Give me one good reason why communism isn't the ideal system for society

Give me one good reason why communism isn't the ideal system for society

Because whenever it is tried you commie shits start screaming NOT REAL COMMUNISM when it fails

Because it makes everyone equal, and you might not know this but everyone is not the same

It's almost like people in positions of power get corrupted regardless of the political structure they're operating in. Socialist violent revolution leads way to an easy in to an authoritarian regime
Capitalist societies, the same thing happens, however people still think this oligarchy of the US is "democracy", imagine being so fucked

Libertarian socialism is the only reasonable form of socialism. Statists can fuck off

Because fuck you and fuck your bills you faggot. Pay for your own shit, nigger.

I can't it's perfect

Think about living in a commune.
Now think about how you are living now.
Wich one would you prefer? Why the fuck would you ever choose to live in a commune?

Still, some are more equal than others

Biology. We're basically apes and your ideal system can't solve our craving for differentiation, clan mentality and sexual competition.
Next question.

Because it isn't realistic on race. Other wise it's pretty good desu.

This right here

Because the state is absolute shit at managing anything other than fielding an army and collecting taxes.

Walk into the nearest post office or va hospital. You want these retards managing supply and foreseeing demand of food, supplies, vehicles, healthcare, housing, literally everything you use in your life? And you don't think that will eventually end in complete and utter disaster?

Shut the fuck up, the people don't know how to rule themselves

>we should take the money from the rich and then give it to the party and the party pinky promise swears that they will totally share it with you. anyone who disagrees is getting murdered for secretly being a rich person sympathizer.

Because man are driven by money and greed

This /thread

I agree, comrade. Perfect to the core.

I didn't know the state wasn't made of people?

Radical decentralization and a more direct democracy approach with a horizontal power structure is the goal, and has been achieved

Communism will work great as soon as we have the technology for a post-scarcity economy. I wouldn't hold my breath if Imwere you.

>democracy
Look at your common folk today, especially in the US and tell me, do you think these retards are fit enough to make decisions?

The ideal system would be to have a man that is not intelligent, but very wise in power

It's not productive.

there you go.
>Give me one good reason why communism isn't the ideal system for society
communists.

The fact that you have to shill it here every day says a lot about it.

You need food to live.

This unironically, communism's worst enemy are not fascists nor capitalists, it's the people who follow the ideology

I don't want some poor nigger taking all my shit

Food

Except breadlines only happen in capitalist countries.

daily reminder: the first thing stalin did when he took power was reinstitute the laws banning homosexuality and then used homosexuality as an excuse to round up and arrest everyone he considered to be a 'bourgeois'. Being gay was, according to stalin, a symptom of being a fascist.

> communism's worst enemy are not fascists nor capitalists
The bigggest problem are (((liberals)))

Communism is an idea worth exploring in a ethnically homogeneous society

Neck yourself faggot.

Because it doesn't have food

Lies

>the first thing stalin did when he took power was reinstitute the laws banning homosexuality
>laws banning homosexuality
>and then used homosexuality
> as an excuse to round up and arrest everyone he considered to be a 'bourgeois'.
Getting fucked in your ass is the most bourgeois thing you can do.

Also what's wrong with purging degeneracy from society?

There's one going on in Venezuela right now.

Because its a system closely resembling an ant colony. You will live to serve the system, nothing else. The problem with that is the system doesn't always want what the public want. Often, dictators are dangerously incompetent leading to mass starvation or a crippled economy (see Great Chinese Famine).

The solution to the current worlds problems isn't more government, it's less. We want more liberty, especially freedom to speak and have my ability to say what I like defended by the government.

tldr; better dead than red.

having to wait in line for toilet paper.

Communism turns everything to shit in the name of a better future that never comes.

niggah just look at Venezuela

This is you

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Communist is the perfect system hands down. Almost all the anti-communist and anti-soviet "horror stories" were made up by the west just so the rest of the people on earth would remain unaware of the success of communism. The west pushed to aggressively destroy communism because it threatened the existing and old-world power structure.

Talk to the average communist villager and they literally were in an advanced stage of happiness, it's pretty much like every citizen there achieved a monk-like state of being and co-existed in peace.

because technology hasnt advanced to a sufficiently high level and party politics is hard to get rid of .

Marx never had to work in much real world economics in his work.. lenin....tried

>Also what's wrong with purging degeneracy from society?

sharing is degenerate,
therefore communism should purge itself,
oh wait! kek

No fascism.

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There were no food shortages under communist rule. All lies fabricated by the capitalist propaganda machine. On the other hand cucktalism killed millions of innocents.

It killed over 10x as many of its own citizens on accident than Hitler did on purpose.

have you considered suicide?

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Because Fascism is.
Communism uses the State as a mere tool for Class Equality, like National-Socialism uses the State as a tool for ethno-homogenity.

>choosing who to love is bourgeois

tell me more about your state mandated breeding programs, comrade.

>sharing is degenerate,
When you are a baby you share with your mother, when you are at war you share with your comrades.

Sharing is normal, sharing with degenerates is degenerate, but sharing in itself is cooperative behavior, the nation internally should cooperate as much as possible.

>therefore communism should purge itself
Liberals who believe in sharing to prove they are good people are degenerates that should purge themselves

Sharing with your race to defend it is not degenerate.

>No fascism.
Liberals are worse than fascists, at least fascists use the right tools to make the wrong organizations/(((corporations))) rich.

Liberals run around begging to be abused and are surprised every time they are abused, and by being perpetual victims white people give other races the feeling that white people are weak and ready to be conquered.

without a infinite abundance of resources it will fail....not to mention everything else

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The USSR also faked statistics all the time. That's why people outside of the USSR were surprised when it collapsed. They though it was doing as good as the USA, if not better. In reality it was a shithole just like every other attempt at Communism.

>tell me more about your state mandated breeding programs, comrade.
Genetics, genetics, genetics.

>choosing who to love is bourgeois
Loving anything more than your race and nation is degenerate and bourgeois.

Homosexuality is used to reduce the amount of army aged males available for service and in general to feminize men to breed white people out of existence.

>extermomation of 100 million nonexistent indigenous americans
>indigenous americans literally have higher numbers now than 200 years ago
>they also have their own free independent nations within the united states

and I stopped reading because the very first thing was bullshit.

Looks like a tabloid. Funny how they don't show pictures of bread lines in more market based countries.

food

Try again

Evidence supporting more market based economies and economic freedom. Communism doesn't work, end of story. It has become a cult religion whose brainwashed followers believe in something that doesn't exist.

It directly circumvents mankinds instinct of self preservation.

sharing is degenerate in case of communism because it is imposed,
sharing because you want to(friends n familly or good ppl in need) is ok.

>The USSR also faked statistics all the time

Lets not kid ourselves here. All politicians fake stats. Capitalist have to so they get re-elected. Communists have to so the entire society doesn't collapse. Thus "They pretend to pay us we pretend to work"

>Communism doesn't work, end of story

Try again

Humans require food to survive

>sharing is degenerate in case of communism because it is imposed,
If savages try to cross the ocean and invade france, would you rather be forced to share your boat with the government so the government can sink boats or would you prepare the savages landing on the beaches and overrunning your society?

Is there anything left to overrun in France? Last time I was in Paris it seemed like you people have just surrendered to the incoming flood.

Yes this is true. The difference though is that in a capitalist nation, 3rd parties are allowed to publish stats that make the country look bad without being sent to concentration camps.

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The 20th century.

>person argues with facts, statistics, and hard data
>post a meme in response with a smug "try again"


You really need to rethink how you debate

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If you stop using the "food" meme, I will agree to have a serious debate.

>If savages try to cross the ocean and invade france,
>would you rather be forced to share your boat with the government
>so the government can sink boats (((I WISH THEY WOULD)))
>or would you prepare the savages landing on the beaches and overrunning your society? (((AND THAT4S WHAT THEY DO)))
what do you think is actually happening.

nah whole country is fucked up (i mean all big cities, rural is ok tho, we hate them & are all hunters, we're just very patient)

(((third parties))) subverting american ideals is how we got into the situation we are in right now

Link a more capitalist country than the U.S.

It was invented by fucking kikes

China is a pseudo commie nation though. Yes the government controls everything, but long as business pay taxes/levies you get to keep your production(until they steal it and undercut you with their own exact copy reproductions)

Food meme? I never posted any meme. I'm talking about the guy that keeps posting countless pieces of hard evidence that free market based economies are directly correlated with increases in prosperity.

The whole post-revolutionary bit tends to just replace one set of cunts with another.

>no food shortages under communism
I can name two massive man made famines, the holodomer, and the great leap forward, directly caused by incompetent communist policies that were responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people. nice bait.

Central planning is too inefficient with distribution of resources. Without a free market it's impossible to assign the appropriate amounts of resources to appropriate sectors. Maybe if you had an AI run society but at that point it wouldn't matter much since there would be basically limitless resources because of automation.

No food.

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>hard evidence
the soviet union survived for 80 years and was an export focused economy

>holodomer
>great leap forward
these were genocide, no question about it

the moon.

I'm down with communism - as log as I can be the one to divvy out the goods :)

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Look at history and find out, cuckistani filth

Yes, it's best to compare systems is by using a sliding scale of economic freedom to describe a country's economics. That avoids triggering the "not true socialism" meme or the "capitalism vs socialism" argument.

Limited resources. That's why everyone always dies.

becouse socialism has to come before communism and socialism always ends up in tyranny, also how are you gonna force equalety without mass killing people?

That's true but doesn't mean it worked. Simply existing isn't good criteria for a prosperous society. Look at N. Korea. They've existed for almost 80 years now and are an export focused economy but they still have horrible living conditions due to their communist rulers.

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>The Moon is a Harsh Mistress


FTFY

actually makes sense. in doubt, kill it.

>but they still have horrible living conditions due to their communist rulers
according to western accounts
we know nothing of what goes on in north korea