Parental Rights

Last night, I caught my twelve year old daughter looking at vibrators on Amazon.

She didn't notice that I was standing behind her because she had her earbuds in listening to music, so I had time to look over her shoulder and see what she was doing. When I finally realized what she was looking at, I slammed the laptop shut. I took her laptop away from her and grounded her for a month.

About twenty minutes later, my wife told me that she ungrounded our daughter then told me give the laptop back. Our daughter was standing right next to her when she said it.. They both had their arms crossed. I sat there for a while in silence, dumbfounded by what my wife was doing, and then I refused to give it back. My wife and I argued about it for about an hour and then eventually she just gave our daughter her laptop.

Neither one of them are speaking to me. I don't really want to speak to either of them either. I slept on the couch in the living room, but I couldn't fall asleep. My wife completely punked me out in front of our child and now it's going to be fucking impossible to discipline her.

I can't understand it. I try to protect our daughter from becoming a degenerate slut and my own wife undermines me. I still can't believe she didn't have my back on this. What the fuck is this world coming to where twelve year old girls looking at adult sex toys on Amazon is acceptable behavior?

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You are the man of the house, if you can't show authority over your own wife, you can't show authority over your daughter.

You should have penalised her by giving her "the talk" and making her uncomfortable

Normal kids start masturbating around then. And there's nothing particularly crude about using a vibrator to do it, it's not like she was looking up anal beads or some shit OP.

your daughter is a slut and will graduate to pop bottles soon anyway so who cares. If she wants a blown out protracted pussy, you can't stop her.

also
>not beating your wife

Have fun with that user, probably isn't even your kid.

Also you sound like the steriotypical american "man" the media portrays

Get a pocket pussy and use it infront of your wife, and leave it laying around the house for you daughter to see it

fucking sucks mate. vibrators, like drugs, abuse pleasure receptors and desensitize them long-term. it's a downward spiral. your wife should have had your back.

Scratch that. Do what this dad did. Embarass your daughter, post a video explaining what she was doing and what your wife was supporting, then shoot her laptop

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>wanking with sex toys is normal at age 12

what the fuck user. if my parents would me at 12 looking up fleshlights they'd have wrecked my shit

Another point for MGTOW

She will be posting tits with time stamp and sharpie up the pooper on underage /b in no time OP. No worries.

Smack your wife for her insubordination

OP did the right thing. A vibrator? Was it dick shaped?
Will she use it to pop her own cherry? What a waste.

>I try to protect our daughter from becoming a degenerate slut and my own wife undermines me.

Not your body, not your choice. If your daughter earned that money to buy herself a vibrator, her choice. You are not God. Masturbation isn't bad and the earlier kids start masturbating, the better it is for them. The risk of depression, sexual inhibition, chronic diseases, obesity etc. is diminished if you start masturbating early.

Look it up, I am not bullshitting you. I 100% side with your wife.

It would be very different if your 12yr old brought a guy to your home saying he was her lover. But no, that wasn't the case.

If anything, you should make sure the music in her earbuds isn't so loud. That can damage her hearing permanently.

you mean stone*?

Firstly, what are your wife's values? Sounds like you married someone you don't even know. Secondly, Isn't it normal for kids to start experimenting with their sexually around that age? It doesn't sound like that much of an issue, but your wife trampling over your authority in front of your daughter is fucked up. You have to fix that shit right now.

that was a bitch move on her part but you also took a pretty shitty approach there by punishing her for just exploring material like that.

Should have gone to your wife and gotten her to give her the talk, if you try to bottle up your daughter's sexual desires she will fuck the darkest ass nigger she can find the second she gets out of your house, possibly sooner. Instead it needs to be managed, she needs to know about the dangers that rogue schoolboys pose to her body and future.

How pathetic are you that you have that little control over your wife?

Explain to your wife and daughter that long term vibrator useage can desensitize nerve endings, resulting in being unable to orgasm from non-vibrator stimulation.

Also put your wife in her place, explain if she ever does that in front of your children again you are done. Make her feel physically intimidated, slam doors / objects, get right in her face.

Sit your daughter down and explain sex and masturbation, freaking out and grounding her was an unfair and unreasonable response.

Kill yourself. A 12 year old shouldn't be using a vibrator.

>this

They made you feel uncomfortable, now it's your turn.

Do you have a dog OP? If so, have you noticed an increase in peanut butter consumption?
Also, since you have her laptop you have inevitably scoured it to make sure she hasn't gone full retard and posted pics of herself online. Did you find anything interesting in her internet history or pics/vids folders? There are some things you can't unsee.

Assuming this isn't pasta or trolling...

A fairly normal time for healthy expression of sexuality is around puberty which for girls can be as early as 12 years old.

You should be educating her and teaching her proper behaviour through understanding, puberty is confusing as fuck for children and behaviour that punishes them such as grounding them for a month, makes them sexually repressed, and that later on in life backfires like a fucking cannon to the face and they end up being overly promiscuous.

If you don't want her to have daddy issue and to fuck jamal at 15 simply to get back at you for being a cunt towards her, then show some understanding, if you're completely incapable of doing that, defer those talks to your wife who can sit her down and give her the knowledge she needs.

Either she's going resort to toys, or she'll end up releasing that sexual stress with the kid around the corner and then you're properly fucked.

where are your balls? are they still there?

anyway be calm you did the right thing check your daughter browsing habits. I don't think your wife can support that your daughter is a slut

>Kill yourself. A 12 year old shouldn't be using a vibrator.
Why? Give me one goddamn reason why she shouldn't be using a vibrator.

I jerked off when I was 13. Most people do.

LET YOUR KID MASTURBATE YOU FUCKING FASCIST

Absolutely this, we experience most carnal pleasure as a reflection of doing things that will lead to our reproductive and material success.

I am not a cuck dogmatic materialist but abusing your brain's reward mechanisms is degenerate.

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Your wife's a slut too, brah, great job you've done there

>Give me one reason

1) She will likely never learn how to make herself orgasm without one. If she can't figure it out, no man is going to manage
2) She will over stimulate herself and her clitoris, and it will become harder and harder to orgasm from PIV + non vibrator stimulation of clit

New york is full of thousands of single roasties who get fucked by chads on tinder, can't cum, and end up alone at night with their magic wand cranked up to max.

Its loosely similar to men that masturbate with an extremely tight grip, and struggle to orgasm in actual vaginas.

Why the fuck did you think it was a good idea to come on here and blog post your shitty cucked life ?

>Give me one goddamn reason why she shouldn't be using a vibrator

it's only strange because it challenges convention. nothing morally wrong here.

i was jerking off well before i was 12. what's the difference if im using my hand, or fucking a pillow? no difference.

anyways these obv. bait posts are getting old.

Most of this is true. When your wife and girl came at you with folded arms demanding the laptop back, you should have sent the daughter out and set the wife straight. She undermined your authority. That's a no-go. A little show of male dominance occasionally is necessary. I'd never hit the mother of my children, but I let her live with the idea that I might capable of doing it.

>my twelve year old daughter

>I 100% side with your wife.
Would any German here like to shame this degenerate cuck?

That's for dudes who get vibrators stuck in their asses.

Stop being a pussy. Discipline your wife and threaten her with the only thing that she will understand. Social humiliation.

Who said she isn't going to stick it up her butt?

grats, now you have two women you need to discipline.

>wife and girl came at you with folded arms
They probably saw Wonder Woman and have been having a girl power lesbo incest thing going ever since. Sorry OP but divorce and much therapy is in your future.

>I'd never hit the mother of my children, but I let her live with the idea that I might capable of doing it.

this guy gets it.

>be german
>think it's alright for 12 year olds to have sex toys

go fuck yourself achmed. just because your shitty religion supports sexualizing children doesn't mean the rest of us do.

vibrator turns into dildo turns into fuck machine turns into giant foot long dildos. SHE'S FUCKING 12. YOU HAVE TO BE 18+ TO GO TO A SEX SHOP FOR A REASON YOU SICK FUCKS. THIS IS NOT OK.

Because there's a stupid double standard when it comes to men and women's sex toys. Flashlights are seen as pitiful desperation while dildos are seen as essential.

It would be a lot better for a kid to just use a fleshlight and his imagination then porn and his hand.

Take your daughter's laptop away again.
Take your wife's laptop as well.

Use victorian era principles and scare your daughter by telling her that she will go blind if she masturbates.

>not honour killing your wife and daughter
>2017

the real issue is that he was emasculated. The girl could be just curious, but she has to be monitored

>gets mad when daughter shops a vibrator
>daughter can't get a vibrator
>daughter meets 16 years old Tyrone
>month later daughter is pregnant
I hope you'll realize your mistake by then

Please please please please smash the laptop in front of them and say "THIS IS MY HOUSE"
Please

>i slept on the couch
>my wife undermined my authority as a parent in front of my kid and a didn't do anything about it
>my 12 year old buys sex toys

it's time for suicide, friend. your daughter already lacks a father figure.

>if im using my hand

So why can't she use her hand? Its not even remotely comparable - unless she exclusively fucks robots when she grows up.

Use a vibrator every night for 10 years and it will be impossible for her to orgasm without one.

>1) She will likely never learn how to make herself orgasm without one. If she can't figure it out, no man is going to manage
>2) She will over stimulate herself and her clitoris, and it will become harder and harder to orgasm from PIV + non vibrator stimulation of clit

"What if a penis can never do what a vibrator does?"

Well, it can't. A pulsator, which not only vibrates but mimics the in-and-out movement of a penis during sex, is somewhat more similar in comparison. But ultimately, no vibrator can do what a penis does because a penis is attached to a man, and as mentioned above, human contact comes with all its own pleasurable benefits that no toy can recreate.

"Are there any side effects from using a vibrator?"

Although Indiana's study found that some women experienced numbness (16%), irritation (10%) and even swelling (8%) with vibrator use, 71.5% of women had no negative side effects. A positive side effect of vibrator use? Women who used vibrators were "significantly more likely" to have gone to the gynecologist in the past year and were more likely to give themselves genital self-exams.

"Will using a vibrator too often prevent me from coming during sex?"

While vibrators may make for stronger orgasms and the ability to achieve them easier and faster, they will not prevent a woman from climaxing during sex. As Debby Herbenick, author of Sex Made Easy and Great in Bed, told Gizmodo, "Rest assured that there is nothing about vibrator use per se that will deny a person the ability to have orgasms any other way."

>uncontrolled hostile behaviour when something unexcepted happens
>is supposed to be an adult and a parent

Nu/pol/ doesn't understand sexuality and thinks vibrators will run your vagina. Why an I not surprised at all?

Complete myth about vibrators, and nerves in general. You can desensitize yourself mentally, but the only way to physically desensitize a nerve is to fucking kill it.

Kys
A fucking 12 year old doesn't "earn" anything. You can't even have a job until you're 16.

The thing about this is it is pointless in the end as
1 You have no legal control over your family whether it be wife or children. Feminism has stripped that away from us
2 She will only rebel and begin sucking the asshole cock in a few years anyway. Your daughter will be 1 of 2 things either she will be a slut or she will be a whore.

Satan, help me through this temptation

So you'd rather have her get fucked by 15-16 years old in her school then her fucking herself with a vibrator?

>Germans
gotta keep that puss nice and loose for the refugees, right?

>not teaching your kids about sex
>forcibly repress their natural urges
>taking advice from Sup Forums virgins

This is how underage pregnancies happen.

ITT not realizing being a helicopter, overprotecting parent with a 12 year old girl will only increase the likelihood of her getting all the nigger dicks she wants as soon she turns legal instead of relieving herself and hear a 12 year old orgasm.

As long as the boy's white, yes.

>just because your shitty religion supports sexualizing children doesn't mean the rest of us do.
Christianity isn't really explicit about masturbation. Jesus didn't say shit about it.

kek

Good goy. The only way to prevent your kid from running wild is to let them run wild. Keeping them repressed makes them go crazy, hence why Muslim women are known for their rampant sexual deviancy

You've become degenerate again. Better a young girl using a vibrater than going around and fucking every guy with a dick

>A fucking 12 year old doesn't "earn" anything. You can't even have a job until you're 16.
In what country? Around here you can earn money when you are 12yrs old - part time - and hold a fucking real job when you are 14.

I had my own little business when I was 12 making quite some money in programming.

Paul says clearly that masturbation is a sin. Sorry bro.

This.

love how everyone in this thread is manipulating op into hitting his wife YOU DO YOU OP SMACK THE BITCH

>It was a BBC Xtreme Vibrator

I'd rather she has a healthy teenage relationship than becomes a roastie from vibrator abuse. It's painfully obvious you've never raised a kid.

No offense but you are a cuck and a faggot. Get used to your wife being being blacked if you give up your bed so easily. I would never let my wife tell me where I was sleeping and I would never let her correct me in front of the children. I think your reaction sucked but the point stands a father must be and look strong for the family. You are expected to defend your home with your life they owe you respect.

Women, NEVER undermine your husband EVEN if he is wrong in front of children. Talk to him after about it but if you undermine him even once the entire thing falls apart as you can see in OP. Now she will always appeal to mom, dad is cucked, stops even trying, family eventually goes to hell.

$20 your daughter will be a varsity member of the slut team in a year or two

OP is retarded. There's nothing wrong with kids that age getting interested in masturbation, and girls gravitate towards toys to do so. If she doesn't have a proper toy she'll use a hair brush handle or something. That's what they all do. Your wife probably understands this having been a girl herself.

Grounding your daughter for the crime of having a sexuality is how you end up with a sexually repressed daughter that gets knocked up at 16.

Good thing your wife was level headed enough to shut you down. You should go apologize to her.

>Listening to music while browsing NSFW materials

lel what a fuck wit. Also your wife just going over your head like that was a shitty thing to do, now the kid will know to bounce back and forth between you two when she wants something. You two should have come to a conclusion together before making a move

Let me fuck her.

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Everyone took the bait. But i'd love a 12 year old girl

What the fuck is wrong with your wife?

Sorry Po Pham, but your little rice dick wouldn't even satisfy a 12 year old.

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>Yeah but I bet u went using a flesh light
>So she shouldn't be using a vibrator
>Only hands
If she wants to masterbate then she can use her damn fingers, not a fuckin vibrator, then she'll thinks it's okay to be doing that then it will increase to more pervert stuff

And how many studies have been done on very young girls using them, before they actually have real sex? What are the long term e.g. 10 year effects?

All of the sources you quote are self reports from women, there has been no significant research in this area yet.

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>story that never happened

report, hide, sage

im no father but i wouldn't of done that i would of just talk to her about what she was doing so she understands. blowing up on someone never worked. i would just make things right and apologies and just explain why you freaked. just so she understands i was 8 years old i didnt know any better when i was looking at porn. i never told my dad in fear he would yell at me. there is nothing necessarily wrong in which she did

>getting married
>having children
>having a DAUGHTER
lol

Now that your wife has just beta-ed you, her next step is to cheat on you. Women only give up their pus and surrender to alphas, which you're obviously not.

There's only one solution to this problem. It involves your dick, and not your wife.

>had a kid with someone who doesn't share your values
well, you're just a giant fucking retarded fucking faggot, ain't ya?

I don't think 12 year old is too old, so you could still put her in your basement and use as a sex slave. You should probably ditch the wife though, unless you're into milfs.

Why didn't you just beat them? The house should fall silent when daddy takes off his belt.

fpbp. give them both the silent treatment and withhold funds for any extra curricular activities. duh.

Alhamdulillah

Rub some strong magnets all over the laptop. Cancel the internet. Scorch the earth.

Mathew 5:28 "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Unless you masturbate without any lust then I'd say it's pretty clear.

Says the average polfag who's been fapping to midget porn daily since he's been ten years old. What's so wrong about a little more equality?

>literally punishing your daughter for a thought crime

Sad.