies that made their previous location too expensive
Robert Harris
Get rid of "AR" it's just silly. Flags should be self explanatory without text on it to back it up or to explain itself.
Ryder Jenkins
>50% of the dailystormer.com userbase why 50%?
Dominic Peterson
>one half is pro diversity and pro gays and not anti musllim/mexican, just against terrorists/illegals These are the kekistanis, they already have a flag >the other half argues against white genocide, and wants an ethno state These are the people who need a flag
Jayden Rogers
This is the flag.
Logan Jenkins
A sizable portion of the dailystormer userbase is TRS crossposters, and I get the feeling they're not all down with the more extreme dailystormer memes. When I need to pull a plausible fraction out of my ass I usually choose 50% to minimize maximum error.
Colton Cooper
that last part I'd very accurate
Christian Myers
A great flag for Europeans; I've yet to see it flown at any American rally
Julian Sanchez
I like pic related
Owen Allen
It'd funny if they did. No one would now what the hell it is. And libtards would assume it's a new Nazi flag lol.
Jayden Sullivan
>gay is mainstream I want to die
Chase Young
This. Every logo the """alt-right""" tries to use a AR symbol on looks terrible.
Christian Williams
The alt-right is mainly an american thing; maybe mix it with the american flag?
William Gonzalez
The kekistan flag is modeled off the nazi battleflag, pic related. Unless we include an actually swastika in there, it willcbe misused.
Kayden Scott
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Levi Smith
OP makes a good argument.
We need all drawfags and shop-niggers to get to work on a flag for the Alt-Right
Henry Ross
We're keeping the swastika
Jack Turner
Another point I'd like to make about the gif is you're probably going to see the Mercury flag appear a lot IRL in the near future, and it will become more instantly recognizable even in tiny gif form.
Blake Peterson
I think the alt-right needs to emphasize that they stand for anti-violence and freedom of association. They have to differentiate themselves from the fascists.
Jace Clark
Thanks user you truly are my greatest adviser
Elijah Ramirez
Firstly, we need to consider that there are three main groups of alt-right members:
1. Fascist/Nazi - Socialists who see purges as the best solution to multiculturalism 2. Libertarian/Ancap - Capitalists who see market/property exclusion as the best solution to multiculturalism 3. White Nationalists - Political moderates who care more about racial issues than economic issues
Knowing this, the main issue facing the unity of the "Alt-Right" is getting Nazis and Ancaps to get along. In every past attempt to unify Sup Forums, it's ended in Nazis calling Ancaps jews and Ancaps calling Nazis commies. As such, the official flag should reflect a synthesis of Fascism and Libertarianism. Perhaps something like pic related would work.
Alexander James
Sup Forums doesnt need a flag. The ones with the need for such a thing are the ones who are trying to label us. Labeling a group makes it easier for our enemies to combat us with false narratives. Pic related.
Grayson Edwards
Sup Forums:
Due to the distinct differences culturally, politically, and economically between western and eastern Canada, myself and a group of other Western Canadians have created a libertarian movement called the Western Alliance, which proposes that British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Northwest Territories and the Yukon secede and become one single independent nation, in charge of our own destiny.
If any of you have advice for our movement or are interested in joining, follow us on our official Western Alliance Twitter account: >@WAMovement
Jayden Johnson
Do you guys even know the history behind the fasces and it's meaning?
Angel Garcia
It was used by the Romans to represent unity.
Michael Rodriguez
Also why would you use a bust of Mercury the god of Merchants !?
Rather use Janus, a much more appropriate God
Noah Brooks
Nope, it was originally used by the Etruscans and was adopted by the Roman Kingdom and was used as a symbol of Judicial power.
Luis Morris
I like IE's transhumanist/futaristic vibe. It should be flown alongside the fashy one.
Cameron Gutierrez
>Sup Forums >alt-right >same thing When did I say Sup Forums needs a flag? Most people look at Sup Forums and see whatever they want to see, which gives them the impression that it's its own original thing, rather than a variety of diverse fringe groups sharing space and occasionally getting along.
Dominic Lee
It's still been used as a Roman symbol and has been viewed in a Roman light.
Elijah White
What do you guys think of this?
Ryder Moore
This one's along the same lines
Daniel Powell
Nice one
Charles Price
take away the AR
Colton Turner
take away the spelled out politically incorrect, but leave Sup Forums maybe put it upper left, maybe leave it
Jonathan Morgan
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Joshua Morales
Is this better?
Nicholas Davis
Yes do this
Benjamin Carter
Bumping
Camden Martin
Already have one.
Xavier Morales
Dayum, that is looking pretty 80s bruh.
Isaac Hernandez
>Tfw so cucked you refer to yourself as "alt" and let the republicans coopt your ideology.
Alt-Right is a meme, a Star of David meant to brand you. Wear your star of juden proudly, dipshits, (((they))) will take no mercy on you.
Fascism is not alt-right, get our fasci out of it.
Cameron Hill
/polsters/ should fly the flags of their people's. Be it their nations flag, state flag, County flag/emblem, family crest or historical flag of their ancestry. I personally couldn't fly any other flag than the Flag Of the Finnish Republic, even though I was born on Åland my family wasn't from there and I don't identify as åländning.
An American of German heritage should fly the stars and stripes, alternatively the confederate flag if you oppose the current government. You might fly a state flag if you support the current state government and perhaps a heritage flag if you strongly identify as European.
Political flags are poison and an easy target for your opponent. It sets you apart from the average population and makes it harder to identify with your cause since it means adopting a flag which sets you apart from people.
Tyler Fisher
Sup Forums in elder futhark
Lincoln Carter
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James Lewis
the last part pisses me off. i'm an californian that wants to move to texas, but californias are fucking that state up
Jack Gutierrez
>boars were revered in europe >jews and muslims hate pigs as unclean >absurdly high test, courageous and aggressive >cute nose >metal af in this art style >metal af noises
Robert Fisher
You know we've got a snake wrapped around a fasces hanging above our House of Representatives. That flag is genuinely patriotic here
William Sanders
GOTTEM'
TIME TO PACK IT UP AND GO HOME!
Jaxon Hernandez
>not realizing that the alt right is an ironic movement that co-opted conservative values to help Trump win
Sup Forums is collectively responsible for the alt right and even though there is sincere support for Trump within "the alt right", he was only chosen as the lesser evil to Clinton. the irony is that the alt right were most likely leftists themselves, using the "conservative" cover to exaggerate support for Trump and effectively criticize Clinton.
Jason Scott
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Nolan Brown
Where can I purchase a flag like this? I really like this flag.
Elijah Long
Missing a swastika somewhere >Iron cross acceptable
Jose Murphy
I could see that as the national mascot, with it's separate flag >Glad somebody remembered the Germanic warriors during the Roman Empire.